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Pakistan v West Indies | 2nd Test | Abu Dhabi | Oct 21-25, 2016 | Day 3

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The match situation:

West Indies 106/4 (45.0 ov).

West Indies trail by 346 runs with 6 wickets remaining in the 1st innings.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakvWI?src=hash">#PakvWI</a> Azhar has left the field in pain as he has injured his left foot while fielding at short leg. Babar Azam in as substitute fielder.</p>— PakPassion.net (@PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/PakPassion/status/790076109136224256">October 23, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Rahat Ali actually bowling with some intelligence in this match. Good line and length with some reverse swing and the odd bouncer. That's good.
 
The Cult Hero Ripping through the Windies !! :))


RAHAT ! RAHAT !! RAHAT !!!!
 
This is embarrassing. Rameez doesn't even correctly remember the most memorable performance of 2015 world cup. Says: "If that catch (watson's) had been taken we wouldn't have seen that brilliant bowling spell because what transpired after that what just magnificent."
 
Rahat has got to go to Oceania.

He's a must there along with Wahab, Amir, Sohail and IK. You need 5 fast bowlers at least in the squad whenever touring Oceania. Plus he's 6+ feet tall so it will certainly keep some posters happy as well :yk
 
This is embarrassing. Rameez doesn't even correctly remember the most memorable performance of 2015 world cup. Says: "If that catch (watson's) had been taken we wouldn't have seen that brilliant bowling spell because what transpired after that what just magnificent."

Lol that catch was the culmination of that spell.

Poor Rambo :facepalm:
 
Goodness Waqar, it's a rotation policy, every damn country enforces one. Cricket has changed a lot compared to your era, glad you are not the coach anymore
 
Sohail should retire from Test - may play ODI till CT 2017. But, he has nothing left in tank.
 
I think Rahat will be first choice in anz if he continues like this. Must play the day-night test
 
If Nawaz isn't going to bowl, why aren't we playing Babar Azam? As it is, I think this line up is way too light on batting for NZ and Aus
 
Is it just me or does anybody also think that Zulfiqar Babar is highly overrated in UAE conditions? He's such an innocuous bowler and when the pitch doesn't spin appreciably, Zulfi is as useless as a glass hammer. Look at his overall Test match strike-rate.
 
Is it just me or does anybody also think that Zulfiqar Babar is highly overrated in UAE conditions? He's such an innocuous bowler and when the pitch doesn't spin appreciably, Zulfi is as useless as a glass hammer. Look at his overall Test match strike-rate.

Averages around 40 in UAE, so definitely not just you.

Zulfi is pretty average bowler and is only there because he is one of Misbah's favourites.
 
Imagine now Misbah gives the bowl to Nawaz and he picks up two wickets. How dumb he would look..
 
Zulfi is an honest tryer and hard worker but you need skills also to succeed at the international level. He doesn't have them. He doesn't even have a good arm ball for variations sake. It's just the same old loopy stuff. He'll go at 6 RPO in Australia if he were ever to play there.
 
Nawaz has not bowled a single over yet?? - So much for playing with 5 bowlers :ma
 
This is really poor staff from Misbah - he is trying his best to afford Zulfi some cheap wicket so that he can play him in next Test. 63 overs & no over from Nawaz, while Zufli has 0/38 of 16, where 6 wickets down for 140. Nawaz took 4 wickets in last Test as well.
 
Moeen Ali's SR is better than Zulfiqar Babar's and Moeen Ali was supposed to a part-time spinner. :P
 
Zulfi'a 1st innings average is 57 and a SR of 114 with the ball. OMG!!! And he's our second spinner!!
 
This is really poor staff from Misbah - he is trying his best to afford Zulfi some cheap wicket so that he can play him in next Test. 63 overs & no over from Nawaz, while Zufli has 0/38 of 16, where 6 wickets down for 140. Nawaz took 4 wickets in last Test as well.

Misbah is know for not just testing the patience of opposition but of fans too.... Zulfi has been in decline, for last 2/3 series, but still playing because of Misbah... Believe me Hafeez would have been opening again in UAE, if Sami had not played those impossible knocks in Edgbasten... Youngsters have to walk over the water to get into Misbah's 11, that really irritates me about him, you got to be little more forward looking :(
 
I'm thinking there's something wrong(niggle/injury) with Nawaz which is why he isn't bowling otherwise I can't think of a reason why Misbah has not bowled him at all.
 
Misbah is know for not just testing the patience of opposition but of fans too.... Zulfi has been in decline, for last 2/3 series, but still playing because of Misbah... Believe me Hafeez would have been opening again in UAE, if Sami had not played those impossible knocks in Edgbasten... Youngsters have to walk over the water to get into Misbah's 11, that really irritates me about him, you got to be little more forward looking :(

In PAK cricket, media plays the wrong role - always, it's about Tuk, tuk - which is absolutely rubbish allegation. But, the real damage he is doing in terms of transition of the team.
 
In PAK cricket, media plays the wrong role - always, it's about Tuk, tuk - which is absolutely rubbish allegation. But, the real damage he is doing in terms of transition of the team.

That's nonsense. Misbah's team has given us Shafiq, Azhar, Sarfraz, Yasir, who will serve Pakistan for a long time in sha Allah. The damage would've been had he not kept Azhar and Shafiq when they were in bad form and went back to the likes of Akmals.
 
Not sure what WI is trying to achieve here by not scoring runs. They are going absolutely nowhere with this approach. They are not moving the match forward at all and if a wicket falls they go deep into the quagmire.
 
Rahat/Aamir/Wahab/Yasir should be the attack in OZ/NZ. And maybe Azhar as 5th bowling option. So the team should be

Sami
Azhar
Asad
YK
Babar
Misbah
Sarfraz
Amir
Yasir
Wahab
Rahat
 
That's nonsense. Misbah's team has given us Shafiq, Azhar, Sarfraz, Yasir, who will serve Pakistan for a long time in sha Allah. The damage would've been had he not kept Azhar and Shafiq when they were in bad form and went back to the likes of Akmals.

Are you sure Asad, Azhar & Sarfu debuted under Misbah? These 3 are there for their performance, not for Misbah's favor. On contrary, Misbah destroyed Umar & Amin, carried MoHa.
 
Rahat/Aamir/Wahab/Yasir should be the attack in OZ/NZ. And maybe Azhar as 5th bowling option. So the team should be

Sami
Azhar
Asad
YK
Babar
Misbah
Sarfraz
Amir
Yasir
Wahab
Rahat

NZ this would work but the way Aus pitches have been we need a fifth bowler
 
Are you sure Asad, Azhar & Sarfu debuted under Misbah? These 3 are there for their performance, not for Misbah's favor. On contrary, Misbah destroyed Umar & Amin, carried MoHa.
Asad did (in tests)

Sarfaraz under Yousuf
Azhar under Afridi
 
Are you sure Asad, Azhar & Sarfu debuted under Misbah? These 3 are there for their performance, not for Misbah's favor. On contrary, Misbah destroyed Umar & Amin, carried MoHa.

Just because some didn't debut under Misbah, it doesn't mean Misbah has no role in their development. There was lots of pressure on Misbah and Waqar to select Umar Akmal in place of Asad shafiq when Asad was not performing at all but Misbah and Waqar stuck with Asad Shafiq. You think that credit doesn't go to the captain and coach? It's the belief given to players like Azhar, Shafiq, Yasir and Sarfraz by Misbah that is important to recognize.
 
NZ this would work but the way Aus pitches have been we need a fifth bowler

A 5th bowler would weaken the batting a lot imo. Someone like Haris Sohail would've been perfect. A good batsman who can bowl a few overs of decent left arm spin. I'm not sure selecting Nawaz is a good idea Down Under.
 
Asad did (in tests)

Sarfaraz under Yousuf
Azhar under Afridi

Now, there is another debutante under him - took 4/75 in his debut Test - Misbah hasn't given him ball in 72 overs, for a genuine No. 10, who is close to 45 both in age & bowling average.
 
Are you sure Asad, Azhar & Sarfu debuted under Misbah? These 3 are there for their performance, not for Misbah's favor. On contrary, Misbah destroyed Umar & Amin, carried MoHa.

Sarfaraz and Yasir came under Waqar not Misbah. Our whole bowling lineup is pretty much selected by Waqar and Sami is Inzi's selection.

edit: quoted the wrong guy.
 
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That's nonsense. Misbah's team has given us Shafiq, Azhar, Sarfraz, Yasir, who will serve Pakistan for a long time in sha Allah. The damage would've been had he not kept Azhar and Shafiq when they were in bad form and went back to the likes of Akmals.

Sarfaraz and Yasir came under Waqar not Misbah. Our whole bowling lineup is pretty much selected by Waqar and Sami is Inzi's selection.
 
Now, there is another debutante under him - took 4/75 in his debut Test - Misbah hasn't given him ball in 72 overs, for a genuine No. 10, who is close to 45 both in age & bowling average.

This. Why nawaz didnt bowl yet. Very strange tactics.
 
Ahh!! Beautiful bowling by Yasir . . This is the first time I am seeing him drift the ball . .
 
Whattay Bowler! I would pay good money to see peak Ajmal bowling in tandem with the current best spinner in the world.
 
Whattay Bowler! I would pay good money to see peak Ajmal bowling in tandem with the current best spinner in the world.

I don't think it would be possible to see Ajmal bowling with Ashwin in the current political climate.
 
Just because some didn't debut under Misbah, it doesn't mean Misbah has no role in their development. There was lots of pressure on Misbah and Waqar to select Umar Akmal in place of Asad shafiq when Asad was not performing at all but Misbah and Waqar stuck with Asad Shafiq. You think that credit doesn't go to the captain and coach? It's the belief given to players like Azhar, Shafiq, Yasir and Sarfraz by Misbah that is important to recognize.

Asad vs Akmal is different from Zulfiqar vs Nawaz.

Akmal had had problems by the time of this debate. But Nawaz is playing his 2nd Test.

Not to forget that Nawaz debuted in a D/N Pink Ball Match which we have come to know wasn't a spin friendly thing. Still he didn't disappoint. In any case, why select him in first place if you never intended to use him.

Imagine Haris Sohail/Hafeez bowling 10 overs in a day only to see them batting at number 9/10.

Ulterior motive or conspiracy theory, The plot to get Hafeez into XI is thickening. Sami has done just enough to escape the axe for Hafeez. They won't let another escape.

Welcome back Hafeez.
 
Asad vs Akmal is different from Zulfiqar vs Nawaz.

Akmal had had problems by the time of this debate. But Nawaz is playing his 2nd Test.

Not to forget that Nawaz debuted in a D/N Pink Ball Match which we have come to know wasn't a spin friendly thing. Still he didn't disappoint. In any case, why select him in first place if you never intended to use him.

Imagine Haris Sohail/Hafeez bowling 10 overs in a day only to see them batting at number 9/10.

Ulterior motive or conspiracy theory, The plot to get Hafeez into XI is thickening. Sami has done just enough to escape the axe for Hafeez. They won't let another escape.

Welcome back Hafeez.

True - also quite logical to bring an offie since there is a SLAO in the team in Zulfi. Babar can spoil the party though by starting to bowl few overs, but Misbah won't give him in match.
 
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