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Pakistan vs New Zealand | 1st ODI | Abu Dhabi | Nov 7, 2018 | New Zealand Innings

We needed this luck. Should limit them to a chaseable total barring a Taylor blitz.
 
If only Sarfaraz can improve his field placement, his bowling rotation has been pretty impressive mostly
 
NZ will get 260 plus which is a mountain for our pathetic batting. Absolute garbage team selection. Shadab and Imad aren't good enough spinners for ODI cricket.

Its a shame that every good Pakpassion poster invariably ends up turning into a Mamoon.

Shadab is one of the best LOI spinners in the world and has the potential to go down as one of our best ever. Imad, although not as good, is nowhere as bad as you're making him seem.
 
Waiting for these same posters to now eat humble pie and call Inzi a genius. I won't hold my breathe...
 
I feel sorry for some posters on these threads. How many times will they be shown to be clueless about their judgement on cricketers? A little shame would be great but unlikely.

People have their own judgement, can't do anything about it...
 
It's a waste playing three front line fast bowlers.

One more pure spinner along with Shaheen and Faheem are good enough.

Shaheen
Faheem
Imad
Shadab
Hafeez
Pure Spinner
 
So did maddy chucked Mr Taylor?

Have always liked Taylor but today he was just crying
 
Its a shame that every good Pakpassion poster invariably ends up turning into a Mamoon.

Shadab is one of the best LOI spinners in the world and has the potential to go down as one of our best ever. Imad, although not as good, is nowhere as bad as you're making him seem.

Look who's talking :misbah
 
NZ will get 260 plus which is a mountain for our pathetic batting. Absolute garbage team selection. Shadab and Imad aren't good enough spinners for ODI cricket.

Oh God this is very embarrasing for you, please do everyone on this platform a favour and log out and never make another judgement again. Thanks, Management.
 
We should prepare turners in the Test series given how they're playing spin.

Payback for the Wimbledon lawns NZ served us up in 2016.
 
Not often would you see Shadab and Imad take four wickets in nine balls. Clearly a one off event, but a very timely one.
 
Waiting for these same posters to now eat humble pie and call Inzi a genius. I won't hold my breathe...
If you mean me I will still say his selection has not been good so far, another specialist spinners would have eaten up NZ. Imad May take few lucky wicekts when pressure is on but he is not the answer.
 
I feel sorry for some posters on these threads. How many times will they be shown to be clueless about their judgement on cricketers? A little shame would be great but unlikely.

Feel free to hand out Clueless post or thread of the week to these posters ;)
 
Its a shame that every good Pakpassion poster invariably ends up turning into a Mamoon.

Shadab is one of the best LOI spinners in the world and has the potential to go down as one of our best ever. Imad, although not as good, is nowhere as bad as you're making him seem.

Syed bhai gets a little emotional :p.
 
Wicket taking spinners always will work in modern game, specially in UAE. Shadab has almost won the game, but Kiwis has one telling partnership of 125+, outside almost nothing, which suggests this might not be a 270 wicket - if Kiwis can bat through 50 overs, it'll be quite interesting game for sure.
 
The way shadab is bowling I don’t know how still Sarfaraz, Mickey and Inzi are still not tempted to throw in Mohammad Irfan (Leggie), Zaffar Gohar with him and they both are decent batsman as well.

Spot on.
 
Our middle order is completely useless.

That's why I know we're not going to do well in the WC.

Guptil, Munro, Williamson, Taylor, Latham, Anderson

I think that is pretty decent mate, especially for World Cup on flat pitches.
 
I may have spoken too soon regarding Shadab.. :))


Still Imad does not deserve to be part of ODI side.
 
Believe me on this, imam's eyesight causes him problems while fielding under lights. This can cause a disaster someday. Actually it did when he dropped Rohit off Shaheen in Asia cup.
 
Plz enlighten us with your views on 'bits and pieces' Shadab's performance today

Yes he has performed against a good team for once. Everything is forgiven now, including the Asia Cup humiliation.
 
Wicket taking spinners always will work in modern game, specially in UAE. Shadab has almost won the game, but Kiwis has one telling partnership of 125+, outside almost nothing, which suggests this might not be a 270 wicket - if Kiwis can bat through 50 overs, it'll be quite interesting game for sure.
Zafar Gohar or Mohammad irfan combo with Shadab would have been deadly here.
 
Someone need to tell hassan to bowl on the stumps. He should try to get batsmen clean bowled. He is bowling too many short balls. Defensive approach!
 
Guptil, Munro, Williamson, Taylor, Latham, Anderson

I think that is pretty decent mate, especially for World Cup on flat pitches.
Anderson is not reliable and Latham is only good on slow pitches.
 
Taylor would have been a great of the game if it was not for his Pakistani level strike rotation.
 
Pakistani fast bowling apart from Shaheen has been worrisome for a while (minus Junaid's one-off against BD). We have Imad Wasim bowling in the 45th over :danish
 
Give it a rest.

If someone is chucking, you're going to call them out on it.

Learn the rules. That is NOT the job of the players. Won't be surprised if Taylor is fined.
 
Can we at least bowl them out? We'll probably let them get to 250.
 
But if I say you are not the one to say or entitled to say then?
I've lost the count how many times I've seen a fan on here accuse Hafeez of chucking again since his suspensions, just because Taylor called him out on it, you're mad?
 
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Pakistani fast bowling apart from Shaheen has been worrisome for a while (minus Junaid's one-off against BD). We have Imad Wasim bowling in the 45th over :danish

... It is a spinners paradise.
 
Learn the rules. That is NOT the job of the players. Won't be surprised if Taylor is fined.
Chucking is a worse offense and if he were tested again, this one would be a year long or permanent suspension would it not?
 
The issue with us has always been that we use exceptions and extrapolate them to believe that the player is incredible and would be in contention for ATG status in a few years. Salman Butt scored 1 century at Eden Gardens and he was the next Saeed Anwar. Nasir Jamshed scored 3-4 centuries against India and he was the next Saeed Anwar. Amir does well in 1 series in England - the next Wasim Akram.

Shadab's 3 wicket burst is great but this doesn't happen even 2 times out of 10. Just because he got 3 wickets in 1 over doesn't mean that Shadab is incredible for ODI cricket or that he will become one of the greatest Pakistani ODI spinners. He is a good T20 bowler and that's about it. He's done well in this game though.
 
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I've lost the count how many times I've seen a fan on here accuse Hafeez of chucking again since his suspensions, just because Taylor called him out on it, you're mad?

Yes man the world is so unfair but life goes on
 
Shadab should be man of the match if Pak wins, he single handedly broke NZ spine. Pakistan's game to lose now.
 
I've lost the count how many times I've seen a fan on here accuse Hafeez of chucking again since his suspensions, just because Taylor called him out on it, you're mad?

It's not in the spirit of the game. If a batsman feels a player is chucking he can let his captain know who in turn can complain to the referee.... gesturing that a bowler is chucking in the middle of the match is quite low.
 
I've lost the count how many times I've seen a fan on here accuse Hafeez of chucking again since his suspensions, just because Taylor called him out on it, you're mad?
yea i because I am not supposed to abide by the rules.
 
If you mean me I will still say his selection has not been good so far, another specialist spinners would have eaten up NZ. Imad May take few lucky wicekts when pressure is on but he is not the answer.

We agree another specialist spinner should be selected, Imad is a dud. However, too many people go overboard in their criticisms of Inzi.
 
Hasan pe yeh din bhi anay thay ke Sodhi se chakka kha le :))



Not been the same since Asif Ali onslaught
 
Chucking is a worse offense and if he were tested again, this one would be a year long or permanent suspension would it not?

Are you playing dumb on purpose? It's for the officials to officiate, it's for the players to play. Kapish?
 
The issue with us has always been that we use exceptions and extrapolate them to believe that the player is incredible and would be in contention for ATG status in a few years. Salman Butt scored 1 century at Eden Gardens and he was the next Saeed Anwar. Nasir Jamshed scored 3-4 centuries against India and he was the next Saeed Anwar. Amir does well in 1 series in England - the next Wasim Akram.

Shadab's 3 wicket burst is great but this doesn't happen even 2 times out of 10. Just because he got 3 wickets in 1 over doesn't mean that Shadab is incredible for ODI cricket or that he will become of the greatest Pakistani ODI spinners. He is a good T20 bowler and that's about it. He's done well in this game though.

Did you predict ABD becoming a player he became when he was avging early-mid 30s after 20 odd tests or Amla who was averaging 20 odd after 16 test matches. Shadab is just 19 and players take time to develop.
 
NZ might still end up with 250 which is a challenge for our batsmen.
 
yea i because I am not supposed to abide by the rules.
What rule has he broken here? There is no written rule that he's broken, he's accused a bowler who has already been suspended twice for chucking.
 
You k ow things are bad when your best bowler goes for a run a ball without a wicket and tailender hitting him for six.
 
Along with Babar, Imam is the only young player in this team with long-term value.

He gives a lot of posters tummy ache, but they should make peace with the fact that he is going to have 15 year career for Pakistan.

Hasan, Shadab etc. will fizzle out in a couple of years.
 
What rule has he broken here? There is no written rule that he's broken, he's accused a bowler who has already been suspended twice for chucking.
let see if he gets away with that or not for me fine is coming.
 
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