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The end of an innings that saved Pakistan today. Well played Yousuf 117 runs at a strike rate of around 83. I really dont know what we would have ended up with today without Yousuf.

well played.
 
Worrying lack of cricketing knowledge on this thread today...
 
He came in at 2 for 13 or some thing what strike rate would you like
 
sportacus said:
in other professional countries where they beleive in team spirit over individuals they get rid of selfish players



Quoted for emphsis
 
Oxy said:
Worrying lack of cricketing knowledge on this thread today...


mhmm

dont u think 6 off 2 balls is a great innings i mean just look at the strike rate!!


....

:P
 
Saj said:
The end of an innings that saved Pakistan today. Well played Yousuf 117 runs at a strike rate of around 83. I really dont know what we would have ended up with today without Yousuf.

well played.

probably over 300

Younus was batting fine

pitch is easy one to play on once you are in and not being put under pressure by someone at other end playing for personal milestones
 
sportacus said:
probably over 300



If and buts is not the matter of disscussion here. Yousaf is a brilliant player.

The problem is that he gave his personal goals precedence over the team's goals ... which is sad, because from player of his expirience and stature one would expect more sportsman ship.

had it been any league including the clubs here in Canada, he would have gotten nuff **** from his boys!
 
Pakistan look like they will finish about 30-40 runs short

that is the damning indictment of yousufs innings

he should have shepherded Pakistan to that easily attainable target but too focused on personal 'glory'
 
We just could not do it in the end, threw wkts away. I wish Afridi had been more careful
 
sportacus said:
probably over 300

Younus was batting fine

pitch is easy one to play on once you are in and not being put under pressure by someone at other end playing for personal milestones


And who would have got those runs in your hypothetical world based on 'ifs & buts'??
 
If Younis did not score who would, they have found out Shoaib he cant play the short ball. Afridi well hit and miss so only two real batters in the inning Yusuf and Younis
 
Oxy said:
And who would have got those runs in your hypothetical world based on 'ifs & buts'??


it dosent matter, the bottom line is that personal goals must not get in the way of team goals.

This isn't freak golf or something.

How can you overlookthe fact that he took 5 overs (40-45) to score 12 bloody runs. There are no excuses for such selfishness
 
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Pakistan are 20 runs short of a competitive target on a Lahore pitch.

Hopefully the addition of Rehman will help Pakistan's cause.
 
A good 30 runs short of what we looked like getting when moyo and malik were batting. The bowlers will have to bowl out of their skins today.

Gul ducking in the 50th over :p
 
WTH

Umar Gul plays a fantastic pull shot for 6.
 
Oxy said:
And who would have got those runs in your hypothetical world based on 'ifs & buts'??

umar gul?

he just hit a six

once players get in it isn't a hard pitch to bat on

yousuf put pressure on the others to throw there wickets before they got in
 
Agrees with the true passionist. Was expecting at least 280. Good bowling by SA at the end.
 
265/9 (50 overs)

Fighting total by Pakistan, should be a good game of cricket.
 
sportacus said:
umar gul?

he just hit a six

once players get in it isn't a hard pitch to bat on

yousuf put pressure on the others to throw there wickets before they got in

go check the scorecard mate. I would look at our so called openers in closer detail.
 
Hard for Pakistan to defend as we have only one wicket taker in GUL
 
sportacus said:
umar gul?

he just hit a six

once players get in it isn't a hard pitch to bat on

yousuf put pressure on the others to throw there wickets before they got in

TUrning into a real 'after the event / hindsight' kind of poster...
 
20-30 runs short

not losing Younus (Yousufs fault) could have made 10-20-30 runs difference

not having Yousuf hit only 12 runs off 5 overs also made the difference as he chased selfish personal milestones

Both of those down to Yousuf faults
 
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sportacus said:
umar gul?

he just hit a six

once players get in it isn't a hard pitch to bat on

yousuf put pressure on the others to throw there wickets before they got in


what are you on about!!
its not yousuf's fault mate
 
265 is still a good total, but Pakistan have to put pressure early on. Gul should open the bowling.
 
Anyway I think we have fully indicted Yousuf for his failures which are well known to many people and many posters on this board agree and Ian Bishop made similar points so no point belabouring the point or people trying to bury their heads in sand he always shows his selfishness in very public ways no point arguing over it now

those who can see and reason for themselves know the truth

PCB did not leave him out of 20-20 for a reason

South africa did not leave Kallis out of 20-20 for no reason

between Test and 20-20 it is clear these players lose their way

the last innings has shown once again that maybe Yousuf is not suited to ODI game not due to his class but unfortunately his selfishness
 
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Yousuf didnt make 12 off 5 overs, that makes it sound like he faced all 30 deliveries.
 
Yousuf played a fantastic knock, no matter what some people say. He wasnt the one who was supposed to hit out, it was up to Misbah, Afridi, Tanvir etc to smash boundaries in the end. Had Yousuf not been there we would have been all out for somewhere around 210, or maybe we wouldnt have reached 200!

Very disappointed by the decision to send Misbah ahead of Afridi. I mean 42nd over, why do you want to send in Afridi when there is no accomplished batsman to follow him?! Tanvir was outfoxed by a lot of slower deliveries, just not his day today. Umar's six was out of the blue, never expected that from him. As far as the openers are concerned, the less said the better. I would advise Malik to give a good phainti to Nazir in the dressing room

Decent total on this pitch. If Smith and Gibbs dont get away in the first 10 overs, we are in with an excellent chance to win this game
 
just by stating that does not make it true

the number of Pakistan fans expressing extreme disappointment in his attitude tells its own story
 
yes, the first 15 overs and how Malik rotates is bowlers is going to be the key here.

We are 15-20 runs short but the addition of Rehman should be a bonus on slowing pitch. We need to take the pace of the ball and Gul should get some of his yorkers right.

This is a vital match to make this series competitive, and Pakistan has a good chance of winning it.
 
Tanvir should add some off side shots to his armery, otherwise he can't be successful cosistently. today SA cleverly bowled everything on off stump or outside off stump line thus could keep him quiet. as I said erlier, at the moment he is a Robin Singh clone!!
 
the_game said:
We are seriously missing a "Razzaq" at the end of ODI innings these days.

Afridi along with Misbah are doing pretty well.
We only need a decent opening pair who can take us to 50-1 in 12 overs.
 
Don't take it personally, but all those people, who have been critisizing Moyo for playing slow and blah blah blah, have a zero cricket mentality.
 
People who are continuing to blame MOYO simply prove how clueless they are about this great game...
I think they should just go watch football or wrestling or some bollywood fillum !
 
it is so sad to see that player like MOYO is been picked upon and made out to be a bad guy ,when he did exactly what situation called for by staying at the wicket and safe guarding one end.MOYO is the reason we reached 265 today and that may turn out to be a winning total (long shot though).
Players like afridi, nazir are been made out to be the gods and been worshiped by the blind fans,whom have not idea what the game is all about all the care is to see a few big shots.
 
thurkeebaba said:
People who are continuing to blame MOYO simply prove how clueless they are about this great game...
I think they should just go watch football or wrestling or some bollywood fillum !
I guess same players blame Sachin for his inning. I am sure you think then Sachin is the greatest batsmen because he does score alot of 100s not sure how many help India to win though
 
can't believe people are slagging MoYo off,

what do u want this guy to do????

he has been the backbone for the side for a few years now, his role is to anchor the innings, not blaze away.

Some people like Sparticus and overload are used to 8 over gully cricket. in which dot balls are a crime.
 
We are probably 20 runs short of what we would have hoped for.

However the key stat for me is that we were 13 for 2 from 6.5 overs - and those 47 balls were all during the powerplay when the field is of course in. We have once again wasted the powerplay.
 
Inshallah, Pakistan will win this game and Moyo will be the Man of the Match.
 
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