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Pakistan vs Sri Lanka | Asia Cup Final 2014 | Dhaka | 8/3/2014 | Pre-Match Discussion

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So Rehman was of no use today and we lacked another seamer. Bring Junaid back and our balance is fantastic:

Hafeez
Shehzad
Alam
Maqsood/Misbah/Umar
Afridi
Gul
Ajmal
Talha
Junaid

6 FT bowlers, and 2 PT's in Maqsood and Alam. 6 FT batsmen, and one Afridi.

This is an extremely strong lineup.
 
1. Shezad
2. Sharjeel
3. Hafeez
4. Fawad
5. Maqsood
6. Misbah
7. Umar
8. Afridi
9. Ajmal
10. Junaid
11. Talha
 
Team balance is still off. Drop Rehman for Bhatti or Anwar.
 
Team balance is still off. Drop Rehman for Bhatti or Anwar.

Junaid. Bhatti and Anwar are pathetic bowlers. Might as well just add Sharjeel then and give Fawad those couple overs if that's the case.
 
1. Shezad
2. Sharjeel
3. Hafeez
4. Fawad
5. Maqsood
6. Misbah
7. Umar
8. Afridi
9. Ajmal
10. Junaid
11. Talha

I would go with this team but it won't happen.

I would swap Umar and Hafeez in the batting order.
 
Junaid. Bhatti and Anwar are pathetic bowlers. Might as well just add Sharjeel then and give Fawad those couple overs if that's the case.

Problem is if SRL take out one of our main bowlng options (Gul most likely)...then we are left in a really bad position and have to bowl part timers.

If anything, we should bring in Junaid for Talha. Occasion too big for him.
 
Gul just hasn't looked good enough since his comeback, I think we need Junaid for sure. Not sure whether fawad gives us a proper 6th bowling choice, but he definitely deserves a No.3/4 batting slot.

I think the OP's lineup is probable, but I wouldn't mind dropping a pacer in favour of another batsman (probably Gul for sharjeel), or bringing back rehman to redeem himself.
 
So Rehman was of no use today and we lacked another seamer. Bring Junaid back and our balance is fantastic:

Hafeez
Shehzad
Alam
Maqsood/Misbah/Umar
Afridi
Gul
Ajmal
Talha
Junaid

6 FT bowlers, and 2 PT's in Maqsood and Alam. 6 FT batsmen, and one Afridi.

This is an extremely strong lineup.

LoL your tail starts at number 6.. what a line up
 
Dropping Abdur Rehman for Junaid Khan is a given.
If Sharjeel gets well on time then Pakistan will drop Sohaib Maqsood for Sharjeel Khan.

1. Sharjeel Khan
2. Ahmed Shehzad
3. Mohammad Hafeez
4. Fawad Alam
5. Misbah
6. Umar Akmal
7. Afridi
8. Umar Gul
9. Saeed Ajmal
10. Junaid Khan
11. Mohammad Talha
 
How to keep Fawad Alam in team? drop 1 bowler? or drop Sharjeel?

Fawad proved once again he should be part of the team and he is the one who can construct innings for Pakistan when needed so now the problem is how to fit him in 11. Today he played because Shajreel was unfit so how to fit him in 11 in next matches? Should we drop Sharjeel or go 1 bowler short like many teams do in ODI?
 
Junaid. Bhatti and Anwar are pathetic bowlers. Might as well just add Sharjeel then and give Fawad those couple overs if that's the case.

Well even if we drop Bhatti and Anwar, we still have 5 front line bowlers, so Fawad would only be needed in an emergency.

I can't see the logic of selecting a player to bowl only 4/5 overs and contribute very little with the bat.
 
Well even if we drop Bhatti and Anwar, we still have 5 front line bowlers, so Fawad would only be needed in an emergency.

I can't see the logic of selecting a player to bowl only 4/5 overs and contribute very little with the bat.

However all our pacers have been getting smashed at times this tourney, having a backup for one of them is ideal. Bhatti was an important contributor not too long ago.
 
Probably Sohaib Maqsood will get the axe...

Sharjeel is important member of opening unit... And combo of Sharjeel, Shahzad & Hafeez has been working to date...

So a high probablity that Alam takes the No. 4 slot from Maqsood !!
 
Today it was clear we don't need extra bowler. Drop Rehman for Sharjeel. The only thing is weather we bring Junaid for Talha or Gul.
 
Problem is if SRL take out one of our main bowlng options (Gul most likely)...then we are left in a really bad position and have to bowl part timers.

If anything, we should bring in Junaid for Talha. Occasion too big for him.

If they take out our main bowlers I wouldn't have much hope for Bhatti or Anwar. Drop Gul and play Junaid and Tahla as the front line pacers.

Maqsood, Fawad and Shehzad to bowl the 5 rescue overs if one bowler has a bad day.
 
Tough call....
Get Rehman out, methinks.

Sorry, but he'll be all over the place after today.
 
LoL your tail starts at number 6.. what a line up

No.....I mean Misbah, Umar an Maqsood depend on the situation.


I picked these guys:

Hafeez
Shehzad
Fawad
Maqsood
Umar
Misbah
Afridi
Gul
Ajmal
Junaid
Talha
 
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How to keep Fawad Alam in team? 1 bowler short? or drop sharjeel?

Let's go one bowler short hafeez is a complete bowler fawad can send in couple of overs


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Playing XI for the Final?

Mine would be

Ahmed S
Sharjeel K
Hafeez
Fawad
Misbah
Umar A
Afridi
Anwar Ali
Gul
Ajmal
Junaid / Talha


Maqsood misses out there, but then cannot play both him and Sharjeek K. Well they can if the trust him and Alam to bowl any overs if needed.
 
Tough call....
Get Rehman out, methinks.

Sorry, but he'll be all over the place after today.

Rehman won't play in the final but that still leaves someone else to make way for Junaid's return.

A few days ago I'd have said drop Afridi for Fawad, move Hafeez to #7 and stick Fawad in the middle order but after the last two games there's no way Afridi is going anywhere.
 
Drop the bowler, get maqsood, fawad, shehzad to make up overs if say afridi/gul/talha go for runs
 
Mine would be

Ahmed S
Sharjeel K
Hafeez
Fawad
Misbah
Umar A
Afridi
Anwar Ali
Gul
Ajmal
Junaid / Talha


Maqsood misses out there, but then cannot play both him and Sharjeek K. Well they can if the trust him and Alam to bowl any overs if needed.


I agree 100 % , they need to get in a batting all rounder.
 
Drop bowler for him, no need to play with 4 proper bowlers. The tail is to damn long.
 
However all our pacers have been getting smashed at times this tourney, having a backup for one of them is ideal. Bhatti was an important contributor not too long ago.

If the front line bowlers get smashed Bhatti isn't really going to do much better.

I'd rather play the extra batsman and try to make up the deficit.

You can't pick players on the basis that they will have a bad day.

What if one of the batsmen have a bad day? We're already one batsman short. What if SRL take out 2 of our front line bats early? An extra batsman would come in handy. Somehow, this is lost on the Pakistani think tank.

ODIs are a batsman's game, successful sides pack their teams with as many batsmen as possible. Our bowling isn't weak, our batting is, hence needs strengthening.
 
2 pretty obvious changes:
Talha will make way for Junaid Khan..
Rehman will get dropped for one of Bhatti / Anwar Ali

And 3rd one is a probability:
Maqsood will probably have to make way for Sharjeel Khan

...

And it may not be the bad idea, as Maqsood seems to be a bit out of form these days... Considering his current form, Anwar Ali / Bilawal Bhatti can bat similarly to Maqsood with advantage of another pacer in lineup..
 
Its unfair to drop Maqsood. It was because of the umpires' pathetic decision that he didn't get a chance to bat today.
 
drop rehman for junaid and keep same team....Sharjeel can be saved for t20 WC

If Sharjeel isn't fit then your swap works for me.

Fawad at #3, Maqsood #4, Misbah back down to #5
 
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maqsood needs to go brings nothing to the table

for final vs sri lanka my playing xi

1.sharjeel
2.shahzad
3.hafeez
4.fawad
5.misbah
6.umar
7.afridi
8.gul
9.talha (if talha is injured replace with anwar ali)
10.ajmal
11.junaid
 
Sharjeel
Shehzad
Hafeez
Fawad
Misbah
Umar
Afridi


Should be top 7 if we play a maqsood than it will have to in place of a full time bowler as Hafeez is bowling better than all except Ajmal anyway so he can complete his quota with Fawad etc chipping in a few overs here and there.
 
Rehman should be dropped.

We didn't miss his bowling at all.

Junaid / Sharjeel coming in to replace Rehman is only change needed.
 
1. Shehzad
2. Sharjeel
3. Hafeez
4. Fawad
5. Misbah
6. Afridi
7. Umar
8. Anwar Ali
9. Ajmal
10. Junaid
11. Talha
 
If Sharjeel isn't fit then your swap works for me.

Fawad at #3, Maqsood #4, Misbah back down to #5

i would switch Maqsood at #5 with Misbah if Pakistan near a collapse like Aussies do with Maxwell.
 
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Go in with the same team with junaid coming in for rehman.
 
Sri Lanka are likely to win. There's no way Afridi can do that against Malinga.
 
For ODIs, our tail is too big.

And the real problem starts here while our batting line up (first 6) are also not reliable enough.

Therefore, Fawad Alam is a must in place of that extra bowler.

Hafeez is a complete bowler and should be considered so.


Pak Team should be:


1. Sharjeel
2. Shehzad
3. Hafeez

4. Fawad

5. Sohaib
6. Misbah
7. Akmal

8. Afridi

9. Gul
10. Ajmal
11. Junaid
 
For the time being team should be the same but the management needs to figure out its best bowling resources. Its a tough call for them, Junaids been off colour of late whereas Talha went for runs today and Gul just isnt the same as he used to be.
 
Afridi
Afridi
Afridi
Afridi
Afridi
Afridi
Afridi
Afridi
Afridi
Afridi
Afridi

:afridi
 
Go with one bowler short.

1. Sharjeel
2. Shehzad
3. Hafeez
4. Misbah
5. Fawad Alam
6. Umar Akmal
7. Sohaib Maqsood
8. Afridi
9. Gul
10. Junaid
11. Ajmal

Sohaib down to seven, his form's been off and Umar Akmal and now Fawad deserve to be ahead of him. Plus Maqsood at seven could actually work well, the man can hit pretty well.
 
Won't mind both optons though would prefer, Fawad in place off Sharjeel
 
Most likely will be maqsood.... But personally would play one less bowler and get fawad to strengthen our chances of chasing...
 
Sharjeel is a sitting duck in ODI. His quick 20-30 is more useful in T20. I'd rather have professor open in ODI with Fawad at 3 or 4.
 
Drop a bowler (rehman) for sharjeel and get junaid back in for gul
 
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Sri Lanka are likely to win. There's no way Afridi can do that against Malinga.

SL is also his fav team. He just need to take Malinga for singles with odd 4. As long as he doesnt try to hit six then its ok.
 
For ODIs, our tail is too big.

And the real problem starts here while our batting line up (first 6) are also not reliable enough.

Therefore, Fawad Alam is a must in place of that extra bowler.

Hafeez is a complete bowler and should be considered so.


Pak Team should be:


1. Sharjeel
2. Shehzad
3. Hafeez

4. Fawad

5. Sohaib
6. Misbah
7. Akmal

8. Afridi

9. Gul
10. Ajmal
11. Junaid
I would go with this line up , this team will win the final.
 
There is no place for Misbah when 'Fawad The Anchor cum matchwinner' is there :fawad. Give the captaincy to Hafeez. bring back Juni , Sharjeel and Bhatti. drop Gul and rehman
 
For ODIs, our tail is too big.

And the real problem starts here while our batting line up (first 6) are also not reliable enough.

Therefore, Fawad Alam is a must in place of that extra bowler.

Hafeez is a complete bowler and should be considered so.


Pak Team should be:


1. Sharjeel
2. Shehzad
3. Hafeez

4. Fawad

5. Sohaib
6. Misbah
7. Akmal

8. Afridi

9. Gul
10. Ajmal
11. Junaid

If Pakistan Play this , they will win, excellent team.
 
There is no place for Misbah when 'Fawad The Anchor cum matchwinner' is there :fawad. Give the captaincy to Hafeez. bring back Juni , Sharjeel and Bhatti. drop Gul and rehman

If anything today proved you need more that one 'anchor' as long as he can rotate strike beside Fawad plays at a decent SR without the glamorous cover drives
 
Junaid for rehman is only change we need.

Hafeez always acts as 4/5th bowler as he tends to bowl 10 overs and Fawad is there as 6th bowler if needed.
 
Most likely the ax will fall on Maqsood or Sharjeel, unfortunately. :(
Well, i hope the axe falls on Sharjeel rather than Maqsood. I've not been overly convinced since his arrival and feel Pakistan's best hope would be to maintain the same squad as today with Junaid returning to the team in place of Rehman.

Sharjeel seems incapable of playing a long innings whilst Maqsood showed in the last game vs India that he can build a partnership in the middle which is what we desperately need. He has also shown that he can also hit the big shots when required. I would stick with Maqsood over Sharjeel any day. Having said that, i hope they keep Sharjeel close to the team as he has great potential. Just needs to learn how to play a longer innings.
 
Well, i hope the axe falls on Sharjeel rather than Maqsood. I've not been overly convinced since his arrival and feel Pakistan's best hope would be to maintain the same squad as today with Junaid returning to the team in place of Rehman.

Sharjeel seems incapable of playing a long innings whilst Maqsood showed in the last game vs India that he can build a partnership in the middle which is what we desperately need. He has also shown that he can also hit the big shots when required. I would stick with Maqsood over Sharjeel any day. Having said that, i hope they keep Sharjeel close to the team as he has great potential. Just needs to learn how to play a longer innings.
Having said that, for those short innings, I would certainly keep him for the T20 games.
 
Lots of questions..
Gul doesnt deserve to be in the playing 11 ahead of Junaid.

We do not need 6 specialist bowlers. Thats way too much.
Fawad is here to stay thats for sure !
 
Sharjeel is a must. You cannot expect Mohammad Hafeez to continue switching back and forth between opening and one-down. I say drop 1 bowler.
 
For ODIs, our tail is too big.

And the real problem starts here while our batting line up (first 6) are also not reliable enough.

Therefore, Fawad Alam is a must in place of that extra bowler.

Hafeez is a complete bowler and should be considered so.


Pak Team should be:


1. Sharjeel
2. Shehzad
3. Hafeez

4. Fawad

5. Sohaib
6. Misbah
7. Akmal

8. Afridi

9. Gul
10. Ajmal
11. Junaid

This is the best team and I just hope Misbah used his Iota of a brain for a change and play this squad. It adds so much balance and Fawad and Maqsood can easily bowl 3 to 4 overs as backup
 
1.Shehzad
2.Sharjeel
3.Hafeez
4.Alam
5.Maqsood
6.Misbah
7.Umar
8.Afridi
9.Bhatti
10.Anwar Ali
11.Ajmal

:) A try to win the match via batting
 
Fawad's style of play suits only in top 4 but he never bats in the top order even for domestic sides.
I am not sure if his technique suits for number 3 at this stage.
 
MUST MUST need to add Junaid because Gul is totally useless in death over these days. So drop Rehman and bring in Junaid
 
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