Pakistan vs Sri Lanka | Asia Cup Final 2014 | Dhaka | 8/3/2014 | Pre-Match Discussion

[London_Lahori]

1) Shehzad
2) Sharjeel
3) Hafeez
4) Misbah
5) Fawad
6) Umar Akmal
7) Maqsood
8) Afridi
9) Talha
10) Ajmal
11) Junaid

That batting line up gives you flexibility to adjust to game situations.

Bowlers would be:

Junaid
Talha
Ajmal
Hafeez
Afridi
Fawad/Maqsood

 

[waqar goraya]

Some selection dilemmas ahead for management.

 

[abc_to_xyz]

Drop Gul for Junaid, and Rehman for Sharjeel

 

[Haz95]

Pakistan team for the final?

Junaid must play vs his bunnies


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[critic]

i always support going with one extra batsman but knowing its never gonna happen, (also hafeez dropping down to no. 7 is not gonna happen) so optimised solution with this approach is as stated below

if sharjeel is fit, play him otherwise sohaib maqsood. i wish sharjeel to be fit
reason: sharjeel and sohaib both look for boundaries more than singles. so we cant afford to have guy in middle who cant rotate strike and gets out due to dots pressure. so according to role sharjeel fits more.

having observed that spinners are more successful in this tour + no healthy contribution from gul, talha, bilawal, anwar with bat + all fast bowlers getting good phainty, i think we can replace one fast bowler with abdurrehman. please no dropping junaid, he is best death bowler. we paid the price for not playing him in BD game as we went for over 100 in last 10 overs.

ahmad
sharjeel
hafeez
fawad
misbah
umar akmal
afridi
talha/junaid (whoever is fit)
abdurrehman
ajmal
junaid

 

[critic]

Your playing XI for the final against Sri Lanka?

I always support going with one extra batsman but knowing its never gonna happen, (also hafeez dropping down to no. 7 is not gonna happen) so optimised solution with this approach is as stated below if sharjeel is fit, play him otherwise sohaib maqsood.

I wish sharjeel to be fit reason: sharjeel and sohaib both look for boundaries more than singles. so we cant afford to have guy in middle who cant rotate strike and gets out due to dots pressure. so according to role sharjeel fits more. having observed that spinners are more successful in this tour + no healthy contribution from gul, talha, bilawal, anwar with bat + all fast bowlers getting good phainty, i think we can replace one fast bowler with abdur rehman. please no dropping junaid, he is best death bowler. we paid the price for not playing him in BD game as we went for over 100 in last 10 overs.

ahmad
sharjeel
hafeez
fawad
misbah
umar akmal
afridi
talha/junaid (whoever is fit)
abdurrehman
ajmal
junaid

 

[Canistani Hero]

1)Shehzad
2)Hafeez
3)Fawad
4)Misbah
5)U Akmal
6)Maqsood
7)Afridi
8)Gul
9)Talha
10)Ajmal
11)Junaid

 

[ali kc]

1-ahmad
2-sharjeel
3-hafeez
4-fawad
5-misbah
6-umar akmal
7-Maqsood
8-afridi
9-Junaid
10-Gul
11-ajmal

Might be one bowler short but we will need the batting depth against Malinga & Co

 

[DrSchultz]

1)Shehzad
2)Sharjeel
3)Hafeez
4)Fawad
5)Umer Akmal
6)Misbah
7)Sohaib Maqsood/Anwar Ali/Bilawal Bhatti
8) Shahid Afridi
9) Talha
10)Saeed Ajmal
11) Junaid Khan

Can't see how we will get a more balanced side.

 

[waqar goraya]

1)Shehzad
2)Hafeez
3)Fawad
4)Misbah
5)U Akmal
6)Maqsood
7)Afridi
8)Gul
9)Talha
10)Ajmal
11)Junaid

Good line up.
I have a concern that if a wicket falls early then Fawad will be eaten alive by Malinga at 3. He is a middle or lower order batsman but if he can bat at 3 then it would be a blessing for Pakistan.

 

[Saqs]

Re: How to keep Fawad Alam in team? drop 1 bowler? or drop Sharjeel?

Seems most likely that Shahid will be injured for the final so Fawad is guaranteed a spot.

Also we can't drop Maqsood just yet. If Sharjeel is still injured then send Maqsood to open and use Hafeez in his most productive position at 3.

 

[menace2society]

No point sending in Alam at no.3 to face Malinga just like that. Would be a suicide mission.

This is what I'm thinking:

Shehzad
Sharjeel
Hafeez
Misbah
Alam
Umar Akmal
Afridi
Gul
Talha
Ajmal
Junaid

 

[waqar goraya]

Maqsood i am afraid will be left out if Sharjeel gets fit.

 

[PakCricFanatic]

Fawad did open against SL in a Test match successfully, not saying that he should be sent in at 3 but if we play on another road in the finals it wouldn't really matter who bats where in the top 6.

 

[critic]

1)Shehzad
2)Sharjeel
3)Hafeez
4)Fawad
5)Umer Akmal
6)Misbah
7)Sohaib Maqsood/Anwar Ali/Bilawal Bhatti
8) Shahid Afridi
9) Talha
10)Saeed Ajmal
11) Junaid Khan

Can't see how we will get a more balanced side.

definitely more balanced than what i posted in op. but team management will go with 6 bowlers as we have seen in recent past. anwar ali and bilawal are not justifying 6th bowler in these conditions as all fast bowlers are getting phainty. so spinner would be good in these circumstances. so only 2 solutions are

1. go with 5 bowlers only and add extra batsman
2. go with 6 bowler
management will favor second option and i would not like to see bilawal or anwar ali as 6th bowler in these conditions.

 

[gazza619]

1. Professor
2. Pakistani Kohli
3. Inzi v2
4. If he gets run out we win
5. Jadeja wanna be
6. Traffic violator
7. Boom boom
8. Anwar Ali (sorry couldn't find a nic for him )
9. Guldozer
10. Chautha
11. Kohli is his bunny

 

[Nazir_ Rules]

Afridi
Afridi
Afridi
Afridi
Afridi
Afridi
Afridi
Afridi
Afridi
Afridi
Afridi

You missed Afridi! How could you!?

 

[Nido]

1. Professor
2. Pakistani Kohli
3. Inzi v2
4. If he gets run out we win
5. Jadeja wanna be
6. Traffic violator
7. Boom boom
8. Anwar Ali (sorry couldn't find a nic for him )
9. Guldozer
10. Chautha
11. Kohli is his bunny

Twi additions only: How about The Great Khalli for anwar and Rickshaw for Gulldozer

 

[s28]

Twi additions only: How about The Great Khalli for anwar and Rickshaw for Gulldozer

or Bananaman

 

[saadsahabjee]

Shehzad------------------------------------------> batsman
Hafeez-------------------------------------------->all rounder
Maqsood----------------------------------------->batsman
Fawad-------------------------------------------->all rounder
Misbah-------------------------------------------->batsman
Umer Akmal--------------------------------------->batsman
Afridi------------------------------------------------>all rounder
Bhatti----------------------------------------------->all rounder
Junaid----------------------------------------------->bowler
Gul -------------------------------------------------->bowler
Ajmal------------------------------------------------->bowler

 

[Square Drive]

Drop Maqsood (unless Sharjeel stays injured).

 

[Rahy425]

Would like to see sharjeel back there but I doubt that will happen since hafeez performed well opening. Still think we need another batsman though. Can't expect afridi to bail us out again

My xi
Shehzad
Sharjeel
Hafeez
Fawad
Misbah
U Akmal
Maqsood
Afridi
Talha
Junaid
Ajmal

 

[AZulfi]

Drop Rehman and Sohaib (no batting performance plus a liability in the field, has been unable to converts starts). Sharjeel and Junaid should return

My Final XI:

1. Ahmed Shehzad
2. Sharjeel Khan
3. Hafeez
4. Fawad Alam
5. Misbah (c)
6. Umar Akmal (wk)
7. Afridi
8. Anwar Ali
9. Ajmal
10. Umar Gul (but don't bowl him at the death, can bat as well)/Talha
11. Junaid

 

[justarslan]

Play this team and Pakistan will become Champions of Asia.

1. Shezad
2. Sharjeel
3. Misbah
4. Fawad
5. Maqsood
6. Umar
7. Hafeez
8. Afridi
9. Ajmal
10. Junaid
11. Talha

 

[PAF]

Sharjeel should be rested. His performance was also below par. Drop Abdur Rehman for Junaid Khan.
Final XI

Ahmed Shehzad

Mohammad Hafeez

Misbah ul Haq

Sohaib Maqsood

Fawad Alam

Umar Akmal

Shahid Afridi

Anwar Ali

Umar Gul

Saeed Ajmal

Junaid Khan

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[AZulfi]

Sharjeel looked quite decent against India. L/R combo is always handy. But he needs to start converting starts..

 

[PAF]

Re: Pakistan team for the final?

Sharjeel looked quite decent against India. L/R combo is always handy. But he needs to start converting starts..

Quick 20's/30's won't help. He needs to score consistently now. The bar should be raised. Hafeez and Shehzad are doing a good job as openers and our middle/lower order looks solid too.

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[AZulfi]

same goes for Sohaib as well. Initially thought he could become the next Inzy but he is not converting starts plus is a liability in the field

 

[PAF]

Sharjeels average is 22 with 1 fifty and on the other hand Sohaib average is 33 with 3 Fifties. I know they have just started their careers. Both are talented and are our future prospects.

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[world cup captain]

I just want to tell people hafeez won't bat lower that 4 and that is it. Also he is performing at 3 so what is the problem.

 

[Hamza_]

Sharjeel
Shehzad
Hafeez
Fawad
Misbah
Sohaib
Akmal
Afridi
Bhatti
Junaid
Ajmal

Looks very strong side.

 

[FreakCricket]

1) Shehzad
2) Hafeez
3) Fawad
4) Misbah
5) Maqsood
6) Umar Akmal
7) Afridi
8) Gul
9) Ajmal
10) Talha
11) Junaid




Solid eleven I hope we play this team for final .


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[blackanhyellow]

1) Sharjeel
2) Shahzad
3) Hafeez
4) Fawad
5) Misbah
6) Maqsood
7) Umar Akmal (wk)
8) Afridi
9) Umar Gul
10) Ajmal
11) Junaid

 

[godzilla]

id like to see pakistan go in with five front line bowlers rather than six too. they are there to bowl their quota, and akram should earn is wage by ensuring they now how to recover if things are not going their way.

1 sharjeel
2 shahzad
3 hafeez
4 alam
5 misbah
6 sohaib
7 akmal
8 afridi
9 ajmal
10 talha
11 junaid

thats five front line bowlers pluas sohaib, alam and shahzad if they really need it. if its a spinning track, maybe drop sharjeel for rahman.

to be honest though, i dont think it matters too much which team they pick - the bowlers havent been stand out disappointingly, other than ajmal and hafeez, so they are all pretty interchangeable. a longer batting line up takes off the pressure of reliance on afridi and akmal to slog - theyve come off so far, but they wont always.

 

[ads101]

1. Shehzad
2. Sharjeel
3. Hafeez
4. Misbah
5. Fawad
6. Umar
7. Sohaib Maqsood
8. Afridi
9. Gul
10. Ajmal
11. Junaid

 

[MMHS]

Shehzad
Sarzeel
Hafeez
Fawad
Misbah
Umar
Maqsood
Afridi
Talha
Ajmal
JK/Gul

There is absolutely no need to take 3 pacers in that wicket (Since IND is out, I am sure now they 'll play on the central wicket - the one PAK-BD took place). PAK has solid 30 overs from spin trio, backed up by Fawad & even Shehzad. Putting Umar, Maqsood & Afridi at 6, 7 & 8, 'll allow PAK to chase almost 350 on that wicket if Shehzad or Fawad (or Misbah) can play another such "selfish" innings.

I think, last win 'll make SRL nervous & Angelo might not wish to win the toss. Previously, it was business as usual - win the toss, bat first & set something that 'll need PAK batsmen to play out 50 overs. But, after that "selfish" innings by Shehzad & "Tuk Tuk" innings by Fawad, every team 'll be a bit confused to set target against PAK.

 

[Canistani Hero]

1) Shehzad
2) Hafeez
3) Fawad
4) Misbah
5) Maqsood
6) Umar Akmal
7) Afridi
8) Gul
9) Ajmal
10) Talha
11) Junaid

 

[Red Devil]

Shehzad
Hafeez
Fawad
Maqsood
Misbah
Umar
Afridi
Bhatti/Anwar
Ajmal
Junaid
Gul/Talha

 

[cricket99]

1. Ahmad Shehzad
2. Sharjeel Khan

3. Md Hafeez
4. Fawad Alam
5. Misbah ul Haq

6. Shahid Afridi
7. Umar Akmal

8. Anwar Ali
9. Bilawal Bhatti

10.Saeed Ajmal
11. Junaid Khan

 

[imran1976]

Maqsood batted responsibly in run chase against India in a pressure game, yesterday it was a very bad decision - don't see any point in dropping him.

 

[Logical]

Sharjeel for Rehman, only because the young lad has to be given a fair run.

He hasn't shown much promise to be honest, his technique is awful or just non existent. Needs to convert his 20s into something substantial or he will be history very soon.

Really hope Nasir becomes the player he used to be then we would be looking at a really formidable batting unit.

Maqsood is the future, can't believe some people want him dropped. He played a crucial role in the chase against India where he was run out and against Bangladesh was wrongly given out when there was day light between bat and ball.

 

[razabbas]

Gul out Sharjeel In
Rehman out Junaid In

 

[hussain.r97]

I don't think we need an extra batsman as our batting goes down to #7 (#8 if you count Gul), and has been firing of late. Maqsood is in horrible form while Fawad is in good form. Fawad should stay while Maqsood should be dropped in favour of Sharjeel (if he's fit), because Sharjeel gives us really good starts which allow Shehzad to play his natural game (build into his innings)...

1.)Sharjeel
2.)Shehzad
3.)Hafeez
4.)Fawad
5.)Misbah
6.)Umar Akmal
7.)Shahid Afridi
8.)Umar Gul
9.)Saeed Ajmal
10.)Mohammad Talha
11.)Junaid Khan

 

[Logical]

I don't think we need an extra batsman as our batting goes down to #7 (#8 if you count Gul), and has been firing of late. Maqsood is in horrible form while Fawad is in good form. Fawad should stay while Maqsood should be dropped in favour of Sharjeel (if he's fit), because Sharjeel gives us really good starts which allow Shehzad to play his natural game (build into his innings)...

1.)Sharjeel
2.)Shehzad
3.)Hafeez
4.)Fawad
5.)Misbah
6.)Umar Akmal
7.)Shahid Afridi
8.)Umar Gul
9.)Saeed Ajmal
10.)Mohammad Talha
11.)Junaid Khan

no he's not.

Played well against India and had a run out then was given wrongly out against Bangladesh when he clearly didnt edge it.

Seems like people dont watch the actual match and make their judgements on the scorecards.

 

[cricket083]

Junaid in place of Talha,this is the only change I want in the team.

 

[Alam_dar]

I am not sure about Fawad in ODIs yet.

Fawad can hit 4s against the Fast Bowlers ... but he cannot hit 6s against fast bowlers

Fawad can hit 6s against spin bowlers .... but he cannot hit 4s against the spinners.

 

[PTI tsunami]

Pakistan vs Sri Lanka | Asia Cup Final 2014 | Dhaka | 8/3/2014 | Pre-Match Di...

Junaid in place of Talha,this is the only change I want in the team.

So u would play the specialist fielder rehman

 

[steelo green]

no he's not.

Played well against India and had a run out then was given wrongly out against Bangladesh when he clearly didnt edge it.

Seems like people dont watch the actual match and make their judgements on the scorecards.

Totally agree with this. Afridi ran him out (which is fine, he ended up winning us the match) and last match he was miles away from the ball when given out.

I think there should be a fine on players for appealing when the ball hasn't hit the bat. Is that not the equivalent to what Rashid Lateef did in lying that he caught the ball when he didn't?

WK's know when they hit the bat or not and their WK was simply a clown jumping up and down.

 

[steelo green]

So u would play the specialist fielder rehman

I lol'd

 

[Saurav]

Pak will win

 

[Maher96]

Lol at people saying maqsood is in no form. The guy has been batting inform. He has had no issues was run out once n given out wrongly.


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[Canistani Hero]

1.)Shehzad
2.)Hafeez
3.)Fawad
4.)Misbah
5.)Maqsood
6.)Umar Akmal
7.)Shahid Afridi
8.)Umar Gul
9.)Saeed Ajmal
10.)Mohammad Talha
11.)Junaid Khan

Beat this Sri Lanka

 

[razabbas]

1) Ahmed Shehzad
2) Mohammad Hafeez
3) Sohaib Maqsood
4) Fawad Alam
5) Umar akmal
6) Misbah ul haq
7) Afridi
8) bilawal
9) Junaid
10)Talha
11) Ajmal

Wanted sharjeel in team but fawad deserves his spot ahead of him

 

[Saurav]

add Sharjeel for Talha imo

 

[Canistani Hero]

Umer Gul won't be dropped. He's our senior most bowler and he got Kohli out

 

[itsme]

My playing XI:
-shezad
-sharjeel
-hafeez(vs subcontnet he is good at 3) captain
-fawad
-maqsood
-umar
-afridi
-bhatti/anwar
-gul(i prefer talha but he is new and a final gonna too much for him now)
-ajmal
-junaid

 

[OmaIR1]

I am not sure about Fawad in ODIs yet.

Fawad can hit 4s against the Fast Bowlers ... but he cannot hit 6s against fast bowlers

Fawad can hit 6s against spin bowlers .... but he cannot hit 4s against the spinners.

worst post on pakpassion this week/

 

[thivakar]

Kusal will hit the ball up in the air in first ball and get out. Sanga will choke, Mahela and Chandimal will continue their fabulous form, T.Perera will run out Mathews and De Silva. Rest will crawl in to 160 to 180. Expect Thirimaae and Mathews to stick around for awhile. Its a Pakistan victory.

 

[asadee]

is Afridi fit for the final?

 

[cricket083]

So u would play the specialist fielder rehman

Bowling is more important than fielding.

 

[choclate]

is Afridi fit for the final?

My question as well same- although 2 out of 2 is already defying Lala's law of averages but the way he is hitting the ball and not to mention the 10 overs we need from him

 

[choclate]

I am not sure about Fawad in ODIs yet.

Fawad can hit 4s against the Fast Bowlers ... but he cannot hit 6s against fast bowlers

Fawad can hit 6s against spin bowlers .... but he cannot hit 4s against the spinners.

Did we see the same game yesterday?

 

[Kiri]

Kusal
Mahela
Sanga
Chandimal
Thirumanne
Priyanjan
Mathews
Perera
Mendis
Malinga
Chaturanga de Silva

 

[Justcrazy]

Shehzad
Sarzeel
Hafeez
Fawad
Misbah
Umar
Maqsood
Afridi
Talha
Ajmal
JK/Gul

There is absolutely no need to take 3 pacers in that wicket (Since IND is out, I am sure now they 'll play on the central wicket - the one PAK-BD took place). PAK has solid 30 overs from spin trio, backed up by Fawad & even Shehzad. Putting Umar, Maqsood & Afridi at 6, 7 & 8, 'll allow PAK to chase almost 350 on that wicket if Shehzad or Fawad (or Misbah) can play another such "selfish" innings.

I think, last win 'll make SRL nervous & Angelo might not wish to win the toss. Previously, it was business as usual - win the toss, bat first & set something that 'll need PAK batsmen to play out 50 overs. But, after that "selfish" innings by Shehzad & "Tuk Tuk" innings by Fawad, every team 'll be a bit confused to set target against PAK.

I would go with , just a bit more variation. '

But this looks a very good team. I do not think Pakistan management sensible enough to select this.

 

[Fire Bird]

Shezad
Sharjeel
Hafeez
Misbah
Maqsood
Fawad
UAkmal
Afridi
Talha
Ajmal
Junaid

 

[mussu-100]

I just want to tell people hafeez won't bat lower that 4 and that is it. Also he is performing at 3 so what is the problem.

People have this strange grudge against him.

Everyone already knows that Hafeez is more than good enough to be our 5th bowler, and we don't use Bhatti/Anwar when they do play :/

I'd be tempted to play both Sharjeel and Maqsood.

Fawad and Misbah will give stability to the middle order, and Maqsood, Umar and Afridi will form a solid lower middle order...

Rest Talha.

 

[siddharth]

Pakistan got the momentum and are clear favorites to win the title..Also Pak generally have an upperhand over Lanka in knockout matches..

 

[Ray]

For ODIs, our tail is too big.

And the real problem starts here while our batting line up (first 6) are also not reliable enough.

Therefore, Fawad Alam is a must in place of that extra bowler.

Hafeez is a complete bowler and should be considered so.


Pak Team should be:


1. Sharjeel
2. Shehzad
3. Hafeez

4. Fawad

5. Sohaib
6. Misbah
7. Akmal

8. Afridi

9. Gul
10. Ajmal
11. Junaid

Completely agree. We have five full time bowlers nd fawad as a part timer to bowl 3 to 4 overs. Gul needs to be told to keep his nerves cause on these pitches bowler will get smacked even on decent bowls. His problem is he gets worked up nd starts bowling poor line or useless poor bouncers when one or two of his decent bowl gets smacked. Saw the same with talha. They need to realize this on these pitches nd shorter boundaries.

 

[OmaIR1]

is the pakistan team going to stick around in bangladesh since the World T20 is going to happen there and their first match is on the 21st?

 

[Saqs]

Re: Pakistan vs Sri Lanka | Asia Cup Final 2014 | Dhaka | 8/3/2014 | Pre-Match Discus

Have a feeling Maqsood will make a ton.

 

[Energetic]

I think Pakistan will get nearly all of the support. Crush those Lankans.

 

[kinventor]

Pakistan need to bring Sharjeel and drop Rehman. Rest of the team can stay the same, or bring Juni in place of Gul or Talha.

 

[Ray]

Guys should Pakistan bat or bowl first if we win the toss?

Nt sure after two successful chases

 

[akamaka]

Guys should Pakistan bat or bowl first if we win the toss?

Nt sure after two successful chases

I would say chase, srilankan has malinga that's all, see him off and the rest are on the Bangladesh level. Also don't forget sanga has been chasing very well this tournament not to mention his overall record against us. Matthews has finished off loads of games for them.

Put them in get , contain and then hope for dew 2nd innings.

 

[Adil_94]

I'd drop Rehman for Junaid and Talha for Sharjeel purely on the basis that our batting is still seriously weak the last two games gave hidden our teams imbalance due to Afridis match winning efforts Im sure Fawad can sneak 4-5 overs in if needed if we go in with Afridi at 7 our batting is still exposed we can't keep relying on Afridi to produce these type of knocks eventually the law of averages will catch up with him Afridi at 8 would be his ideal position for me but also he could be moved up the order if the situation requires it

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[Sohaib011]

Fawad in for sohaib

Junaid in for reman

Sharjeel
Shahzad
Hafeez
Fawad
Misbah
Affers
Akmal
Gul
Talha
Khan
Ajmal

 

[justarslan]

Play this team and we will win the cup.

1) Shehzad
2) Sharjeel
3) Hafeez (I only have him in top order because he has batted well so far. Otherwise i would have him at 6 or 7.
4) Fawad
5) Misbah
6) Maqsood
7) Akmal
8) Lala
9) Talha
10) Ajmal
11) Junaid

 

[kinventor]

Play this team and we will win the cup.

1) Shehzad
2) Sharjeel
3) Hafeez (I only have him in top order because he has batted well so far. Otherwise i would have him at 6 or 7.
4) Fawad
5) Misbah
6) Maqsood
7) Akmal
8) Lala
9) Talha
10) Ajmal
11) Junaid

I like it, batting is strong.

 

[Red Devil]

is the pakistan team going to stick around in bangladesh since the World T20 is going to happen there and their first match is on the 21st?

Yes. A few more players will join them.

 

[yadunoe]

same line up as last match but bhatti in for rehman , his pace will be more effective on dead wickets