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[PICTURE] Fact check: Moqa Moqa is nothing but a smokescreen by Indians to hide their embarrassing record against Pakistan

Hellion said:
I asked a simple question, brother? Was it a KO match or not ?

Why are you sharing these things. India effectively knocked Pakistan out in both World Cups too.

What are you even trying to prove by sharing this?
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It's obvious man, who is trying to manipulate things here....

So India wasn't eliminated in 2004 after losing to Pakistan 🤔. And I am not saying "effectively" but for 2004 it is definitive even for 3-1 guy
 
The Bald Eagle said:
It's obvious man, who is trying to manipulate things here....

So India wasn't eliminated in 2004 after losing to Pakistan 🤔. And I am not saying "effectively" but for 2004 it is definitive even for 3-1 guy
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No it's not definitive. It wasn't a KO match. Yes , it's very obvious you are manipulating and deliberately bring provocative to make such "successful" threads :misbah
 
Hellion said:
No it's not definitive. It wasn't a KO match. Yes , it's very obvious you are manipulating and deliberately bring provocative to make such "successful" threads :misbah
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I quoted you my and 3-1 gaffe posts yesterday....what were the words that he used??

So ICC did great injustice to India by letting them not progress ahead after losing to Pakistan in 2004 CT 👏👏👏
 
@The Bald Eagle

I Can't believe this guy is still crying with my "3-1" remark which is literally the reality. :ROFLMAO:

India vs Pakistan in ICC knockouts...

India won 3

1996 World cup Quarter Final
2007 T20 World Cup Final
2011 ODI World Cup Semi Final

Pakistan won 1

2017 Champions Trophy Final


So anyone who has the basic ability to count will tell that it is..

INDIA 3 -1 Pakistan :shhh

Again...it won't change no matter how much you cry about it.
 
Mesozoic said:
@The Bald Eagle

3-1 in ICC Tournament Knockouts :shh

8-0 in ODI World Cups. :shh

15-1 in all World Cups. :shh


7 ICC Titles vs 3 ICC Titles :shh

8 Asia cup Wins vs 2 Asia cup wins. :shh


There...I have given you more facts to cry about. :ROFLMAO:
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Why would anyone ban you for an opinion? You're a great poster even if you and I disagree on things lol.

Also this is a pretty weird thread. This thread would only be true for India in the 1990's where Pakistan was genuinely superior but India had their number in icc events.

By 2000's the lines became blurred and by 2010 onwards it was clear who was superior.

By 2020 onwards it's a joke, Pakistan is a minnow that would struggle against 2007 Zimbabwe and 2003 Kenya while current India is capable of taking on 1990's Australia and possibly winning in odi atleast.

In tests they'll probs lose.

I think current India is only getting demolished by classic wi and 2000's Australia in odi and test.

Otherwise the current indian team is definitely on par with 1996 aus in odi cricket and can compete in test cricket with them as well
 
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Mesozoic said:
You should ask @The Bald Eagle lol..

Guy banned me from posting on one of his threads which he created to counter my statement in the first place. :ROFLMAO:

That too a simple factual statement of India having a 3-1 record against Pakistan in ICC tournament Knockouts.
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Either way the only reason Pakistan remains ahead of india in win loss ratio is due to hostile relations preventing india and Pakistan from meeting more then once or twice a year.

Whereas Pakistan would freqently smoke the trash Indian team of the 90's and would still hold a slight edge over them from 2000-2004.

Beyond that its a mismatch. I don't see Pakistan beating India for decades in odi so moqa moqa is not a mask.

I can only see them beating India in a t20 but that would be contigent upon if the conditons are similar to New York where even SA struggled against Nambia.

You need conditons that completly remove the skill factor and rely purely on luck in order to help Pakistan beat India in t20.

Otherwise currently india dominates Pakistan black amd blue. This is a 1996 Australian level odi team and a top tier peak t20 side possibly greatest of all time.

They suck in test cricket though. Are clearly toothless without Bumrah bowling wise now that ashwin and jadeja are also ageing and batting wise their playing 3 horrible batters (rohit, kohli and Gill).

But even in test cricket they'd badly butcher current Pakistan lol. Current Pakistan is possibly the worst test cricket side I've ever seen. Even worse then classic era Zimbabwe or current WI and sri lanka lol.
 
We still want to see India-pakistan clashes. At least I want to see more game between these 2 nations. Every time they meet, it is a whole different vibe. Moqa moqa or whatever, game should continue
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Today I will just post pics and people to be the judge

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CWC 2019
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And 2004 CT...👇
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Your own post discredits you.

2019 WC if Pak had won vs Ind they would be at 13 points tied with India and would have made the semis.

It would have been Aus Ind Pak Eng. In fact it would have been Ind-Pak in the semis.

2003 WC if Pak had won vs Ind they would have been at 14 tied with Zim and it would have come to NRR and if Pak wins against Ind the NRR would also be better than what it was so they would go through as the no 3 team in place of Zimbabwe.

Both of these are same as 2004 and 2021 as is 2023, 2024, 2024, 2014, 2016 etc.

Direct KOs it is 3-1 (96, 07, 11 vs 17)

Indirect it is 7-3 (03, 14, 16, 19, 23, 24, 25 vs 04, 09, 21)
 
BouncerGuy said:
We still want to see India-pakistan clashes. At least I want to see more game between these 2 nations. Every time they meet, it is a whole different vibe. Moqa moqa or whatever, game should continue
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More games will only make this fixture boring.

Indian fans will eventually get tired of seeing their team maul Pakistan repeatedly and Pakistani fans will probably lose interest in cricket altogether.

The only reason why the yearly ICC match between the two teams gets the hype it does is because of the scarcity of this fixture and the novelty factor. You take that away and it's just like any other random game between a strong side and a weak side.
 
mominsaigol said:
Either way the only reason Pakistan remains ahead of india in win loss ratio is due to hostile relations preventing india and Pakistan from meeting more then once or twice a year.

Whereas Pakistan would freqently smoke the trash Indian team of the 90's and would still hold a slight edge over them from 2000-2004.

Beyond that its a mismatch. I don't see Pakistan beating India for decades in odi so moqa moqa is not a mask.

I can only see them beating India in a t20 but that would be contigent upon if the conditons are similar to New York where even SA struggled against Nambia.

You need conditons that completly remove the skill factor and rely purely on luck in order to help Pakistan beat India in t20.

Otherwise currently india dominates Pakistan black amd blue. This is a 1996 Australian level odi team and a top tier peak t20 side possibly greatest of all time.

They suck in test cricket though. Are clearly toothless without Bumrah bowling wise now that ashwin and jadeja are also ageing and batting wise their playing 3 horrible batters (rohit, kohli and Gill).

But even in test cricket they'd badly butcher current Pakistan lol. Current Pakistan is possibly the worst test cricket side I've ever seen. Even worse then classic era Zimbabwe or current WI and sri lanka lol.
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I won't say India team sucks in tests considering how bad most test teams are (which is kind of expected become the smaller teams really can't afford to have a test pipeline). I would say 3rd-4th.

I still expect them to beat the likes of Bang, Pak, WI etc in any conditions.
 
Mesozoic said:
More games will only make this fixture boring.

Indian fans will eventually get tired of seeing their team maul Pakistan repeatedly and Pakistani fans will probably lose interest in cricket altogether.

The only reason why the yearly ICC match between the two teams gets the hype it does is because of the scarcity of this fixture and the novelty factor. You take that away and it's just like any other random game between a strong side and a weak side.
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This is true.

There is not anything special about India-Pak.

India has a similar record against SL, Bang, WI etc in the last decade that it has vs Pak.

Pak has a similar record against Aus, Eng etc in the last decade that it has vs Ind.
 
saimayubera said:
I won't say India team sucks in tests considering how bad most test teams are (which is kind of expected become the smaller teams really can't afford to have a test pipeline). I would say 3rd-4th.

I still expect them to beat the likes of Bang, Pak, WI etc in any conditions.
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I meant 3rd or 4th. I'm not counting Bang, Pakistan, Wi, Sri Lanka and other teams for obvious reasons.

I can see India beating SA as well and England too.

But theirs a huge hige gap between them vs Aus and Nz atm.

India will beat England at home this summer. I'm sure of it.
 
Mesozoic said:
@The Bald Eagle

3-1 in ICC Tournament Knockouts :shh

8-0 in ODI World Cups. :shh

15-1 in all World Cups. :shh


7 ICC Titles vs 3 ICC Titles :shh

8 Asia cup Wins vs 2 Asia cup wins. :shh


There...I have given you more facts to cry about.
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Lol as usual poor life of @Mesozoic continues...get online, humbled and owned by me and then get offline whenever he sees me online 😎 🤣


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Now here is the things that keep 3-1 gaffe humbled forever.

1. Who eliminated India in ICC CT 2024? :gilly
2. Ok what is the score between India and Pakistan in finals 10-4 or 9-4 :gilly
3. What is the score between them in ICC finals? :gilly
4. Who dominates India in their Home? Pakistan 😂:gilly
5. Who dominates India in Pakistan
6. Who dominates India in neutral Venues? :gilly
7. Who aces the head to head record? :gilly
8. In which planet was 2019 WC match between India and Pakistan a do or die? :gilly
9. But sir we have more trophies...lol ofcourse you have. But a secondary question does Trophy count makes Pakistan superior to New Zealand?? :virat1

@Bhaag Viru Bhaag after seeing this post to 3-1 gaffe guy
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Lol I am so many points for 3-1 gaffe too but can't elaborate because of my duties.

But just a simple challenge for him name ONE ICC event in which India progressed to next round after losing to Pakistan forget about Knockouts...

PS: Pakistan have won a WC and CT after losing to India 🤣😂😂

3-1 gaffe master after seeing his gaffe contributing to success of this thread. 👇

(TBE consoling Mesozoic)

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Lol Modi g could not go 400 par but if 3-1 gaffe keep contributing then 1000 isn't far...Imagine getting annoyed because my house of cards crossed 100 posts and then contributing to this thread 6x times. He would be like
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The Bald Eagle said:
Lol as usual poor life of @Mesozoic continues...get online, humbled and owned by me and then get offline whenever he sees me online 😎 🤣


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Now here is the things that keep 3-1 gaffe humbled forever.

1. Who eliminated India in ICC CT 2024? :gilly
2. Ok what is the score between India and Pakistan in finals 10-3 or 9-3 :gilly
3. What is the score between them in ICC finals? :gilly
4. Who dominates India in their Home? Pakistan 😂:gilly
5. Who dominates India in Pakistan
6. Who dominates India in neutral Venues? :gilly
7. Who aces the head to head record? :gilly
8. In which planet was 2019 WC match between India and Pakistan a do or die? :gilly
9. But sir we have more trophies...lol ofcourse you have. But a secondary question does Trophy count makes Pakistan superior to New Zealand?? :virat1

@Bhaag Viru Bhaag after seeing this post to 3-1 gaffe guy
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You can wipe away those tears now. These incoherent ramblings and posting lame pictures ain't gonna help your non existing case at all. And lol at me running away whenever you are online...it's so easy to make me get my knickers in a twist that I'd do this all a thousand days in a row like I'm sipping a cup of water. Love making you cry and rant helplessly.:ROFLMAO:

No matter how much you cry about it..fact remains the same..

In ICC knockout games - India have a 3-1 record against Pakistan and have more than twice the number of their ICC titles..

No amount of crying will make you get away from beneath our foot. :inti
 
The Bald Eagle said:
But just a simple challenge for him name ONE ICC event in which India progressed to next round after losing to Pakistan forget about Knockouts...

PS: Pakistan have won a WC and CT after losing to India 🤣😂😂
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What a retarded logic... :yk

India have lost just 4 games against Pakistan in ICC tournaments and Pakistan have lost 18 against us:ROFLMAO:

It's not India's fault that you guys surrender against us in big events on most occasions.

We will much rather prefer beating Pakistan and winning the tournaments like we did in 2007, 2011, 2013, 2024 and 2025. :shhh
 
Mesozoic said:
You can wipe away those tears now. These incoherent ramblings and posting lame pictures ain't gonna help your non existing case at all. And lol at me running away whenever you are online...it's so easy to make me get my knickers in a twist that I'd do this all a thousand days in a row like I'm sipping a cup of water. Love making you cry and rant helplessly.:ROFLMAO:

No matter how much you cry about it..fact remains the same..

In ICC knockout games - India have a 3-1 record against Pakistan and have more than twice the number of their ICC titles..

No amount of crying will make you get away from beneath our foot. :inti
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Lol you have gone crazy...loving it
 
Mesozoic said:
What a retarded logic... :yk

India have lost just 4 games against Pakistan in ICC tournaments and Pakistan have lost 18. :ROFLMAO:

It's not India's fault that you guys surrender against us in big events on most occasions.
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Lol...stopping running away as usual...and answer about 10-4 or 9-4 in finals and lol post 583 contains great questions...answer one them one before running again.

And as per your latest U19 admission it's 2-1 in ICC finals now 🤣🤣😎
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Lol...stopping running away as usual...and answer about 10-4 or 9-4 in finals and lol post 583 contains great questions...answer one them one before running again.

And as per your latest U19 admission it's 2-1 in ICC finals now 🤣🤣😎
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Stop begging me and provide me a source for that finals 10- record.

Cricket joshila and I have been asking but you are running away from that question as usual like a weak hearted coward :yk
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Everyone will see who is coward....planning to run again without answering :virat1
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Yes a pea hearted guy who couldn't handle me on a thread he created after getting triggered by me and proceeded to ban me with tears in his eyes lmao. :uakmal
 
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Mesozoic said:
Yes a pea hearted guy who couldn't handle me owning him on a thread he created after getting triggered by me and proceeded to ban me with tears in his eyes is definitely not a coward lmao. :uakmal
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Ready to get owned again poor Meso...wetty kid lol..
 
Number of times India beat Pakistan and went onto win an ICC tournament - 5

Number of times Pakistan beat India and went onto win an ICC tournament - 1

5-1

:shh


Yet another record to make @The Bald Eagle cry in despair. :yk3
 
All finals record
cricketjoshila

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IAJ said:
I usually avoid these threads, but this piece of stats suprised me.

Indians have been bragging about how well they play against Pakistan in World Cups when the preassure is on. Well that is fine.

But there is no more preassure games than finals in tournaments and Pakistan lead 8-3, wow, that was a real surprise. So Pakistan actually handle the preassure when it matters the most lol.
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Depends on what type of final? Coca cola cup kind of finals?

Or Asia Cup T20WC kind of final?

Are coca cola cup kind of finals more important than a knockout match of a ICC event?

Also Pakistan...
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Mesozoic said:
Stop begging me and provide me a source for that finals 10- record.

Cricket joshila and I have been asking but you are running away from that question as usual like a weak hearted coward :yk
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The Bald Eagle

Post in thread '[PICTURE] Fact check: Moqa Moqa is nothing but a smokescreen by Indians to hide their embarrassing record against Pakistan'

cricketjoshila said:
@The Bald Eagle

Can you please post a link for this 8-3 finals figure?
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Thanks CJ for posting details in post #344, but will add the details that you missed
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And obviously you guys don't consider the following final at all 😂

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So the revised score is 10-4 or if you want to say but but then 9-4

@Rajdeep
Sorry bro ap to khul gye 🤭😜
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The Bald Eagle said:
All finals record
cricketjoshila

Post in thread '[PICTURE] Fact check: Moqa Moqa is nothing but a smokescreen by Indians to hide their embarrassing record against Pakistan'

IAJ said:
I usually avoid these threads, but this piece of stats suprised me.

Indians have been bragging about how well they play against Pakistan in World Cups when the preassure is on. Well that is fine.

But there is no more preassure games than finals in tournaments and Pakistan lead 8-3, wow, that was a real surprise. So Pakistan actually handle the preassure when it matters the most lol.
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Depends on what type of final? Coca cola cup kind of finals?

Or Asia Cup T20WC kind of final?

Are coca cola cup kind of finals more important than a knockout match of a ICC event?

Also Pakistan...
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Lmao that is your source? :rp

You seem to be a pro at humiliating yourself..
 
Mesozoic said:
Again...stop begging me to answer your dumb questions until you provide a source of what you claim. Why is it that hard for you?
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But but sir provide source....but I will keep rambling Pak vs Ind 2019 WC was a do or die match...source: swami mesozic 3-1 gaffe.

Please don't digress.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Threads success?

Is that the new metric of success of Pakistan cricket?
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CJ PCT is in new low these days but this thread deals with Pak vs Ind historical record.

Just a question for you is Pakistan wayyy better than New Zealand because PCT has more ICC titles than them...simple question
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Yes, India had a chance to save themselves but against whom? 🤔 Zimbabwe or peak 🦘
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Unlike Pakistan, India beats Australia. And had just won the CB series in Australia the year before and went onto knockout Australia of the next WC 18 months later.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
CJ PCT is in new low these days but this thread deals with Pak vs Ind historical record.

Just a question for you is Pakistan wayyy better than New Zealand because PCT has more ICC titles than them...simple question
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I will tell you something, i will give Pakistan more chances of winning a ICC title than NZ. Anyday.

There's something called will to win.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
But but sir provide source....but I will keep rambling Pak vs Ind 2019 WC was a do or die match...source: swami mesozic 3-1 gaffe.

Please don't digress.
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Lmao still no source for that finals record..

@cricketjoshila I think you were onto something. This guy might just have plucked that stat out of his youknowwhere out of sheer desperation. What an ownage it must be to make up straight lies to save face :ROFLMAO:
 
The Bald Eagle said:
CJ PCT is in new low these days but this thread deals with Pak vs Ind historical record.

Just a question for you is Pakistan wayyy better than New Zealand because PCT has more ICC titles than them...simple question
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Pakistan has just one more icc title than New Zealand lol.

OTOH , India has more than twice the number of ICC titles than Pakistan. Now that is what we call being beneath one's shoe. :shh
 
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Mesozoic said:
Pakistan has just one more icc title than New Zealand lol. I AM barking as if you have dozen of them. :ROFLMAO:

OTOH , India has more than twice the number of ICC titles than Pakistan. Now that is what we call being beneath one's shoe. :shh
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Lol ready to get owned for lol I don't know how many times now.

South Africa has won 1 title and Pakistan has won thrice that....So your T20 WC 2024 win was nothing

Epic ownage of 3-1 gaffe 🤣 😎😎
 
Lol see the ultimate desperation...there is literally the breakdown of whole record into individual games and dates....but but sir we have more titles and 2019 pak vs Ind was do or die 🤣🤣🤣...source: trust me gaffe bro
Mesozoic said:
Lmao still no source for that finals record..

@cricketjoshila I think you were onto something. This guy might just have plucked that stat out of his youknowwhere out of sheer desperation. What an ownage it must be to make up straight lies to save face :ROFLMAO:
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The Bald Eagle said:
Thanks for adding to my stock of knowledge
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India won in Australia in 2008.

India lost in India in 2009.

India won in India in 2010

India won the WC QF in 2011

That's 4-1 in favour of India over a 4 yr period.

You need to further addition in your stock.

Next time just don't copy paste. Here on PP we ask questions even if the OP is an admin.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Lol see the ultimate desperation...there is literally the breakdown of whole record into individual games and dates....but but sir we have more titles and 2019 pak vs Ind was do or die 🤣🤣🤣...source: trust me gaffe bro
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The actual knockouts are QF SF and Finals. India is ahead of Pakistan in that 3-1.

You can keep trying to make group games into knockouts but the actual record will still say 3-1.

Threads on PP don't change ICC records.
 
cricketjoshila said:
India won in Australia in 2008.

India lost in India in 2009.

India won in India in 2010

India won the WC QF in 2011

That's 4-1 in favour of India over a 4 yr period.

You need to further addition in your stock.

Next time just don't copy paste. Here on PP we ask questions even if the OP is an admin.
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I appreciate...lol but why such a random time frame...why not the VERY NEXT series after CT 2009 in your own country...and was 2011 the peak of Australia or start of the transient period of downfall 🤔.

Why not you help us see record of India vs Australia in 2000s, please enlighten us more...atleast you talk with facts and stats unlike you know the poor guy 🤣
 
Fine. Brother who knocked India out of CT 2004 or ICC at that time unjustly removed ICT abruptly from tournament.
cricketjoshila said:
The actual knockouts are QF SF and Finals. India is ahead of Pakistan in that 3-1.

You can keep trying to make group games into knockouts but the actual record will still say 3-1.

Threads on PP don't change ICC records.
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cricketjoshila said:
The actual knockouts are QF SF and Finals. India is ahead of Pakistan in that 3-1.

You can keep trying to make group games into knockouts but the actual record will still say 3-1.

Threads on PP don't change ICC records.
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That guy has completely lost the plot. Just look at how incoherent and emotional he sounds all of the time... almost looks like he's literally shivering while typing these posts. :ROFLMAO:

On one hand, he wants group stage wins to be counted as knockouts, but if we use his same dumb logic , he throws a hissy fit and continues to post gibberish while shivering.

My "3-1 :shhh" might just have scarred him for eternity. :yk
 
Lol look who is talking...answer post 583 first poor chap

And lol simple question why on earth India was sent packing from CT 2004...lol they lost only ONE match and what was the name of the team can you please assist? 🤔
Mesozoic said:
That guy has completely lost the plot. Just look at how incoherent and emotional he sounds all of the time... almost looks like he's literally shivering while typing these posts. :ROFLMAO:

On one hand, he wants group stage wins to be counted as knockouts, but if we use his same dumb logic , he throws a hissy fit and continues to post gibberish while shivering.

My "3-1 :shhh" might just have scarred him for eternity. :yk
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The Bald Eagle said:
Lol see the ultimate desperation...there is literally the breakdown of whole record into individual games and dates....but but sir we have more titles and 2019 pak vs Ind was do or die 🤣🤣🤣...source: trust me gaffe bro
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Where is the breakdown? Those desperate smilies won't cover for your embarassment.

Until you provide a source for that finals record, you will have very tough time saving your face. We ain't gonna let you run away. :klopp
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Lol look who is talking...answer post 583 first poor chap
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You're just going around in circles.

Where is the source for the 10-3 finals record of Pakistan?

You did mention that in 583 didn't you?

Come on...stop being a coward for once and show us the source. :inti
 
Mesozoic said:
Where is the breakdown? Those desperate smilies won't cover for your embarassment.

Until you provide a source for that finals record, you will have very tough time saving your face. We ain't gonna let you run away. :klopp
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Oh 😱 I am scarred. You all are coming now 🤣🤣
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Lol as usual poor life of @Mesozoic continues...get online, humbled and owned by me and then get offline whenever he sees me online 😎 🤣


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Now here is the things that keep 3-1 gaffe humbled forever.

1. Who eliminated India in ICC CT 2024? :gilly
2. Ok what is the score between India and Pakistan in finals 10-4 or 9-4 :gilly
3. What is the score between them in ICC finals? :gilly
4. Who dominates India in their Home? Pakistan 😂:gilly
5. Who dominates India in Pakistan
6. Who dominates India in neutral Venues? :gilly
7. Who aces the head to head record? :gilly
8. In which planet was 2019 WC match between India and Pakistan a do or die? :gilly
9. But sir we have more trophies...lol ofcourse you have. But a secondary question does Trophy count makes Pakistan superior to New Zealand?? :virat1

@Bhaag Viru Bhaag after seeing this post to 3-1 gaffe guy
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@Mesozoic you mean this post?
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Lol as usual poor life of @Mesozoic continues...get online, humbled and owned by me and then get offline whenever he sees me online 😎 🤣


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Now here is the things that keep 3-1 gaffe humbled forever.

1. Who eliminated India in ICC CT 2024? :gilly
2. Ok what is the score between India and Pakistan in finals 10-4 or 9-4 :gilly
3. What is the score between them in ICC finals? :gilly
4. Who dominates India in their Home? Pakistan 😂:gilly
5. Who dominates India in Pakistan
6. Who dominates India in neutral Venues? :gilly
7. Who aces the head to head record? :gilly
8. In which planet was 2019 WC match between India and Pakistan a do or die? :gilly
9. But sir we have more trophies...lol ofcourse you have. But a secondary question does Trophy count makes Pakistan superior to New Zealand?? :virat1

@Bhaag Viru Bhaag after seeing this post to 3-1 gaffe guy
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@Mesozoic lol who is running away 🤣🤣...facing some eyesight issues too now
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The Bald Eagle said:
I appreciate...lol but why such a random time frame...why not the VERY NEXT series after CT 2009 in your own country...and was 2011 the peak of Australia or start of the transient period of downfall 🤔.

Why not you help us see record of India vs Australia in 2000s, please enlighten us more...atleast you talk with facts and stats unlike you know the poor guy 🤣
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I chose the time line between 2 world cups when. From first round exit to championship win. Shows how India had transformed as a team and how beating Australia wasn't impossible for India. Between 2008 till the conclusion of the 2011 WC India had W/L ratio of 1.93 in ODIs.

Against Australia it was 1.16

The Indian team and the Australian team both changed post 2007. Glenn McGrath retired.Adam Gilchrist retired. Matthew Hayden retired.

While the Indian team under Dhoni transformed into a younger fitter team that won 2 ICC titles in 4 years after the 2007 WC.

So no Pakistan didn't knock out India in 2009. India had every chance of beating Australia.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Fine. Brother who knocked India out of CT 2004 or ICC at that time unjustly removed ICT abruptly from tournament.
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Who knocked pakistan out of the 1996 2011 and 2007 ICC events?

Coming to group games taken as knockouts. By your logic, India knocked out Pakistan in the last CT.

Since you also claim that Pakistan knocked out India of the CT 2009, India knocked out Pakistan of the 2003 WC?

Any which way you try, India holds a superior ICC events record vs Pakistan.
 
cricketjoshila said:
I chose the time line between 2 world cups when. From first round exit to championship win. Shows how India had transformed as a team and how beating Australia wasn't impossible for India. Between 2008 till the conclusion of the 2011 WC India had W/L ratio of 1.93 in ODIs.

Against Australia it was 1.16

The Indian team and the Australian team both changed post 2007. Glenn McGrath retired.Adam Gilchrist retired. Matthew Hayden retired.

While the Indian team under Dhoni transformed into a younger fitter team that won 2 ICC titles in 4 years after the 2007 WC.

So no Pakistan didn't knock out India in 2009. India had every chance of beating Australia.
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Yes Australia was regressing and India rising...But in 2009 they weren't world beaters and therefore lost to Pakistan and Australia in home series too...so not definitive...but the SF in CTs would have been same.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Who knocked pakistan out of the 1996 2011 and 2007 ICC events?

Coming to group games taken as knockouts. By your logic, India knocked out Pakistan in the last CT.

Since you also claim that Pakistan knocked out India of the CT 2009, India knocked out Pakistan of the 2003 WC?

Any which way you try, India holds a superior ICC events record vs Pakistan.
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*India and New Zealand losses contributed to Pak elimination...I guess similar to what happened to India in 2021
 
cricketjoshila said:
Who knocked pakistan out of the 1996 2011 and 2007 ICC events?

Coming to group games taken as knockouts. By your logic, India knocked out Pakistan in the last CT.

Since you also claim that Pakistan knocked out India of the CT 2009, India knocked out Pakistan of the 2003 WC?

Any which way you try, India holds a superior ICC events record vs Pakistan.
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Yes, I don't deny that and hence the title of the thread.

By the way, let's be honest who eliminated India in CT 2004....and unlike your previous above comparisons...That right is reserved EXCLUSIVELY to a single team here...that many aren't naming
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Yes Australia was regressing and India rising...But in 2009 they weren't world beaters and therefore lost to Pakistan and Australia in home series too...so not definitive...but the SF in CTs would have been same.
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India had beaten Australia the year before and had a 3-1 record in 4 years.

So it wasn't definitive that Australia would have won and India would be out. So Pakistan didn't knockout India of the 2009 CT.

Good that you agree.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
*India and New Zealand losses contributed to Pak elimination...I guess similar to what happened to India in 2021
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Not similar.

In 2021 India Pakistan was the first match of India. They had 4 matches after that. Winning all would have meant qualification for India.

In 2024 India Pakistan was Pakistan's second game, a loss meant pakistan didn't have enough matches left to qualify.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Yes, I don't deny that and hence the title of the thread.

By the way, let's be honest who eliminated India in CT 2004....and unlike your previous above comparisons...That right is reserved EXCLUSIVELY to a single team here...that many aren't naming
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If we take CT 2004 and CT 2024

It means its still 4-2 India.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Not similar.

In 2021 India Pakistan was the first match of India. They had 4 matches after that. Winning all would have meant qualification for India.

In 2024 India Pakistan was Pakistan's second game, a loss meant pakistan didn't have enough matches left to qualify.
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Nope they are kind of similar, as NZ would have lost to some minnow side too after defeating India...it was a big 10 margin victory that ensured India's exit after loss to NZ...as run rate equation would have hardly risen

And if you search, PCT was knocked out the day NZ beat BD
 
cricketjoshila said:
India won in Australia in 2008.

India lost in India in 2009.

India won in India in 2010

India won the WC QF in 2011

That's 4-1 in favour of India over a 4 yr period.

You need to further addition in your stock.

Next time just don't copy paste. Here on PP we ask questions even if the OP is an admin.
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And when did you won a series in Australia in 2008? As I couldn't find yet
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Nope they are kind of similar, as NZ would have lost to some minnow side too after defeating India...it was a big 10 margin victory that ensured India's exit after loss to NZ...as run rate equation would have hardly risen

And if you search, PCT was knocked out the day NZ beat BD
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NZ beat India and that's why India was knocked out. There was no involvement of any run rate any where. Infact India had a superior RR than anyone in that group.
 
cricketjoshila said:
NZ beat India and that's why India was knocked out. There was no involvement of any run rate any where. Infact India had a superior RR than anyone in that group.
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But here is the point of exclusivity. New Zealand and Pakistan in 2021, India and New Zealand 2025...PCT still had a chance to progress to CT 2025 sf but lots of if and buts
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Nope they are kind of similar, as NZ would have lost to some minnow side too after defeating India...it was a big 10 margin victory that ensured India's exit after loss to NZ...as run rate equation would have hardly risen

And if you search, PCT was knocked out the day NZ beat BD
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This guy doesn't even know how NRR is calculated and how number of wickets left doesn't even matter in NRR calculations.

No wonder this mod goes ahead and bans people. I am scared my nappies feel wet. :ROFLMAO:
 
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