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Dr_Bassim said:
What is wrong with thanking Allah if you have scored a century?

You can even thank Allah without century and you can even come out to bat and do Sajdah for being given the honor to represent your team.

Anyone who has issues with it, has issues with Islam.

The only thing Pakistani players should be worried about, though, is that their centuries are often useless in the clinical situations.
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Not sure why people are so worried about how someone thanks Allah. Switch off the tv if you dont like seeing it
 
ali2220 said:
Very well said!
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people crossing themselves in football games is ok, Salah doing sajda is also ok but God Forbid if a Pakistan players deems it necessary to thank his creator - Tauba Tauba - Nauzobillah!
 
Bilal7 said:
Wow, you're seriously confused. What would you call an action that is consistently done by an athelete when he does well in his sport?

A celebration.

The sajda is a celebration and it is not done only by Pakistanis. That destroys your dumb claim of it being solely a Pakistani thing. You clearly don't follow many sports because if you did, you would know that it is a very common form of celebration.

Also, you need to provide evidence for your claim that there is some sort of sajda-mafia that will ruin the career of any player that does not do the sajda because without any evidence, it sounds like a ridiculously hokey conspiracy theory. How about you start allowing people to express themselves and not letting their forms of expression bother you? Because for someone who seems so concerned about the state of society, your thinking is nightmarishly autocratic.
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I'd call an action that was nowhere to be seen a few years ago but has now become a norm for thanking the almighty as fake and forced.

Yeah I saw how 'very common' it is elsewhere when I went through your extensive list of athletes! Also, pretty sure I follow and am exposed to more sports than you are.

Also, I'm not stopping anyone. Just pointing out the sad state of affairs and how most in our society would lap up and defend till the hilt anything that has an inkling of religion.

Anyway, the topic is such that there's no way anyone can influence someone else's opinion on it. Also, you're coming across as quite antagonized so I'll sign out. You could love the sajdah all you want, to me it'll always come across as forced
 
Snowflake said:
I'd call an action that was nowhere to be seen a few years ago but has now become a norm for thanking the almighty as fake and forced.

Yeah I saw how 'very common' it is elsewhere when I went through your extensive list of athletes! Also, pretty sure I follow and am exposed to more sports than you are.

Also, I'm not stopping anyone. Just pointing out the sad state of affairs and how most in our society would lap up and defend till the hilt anything that has an inkling of religion.

Anyway, the topic is such that there's no way anyone can influence someone else's opinion on it. Also, you're coming across as quite antagonized so I'll sign out. You could love the sajdah all you want, to me it'll always come across as forced
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The Sajdah is actually obligatory and you do it at least bare minimum of 4 + 8 + 8 + 6 + 8 + (2/6) times depending on how you recite your "Witr".

If you don't love the Sajdah your faith is weak.

It is infact astonishing, that you are okay with doing Sajdah at least bare minimum of 36 times a day asking Allah for forgiveness, yet that one extra Sajdah is bothering you the extent that there is a 4 page diatribe against the advantages and disadvantages of Sajdah.

It would have been understandable if a bunch of foreigners lumped together did not have the clarity of thought to understand why we bow before Allah as a small sacrifice to thank him any time we want.

What is cringeworthy is that a group of left wing Muslim idealists are actually questioning if the Sajdah is forced or even required at all, while you are on the field.

So basically, you are not allowed to offer prostration before your Lord anytime except obligatory Salah?

You are so warped up in your hate for a simple celebration, that you do not even realize the gravity of your unlearned statements.
 
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It does apply to me coz I do not prostrate after having a cup of tea. Prostration is exclusively for salat, sport!
 
Dr_Bassim said:
The Sajdah is actually obligatory and you do it at least bare minimum of 4 + 8 + 8 + 6 + 8 + (2/6) times depending on how you recite your "Witr".

If you don't love the Sajdah your faith is weak.

It is infact astonishing, that you are okay with doing Sajdah at least bare minimum of 36 times a day asking Allah for forgiveness, yet that one extra Sajdah is bothering you the extent that there is a 4 page diatribe against the advantages and disadvantages of Sajdah.

It would have been understandable if a bunch of foreigners lumped together did not have the clarity of thought to understand why we bow before Allah as a small sacrifice to thank him any time we want.

What is cringeworthy is that a group of left wing Muslim idealists are actually questioning if the Sajdah is forced or even required at all, while you are on the field.

So basically, you are not allowed to offer prostration before your Lord anytime except obligatory Salah?

You are so warped up in your hate for a simple celebration, that you do not even realize the gravity of your unlearned statements.
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Lol! Sorry, Doctor Sahab Can't really respond after that and 'Anyone who has a problem with Sajdah has a problem with Islam :)))
 
Snowflake said:
Lol! Sorry, Doctor Sahab Can't really respond after that and 'Anyone who has a problem with Sajdah has a problem with Islam :)))
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Sajdah is prostration to the Almighty, a sign of ultimate respect to His will - if there is a problem with that then the above statement is correct. I dont see what the mirth is all about in your post?
 
Snowflake said:
I'd call an action that was nowhere to be seen a few years ago but has now become a norm for thanking the almighty as fake and forced.

Yeah I saw how 'very common' it is elsewhere when I went through your extensive list of athletes! Also, pretty sure I follow and am exposed to more sports than you are.

Also, I'm not stopping anyone. Just pointing out the sad state of affairs and how most in our society would lap up and defend till the hilt anything that has an inkling of religion.

Anyway, the topic is such that there's no way anyone can influence someone else's opinion on it. Also, you're coming across as quite antagonized so I'll sign out. You could love the sajdah all you want, to me it'll always come across as forced
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A player can celebrate in any way they want as long as it is not offensive to anyone else. You are criticizing the player on the way he celebrates after HIS achievement. He gets to celebrate it however he wants to. He's not a politican he doesn't have to win a popularity contest. As long as what he's doing on the pitch is helping his team, he can do summersaults for all anyone cares.
 
Snowflake said:
Lol! Sorry, Doctor Sahab Can't really respond after that and 'Anyone who has a problem with Sajdah has a problem with Islam :)))
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Off course.

The left wing Muslims in their hip to look cool and different would consider doing Sajdah on the field as a "show off" but would gladly accept a couple of tumltuous somersaults as a sign of celebration.

I repeat, if Sajdah is bothering you as much as you consider it a "show off", you have issues with the very essence of Islam.

I have been through every phase of life imaginable and when you will temper down in old age, you will realize what you are laughing over wasnt a joke at all and you were not mocking me but mocking Allah.

Have a nice day ahead.
 
It is like when Christian sports people do the cross symbol with their hands. Should be no problem, doesn't obstruct anyone or delay the game, its just a celebration. People have different ways of celebrating. If someone was doing it after every run they scored then there would be case for them to stop doing that.
 
It's a sports field.

It's not a mosque or church or some holy place.

I have no problems with people doing their religious thing and thanking God in a way that is not overly show-offy. Just do your small thanks and move on. No need to make a spectacle of how pious you are.

There's a time and place for that.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Off course.

I repeat, if Sajdah is bothering you as much as you consider it a "show off", you have issues with the very essence of Islam.
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You "repeat" as if this is some grand statement or wisdom. Really, who cares?

No one.

Just keep your religious piety off the field or sports, just like you should keep your politics off it (eg., Indian army hats).
 
Am not a religious man nor do I ever like promoting religion but each to his own. If you can dance around the field after taking a wicket/century, or show some sign with the bat, whats so wrong about someone thanking his god? It's his belief, let him do as he pleases. Some of y'all make it sound like they take 30 min to thank their god. Their shejda literally takes the same amount of time as it takes a batsmen to take off his helmet, raise his bat, jump up and down, hug their team mate, etc.
 
Blistering Barnacle said:
It's a sports field.

It's not a mosque or church or some holy place.

I have no problems with people doing their religious thing and thanking God in a way that is not overly show-offy. Just do your small thanks and move on. No need to make a spectacle of how pious you are.

There's a time and place for that.
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define small thanks?
 
Blistering Barnacle said:
It's a sports field.

It's not a mosque or church or some holy place.

I have no problems with people doing their religious thing and thanking God in a way that is not overly show-offy. Just do your small thanks and move on. No need to make a spectacle of how pious you are.

There's a time and place for that.
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You are so wrong on SO MANY LEVELS.

But majorly, there is NO TIME and PLACE to thank Allah.

It can be done anytime, anywhere on any occasion because that is the essence of faith.
 
Let’s not talk about faith and thanking the Almighty.

The day before Amir was convicted of spot-fixing and taking a bribe of thousands of pounds, he was performing a sajda on the Lord’s pitch after taking 5 wickets.

What good was his sajda and what purpose did it serve other than theatrics?

Or perhaps when his forehead was on the ground, he was not thanking Allah; he was praying to not get exposed.

The sajda is more of a traditional, trademark celebration for Pakistani players now.

It became very prominent during the Inzamam captaincy era - a period which also saw rapid Islamization of the dressing room - and the younger players have simply decided to uphold the trend.

Over time, the bowlers also picked up the celebration after taking 5 wicket hauls.

I am personally not a fan of this celebration, but ultimately it does no harm. It takes a few seconds and doesn’t hurt anyone.

It is no different to how Yousuf used to cross himself when he was Youhana, and that wasn’t a problem either.

However, let’s leave faith out of it. When you have match-fixers doing sajda in the middle of their crime, it puts a damper on the intentions and the piety of the act.
 
Mamoon said:
Let’s not talk about faith and thanking the Almighty.

The day before Amir was convicted of spot-fixing and taking a bribe of thousands of pounds, he was performing a sajda on the Lord’s pitch after taking 5 wickets.

What good was his sajda and what purpose did it serve other than theatrics?

Or perhaps when his forehead was on the ground, he was not thanking Allah; he was praying to not get exposed.

The sajda is more of a traditional, trademark celebration for Pakistani players now.

It became very prominent during the Inzamam captaincy era - a period which also saw rapid Islamization of the dressing room - and the younger players have simply decided to uphold the trend.

Over time, the bowlers also picked up the celebration after taking 5 wicket hauls.

I am personally not a fan of this celebration, but ultimately it does no harm. It takes a few seconds and doesn’t hurt anyone.

It is no different to how Yousuf used to cross himself when he was Youhana, and that wasn’t a problem either.

However, let’s leave faith out of it. When you have match-fixers doing sajda in the middle of their crime, it puts a damper on the intentions and the piety of the act.
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Just because a person prays 5 times a day doesnt mean he doesnt go out and drink wine.

Leave individual acts out of this discussion and discuss Sajda as a celebration.

It serves no HARM.

What is offensive however, is, that a group of people decide to downplay the significance of Sajda because a certain Amir decided to do it before match fixing, or because as they claim it has a place, a time or it shouldnt be done as it is a "show off".

I am no better than you are and you might be better than me even if do 30 Sajdas a day.

But does that mean you are going to question the piety of a mosque goer, a Sajda doer, a beard keeper, and the list goes on.

When do you draw the line on judging others piety and questioning their faith?
 
MenInG said:
define small thanks?
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Well, for instance, someone like YK's celebration. He would look to the heavens, obviously thank God in his way, then carry on.

I just think that a humble man before God wouldn't really need to try to display to the world how much he appreciates God's help in scoring a century. If you think about it, it's quite ridiculous. As if this is such an important event - on the cricket field...when in the real world away from sports people are dying and being persecuted over religion and so on.

I mean, really? God has helped you score a century and you must now prostrate yourself before all the people to make sure you know everyone knows how much you appreciate God's help in obtaining your century.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
You are so wrong on SO MANY LEVELS.

But majorly, there is NO TIME and PLACE to thank Allah.

It can be done anytime, anywhere on any occasion because that is the essence of faith.
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No, it depends on how you are doing it. If you are an obnoxious little jerk, I will kick you out of my house....so no you can't do it anywhere, anytime.

It should be done respectfully and in the right environment.

There are a lot of freaks too who think they are doing the right thing in Islam, but are doing nothing but causing havoc.

Obviously, this is a different context, but your blanket statement is just rubbish.
 
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Blistering Barnacle said:
Well, for instance, someone like YK's celebration. He would look to the heavens, obviously thank God in his way, then carry on.

I just think that a humble man before God wouldn't really need to try to display to the world how much he appreciates God's help in scoring a century. If you think about it, it's quite ridiculous. As if this is such an important event - on the cricket field...when in the real world away from sports people are dying and being persecuted over religion and so on.

I mean, really? God has helped you score a century and you must now prostrate yourself before all the people to make sure you know everyone knows how much you appreciate God's help in obtaining your century.
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What is wrong in thanking God?

If you believe in God then you should also know what we have today is given by God. So if someone is feeling blessed by whatever milestone, let them celebrate and be happy for them.
 
Blistering Barnacle said:
That's not what I'm arguing.

Don't make it about me saying you shouldn't thank God.
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You're arguing that people are being forced to do it. Right?
Don't think forced is the right word. They remind them to do the sajda. It's encouraged that you should praise Allah. Even if you don't do it if you score a hundred in the form of a sajda it doesn't matter. There are a lot of things people in general do to not look out of order.
 
Blistering Barnacle said:
That's not what I'm arguing.

Don't make it about me saying you shouldn't thank God.
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Now watch how the usual suspects here will question the strength of your faith and say that you have a problem with Islam.

When there's no counter to an argument, bet on these people to turn the whole thing into a personal slugfest.
 
Azhar Ali did his sajda after scoring 100....

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I don’t see any harm in this.

If Messi can remember his God why can’t Muslim players remember their Allah on field after completing a personal milestone.

After all you are thanking the Lord who has given you the opportunity to perform.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
Not really. Never saw Shahid Afridi doing it ever.
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Lol. Shahid Afridi has been part of the team since well before this trend came in.

Also, as I said before, it's a gesture to gain acceptance of among your peers. Afridi doesn't need that. It's the newbies who do.
 
People need to stop being judgemental. These cricketers have the right to express themselves however they want.
 
Mamoon said:
Let’s not talk about faith and thanking the Almighty.

The day before Amir was convicted of spot-fixing and taking a bribe of thousands of pounds, he was performing a sajda on the Lord’s pitch after taking 5 wickets.

What good was his sajda and what purpose did it serve other than theatrics?

Or perhaps when his forehead was on the ground, he was not thanking Allah; he was praying to not get exposed.

The sajda is more of a traditional, trademark celebration for Pakistani players now.

It became very prominent during the Inzamam captaincy era - a period which also saw rapid Islamization of the dressing room - and the younger players have simply decided to uphold the trend.

Over time, the bowlers also picked up the celebration after taking 5 wicket hauls.

I am personally not a fan of this celebration, but ultimately it does no harm. It takes a few seconds and doesn’t hurt anyone.

It is no different to how Yousuf used to cross himself when he was Youhana, and that wasn’t a problem either.

However, let’s leave faith out of it. When you have match-fixers doing sajda in the middle of their crime, it puts a damper on the intentions and the piety of the act.
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probably the only time i have seen a sensible comment from u ... a sajida after taking a bribe to ball no-balls is worse than anything else... i seriously dont get how people can bring themselves upto the point of going for Hajj and Ummrah and on more recent, Qurbani on Eid when they knw their income is based on illegal means..

other example of Yousaf was probably the best answer to many things... Yousaf Youhanna, scoring a century and making the cross, for me was loveable to the same level as M.Yousaf scoring a century and doing a sajida. his faith is a matter between him and God his century actually is the thing that effects me ... so thts what i care about.
 
Talk about over reactions, 4 pages dedicated to sujood celebration, leave the players be everyone can express faith in their own way, who are we to judge. what i will say is Mo Salah and Mane have been celebrating like this for a few seasons at liverpool and the positive impact it has had on educating non-muslims can only be seen as a positive.
 
I do not see anything wrong with prostrating and thanking God. It doesn't harm anybody. It is actually a pretty good thing.
 
I saw this thread, and there were many interesting answers in it. My personal opinion is based on the fact that Sajdah is not allowed on muddy or impure surfaces, people constantly walk on a cricket ground, sometimes a lot of animals (i.e. dogs, cats etc) walk on it as well, which to me makes Sajdah invalid.

If you want to thank Allah you can do this anytime, You can raise your hands and make a dua, or wait for the match to end do wudhu and go and pray 2 rakah naafil. based on this I am not a big supporter of this.

Said that I also believe that the relationship between Allah and a person is a personal matter, people can guide other people but they cannot enforce their opinion on them, who knows Allah might be more pleased with them rather than us? So I leave this as a personal choice of the player, If I was playing in the Pak team, I wouldn't do it.
 
Celebrations are ment for entertainment. They are not ment to spread your love for your religion. I get that its the players right on how they celebrate. But when you have majority of the players doing it. It makes the player less entertaining.
 
Nothing wrong in it. Why are people making a big deal out of this? What is wrong in a player thanking the almighty after a milestone? People need to worry about other things for this isn't one of them.
 
Shazzam said:
Celebrations are ment for entertainment. They are not ment to spread your love for your religion. I get that its the players right on how they celebrate. But when you have majority of the players doing it. It makes the player less entertaining.
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Lol who says celebrations are meant for entertainment? So when a batsman has batted for hours for our ‘entertainment’ and is happy to have reached a milestone, he needs to do some random act to entertain us further?
 
Forum363 said:
Lol who says celebrations are meant for entertainment? So when a batsman has batted for hours for our ‘entertainment’ and is happy to have reached a milestone, he needs to do some random act to entertain us further?
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Yes cause cricket is entertainment not some war of honor. It should be viewed as entertainment. If you think otherwise than your clearly watching for wrong reasons. I bet you would be one of those who destroy there TV after one loss.
 
Forward Defensive Push said:
Nothing wrong in it. Why are people making a big deal out of this? What is wrong in a player thanking the almighty after a milestone? People need to worry about other things for this isn't one of them.
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A player can thank the almighty without having to do it in his celebrations. Religion should be kept out of sport. This is no different than those who do it for publicity. Keep entertainment as entertainment.
 
Shazzam said:
A player can thank the almighty without having to do it in his celebrations. Religion should be kept out of sport. This is no different than those who do it for publicity. Keep entertainment as entertainment.
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I think it's the player's personal choice. If you don't like it, just ignore.
 
Done for the cameras. Salman Butt did it, and his betrayal cost us a decade. You can thank Allah in your heart, this public display is done for the public.
 
Shazzam said:
Yes cause cricket is entertainment not some war of honor. It should be viewed as entertainment. If you think otherwise than your clearly watching for wrong reasons. I bet you would be one of those who destroy there TV after one loss.
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Do you understand what you are saying?

I never said that cricket wasn’t meant for entertainment. I will repeat my point which is that while the sport is for entertainment, there are aspects within, which are wholly personal. Celebrating upon reaching a milestone is one of those.

Where exactly did war of honour and smashing a tv come into the conversation?....

Even if we go by your nonsensical logic, it is a completely subjective measure and many people could argue they find a ‘bat raise followed by a sajda’ more entertaining than a simple bat raise.
 
Personally I am not a big fan of it especially after scoring a 50. Anyone remember when was the last time a Pakistani player didn’t do it? I remember Kami not doing in PSL
 
Its a personal choice but in my opinion this "sajda" on the pitch is a recent Pakistani creation and it has nothing to do with religion, I;m against bringing new things in religion and would not do this ridiculous ritual.
 
While i am not against this at all,religious or not its players choice on how they want to celebrate.
But one thing is clear alot of people here would be calling for ban if some english players does a christian cross blessing type celebration and would give lectures about how anything religion shudnt be around the game.
 
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H_shah said:
While i am not against this at all,religious or not its players choice on how they want to celebrate.
But one thing is clear alot of people here would be calling for ban if some english players does a christian cross blessing type celebration and would give lectures about how anything religion shudnt be around the game.
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Mohammad yousaf used to do it and did we oppose it and call for a ban on it?

So what's your point?
 
Show immense gratitude after winning the game not after your personal milestone
 
sshakir411 said:
Sajdah is a gesture of immense thanks to the lord. It was started by Salman Butt after he scored his first hundred in the India vs PAK bcci jubilee game. It later become Mohammad yousufs trademark after he converted.

I honestly think it’s over done and our players should not be celebrating a hundred or a fifer with a sajdah. If they think a sajdah is necessary, they can do it after the game.
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I remember Amir Sohail and Rameez Raja performing the sajdah back in 1992 when Pakistan won the world cup final in Melbourne.
 
I don’t know why but it feels like in Pakistani team it’s forced. Kami is the only batsmen in Pakistan who doesn’t do it after scoring hundreds in PSL and his brother celebrates even a 50 like he has won the WC
 
minamino said:
I don’t know why but it feels like in Pakistani team it’s forced. Kami is the only batsmen in Pakistan who doesn’t do it after scoring hundreds in PSL and his brother celebrates even a 50 like he has won the WC
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Afridi didn't do it too.
It's seen as a polite thing to do. Like how you say thank you or please. These two words are usually forced as well and people will get offended if you don't say it because they're seen as the polite thing to do. Likewise, doing a sajda is seen as a way to thank God hence it's seen as a necessary thing to do after you score a 100
 
I personally don't have any problem with it.
It doesn't harm anybody, and doesn't bring the game into disrepute either.

It is not something that you would only associate with cricket. Some players from other sports also thank the Almighty during their celebrations. Lionel Messi crosses himself everytime after scoring a goal. It should not be a problem for players to celebrate according to their faith. At the end of the day, it represents a personal feeling that a person has towards the Creator.

Having said that, it becomes a little OTT when players like Umar Akmal start doing it after scoring a 50. It speaks volume about the mediocrity of some players when they start jumping around and performing the Sajdah after scoring a 50.
 
Forum363 said:
Do you understand what you are saying?

I never said that cricket wasn’t meant for entertainment. I will repeat my point which is that while the sport is for entertainment, there are aspects within, which are wholly personal. Celebrating upon reaching a milestone is one of those.

Where exactly did war of honour and smashing a tv come into the conversation?....

Even if we go by your nonsensical logic, it is a completely subjective measure and many people could argue they find a ‘bat raise followed by a sajda’ more entertaining than a simple bat raise.
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Yeah I know exactly what I am saying. And I am getting the same arguments as yours. So yours is not that much different than others.

Religion is a personal matter. How a player celebrates it is there own choice however every player is celebrating it the same. Since this is a entertainment platform I can critique it however I want. Some people are making it sound like this is done for some religious ritual which is why it can’t be hated. Well I am here to tell them that this cricket not some war zone so despite it being a players choice it does not mean its good for viewership.

You originally played down the entertainment aspect of a celebration hence why I brought up the point of you being one of those who would break TV. Cause cricket is entertainment and celebrations like these should be done to entertain people. Not to send some message to there maker. That can be done in there own personal time.
 
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The problem is when you see every player doing it and hear all of them saying the exact same words during the post-match presentations. In relation to the latter, we are used to hearing "I want to say thank you to my dear Allah", from nearly every player.

It sounds robotic and from the viewers perspective, it looks like they are made to follow a script, but we know they do it to gain acceptance from our religious fanatic society.

Then we wonder why our plays lack the personality and swagger like the teams that had played up until 2003 WC.

After this tournament, Inzy took over as captain of the side and subsequently used his period of leadership to Islamise the Pakistan cricket team.

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] and [MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] make very good points about Amir and Salman Butt (respectively). When you see them doing the Sajda, inevitably people (be it Muslim and non-Muslim) will question the sincerity of the act.
 
It quite funny to see how the very points that have been extensively countered on the previous pages of this very thread (Which other Pakistani cricketers doesn't do the Sajda? Is it exclusively a Pakistani thing?) are now being regurgitated. At least read up on the thread before posting.

Also [MENTION=147314]topspin[/MENTION], insinuating that the the lack of 'swagger' and personality is in direct correlation to our players being more 'Islamise[d]' is ridiculously absurd.

First of all, not all new trends are bad. Today, many of the ex-cricketers from the 80s don't have beards, while quite a few of the 2000s era do. Now whatever may be intentions of either or how strong faith each had, that's not for us to judge. What we do see is that the cricketers of the 2000s era have maintained beards, which is a Sunnah and hence, a good thing. Would you argue otherwise?

Also, I don't understand that "if you get a promotion, do you do a Sajda in the cubicle?" argument that I saw earlier. When you do get a promotion, do you do that David Warner jump in the air, scream obscenities like Kohli of old or the chainsaw of Brett Lee? No. Thus, that is false analogy.

If players can do whatever they like when they have their moment in the sun, then why is it appropriate for us to question the intention of someone who just opts to do a humble Sajda. It's blatantly hypocritical.
 
Is doing one Sajda out of nowhere a thing in Islam historically?

I always thought it was only done during prayer as part of the process.

The first time I saw people doing random Sajda was the Pakistan cricket team.

I have nothing against it personally, just curious.
 
Who cares as long as they perform. Football regularly do the cross sign on their chests too. Messi included.
 
Who says pakistani players didnt do sajda in the 80s and 90s?
The most famous one would be javed miandad and co doing a sajda after winning the world cup.
 
THe only time I find it annoying is when the batsman gets out in the first over after doing a sajda on reaching milestone. But I feel the same way if they do any extravagant celebration so it is nothing personal against sajda.
 
minamino said:
Personally I am not a big fan of it especially after scoring a 50. Anyone remember when was the last time a Pakistani player didn’t do it? I remember Kami not doing in PSL
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Afridi never used to do it - Inzimam hardly ever did it - Misbah didnt do it - younis was not consistent. I dont think fakhar does it.
 
Pakhs said:
Afridi never used to do it - Inzimam hardly ever did it - Misbah didnt do it - younis was not consistent. I dont think fakhar does it.
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Afridi never used to do it because he hardly ever scored a century in this era
 
minamino said:
Afridi never used to do it because he hardly ever scored a century in this era
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Point is Yosuf started the tradition in my book and he was scoring a lot of 100s at that time so people started following him. And now it kind of become a trend.. specially in the current players.
 
Overt religious gestures are obnoxious and attention seeking unless in a place of worship.

When you are civilized you become neutral and have sensibilities about what is acceptable in public and what is best left in private.
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
Overt religious gestures are obnoxious and attention seeking unless in a place of worship.

When you are civilized you become neutral and have sensibilities about what is acceptable in public and what is best left in private.
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So now doing a Sujdah is attention seeking?
Many players used to kiss the floor after scoring a century were they attention seeking too?
 
My problem with it is that alot of batsmen seem to lose concentration after doing it thinking job done. I would say sajda fine but we need to win game. Then you can Sajda no problem on pitch ground etc! Sajda got the first century etc then after that only if u win the match!!
 
Captain caveman said:
Who says pakistani players didnt do sajda in the 80s and 90s?
The most famous one would be javed miandad and co doing a sajda after winning the world cup.
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I think there is a difference in doing it when you've won the effin WORLD CUP as opposed to doing it after scoring a fifty. Though, other than Babar, scoring a 50 for the current sorry lot must feel like winning a WC.
 
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