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He is going to be much better in tests than in t20s.Started really well, but till the end, he showed his inexperience. Pace is not gonna take you anywhere if you don't have awareness to use it properly. Anyway, still a great talent that needs proper guidance.
Maybe he's injuredWhy he vanished from all forms of cricket???
He borrowed a cap from someone , by mistake , with # 804 embroided on it.Why he vanished from all forms of cricket???
Really???He borrowed a cap from someone , by mistake , with # 804 embroided on it.
Zeeshan Zameer ?It really is criminal how we haven’t nurtured some of our pacers over the years. Nearly every U19 tournament, we see a lot of promising fast bowlers. We could have a battery of them. And it doesn’t matter if they are age fudgers - they’re still prob no more than 21-22.
Where is Zeeshan?
Some of the others (aside Ali Raza) from yesterday looked like they had potential too. The leftie has good fundamentals, of course he needs work, but that’s the whole point of nurturing them
100% potential to become a consistent 150+ bowler. He should be treated like an asset alreadyThe positive thing I noted about Ali Raza in the ongoing u19 WC is that he has gained weight and height. This is very good to see the lad putting in the hardwork beyond the field. I hope he can put some more hardwork in his general fielding as it was a notch below the rest of his teammates in the ongoing tournament.
He has the tools to succeed but success will only come with hardwork.
Mohammed Zeeshan - @Omer2002 has just provided an updateZeeshan Zameer ?
Didn’t see his fielding - what’s his arm like? Fast bowlers must have bullet arms. No Naseem style fairy throwsThe positive thing I noted about Ali Raza in the ongoing u19 WC is that he has gained weight and height. This is very good to see the lad putting in the hardwork beyond the field. I hope he can put some more hardwork in his general fielding as it was a notch below the rest of his teammates in the ongoing tournament.
He has the tools to succeed but success will only come with hardwork.
He is not a soft thrower but equally not a Mohammad Wasim or Salman Butt type rocket arm either.Didn’t see his fielding - what’s his arm like? Fast bowlers must have bullet arms. No Naseem style fairy throws
That’s a good start. And btw Salman Butt? Don’t ever remember him having a rocket arm?He is not a soft thrower but equally not a Mohammad Wasim or Salman Butt type rocket arm either.
Yep like him or hate him but he was a very good outfielder and a very strong arm something that is usually forgotten.That’s a good start. And btw Salman Butt? Don’t ever remember him having a rocket arm?
Fair play - never noticedYep like him or hate him but he was a very good outfielder and a very strong arm something that is usually forgotten.
Yeah I think he also played Qaid E Azam if I remember correctly.Mohammed Zeeshan - @Omer2002 has just provided an update
He needs to learn how to move the ball otherwise he will prove to be M.Sami , Rauf and Wahab Riaz type bowler and he is not even that pacy.Very good bowler.... I think playing QEA will polish him more... Should play 1 more season before selectors even think about drafting him into the national side
Aah yes “he’s not ready”!Very good bowler.... I think playing QEA will polish him more... Should play 1 more season before selectors even think about drafting him into the national side
He shouldn't be given new ball in the morning if Pak elects to bowl first because he can't exploit the moisture on the pitch and he can't get the zip off the surface due to pitch dampness , He should be bowling after 10 overs when the pitch settles down and become a bit harder , he doesn't get new ball movement anyways so it's better to save him after the initial burst from Subhan and Seyam who both can get early movement with the new ball.
He never used to swing the ball even in PJL but does used to get slight seam movement if the pitch is hard and baked properly but he is not getting it here under damp conditions and moisture so he better bowl at the time when the sun has its effect on the pitch.A very valid & correct observation.
He was swinging the ball a lot in his PJL days but something has happened to him and now he's gun barrel straight. In conditions where the ball is hooping around for others, he can't swing it & the seam movement just isn't there.
Maybe he needs to work on his wrist position or something.
Get out Mhatre!This guy is surely talented and can pick wickets also.... PCB should keep him safe from useless leagues.
Who’s number 19?That was the biggest wicket of the final... Surya was looking in great touch
It was number 10...Our captain...farhan yousaf..Who’s number 19?
My man ran to Vaibhav and gave him a send off for the ages!
Captain Bhangre da will be happy for sure!It was number 10...Our captain...farhan yousaf..
He mentioned in the interview that he is working with the coaches around his fielding which is good he recognises that he must improve.He need to work on his fielding.... giving free runs and dropping catches for fun
He rightly proved his mettle today. ended with figures of 4/42 vs India U19All eyes on Raza for Sunday.
Nah buddy! 2 early. You want another Rauf (the tape ball cricketer) who goes missing when phainta is on. He needs to get baked in the domestics until ready. But, knowing PCB, you never know if he will even be playing cricket in the future.he’s too quick for these kids. Let’s get him in the main team. I don’t care whoever says “he not ready”
whats wrong with the seam. He has a natural wobble and that's really deadly these days.I hope we dont end up with another what could have been with Raza. As Sooravanshi is a talent for Ind, this young man has just as much potential. His Pace is good, seam is poor and thats where the effort has to go in. He has stopped jumping out, something I pointed out a couple of years ago, and that is a positive sign that he is aware of the issues.
Wobble seam isn't a recipe for success on most wickets. Look at the Asheswhats wrong with the seam. He has a natural wobble and that's really deadly these days.
Starc got a lot of wickets wobbling it. Cummins wobbles it. What am I missing.Wobble seam isn't a recipe for success on most wickets. Look at the Ashes
Bro, Rauf was just a tape ball cricketer. He had pace but literally zero polish. Even now his run up and action are ungainly, he still falls over every ball. Because of this it’s very hard for him to adjust his lengths when he’s going for a few. He doesn’t even have a proper stock ball to go back to.Nah buddy! 2 early. You want another Rauf (the tape ball cricketer) who goes missing when phainta is on. He needs to get baked in the domestics until ready. But, knowing PCB, you never know if he will even be playing cricket in the future.
Ali Raza is definitely not as talented as Naseem Shah or M.Amir when they first burst in to the scene, however he is few mph quicker than them at the similar age.No distinct skills as such. At the international level, guys like Tim David make him regret why he chose cricket as a profession. Amir at a young age distinctly moved the ball. Ali Raza due to scoreboard pressure got some wickets. When he had to bowl first he was hardly effective.
At this point he doesn't have a decent stock ball. Plus his arms and limbs going all over. Pretty ungainly action. Your first change bowler looks alright though.Ali Raza is definitely not as talented as Naseem Shah or M.Amir when they first burst in to the scene, however he is few mph quicker than them at the similar age.
County cricket would definitely help. If he can get picked up by a county, it should accelerate the development of the skills needed to succeed at the top level. Until then, continuing in List A cricket while tightening his seam position makes far more sense.Bro, Rauf was just a tape ball cricketer. He had pace but literally zero polish. Even now his run up and action are ungainly, he still falls over every ball. Because of this it’s very hard for him to adjust his lengths when he’s going for a few. He doesn’t even have a proper stock ball to go back to.
Ali Raza by contrast has been touted at a young age, he’s played 50 over cricket, 20 over cricket, a bit of red ball cricket already where he’s performed well. He’s also played high pressure u19 tournaments. He has a smooth run up and a good action. Sure he has a bit to learn, his action will improve over time and in an ideal world he prob should have more first class games under his belt. But I am very sceptical of our red ball setup, the standard of cricket and pitches. All I see coming out of our first class structure are trundlers. The nature of our first class cricket makes them this way, it beats them down and they only get slower and slower.
Maybe if he can get a couple of seasons of county cricket, it would help.
Moreover, I’m sick of our ‘mare huwe’ bowlers on the international scene. They are just dead and bowling like fairies. It’s seriously embarassing.
I’m not saying pick him for every game, but there is no harm giving him some t20 and ODI games against the weaker teams but have him part of the setup.
He ain't gonna get picked up by a county if he isn't playing for Pakistan. They won't waste overseas spot on a rookie.County cricket would definitely help. If he can get picked up by a county, it should accelerate the development of the skills needed to succeed at the top level. Until then, continuing in List A cricket while tightening his seam position makes far more sense.
I seriously doubt he would be picked right now to represent Pakistan in any format. He’s clearly not ready for T20s; rushing him there would do more harm than good - a few phainta will ruin his confidence!
He ain't gonna get picked up by a county if he isn't playing for Pakistan. They won't waste overseas spot on a rookie.
It's up to us to manage him.
I don't think there is major harm in an odd t20i here and there if PCB believe he will be one for the future.
Action is pretty decentAt this point he doesn't have a decent stock ball. Plus his arms and limbs going all over. Pretty ungainly action. Your first change bowler looks alright though.
Again another simplistic take. Every time we get a fast bowler, we get the usual arm chair critics talking about wahab, sami and Rauf.He is been with the setup for more than 3 years now and yet he can't move the ball around , he will become another M.Sami or Wahab Riaz if he never learns and he is not that pacy like them either.
They must send him to county or even club cricket in England to sort his basic right.
Don’t know what that dude is talking about “arms flaying all over the place”. He has a very consistent action. Can it be improved? yes, but you can’t have the finished product immediately. Many bowlers refine their actions after they’ve started international cricket.Action is pretty decent
His basic issue is seam position and control
He has pace though but not remotely as talented as Young Amir
Your comment is referring to an Indian - Ask the troll if he can mention a bowler at this stage with a better (smoother) action.Don’t know what that dude is talking about “arms flaying all over the place”. He has a very consistent action. Can it be improved? yes, but you can’t have the finished product immediately. Many bowlers refine their actions after they’ve started international cricket.
Even Amir bro - he hardly swung the ball in the 2009 CT. Yes, within a year he was bowling bananas in England, but the conditions helped too.