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Most laughable thing I’ve heard.

If I were you, I would be more worried about you obvious pro-Babar agenda. You’ve still failed to explain why you conveniently skipped the tournaments where Babar underperformed. Was it because his disastrous 2022 WT20 showing embarrassed you just as much as it did him?

You basically exposed your agenda for everyone to see.

I guess you thought we had forgotten that Babar averaged under 20 with a strike rate of less than run a ball in the 2022 WT20. I’m not so concerned with the average because all players can lose form but that strike rate is unforgivable and should’ve led to his retirement in the shortest format. I suspect this is why you were selective with the stats you chose to disclose.

You must’ve started watching cricket in 2024.

I have watched YK and Babar closely throughout their careers for Pakistan, so once again, you're wrong.
 
Younis should not even be mentioned in the same breath as Babar in limited overs as a batsman. Babar is ranked among the best in the world. Younis probably wasn’t even top 20 of his time and that’s being generous.

It’s misguided and frankly ignorant to judge a 2000s batter by today’s strike rate standards, given how dramatically white ball cricket has evolved since then. By that flawed logic, Babar would appear to be superior to Inzamam simply because he has more hundreds, a higher average and a better strike rate in ODIs.

Babar may look technically polished against pace and aesthetically pleasing in the nets, much like how commentators once raved about Asad Shafiq’s elegance in practice. But none of that counts if you can’t deliver against full strength attacks from the top five sides (Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, India, England). That’s why Babar has so few truly standout white ball innings because he always fails to deliver with impact.

Even the ODI ton against New Zealand during the run chase in the 2019 World Cup was a 7 out of 10 performance. The Pakistan bowlers did 70-80% of the work by restricting to NZ to 237. Babar's hundred was scored at a strike rate of less than 80 and as a result, it dragged the chase to the final over. You might be thinking, why does that matter? Well Pakistan fell short of qualifying for the Semis due to net run rate. There were no demons in the pitch, so Pakistan should've attempted to chase this inside 40-42 overs.

In Pakistan’s 2000s setup, Babar would have been exposed. The spinners of that era would have chewed him up, and the toxic, chaotic environment demanded mental toughness he simply doesn’t possess. Back then, bilaterals, triangular series and Sharjah Cups were contested by full strength sides, unlike today’s diluted attacks. Pakistan’s insistence on fielding their best XI has allowed Babar to pad his stats against weaker opposition.

Outside of his century against New Zealand in the 2019 WC, he’s yet to deliver a truly defining white ball innings. Younis Khan, on the other hand has produced multiple standout knocks. I have made this point on numerous occasions in recent days to your friends, Raja Isthiaq and Gazza, but they do not want to contest this because they know they would be given a good hiding if they were to take it up with me.

YK batted at 3 and played the anchor role well during the 2000s to help the likes of Inzamam and MoYo and the lower order players flourish. This is why I say you cannot evaluate a 2000s batter by modern strike rate standards.

Mamoon is also of the opinion that YK was competent ODI player but in his view he believes he should have batted lower down the order, as his best performances came at 6, where he averaged 40+ with a strike rate of just over 90.

Another reason why YK was a bigger white ball asset is because his captaincy was instrumental to Pakistan's only WT20 triumph. In that tournament, he averaged well over 50 with the bat and scored his runs at a strike rate of 140, which was the same as Afridi's. Out of the top 10 run scorers in that competition, only Dilshan, Kevin Pietersen and AB de Villiers were scoring their runs quicker than them.

I gave up on Babar a long time ago and I have no regrets. He’s mentally fragile, selfish and unwilling to improve. His lack of cricketing intelligence was plain to see in his captaincy, so much so that even Peshawar Zalmi in the PSL couldn’t rely on him to make decisions without leaning on Darren Sammy.

Ultimately, Younis’ highs eclipse Babar’s, while Babar’s lows sink lower than Younis’. Babar's inflated stats come from feasting on second string attacks. On paper, he may have surpassed Inzamam, as he's achieved a higher average, strike rate and more ODI tons, but anyone who truly watched Inzamam knows that he wipes the floor with Babar.

To summarise: Younis Khan wasn’t flawless, I wanted him gone after the 2011 World Cup, and ideally he should have retired from white ball cricket after the 2009 WT20. But overall, he was a far greater white-ball asset than Babar because:
  • He performed the anchor role well for Pakistan in the 2000s
  • He produced more standout innings
  • His captaincy was instrumental to Pakistan’s only WT20 triumph (the less said about Babar's captaincy, the better)
 
Keep crying.... Keep derailing the thread with useless talk and keep getting your posts removed now

No more irrelvant stuff
 
YK is the greatest Pakistani to play Test cricket. Babar is the greatest Pakistan to play limited-over cricket. Both GOATs. End of story.
No disrespect, but try saying that to those who actually watched and followed the likes of Saeed Anwar and Inzamam play in ODI cricket. And before bringing up stats, always remember the difference between the 1 ball per innings era and 2 new ball per innings era in ODI cricket. Add to that, how teams used to play their full strength teams in bilaterals in the 1 ball per innings era.​
 
No disrespect, but try saying that to those who actually watched and followed the likes of Saeed Anwar and Inzamam play in ODI cricket. And before bringing up stats, always remember the difference between the 1 ball per innings era and 2 new ball per innings era in ODI cricket. Add to that, how teams used to play their full strength teams in bilaterals in the 1 ball per innings era.​
I'll be the first one to admit that Inzamam was a complete and utter disaster in World Cups and overall in ICC Tournaments and in Tournament Finals, but it's not like Babar has been much better.
 
No disrespect, but try saying that to those who actually watched and followed the likes of Saeed Anwar and Inzamam play in ODI cricket. And before bringing up stats, always remember the difference between the 1 ball per innings era and 2 new ball per innings era in ODI cricket. Add to that, how teams used to play their full strength teams in bilaterals in the 1 ball per innings era.​

Hit the nail on the head.
 
No disrespect, but try saying that to those who actually watched and followed the likes of Saeed Anwar and Inzamam play in ODI cricket. And before bringing up stats, always remember the difference between the 1 ball per innings era and 2 new ball per innings era in ODI cricket. Add to that, how teams used to play their full strength teams in bilaterals in the 1 ball per innings era.​
I have seen them both play, I know the changes in rules too but I still believe what I said.
 
I'll be the first one to admit that Inzamam was a complete and utter disaster in World Cups and overall in ICC Tournaments and in Tournament Finals, but it's not like Babar has been much better.
The most number of runs in one edition of ODI WC by Pakistani = Babar Azam
He also was top run scorer across all the teams in T20i WC 2021.
 
YK is the greatest Pakistani to play Test cricket. Babar is the greatest Pakistan to play limited-over cricket. Both GOATs. End of story.
A sweeping statement without facts.

First, it is not wise to compare players from different eras.

2nd, in the last 40 years, I dunno if ANY Pak player made a bigger ODI contribution in winning games/tournaments as Wasim Akram did, despite facts/conspiracies about his match fixings. So how Babar is dragged as a "greatest Pakistani" to play ODI? This is a total nonsense.

Also, Younis Khan being the greatest Pakistan Test bat be argued vs the list of Hanif Mohammad, Zaheer Abbas, Majid Khan, Javed Miandad, Saeed Anwar, and some more. You just wanted to drag Babar into it with an agenda.
 
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