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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Jasprit Bumrah is the best fast-bowler in the world right now

TheSultan said:
Nonsense propaganda again. I’ve addressed the Waqar stuff many times. Search my posts and respond, I don’t have time to educate kids over and over again.

And wasim clocked 94mph in 1996 vs England. He bowled a spell at the Oval in 1996 with Waqar that Alec Stewart described was the quickest thing he ever faced.

All you guys do is look up random stats without context. I watched both of them live in many games as I also watched Akhtar and Lee live.

Waqar was on a par with both Akhtar and Lee in 1991. Yes he lost pace in 1992 after his first back injury, but not by much.

Wasim sometimes was quicker than anything. But whereas the likes of Waqar, Akhtar and Lee steamed in every ball, Wasim chose his moments.

Waqar also after 96 himself said his body can’t take turning up the pace every ball and every spell and he was going to go hard sparingly after that.
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I wish I were a kid sometimes too, but got a life sp can't be bothered to correct ta rando internet strong guy.

Thanks for confirming that there is no evidence backing Akram as a speed merchant. He was like Bumrah. Could crank it up when required but preferred efficiency over raw pace.

I agree with you that Waqar was someone like Lee - but without the clutch performance.
 
riddu said:
he clearly throws the ball with slant angle more than allowed ... hope any umpire stops him bowling ..he doesnt deserve these wickets
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I am distinctly reminded of old Indian fans who used to take refuge in "but Shoain is a chucker" after getting thier behinds handed over by Akthar and Co back in the 90s till 2003.
 
This thread is not about Wasim and Waqar...STay on topic or do not derail the thread, Please.
 
PakFan2010 said:
During the 2015–16 Vijay Hazare Trophy, after the first two matches, the umpires called him for throwing and raised objections about his bowling action. The issue was resolved when the team management protested against it. Gujarat won the trophy, with Bumrah taking a five-wicket haul in the final against Delhi.
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Domestic match so ICC cannot check Bumrah was found to have hyperextension.

This was before he made his international debut. He has played international cricket for 8 years. Various experts have analyzed his action and except random posters on PP, no one has questioned his action.
 
TheSultan said:
you probably never watched Waqar or Wasim in their prime.

Waqar was 155+ 1990-91, 150+ 1992-94, even in 2001 was cranking it up to 146-147 when he wanted to.

Wasim was 150+ up to 1996 when he wanted and needed to. Just because he didn’t need to, doesn’t mean he didn’t full stop.
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Waqar Younis wasn't a 155 plus bowler.

His fastest ever delivery was recorded at 153kph in SA in 1993. He was also measured at 152kph in 1996 in England. I had also watched him bowl in NZ in early 90s and clock 150.

But he wasn't clocking 155 plus.

Wasim Akram was never clocked at 150. Never ever. And he spent a lot of time bowling in England where unofficial speed guns were used many times.
 
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Each delivery he bowls, you feel he will get the batsman out, something our overrated superstars never give you the feeling of.

Always a treat to watch him bowl. World Class Bowler :14:
 
Bumrah is bumrah.... People on this forum have an habit of putting players against other players and then most of their posts are around the compared player does not have.

What we should be marvelling is the fact that India, of all the countries, produced a player of his acumen.

The impact Bumrah has can only be compared to Sachin. One revolutionized the way the masses of India look at Batting and the other is changing the mindset of Indians around bowling.

There are budding bowlers in India who are watching Bumrah bowl and thinking- they too can be world class...

That's the real impact, not these superficial 1v1 that people are so intrested in.
 
IndoorCricket said:
People will start comparing this fella with other legends. How can you not discuss and compare with other legends of the game?
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People have started comparing wasim and waqar.

This thread is not about them. Center of attention should be bumrah.
 
Croma said:
Summary of Bumrah's performances in knockout games of ICC trophies:
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ICC World Twenty20 (T20 World Cup) 2016​

  • Semi-final vs. West Indies (March 31, 2016):
    • Bowling Figures: 4 overs, 42 runs, 1 wicket​

ICC Champions Trophy 2017​

  • Semi-final vs. Bangladesh (June 15, 2017):
    • Bowling Figures: 8 overs, 39 runs, 2 wickets​
  • Final vs. Pakistan (June 18, 2017):
    • Bowling Figures: 9 overs, 68 runs, 0 wickets​

ICC Cricket World Cup 2019​

  • Semi-final vs. New Zealand (July 9-10, 2019):
    • Bowling Figures: 10 overs, 39 runs, 1 wicket​

ICC Men's T20 World Cup 2021​

India did not reach the knockout stage, so no relevant matches.​

ICC Men's T20 World Cup 2022​

  • Semi-final vs. England (November 10, 2022):
    • Bumrah did not play in this tournament due to injury.​

ICC World Test Championship Final 2019-2021​

  • Final vs. New Zealand (June 18-23, 2021):
    • Bowling Figures (First Innings): 26 overs, 57 runs, 0 wickets​
    • Bowling Figures (Second Innings): 24 overs, 35 runs, 0 wickets​

ICC World Test Championship Final 2021-2023​

  • Final vs. Australia (June 7-11, 2023):
    • Bumrah did not play in this final due to injury.​

ICC ODI World Cup 2023​

  • Semi-final vs. New Zealand (November 15, 2023):
    • Bowling Figures: 10 overs, 45 runs, 1 wicket
  • Final vs. Australia (November 19, 2023):
    • Bowling Figures: 10 overs, 40 runs, 2 wickets
Bumrah has had a mix of performances in knockout games, with some effective spells, particularly in the 2017 Champions Trophy semi-final against Bangladesh, and less impactful ones, notably in the 2017 Champions Trophy final and the 2021 World Test Championship final.


(Quote this post if anyone want to highlight Bumrah's ICC knockout performances)
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Quoting this post for those who are saying Bumrah doesn't do well in important matches.

Add to this yesterday's 3-12 in 2.4 overs in a crunch game where remaining pace bowlers (of both sides combined) went for 151 runs in 15 overs.

He's a world apart from other bowlers in thr globe right now.
 
Sir Alex said:
Quoting this post for those who are saying Bumrah doesn't do well in important matches.

Add to this yesterday's 3-12 in 2.4 overs in a crunch game where remaining pace bowlers (of both sides combined) went for 151 runs in 15 overs.

He's a world apart from other bowlers in thr globe right now.
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Yes I will do that :afridi
 
Since McGrath retired I don't think any bowler has had so much of impact on all three versions of the game. He's feared in all 3 versions and respected.

Even the great Steyn was not this good in white ball cricket. This guy is just built differently.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Waqar Younis wasn't a 155 plus bowler.

His fastest ever delivery was recorded at 153kph in SA in 1993. He was also measured at 152kph in 1996 in England. I had also watched him bowl in NZ in early 90s and clock 150.

But he wasn't clocking 155 plus.

Wasim Akram was never clocked at 150. Never ever. And he spent a lot of time bowling in England where unofficial speed guns were used many times.
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@BouncerGuy - I take your comment about not derailing the thread, but I can’t let this pass without a quick response:

You’ve just proved Waqar was 155+ in 1990-91. If he clocked 153 in 1993 which was after his first back injury, there is no doubt he was 155+ before that. I mean there is no logic to say otherwise. And seriously you had to watch him live in 1991 to understand just how quick he was.

Wasim had clocked 94mph in England and if you doubt how quick Wasim was just ask the batsmen. He was even clocking 87mph in the 2003 world cup. He was more than capable of 150+ between 1989-1996. But yes, he didn’t need it, and very rarely cranked it up that high.

Wasim was an 80% bowler. Majority of the time he would operate at 80% pace and then he would crank up to 100% rarely and that just added to his overall unplayability because the batsman had no clue about his pace and if you add that to the no clue which way the ball was going, they didn’t have a chance.
 
Star India pacer Jasprit Bumrah became the second-highest wicket-taker for the Men in Blue in a single edition of the T20 World Cup. Bumrah displayed a stupendous performance against England in the semi-final match of the T20 World Cup 2024. Bumrah achieved the milestone after picking up two wickets against Jos Buttler's side. In the ongoing marquee event, Bumrah has 13 wickets for Team India. Meanwhile, India left-arm pacer Arshdeep Singh is the highest wicket-taker for the Men in Blue in a single edition of the T20 World Cup. Against the Three Lions on Thursday, Arshdeep failed to pick any wickets in his two-over spells. The 25-year-old has 15 wickets in the ongoing T20 World Cup 2024.

Former India cricketer RP Singh holds the third place in the chart after he bagged 12 wickets in the 2007 T20 World Cup.
 
He is deadly accurate and hardly gives away any lose balls. Whenever i see him bowl, i remembers Mcgrath.
I think Indian management has used him quite well otherwise he would have lost his shine early in his career. They do not played him in every xyz matches. He mostly played his cricket in meaningful matches and done extremely well for india. A truly impactful player for India.
 
kron said:
Wow? That's insane lol. Bumrah is a special bowler. He deserves a cup tbh. Champion bowler but remember odi wc will always be >> t20 wc
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Yes but T20 WC is also important. 2007 T20 WC gave so much confidence to that young Captain Dhoni that he became a world beater. If India wins this WC tomorrow, it will be a huge monkey off the back. India is already almost unbeatable in all forms of cricket with the best win/loss ratio, added confidence will make them invincible. So be patient. India will win the next ODI world cup too.
 
As some posters have noted, Mcgrath was equally hard to hit in all formats due to accuracy and very sucessful in bowling gun spells in longer formats to change the match in all venues.
 
Buffet said:
As some posters have noted, Mcgrath was equally hard to hit in all formats due to accuracy and very sucessful in bowling gun spells in longer formats to change the match in all venues.
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I feel bumrah is better than steyn. I think he is more complete. This guy is truly special.

As good as steyn was, he was not ad complete in all formats.

Even if you take tests alone, bumrah is every bit as good as him. All formats it's not even a contest.
 
PakFan2010 said:
De Kock will take Bumrah to the cleaners in the final.
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Tbf de kock has been bad vs bumrah. So has buttler.
Root as well in general.

2 guys have done well vs bumrah. One being warner in LOI.
tom Latham is the other one. Kane to some extent as well.
 
kron said:
I feel bumrah is better than steyn. I think he is more complete. This guy is truly special.

As good as steyn was, he was not ad complete in all formats.

Even if you take tests alone, bumrah is every bit as good as him. All formats it's not even a contest.
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You have to take the full career otherwise yes, based on performance so far Bumrah is in leagues of Marshall/Mcgrath/Steyn in test. McGrath was the last one who bowled so many match changing spells playing away against good teams in test and be equally effective in shorter formats.

In ODI/T20, no need to discuss. He is probbaly the best in history and if not best then clearly among the top 3-4. Simple test is his ER vs peers and average combination. No bowler had that kind of gap vs their peers in history. Steyn was clearly not close to top 3-4 bowlers in ODI in entire history.

But to say over all pecking order, you got to wait till career is finished when comparing top players.
 
kron said:
Tbf de kock has been bad vs bumrah. So has buttler.
Root as well in general.

2 guys have done well vs bumrah. One being warner in LOI.
tom Latham is the other one. Kane to some extent as well.
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De kock is a huge choker unlike Miller who's a true clutch player
 
TheSultan said:
@BouncerGuy - I take your comment about not derailing the thread, but I can’t let this pass without a quick response:

You’ve just proved Waqar was 155+ in 1990-91. If he clocked 153 in 1993 which was after his first back injury, there is no doubt he was 155+ before that. I mean there is no logic to say otherwise. And seriously you had to watch him live in 1991 to understand just how quick he was.

Wasim had clocked 94mph in England and if you doubt how quick Wasim was just ask the batsmen. He was even clocking 87mph in the 2003 world cup. He was more than capable of 150+ between 1989-1996. But yes, he didn’t need it, and very rarely cranked it up that high.

Wasim was an 80% bowler. Majority of the time he would operate at 80% pace and then he would crank up to 100% rarely and that just added to his overall unplayability because the batsman had no clue about his pace and if you add that to the no clue which way the ball was going, they didn’t have a chance.
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Can you prove that Waqar Younis lost pace after his back injury?

Many bowlers suffer stress fracture at a early stage, doesn't mean that they lose pace.

Please provide the reference for Wasim bowling at 94mph.

I am talking clocked speeds here. Not eye speed guns.
 
TheSultan said:
you probably never watched Waqar or Wasim in their prime.

Waqar was 155+ 1990-91, 150+ 1992-94, even in 2001 was cranking it up to 146-147 when he wanted to.

Wasim was 150+ up to 1996 when he wanted and needed to. Just because he didn’t need to, doesn’t mean he didn’t full stop.
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Lol Waqar 155+, Wasim 150+ and what else? Yeah of course there's zero evidence to back it up!!
 
Buffet said:
As some posters have noted, Mcgrath was equally hard to hit in all formats due to accuracy and very sucessful in bowling gun spells in longer formats to change the match in all venues.
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Mcgrath has 3 consecutive ODI Word Cup wins.

What has Bumrah got to show for his accuracy?
 
Technics 1210 said:
I asked about Bumrah since this thread is about Bumrah.

Basically Bumrah has sod all to show for his accuracy.

Never have I seen such an insecure Indian fan.
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Because your logic makes no sense as if Mcgrath alone won them 3 WCs.
They had an ATG lineup for 3 Wcs.

It’s like saying why Malcolm Marshall has no wc.
 
JaDed said:
Because your logic makes no sense as if Mcgrath alone won them 3 WCs.
They had an ATG lineup for 3 Wcs.

It’s like saying why Malcolm Marshall has no wc.
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I responded to who was the one who made the Mcgrath vs Bumrah accuracy comparison.
 
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Technics 1210 said:
I responded to Buffet who was the one who made the Mcgrath vs Bumrah accuracy comparison.
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Aus was better team they won.
As i have already said in a thread before 2003 hurt way more and seemed like yesterday.

Malcolm Marshall also had accuracy and speed and no wc.
 
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JaDed said:
Lol I’m not a teen to be emotional wreck over a final loss, Aus was better team they won.
As i have already said in a thread before 2003 hurt way more and seemed like yesterday.

Malcolm Marshall also had accuracy and speed and no wc.
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Bhai this amount of Phainty reminds me how Hari Singh Nalwa gave phaintys to Afghans.
 
JaDed said:
Lol I’m not a teen to be emotional wreck over a final loss, Aus was better team they won.
As i have already said in a thread before 2003 hurt way more and seemed like yesterday.
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Was that because Tendulkar flopped in the 2003 final or because Australia beat India? Maybe both?

No one celebrates stats in white ball cricket - it is all about the silverware.
 
Technics 1210 said:
Was that because Tendulkar flopped in the 2003 final or because Australia beat India? Maybe both?

No one celebrates stats in white ball cricket - it is all about the silverware.
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Both, and yes they don’t the only reason Dhoni is celebrated is because he captained India to 3, his stats are pretty useless.

Bumrah is accurate and India’s best in last 3 decades but neither is he the captain or part of the strongest Indian 11.
 
RahulBose said:
Bumrah is bumrah.... People on this forum have an habit of putting players against other players and then most of their posts are around the compared player does not have.

What we should be marvelling is the fact that India, of all the countries, produced a player of his acumen.

The impact Bumrah has can only be compared to Sachin. One revolutionized the way the masses of India look at Batting and the other is changing the mindset of Indians around bowling.

There are budding bowlers in India who are watching Bumrah bowl and thinking- they too can be world class...

That's the real impact, not these superficial 1v1 that people are so intrested in.
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Yes if you put Bumrah in the bracket of Indian players, that’s the right lane for comparisons.

I take exception to sachin’s impact on batting. India already had batting role models in the mould of Gavaskar, Amarnath, Vengsarkar and Azharuddin.
 
just a fan said:
Lol Waqar 155+, Wasim 150+ and what else? Yeah of course there's zero evidence to back it up!!
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Imran Khan 160 delusional
Wasim 155 imaginary
Waqar 157 mythical

Bumrah 153 original
 
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JaDed said:
Both, and yes they don’t the only reason Dhoni is celebrated is because he captained India to 3, his stats are pretty useless.

Bumrah is accurate and India’s best in last 3 decades but neither is he the captain or part of the strongest Indian 11.
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2019 to 2023 odi is easily one of the strongest world cup sides if its at full strength. Captaincy cost india in the ko stages and some bad luck due to rain in 2019.

If you do a proper series between india 2023 vs aus 2023 india would win 7/10. Same vs any other team since 2019. England 2019 would lose to india 2023. Bumrah was at his peak.
 
TheSultan said:
Yes if you put Bumrah in the bracket of Indian players, that’s the right lane for comparisons.

I take exception to sachin’s impact on batting. India already had batting role models in the mould of Gavaskar, Amarnath, Vengsarkar and Azharuddin.
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Wasim and bumrah are 2 of the best ever pacers from Asia. They play in terrible Asian conditions where wickets are not conducive to fast bowling too. If anything Asian bowlers should be rated higher than sena bowlers due to the type of wickets and conditions they play in.

Also fielding. Sena are better fielders hence sena bowlers get more wickets via catches. Asian teams drops more catches.
 
Back to Bumrah.

Absolutely IMMENSE next 12 months coming up for him - 10/11 tests in AUS/ENG plus 5 tests at home vs NZ/BAN.

I am hoping BCCI would keep away from all LOI except IPL of course and have him play all the tests.
 
Indeed Bumrah has been phenomenal in recent years. Today is the day when he can make his critics go quiet about him not being a good bowler in knockout games.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Can you prove that Waqar Younis lost pace after his back injury?

Many bowlers suffer stress fracture at a early stage, doesn't mean that they lose pace.

Please provide the reference for Wasim bowling at 94mph.

I am talking clocked speeds here. Not eye speed guns.
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Going by that logic Akthar and Lee must have bowled at 165-170k before their back injuries!

Ps - not gonna intervene in anyone's delusions anymore. Don't wanna deviate this thread.
 
TheSultan said:
Yes if you put Bumrah in the bracket of Indian players, that’s the right lane for comparisons.

I take exception to sachin’s impact on batting. India already had batting role models in the mould of Gavaskar, Amarnath, Vengsarkar and Azharuddin.
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That's why context is important.

All of the above players played in Radio era, where most Indian did not have access to TV.

Sachin played in the 90s, when India was slowly finding its feat, getting economically better, and we saw Sachin bat. Here was this Indian, who is best batsman in the world.

We realised for the first time, as a country, that we can be #1 too.

And that's what Bumrah is doing, making us believe we can be #1 is bowling too.
 
TheSultan said:
Yes if you put Bumrah in the bracket of Indian players, that’s the right lane for comparisons.

I take exception to sachin’s impact on batting. India already had batting role models in the mould of Gavaskar, Amarnath, Vengsarkar and Azharuddin.
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And Bumrah is not best among Indians, he is the best bowler in the era he is bowling.
I don't believe in cross era comparisons, so , for me , he is in the same list as Macgrath Akram... etc
 
kron said:
Imran Khan 160 delusional
Wasim 155 imaginary
Waqar 157 mythical

Bumrah 153 original
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I mean, speed guns are a recent invention. Unfortunately, for the above bowlers, there is no evidence based way in which we can find the fastest Speed and definitely not the average speed.

Again... No evidence based way to make a counter argument.

You may feel that the above bowlers were fast, and I kinda agree with you. Some of Waqar bowls on youtube, with his banana swing, were spectacular.

But, while feelings are good , but they hold little weight against evidence.
 
RahulBose said:
I mean, speed guns are a recent invention. Unfortunately, for the above bowlers, there is no evidence based way in which we can find the fastest Speed and definitely not the average speed.

Again... No evidence based way to make a counter argument.

You may feel that the above bowlers were fast, and I kinda agree with you. Some of Waqar bowls on youtube, with his banana swing, were spectacular.

But, while feelings are good , but they hold little weight against evidence.
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? I am saying they were never that quick. Bumrah has legit bowled 153.

Others I think waqar had max speed 153

Imran was never 150 plus. Never

Wasim too. Never
 
RahulBose said:
And Bumrah is not best among Indians, he is the best bowler in the era he is bowling.
I don't believe in cross era comparisons, so , for me , he is in the same list as Macgrath Akram... etc
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Give bumrah tampered balls, bottle caps etc or sand paper in 90s era.

He would average 15

Ambrose said he would do well in any era. He would be amongst rhe best in any past era. He is a complete bowler.
 
Athers: Bumrah the bowler of the tournament
Sky Sports Cricket's Michael Atherton on India seamer Jasprit Bumrah, whose economy rate for this World Cup is a stunning 4.12:

"He has been the bowler of the tournament.

"He is not the leading wicket-taker but when he has ball in hand, he has been incredibly difficult to get away.

"As a chasing side, you almost fashion your chase around him. You can't afford to get too far behind the rate for the 17th and 19th overs he bowls."
 
Skill levels are out of this world!

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It's like a 16 over innings for the opposition because this guy won't go for many. Consistently outstanding with the ball.
 
Match was over for India when he came to bowl, no other bowler in this world could have bowled such 2 overs when team was already defeated in every way. He is special ..very special.
 
He was clutch today.

Everyone knew his overs were key and he managed to get the job done with unrelenting accuracy. No scoreboard pressure to back him so he created his own pressure to outdo the Saffers.
 
Cemented his place as the second best LOI bowler from Asia with today’s performance.

What a champion!!

2016 when Amir came back reporter asked Rohit about Amir and Rohit answered why talk about Aamir we have Bumrah.
That’s called cricketing knowledge
 
Bumrah got the player of the tournament award. He was superb throughout the tournament and deserved this award.
 
For India, fast bowling is a science. They take care of the basics, and diligently plan each deliver and bowl according to plan. This is why India continues to produce fast bowlers that get the job done without the fanfare and noise associated with their neighbors to the west.

For Pakistan, fast bowling is an art. It’s about noise and drama. No planning. No thought process. Just run and bowl. Pace is pace yaar.

In a game where the game is so much dominated by batsmen, it’s so heartening to see great bowlers like Bumrah. He reminds one of Glenn McGrath and Mohammed Asif in his economical bowling and wicket taking ability. A late bloomer who worked hard at his bowling. Never gets the credit he deserves but always gets the job done and today has won his country a World Cup.

Gotta tip your hat to him. Best bowler of the world.
 
Comfortably the best limited over bowler in history of world cricket. Much harder to hit than Wasim/McGrath. That too in 2024 in T20 games.

Not due to one fluke game here and there. His ER agasint his peers has been just another world in limited overs for a long time. Watching a magician here. I mean T20 WC with a big sample size and still going 4 runs per over in entire tounament and winning it for his team after SA needed run a ball.

Sometime you need to just admire a player. Even without today's last two overs he was hardest bowler to hit in history of limited overs, but todays two overs just puts him right at the top.
 
kron said:
Give bumrah tampered balls, bottle caps etc or sand paper in 90s era.

He would average 15

Ambrose said he would do well in any era. He would be amongst rhe best in any past era. He is a complete bowler.
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+1

He will run riots with bottle caps and comfortably average in mid teens in test.
 
chinaman00 said:
For India, fast bowling is a science. They take care of the basics, and diligently plan each deliver and bowl according to plan. This is why India continues to produce fast bowlers that get the job done without the fanfare and noise associated with their neighbors to the west.

For Pakistan, fast bowling is an art. It’s about noise and drama. No planning. No thought process. Just run and bowl. Pace is pace yaar.

In a game where the game is so much dominated by batsmen, it’s so heartening to see great bowlers like Bumrah. He reminds one of Glenn McGrath and Mohammed Asif in his economical bowling and wicket taking ability. A late bloomer who worked hard at his bowling. Never gets the credit he deserves but always gets the job done and today has won his country a World Cup.

Gotta tip your hat to him. Best bowler of the world.
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On the contrary, Bumrah is actually all art, call it abstract art. Not even coaches know what to do with him and left him alone. He is a freak of nature and would walk into the greatest attacks of all time with ease, something Andy Roberts himself admitted years ago. Bumrah's stature has only grown since then.
 
Buffet said:
Comfortably the best limited over bowler in history of world cricket. Much harder to hit than Wasim/McGrath. That too in 2024 in T20 games.

Not due to one fluke game here and there. His ER agasint his peers has been just another world in limited overs for a long time. Watching a magician here. I mean T20 WC with a big sample size and still going 4 runs per over in entire tounament and winning it for his team after SA needed run a ball.

Sometime you need to just admire a player. Even without today's last two overs he was hardest bowler to hit in history of limited overs, but todays two overs just puts him right at the top.
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one of the best ever test bowlers too. greatest asian bowler of all time very soon. just needs to play 20 odd more tests. a wtc win could easily change that.

he is the best test bowler in the world right now too
 
Hikaru said:
On the contrary, Bumrah is actually all art, call it abstract art. Not even coaches know what to do with him and left him alone. He is a freak of nature and would walk into the greatest attacks of all time with ease, something Andy Roberts himself admitted. Bumrah's stature has only grown since then.
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I still have to pinch myself sometimes. For a child of the 80s and 90s who watched the great fast bowlers of the world enviously while we bowled with the likes of Chetan Sharma, Manoj Prabhakar etc. to see us having one of the greatest quicks of all time is really unbelievable.
 
kron said:
one of the best ever test bowlers too. greatest asian bowler of all time very soon. just needs to play 20 odd more tests. a wtc win could easily change that.

he is the best test bowler in the world right now too
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In test, he is right up there with the best, but needs few more match changing spells.
 
Some time many posters may not realize, but to put it in context,

In entire ODI WC history, there have been only 15 pacers with 35 plus wickets. but 35 wickets are not greatness.

Greatness is,

Wasim went for 4 ER playing in 80s and 90s when score used to be 220 runs for teams.
Bumrah went for 4.2 ER playing in 2020s when scores are 300 plus.

Clearly Bumrah is much harder to hit than Wasim.


Some one will say SR,
Wasim SR in WC was 35
Bumrah SR in WC is 27

Bumrah has struck more frequenty than Wasim as well.

Comparison is not to put down Wasim. I used ot tune to watch him bowl. I am just comparing Bumrah with the absolute best in limited overs.


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In T20 format , nothing needs to be said. Bumrah went 4 runs per over in this T20 WC.

Simply watching the hardest bowler to hit in history of limited overs and he doesn't just keeps it tight he picks up wickets quickly as well.

Bowling early, bowling death overs, bowling in middle, bowling first and bowling second -- Top class no matter when he is bowling.
 
It might be my recency bias but I would pick Bumrah over any bowler. In my book he just became the best ever. He delivers on demand. He keeps when everyone is losing their mind. He smiles when everyone is chewing their nails off. What a player.
 
Buffet said:
Some time many posters may not realize, but to put it in context,

In entire ODI WC history, there have been only 15 pacers with 35 plus wickets. but 35 wickets are not greatness.

Greatness is,

Wasim went for 4 ER playing in 80s and 90s when score used to be 220 runs for teams.
Bumrah went for 4.2 ER playing in 2020s when scores are 300 plus.

Clearly Bumrah is much harder to hit than Wasim.


Some one will say SR,
Wasim SR in WC was 35
Bumrah SR in WC is 27

Bumrah has struck more frequenty than Wasim as well.

Comparison is not to put down Wasim. I used ot tune to watch him bowl. I am just comparing Bumrah with the absolute best in limited overs.


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In T20 format , nothing needs to be said. Bumrah went 4 runs per over in this T20 WC.

Simply watching the hardest bowler to hit in history of limited overs and he doesn't just keeps it tight he picks up wickets quickly as well.

Bowling early, bowling death overs, bowling in middle, bowling first and bowling second -- Top class no matter when he is bowling.
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Yep

This is basically Bumrah emulating Wasim circa 92 when he bowled those magical balls vs Eng.

The only thing that Wasim.edges over Bumrah is longevity.now - wasim.played a helluva lot of bilateral and mundane matches and exhibited his artistry. Bumrah won't get a chance like him but he's a case where quantity doesn't matter really. He's won almost all major stuff that people dream of.
 
Hikaru said:
On the contrary, Bumrah is actually all art, call it abstract art. Not even coaches know what to do with him and left him alone. He is a freak of nature and would walk into the greatest attacks of all time with ease, something Andy Roberts himself admitted years ago. Bumrah's stature has only grown since then.
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He's an artist who has science has his slave.
 
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