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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Jasprit Bumrah is the best fast-bowler in the world right now

Sir Alex said:
Yep

This is basically Bumrah emulating Wasim circa 92 when he bowled those magical balls vs Eng.

The only thing that Wasim.edges over Bumrah is longevity.now - wasim.played a helluva lot of bilateral and mundane matches and exhibited his artistry. Bumrah won't get a chance like him but he's a case where quantity doesn't matter really. He's won almost all major stuff that people dream of.
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If you are among the top 15 wickets takers as pacer in history of ODI WC, then that's enough longevity for me when we have 3rd format in T20 now.
 
Has finally shut up all his hater and won the daddy trophy of all the World Cup. Will go down as the greatest bowler of all time of any era. He is streets ahead of any bowler to grace this game. Champion bower and still not finished. Will win many more ICC trophies like I said GOAT
 
MenInG said:
Skill levels are out of this world!

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What variation is lacking?
 
AMSS said:
Hoping this is the last white ball game Bumrah has played this year.

Best to keep him fresh for 10 tests lined up from Octber through January.
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Except ICC events and IPL, Bumrah is unlikely to play White Ball cricket.
 
I still don't understand how does he bowl the outswinger? How?

Michael Holding said on tv that Bumrah should not play in tests as he cannot bowl the outswinger.

Bumrah proved Mikey wrong and in the next series in England, with Mikey on the Mike, Bumrah unleashed his outswinger.
 
cricketjoshila said:
I still don't understand how does he bowl the outswinger? How?

Michael Holding said on tv that Bumrah should not play in tests as he cannot bowl the outswinger.

Bumrah proved Mikey wrong and in the next series in England, with Mikey on the Mike, Bumrah unleashed his outswinger.
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Tbf he has improved a lot as well, his injury almost made many think he is finished but insane how he came back..
I firmly believe that a player has to consistently improve to remain the best.
 
He won this tournament for India. Even when he didn't pick wickets, batters had to play him safe which increased pressure to go after others
 
I think sides try to get too cute by trying to play him out. South Africa telegraphed it. It’s like a boxer telling his opponent, I’m gonna throw the right hand.

Bumrah gets to bowl with no pressure. He knows they are just trying to play him out. Sure he might be difficult to score off, but you’ve got to take measured risks against him too.

Kudos - he’s a good defensive bowler, but you can’t let him dictate.
 
TheSultan said:
Sure he might be difficult to score off, but you’ve got to take measured risks against him too.

Kudos - he’s a good defensive bowler, but you can’t let him dictate.
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That's what Rizwan and Phil Salt tried to do and they got bowled.

Something about his action is very offputting for the batsmen and they cant pick him.
 
TheSultan said:
I think sides try to get too cute by trying to play him out. South Africa telegraphed it. It’s like a boxer telling his opponent, I’m gonna throw the right hand.

Bumrah gets to bowl with no pressure. He knows they are just trying to play him out. Sure he might be difficult to score off, but you’ve got to take measured risks against him too.

Kudos - he’s a good defensive bowler, but you can’t let him dictate.
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They get bowled when they try to hit him… that’s the very reason they have to play defensive against him.

It’s InTl cricket not some gully tournament that top batsmen will have fear factor against some bowler.
 
TheSultan said:
I think sides try to get too cute by trying to play him out. South Africa telegraphed it. It’s like a boxer telling his opponent, I’m gonna throw the right hand.

Bumrah gets to bowl with no pressure. He knows they are just trying to play him out. Sure he might be difficult to score off, but you’ve got to take measured risks against him too.

Kudos - he’s a good defensive bowler, but you can’t let him dictate.
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Look at his averages across all formats. Calling him a good defensive bowler is a massive understatement. He runs through teams, he wins games, he wins series and he wins cups.

He will go down as one of the best.

Saying he gets to bowl without any pressure is doing him disservice. Batsmen are too scared to take him on...that is because of the pressure he creates.

I didn't watch enough Indian cricket to take notice of him before...but after some threads on PP I made a note to watch him bowl.

He is one of the best.
 
Best ever white ball bowler. Andy Roberts rightly complemented him by saying you can open the bowling with the great windies pace quatret
 
Hands down the greatest bowler of all time. The guy has never been taken to the cleaners in any major tournament he’s played.

You can’t say the same for other greats such as steyn, wasim and McGrath all in their time have been taken to the cleaners at some point.

This is what makes Bumrah special and in a leagu of his own and he’s still not done yet. Bumrah can literally retire now and he’s the greatest of all time.

Opposition literally have 16 overs to chase or play when bumrah is playing.
 
Technics 1210 said:
Lets just make this easy.

Best left arm pacer - Wasin Akram
Best right arm pacer - Jasprit Bumrah
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Bottom line now is Bumrah has surpassed Wasim in terms of achievements.


Bumrah literally is I hit table and can defend anything and has a slightly better repitore in his arsenal which makes better
 
JAV12341 said:
Bottom line now is Bumrah has surpassed Wasim in terms of achievements.


Bumrah literally is I hit table and can defend anything and has a slightly better repitore in his arsenal which makes better
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Calm down.

When Bumrah has 500+ ODI and 400+ Test wickets, then you can compare achievements with Wasim Akram.
 
Bumrah is definitely the current best bowler, Rabada vs Bumrah was a direct one today and Bumrah aced in that competition.

He is definitely an Indian ATG right now, for other status we have to wait imho.

Definitely my fav Ind player of last 5 years!
 
Technics 1210 said:
Calm down.

When Bumrah has 500+ ODI and 400+ Test wickets, then you can compare achievements with Wasim Akram.
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Irrelevant taking 200 extra meaningless wickets against weak opposition like Zimbabwe and Sri lanka won’t make you a better bowler than the GOAT bumrah and its coming from a Pakistani fan.

Your logic is flawed because Bumrah will win another world cup and few more ICC tornys
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
Yeah today sealed it.

Also a lovely humble guy which is rare for a fast bowler.

Him and Rohit have personality's and skill which transcend borders and make them just beautiful to watch in action.
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I wonder the humility is due to short run up, doesn’t get heated up enough and relies heavily on swing and placement.
 
JAV12341 said:
Bottom line now is Bumrah has surpassed Wasim in terms of achievements.


Bumrah literally is I hit table and can defend anything and has a slightly better repitore in his arsenal which makes better
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Stop trolling. Wasim was the best ever left arm bowler I have ever seen. He had amazing swing and control like probably no other bowler before him

Bumrah has played himself into an all time great conversation and that's a big achievement. But you need to have longevity and stay relatively injury free. There's a few years to go before we can seriously compare with the greatest of all times
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Look at his averages across all formats. Calling him a good defensive bowler is a massive understatement. He runs through teams, he wins games, he wins series and he wins cups.

He will go down as one of the best.

Saying he gets to bowl without any pressure is doing him disservice. Batsmen are too scared to take him on...that is because of the pressure he creates.

I didn't watch enough Indian cricket to take notice of him before...but after some threads on PP I made a note to watch him bowl.

He is one of the best.
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He hasn’t run through any sides in this World Cup. He executed a defensive game very well. I’m giving him props for that. Yes of course he has taken wickets across the globe.

Good defensive bowler and hard to get away, but let’s see how he fares over the years.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Bumrah by the time he retires will have outclassed every fast bowler from Asia not named Wasim Akram.
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Yeah sultan of swing is hard to beat, but im absolutely delighted as an Indian, hoping for kids to get inspired by Bumrah.

Man he carries himself so well! Even when he came to states he was amazing!
 
JaDed said:
Yeah sultan of swing is hard to beat, but im absolutely delighted as an Indian, hoping for kids to get inspired by Bumrah.

Man he carries himself so well! Even when he came to states he was amazing!
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Wasim had more variations, esp a leg cutter that Bumrah doesn't have.

Wasim got more swing and out of nowhere.

But Bumrah is far more accurate.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Look at his averages across all formats. Calling him a good defensive bowler is a massive understatement. He runs through teams, he wins games, he wins series and he wins cups.

He will go down as one of the best.

Saying he gets to bowl without any pressure is doing him disservice. Batsmen are too scared to take him on...that is because of the pressure he creates.

I didn't watch enough Indian cricket to take notice of him before...but after some threads on PP I made a note to watch him bowl.

He is one of the best.
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Just to add context,

Last ODI WC, SR was 27
This T20 WC , SR was 11

To put more context in test format,

Marshall's SR in test was 43, Steyn's SR in test was 42, Bumrah SR in test is 45 (He is right up there with the best in SR as well)

Wasim's SR in test was 55, McGrath's SR in test was 52

Just because he is hardest bowler to hit in history does not make him a defensive bowler. He picks up wickets quickly as well.
 
Bumrah needs to leave white ball cricket after 2027 WC. He would be 33 by then.

Play test and IPL only. Prolong his test career as much as possible.
 
TheSultan said:
He hasn’t run through any sides in this World Cup. He executed a defensive game very well. I’m giving him props for that. Yes of course he has taken wickets across the globe.

Good defensive bowler and hard to get away, but let’s see how he fares over the years.
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How does a defensive bowler has a SR of 45.xx in tests and 30.xx in ODIs?
 
TheSultan said:
I think sides try to get too cute by trying to play him out. South Africa telegraphed it. It’s like a boxer telling his opponent, I’m gonna throw the right hand.

Bumrah gets to bowl with no pressure. He knows they are just trying to play him out. Sure he might be difficult to score off, but you’ve got to take measured risks against him too.

Kudos - he’s a good defensive bowler, but you can’t let him dictate.
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Why don't players try then? They can't cause they will get surprises after every ball. He has a nasty bouncer. He has pace. He can seam the ball both ways. Goof slow ball.

Nothing you can do. No respite.

Best is to hope he has an off day or make him think he is having an off day by attacking him with horizontal shots. Never hit air shots against bumrah.

Only 2 guys have done well vs him over the years. Latham somewhat and warner but warnee struggled a bit the last time he faced him.


In tests Crawley did well in India on flat pitches vs bumrah whilst everyone failed.
 
JaDed said:
I do think he should play T20.. 4 overs even Nehraji could do it.. ODI he should give up
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India plays long test series with 5 tests against England and Australia. Bumrah needs to be fit for that.

But yes he can play the t20 WCs if he wants.
 
JaDed said:
I do think he should play T20.. 4 overs even Nehraji could do it.. ODI he should give up
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Bumrah is at his peak now. Next 3 years of injury free cricket and performance like he has been performing will put him in ATG cricteria.
 
Hitman said:
Agreed! Akram's longevity will put him ahead. But apart from Akram, no other Asian fast bowler can lace his boots.
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That is incontrovertible.

One more wc win and a wtc puts him above wasim too imo
 
Hitman said:
Agreed! Akram's longevity will put him ahead. But apart from Akram, no other Asian fast bowler can lace his boots.
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Not just longevity. When Wasim ran in, there was almost always magic in the air. Bumrah has done that for Indian fast bowling, but for me, he will always be a notch below the greatest from Asia. And that's nothing to be ashamed of. It's a phenomenal achievement for an Indian bowler.
 
pillionrider said:
Not just longevity. When Wasim ran in, there was almost always magic in the air. Bumrah has done that for Indian fast bowling, but for me, he will always be a notch below the greatest from Asia. And that's nothing to be ashamed of. It's a phenomenal achievement for an Indian bowler.
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I never thought I would see a Bumrah calibre bowler after seeing the likes of Dodda Ganesh, Mohanty, Abey Kuruvilla, David Johnson in the 90s
 
Buffet said:
If you are among the top 15 wickets takers as pacer in history of ODI WC, then that's enough longevity for me when we have 3rd format in T20 now.
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Wanindu Hasaranga ranks no 4 in all time list of T20 WC wicket takers. Does he qualify as someone who's had a long career ?

As I said before, in his case, quantity is a misleading statistic considering the sheer impact. Starc is another player , huge impact but when you take his overall career numbers it isn't much in white ball cricket.
 
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cricketjoshila said:
Wasim had more variations, esp a leg cutter that Bumrah doesn't have.

Wasim got more swing and out of nowhere.

But Bumrah is far more accurate.
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With the kind of impact he has why need a thousand variations ?

SKY has more variations as a batter than Kohli but that doesn't make him a better player. Kohli I mean the peak one. Not the shadow we are seeing now.
 
kron said:
In tests Crawley did well in India on flat pitches vs bumrah whilst everyone failed.
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Wouldn't say he did amazingly well given he averaged just 40 for the series and opening is among the easier jobs in India. Also a fourth of his runs came at Ranchi when Bumrah was rested too. Rode his luck a few times.
 
Sir Alex said:
Wanindu Hasaranga ranks no 4 in all time list of T20 WC wicket takers. Does he qualify as someone who's had a long career ?

As I said before, in his case, quantity is a misleading statistic considering the sheer impact. Starc is another player , huge impact but when you take his overall career numbers it isn't much in white ball cricket.
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You did not get the point. I was saying that talking about longevity is meaningless if you have large enough sample size to judge a player.
 
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RahulBose said:
Different eras... Different mindset, different goals as individuals and as a team.

Noone should do cross era comparisons.
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At the rarefied level Bumrah's reached now, historical comparisons are almost inevitable. After all, there's nobody current who's at that level. With his performances over the last year, he's left the likes of Cummins, Rabada and other contemporaries behind.

Now there's maybe 4-5 bowlers in history we can compare him to and at that point, it gets very tricky. You can point to statistics, iconic performances and twist them to suit you any way you like but greatest will be in the eye of the beholder.
 
Very humble guy. He doesn't even have a curtain call that fast bowlers usually have. He just smiles. That's it. As Bishop quoted many times his post match interviews about his bowling is a good source of knowledge that young bowlers should listen to.
 
Buffet said:
You did not get the point. I was saying that talking about longevity is meaningless if you have large enough sample size to judge a player.
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Oh yeah we are in agreement then.

Imagine having someone like Bunrah who is called upon only for important matches and instantly delivers. Like I said earlier , Bumrah is a perfect example of why having a gazillion runs and wickets count for nothing much if you fail to turn up in the matches that matter the most.

A reason why I don't rate Kallis much. For all his unbelievable overall stats , when you drill it down to the important teams and tourneys they start paling.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Very humble guy. He doesn't even have a curtain call that fast bowlers usually have. He just smiles. That's it. As Bishop quoted many times his post match interviews about his bowling is a good source of knowledge that young bowlers should listen to.
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Yeah he almost gives free advice ..
 
This thread is about Bumrah and not about some financial chats. No more irrelevant stuff.
 
What's going to help him even more now is the aura he's developed. Most batters (except the few super confident guys) have already lost half the battle by the time they see him start his stuttering, short run-up. All they're looking to do is protect their wicket which'll allow him to get away with even rare bad ball he bowls.

It's a virtuous cycle and all the greatest benefit from it.
 
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