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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Jasprit Bumrah is the best fast-bowler in the world right now

Travis head: The king of PP
Klaseen: The king of Spin
Kohli: The king of Odi
Pat cummings: The king of captaincy

But

Bumrah: The God of Fast bowling.

What a player
 
Red-Indian said:
What's going to help him even more now is the aura he's developed. Most batters (except the few super confident guys) have already lost half the battle by the time they see him start his stuttering, short run-up. All they're looking to do is protect their wicket which'll allow him to get away with even rare bad ball he bowls.

It's a virtuous cycle and all the greatest benefit from it.
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So true !

It's like OG McGrath. There was always that aura if inevitable doom when he ambled to the start of his run up.

The difference being Bumrah is eminently likeable on and off field except during the duration between the start of his run up and the ball is called dead by everyone.
 
Sir Alex said:
So true !

It's like OG McGrath. There was always that aura if inevitable doom when he ambled to the start of his run up.

The difference being Bumrah is eminently likeable on and off field except during the duration between the start of his run up and the ball is called dead by everyone.
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I imagine it must be like facing Nadal at Roland Garros. Most opponents would've already booked their return flights once they've seen the draw.
 
riddu said:
why banned 2 times in domestics ? bcci funded him later to escape .. hope zaman.khan copies his action and throws every ball onto wicket ..unplayable ..
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Banned? When was Bumrah banned?

BCCI funded his escape from where?

Zaman who?
 
The impressive thing is that Bumrah is remarkably consistent. Our over hyped Pakistan fast bowlers start of well but don't develop their game so become predicable and less consistent.

I would get Naseem Shah to watch Bumrah with a fine tooth comb. Only he has the potential to become a reliable and consistent bowler for Pakistan.
 
I would still like someone to post the lab results to prove he doesn't chuck
 
He should avoid home test series well

Should focus on Australia and England series
 
The fact that Bumrah is being mentioned in same breath as Wasim and McGrath is a proof enough that we are witnessing the career of an extremely special bowler.

His biggest strength is that batsmen seem afraid to take him on, whatever the state of the game is. That's more than the half the battle won especially in LoIs.
 
MP2011 said:
He should play all the tests, regardless of the venue. Tests are premier format of the game for a reason.
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Against Bangladesh no?



He should avoid at all cost. He action takes a toll on his back, they have to be very careful.

ICT medical team has done a remarkable job with him.
 
kron said:
Why don't players try then? They can't cause they will get surprises after every ball. He has a nasty bouncer. He has pace. He can seam the ball both ways. Goof slow ball.

Nothing you can do. No respite.

Best is to hope he has an off day or make him think he is having an off day by attacking him with horizontal shots. Never hit air shots against bumrah.

Only 2 guys have done well vs him over the years. Latham somewhat and warner but warnee struggled a bit the last time he faced him.


In tests Crawley did well in India on flat pitches vs bumrah whilst everyone failed.
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Oh man - just stop this hyperbole. If we go by a performance in a t20 World Cup then sam curran should be an ATG.

Celebrate your victory which was well deserved and relax
 
Bumrah is the best bowler in the world and no one can touch him. He is already the best India has ever produced.

This is the first time we are witnessing a bowling super star from India. This is normally associated with Pakistan or Australia or South Africa. Every time Bumrah is bowling, we as fans are expecting a wicket. He is the real power behind India's WC victory. Always delivered when India were gasping for air.
 
JAV12341 said:
Irrelevant taking 200 extra meaningless wickets against weak opposition like Zimbabwe and Sri lanka won’t make you a better bowler than the GOAT bumrah and its coming from a Pakistani fan.

Your logic is flawed because Bumrah will win another world cup and few more ICC tornys
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Mate you're way off. While I'm one of biggest Bumrah fans right from beginning when i saw this lad first time in IPL.

But you can't be taken seriously by discrediting Wasim's achievement. Zim and SL were no mugs during his playing days. Google Zim players during 90s and 2000s.

Also do you know which team has highest runs in an innings and against whom? Again google it if you want.

Wasim was a legend. Bumrah is the best in current lot and on his way to become a GOAT. Both played in different eras. You can never judge them on who is better than who parameter.
 
He has had more wickets than boundaries scored off him in this world cup. Absolutely insane stat. At one point, the no. of wickets was twice the no of 4s conceded!
 
TheSultan said:
Oh man - just stop this hyperbole. If we go by a performance in a t20 World Cup then sam curran should be an ATG.

Celebrate your victory which was well deserved and relax
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What a dishonest comparison. Bumrah has picked up 150 test wickets at an average of 20 and has an insane pdi record too
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
No he's just a humble man. And God blesses the humble and hardworking with success. Lots of lessons for our cricketers there.
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Totally agree. He never sledges, abuses anyone, or stares at the batsmen. Just lets his bowling do the talking. A thorough gentleman of a cricketer.
 
shah_1 said:
Against Bangladesh no?



He should avoid at all cost. He action takes a toll on his back, they have to be very careful.

ICT medical team has done a remarkable job with him.
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He must get a few easy wickets too.
 
One thing I've always admired about Bumrah is his amazing control. He doesn't get much swing, he gets some seam movement, but his real ace is his ability to relentlessly hit the right spots and probe the batsmen's patience.

SA batsmen ended up choking precisely because he would give them nothing and they were under pressure to keep the scoreboard ticking.

Pakistan bowlers like Shaheen and Amir might have more variety and ability to swing the ball a mile, but they aren't even sure where their next ball is going to land.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
One thing I've always admired about Bumrah is his amazing control. He doesn't get much swing, he gets some seam movement, but his real ace is his ability to relentlessly hit the right spots and probe the batsmen's patience.

SA batsmen ended up choking precisely because he would give them nothing and they were under pressure to keep the scoreboard ticking.

Pakistan bowlers like Shaheen and Amir might have more variety and ability to swing the ball a mile, but they aren't even sure where their next ball is going to land.
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His out swinger is better than Shaheen and Amir..
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
One thing I've always admired about Bumrah is his amazing control. He doesn't get much swing, he gets some seam movement, but his real ace is his ability to relentlessly hit the right spots and probe the batsmen's patience.

SA batsmen ended up choking precisely because he would give them nothing and they were under pressure to keep the scoreboard ticking.

Pakistan bowlers like Shaheen and Amir might have more variety and ability to swing the ball a mile, but they aren't even sure where their next ball is going to land.
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Nah, he gets swing and seam both. You had to see him bowl in Eng, SA... Even in the last ODI WC in India, he was swinging both ways. He does get seam movement as well and that's why bowled so well in Aus.
 
Buffet said:
Nah, he gets swing and seam both. You had to see him bowl in Eng, SA... Even in the last ODI WC in India, he was swinging both ways. He does get seam movement as well and that's why bowled so well in Aus.
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I don't watch him that much to be fair, maybe he does get swing as well. What differentiates him is his control though. He lands them on the areas where batsmen don't like it, they don't get the luxury of waiting for free hits.
 
While speaking to a program on a sports media outlet, Michael Vaughan was all praise for Jasprit Bumrah, hailing him as the best seamer to have played white-ball cricket:

"He is obviously a great bowler who plans to ball against all the different batters but you still got to have the skill sets and you've got to know when to bowl which delivery."

"That first one to Reeza Hendricks is an absolute peach. He's probably angled in probably going on to hit the leg stump and at the last minute it whips away and hits the off stump. That ball that gets Jansen again just angled in it through the gate but it's more than that. It's the other deliveries that you know the batters are trying to hit him and he just kind of follows them so they don't get any width and then he sees them get a little bit of kind of room and he throws it out a bit wider he's got that slower ball that's a genius delivery. I honestly think he's the best seam bowler who has played white ball cricket."

"If you can tell me a better seam bowler. I know Wasim Akram was special and there have been many others to mention but I just think he's got this amazing action ability and he's got the pace, he's got all the different skill sets and he does it under pressure day in and day out. It's not just two or three times at the World Cup. it's pretty much every single game."

"Even in the game against Australia, he got hit. Travis Head had hit him in the first over in the powerplay, but he still came back to win India the game because he got Head with the slower ball later in the game. So even if you get him in one over, he's still got three to get you with. How are you facing him, how are you trying to hit him around I've got no idea because I've seen many try it and there are not many that are succeeding. He's a genius."
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
I don't watch him that much to be fair, maybe he does get swing as well. What differentiates him is his control though. He lands them on the areas where batsmen don't like it, they don't get the luxury of waiting for free hits.
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Yah, He is hardest bowler to hit due to control, but late release of ball due to his action makes it harder for batsman. It's hard to face well directed bouncer when bowler is releasing it late. Then you add moving ball both ways at a high speed. It's combination of many things. If it's just landing it well then batsmen can line up eventually.
 
FearlessRoar said:
While speaking to a program on a sports media outlet, Michael Vaughan was all praise for Jasprit Bumrah, hailing him as the best seamer to have played white-ball cricket:

...I honestly think he's the best seam bowler who has played white ball cricket."

"If you can tell me a better seam bowler. I know Wasim Akram was special and there have been many others to mention but I just think he's got this amazing action ability and he's got the pace, he's got all the different skill sets and he does it under pressure day in and day out. It's not just two or three times at the World Cup. it's pretty much every single game."

"Even in the game against Australia, he got hit. Travis Head had hit him in the first over in the powerplay, but he still came back to win India the game because he got Head with the slower ball later in the game. So even if you get him in one over, he's still got three to get you with. How are you facing him, how are you trying to hit him around I've got no idea because I've seen many try it and there are not many that are succeeding. He's a genius."
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Vaughan comments are spot on.
 
Buffet said:
Yah, He is hardest bowler to hit due to control, but late release of ball due to his action makes it harder for batsman. It's hard to face well directed bouncer when bowler is releasing it late. Then you add moving ball both ways at a high speed. It's combination of many things. If it's just landing it well then batsmen can line up eventually.
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You are right of course, I think I just over appreciate the control because Pakistan fast bowlers all lack it. :LOL:
 
Best bowler India has ever produced.

He will be their greatest loss whenever he retires or slows down.
 
Love Cricinfo statsmen : :D

Bumrah became the first to win the Player-of-the-Tournament award at a T20 World Cup - for men or for women - without scoring a run. Bumrah bagged a golden duck against Pakistan, the only time he had to bat in this tournament.
 
Bumrah is indeed a genius bowler of our times. I have hardly seen him ever fail. With the amount of data analysis and video analysis and advance coaching methods available in the world today, he is still so hard to be hit for boundaries even on flat decks. Remarkably consistent and has all the features of what an ideal fast bowler must possess; in swing, out swing, reverse swing with old ball, 140+ kmph pace, a great slower ball, pinpoint accuracy and intelligence. He can bowl on all sorts of tracks and consistently effective across all formats. Among the current generation of bowlers, no one is comes close. A gifted bowler and a lot of hunger in belly for getting better and better! Mad respect!
 
Aang_The_last_airbender said:
Love Cricinfo statsmen : :D

Bumrah became the first to win the Player-of-the-Tournament award at a T20 World Cup - for men or for women - without scoring a run. Bumrah bagged a golden duck against Pakistan, the only time he had to bat in this tournament.
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McGrath didn't score a single run during his team's ODI WC '07 win. But then he wasn't required to bat even once during 11 games Australia played in that WC.
 
shah_1 said:
Naah

Quality>Quantity

He should try his best to prelong his career as long as he can for India
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Don't think so, skipping tests to prolong the career isn't a great move. Bumrah should play all the Tests scheduled in the coming months which is 10 (off course as long as he is fit). These will get him close to 200 Test wickets. He can skip all the JAMODIs and T20Is if he wants. He does not need to practice much for the CT25 as we know he will turn up and perform better than most bowlers in the tournament anyways. Tests are very important for India as they would love to make it to the next ICC WTC finals as well.
 
Josh said:
Bumrah is indeed a genius bowler of our times. I have hardly seen him ever fail. With the amount of data analysis and video analysis and advance coaching methods available in the world today, he is still so hard to be hit for boundaries even on flat decks. Remarkably consistent and has all the features of what an ideal fast bowler must possess; in swing, out swing, reverse swing with old ball, 140+ kmph pace, a great slower ball, pinpoint accuracy and intelligence. He can bowl on all sorts of tracks and consistently effective across all formats. Among the current generation of bowlers, no one is comes close. A gifted bowler and a lot of hunger in belly for getting better and better! Mad respect!
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Only 2 times he failed and that was vs nz in tests.

Reason being he played injured in 2021 wtc final and the first test vs nz the year prior.

Other notable poor performance was in the SA series 2022 in the final test. Thats it. He bounced back.

Great thing about him is the fact that he learns from his mistakes.

Like vs pakistan when he was younger he struggled. His averages weren't that great vs pak in odi and t20. Everything changed post his second injury. He destroyed Pakistan every time he faced them since 2022.
 
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giri26 said:
Don't think so, skipping tests to prolong the career isn't a great move. Bumrah should play all the Tests scheduled in the coming months which is 10 (off course as long as he is fit). These will get him close to 200 Test wickets. He can skip all the JAMODIs and T20Is if he wants. He does not need to practice much for the CT25 as we know he will turn up and perform better than most bowlers in the tournament anyways. Tests are very important for India as they would love to make it to the next ICC WTC finals as well.
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He can wake up from sleep and come to bowl. Still will be the best in the world.
 
Wasim and Bumrah are special. They have unique ways of delivering the ball. They are in complete control of their deliveries. They plan their wickets in advance and execute the plans. They are extremely intelligent and have great intuition on what the batter will do next.
 
Will be remembered as Murali unless he doesn’t undergo at least 1 test at the chucking Lab.
 
AAli98 said:
Will be remembered as Murali unless he doesn’t undergo at least 1 test at the chucking Lab.
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Thread '[VIDEO] Did Jason Roy accuse Shaheen Shah Afridi of throwing?' https://ppforum.pakpassion.net/thre...ccuse-shaheen-shah-afridi-of-throwing.305067/

Shaheen too has faced accusations! Unlike random internet trolls, even professional cricketer Jason Roy has accused Shaheen of chucking.

Every single bowler should undergo testing, and Bumrah would be the last in line. He would be the least likely to fail. His arm bends slightly in the opposite direction when he bowls because of hyperextension, which means his action is even more legal than required. The rules allow a bowler's arm to bend up to 15 degrees, but Bumrah's arm bends slightly backward, resulting in a negative degree of bend, and that too only by a couple of degrees.
 
One of the most consistently impactful and on money bowlers of all time. He’s been around for 7-8 years and during that time he’s been winning and impacting matches on a consistent basis across all 3 formats. The dependability factor for Bumrah is quite phenomenal.

I think McGrath was someone who gave quite similar assurance. You just knew it, McGrath was gonna keep it in control for his overs eyes closed no problem whatsoever. Whenever he came back, he brought the momentum back to Australia when things seemed to drift away.

There were bowlers of course who at their best were more dangerous and better. But nobody’s ever had a lesser bad match ratio than McGrath and now I think it’s Bumrah. His reputation precedes him. I have noticed opposition batters have stopped taking chances against him. Bumrah is not to be messed with.
 
Bhaijaan said:
One of the most consistently impactful and on money bowlers of all time. He’s been around for 7-8 years and during that time he’s been winning and impacting matches on a consistent basis across all 3 formats. The dependability factor for Bumrah is quite phenomenal.

I think McGrath was someone who gave quite similar assurance. You just knew it, McGrath was gonna keep it in control for his overs eyes closed no problem whatsoever. Whenever he came back, he brought the momentum back to Australia when things seemed to drift away.

There were bowlers of course who at their best were more dangerous and better. But nobody’s ever had a lesser bad match ratio than McGrath and now I think it’s Bumrah. His reputation precedes him. I have noticed opposition batters have stopped taking chances against him. Bumrah is not to be messed with.
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That's a very good point.
 
Now I understand how Pak fans felt having Wasim and Waqar. Not comparing, but having such reliable bowlers is literally a cheat code
 
I think Jasprit Bumrah is what Mohammad Zahid could have been. I see a similarity in the two.
 
Saurav said:
Now I understand how Pak fans felt having Wasim and Waqar. Not comparing, but having such reliable bowlers is literally a cheat code
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In T20s you can literally come back at any stage with such bowlers. It is what happened in the final. They knew Bumrah had to bowl 2 overs so they had to take risks against others
 
Bhaijaan said:
One of the most consistently impactful and on money bowlers of all time. He’s been around for 7-8 years and during that time he’s been winning and impacting matches on a consistent basis across all 3 formats. The dependability factor for Bumrah is quite phenomenal.

I think McGrath was someone who gave quite similar assurance. You just knew it, McGrath was gonna keep it in control for his overs eyes closed no problem whatsoever. Whenever he came back, he brought the momentum back to Australia when things seemed to drift away.

There were bowlers of course who at their best were more dangerous and better. But nobody’s ever had a lesser bad match ratio than McGrath and now I think it’s Bumrah. His reputation precedes him. I have noticed opposition batters have stopped taking chances against him. Bumrah is not to be messed with.
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This is excellent point. Like its often said about Messi is its not his number of great performances. Its the number of games when he is average that's incredibly low. You rarely saw peak Messi underperform in a match

Its the same with McGrath & Bumrah. They are so consistent - almost robotic !
 
Bumrah may not be express pace but has a unique action, so many variations, absolute control with the ball and an intuition as to when to bowl them and to whom. This takes the pitch out of the equation. The last bowler who had this was Wasim Akram.
 
Hands down the best bowler in the world right now and one of the best in history. In an era where batters have heavily dominated, Bumrah has stood out like no other.

Easily one of the best in history.
 
sam_ahm said:
Hands down the best bowler in the world right now and one of the best in history. In an era where batters have heavily dominated, Bumrah has stood out like no other.

Easily one of the best in history.
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He needs to get at least 300 wickets in at least one format (to really cement his legacy). Longevity matters too.

Bumrah now has 159 Test wickets and 149 ODI wickets. He is already 30 years old. Can he get to 300? Let's see.
 
sweep_shot said:
He needs to get at least 300 wickets in at least one format (to really cement his legacy). Longevity matters too.

Bumrah now has 159 Test wickets and 149 ODI wickets. He is already 30 years old. Can he get to 300? Let's see.
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Around 400 international wickets. Once he crosses 600 international wickets in three format era, longevity will become a mute point.

Greatness is not occumulating wickets in bilaterals. Only 7 pacers have more wickets than Bumrah in ODI WC with below 25 average. Difference being Bumrah ER being 4.2 when scores in ODI's are pushing 350. No other bowler has been harder to hit in history of ODI WC. In T20, he just went for 4 runs per over in this T20 WC. He is argubly the best white ball bowler in history. I don't think he needs to pick 300 ODI or 300 T20 wickets to cement his legacy in shorter formats. He needs to just be continue to do well in ODI and T20 tournaments. He already has around 240 international wickets in shorter formats.

In test, he has some way to go. Only 5 bowlers in history has taken 175 away test wickets below 25 average. Bumrah has 126 away wickets at average of 21. Once he crosses 175 plus with a few more gun spells agasint strong teams in their den, I will rank him along side best in history in test no matter wicket tally is 275 or 325.

Greatness for me is still the game changing spells in den of strong opposition in the test format for any pacer. T20 and ODI is secondary but very important to go down as all format bowler.
 
sweep_shot said:
He needs to get at least 300 wickets in at least one format (to really cement his legacy). Longevity matters too.

Bumrah now has 159 Test wickets and 149 ODI wickets. He is already 30 years old. Can he get to 300? Let's see.
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Its ok he doesn’t need a legacy for non- Indians , he has Mos in ICC wt20 trophy.

Ishant Sharma has 311 wickets but he will always be below Bumrah in terms of Impact and legacy.
 
Buffet said:
Around 400 international wickets. Once he crosses 600 international wickets in three format era, longevity will become a mute point.

Greatness is not occumulating wickets in bilaterals. Only 7 pacers have more wickets than Bumrah in ODI WC with below 25 average. Difference being Bumrah ER being 4.2 when scores in ODI's are pushing 350. No other bowler has been harder to hit in history of ODI WC. In T20, he just went for 4 runs per over in this T20 WC. He is argubly the best white ball bowler in history. I don't think he needs to pick 300 ODI or 300 T20 wickets to cement his legacy in shorter formats. He needs to just be continue to do well in ODI and T20 tournaments. He already has around 240 international wickets in shorter formats.

In test, he has some way to go. Only 5 bowlers in history has taken 175 away test wickets below 25 average. Bumrah has 126 away wickets at average of 21. Once he crosses 175 plus with a few more gun spells agasint strong teams in their den, I will rank him along side best in history in test no matter wicket tally is 275 or 325.

Greatness for me is still the game changing spells in den of strong opposition in the test format for any pacer. T20 and ODI is secondary but very important to go down as all format bowler.
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50 years later, will anyone care what a specific bowler did with a particular spell? There are probably thousands of good spells like this. People are likely to remember the wicket count.

Anderson - 700+ wickets
Wasim - 400+ wickets
McGrath - 563 wickets
Walsh - 519 wickets
Steyn - 400+ wickets

200-250 Test wickets is unlikely to cut it.
 
sweep_shot said:
50 years later, will anyone care what a specific bowler did with a particular spell? There are probably thousands of good spells like this. People are likely to remember how many wickets the bowlers have.

Anderson - 700+ wickets
Wasim - 400+ wickets
McGrath - 563 wickets
Walsh - 519 wickets
Steyn - 400+ wickets
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You go out of your way to be hypocritical, you said about some random hits of Afridi and Razzaq , in that case even runs should matter does that mean Rahane is better lol.

If we use your logic on batting only Indian batsmen would matter in South Asia and Sanga from lanka because they have the most runs.

Just one week before finals you had issues with India’s ICC performance now you have issues with a bowler’s ICC performance.

Steyn got smacked in must win games unlike Bumrah
 
Shakes my head at hypocrisy of now stats mattering, no one will even come close to Sachin and Virat if stats is what matters.

Kumble has 619 wickets in tests lol(legendary for India but definitely not the best spinner overall)
 
Having 400+ wickets in Test propels a bowler to a legendary status.

There is nothing legendary about having 159 wickets. But, he is only 30. He can maybe reach 300-350 wickets if he remains free from injury.
 
JaDed said:
Shakes my head at hypocrisy of now stats mattering, no one will even come close to Sachin and Virat if stats is what matters.

Kumble has 619 wickets in tests lol(legendary for India but definitely not the best spinner overall)
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Kumble is a legend. Anyone who has 600+ Test wickets is an undisputed legend.

Kumble also took a 10-fer.
 
Bumrah just needs to be a legend for India, just because Sir VIv doesn’t have 10k runs in single format doesn’t mean he isnt legendary, he is the best and will always be.
 
sweep_shot said:
Having 400+ wickets in Test propels a bowler to a legendary status.

There is nothing legendary about having 159 wickets. But, he is only 30. He can maybe reach 300-350 wickets if he remains free from injury.
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the goat Marshall got less than 400 wickets and so did Imran and Marshall.

Roberts and Garner got less 260.

Thomson only got 200
 
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50 years later, will anyone care what a specific bowler did with a particular spell? There are probably thousands of good spells like this. People are likely to remember the wicket count.

Anderson - 700+ wickets
Wasim - 400+ wickets
McGrath - 563 wickets
Walsh - 519 wickets
Steyn - 400+ wickets

200-250 Test wickets is unlikely to cut it.
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Cook, Shiv, Jayawadene - 12K runs
Viv - 8K runs ( debuted 50 years ago )

No one will remember Cook, Shiv, Jayawadene more than Viv.



Thousands of match changing spells in den of strong oppositions? You are over estimating by order of 10 here. Probbaly even larger margin. To put in conext how hard it is to pick a 5-fers agasint strong teams in their den,

Waqar has 2 5-fers agasint strongest 4 teams ( Aus, WI, SA and Ind ) during his era in their den.
Anderson has 4 5-fers agaisnt strongest 4 teams ( Aus, Ind, SA and NZ ) during his era in their den.

These two combined have 1000 plus test wickets between them but just handful of 5-fers in den of strong oppositions.
 
sweep_shot said:
Having 400+ wickets in Test propels a bowler to a legendary status.

There is nothing legendary about having 159 wickets. But, he is only 30. He can maybe reach 300-350 wickets if he remains free from injury.
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When test cricket was ruling the world, Marshall, IK - the two best pacers in world did not get to 400+ wickets.

With 3 formats era, not getting to 300+ wickets is not going to stop a bowler to be recognized as the best if bowler bowls many match changing spells in den of strong oppostions. 275 or 325 won't make much difference, but where you take wickets and agaisnt who you take wickets will matter way more.
 
Buffet said:
When test cricket was ruling the world, Marshall, IK - the two best pacers in world did not get to 400+ wickets.

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No body in thier right mind will say Donald,Fanie Devillers, Bond, Ambrose are not good as Anderson, Broad ever.As the old adage goes "Stats are like two piece.Every one thinks they are showing everything but they hides the most important thing "
 
Bumrah is the best bast bowler but not a legend atm. He still has a long way to go. He might have better stats than many but it does not mean he is better than all of those bowlers.
 
sweep_shot said:
50 years later, will anyone care what a specific bowler did with a particular spell? There are probably thousands of good spells like this. People are likely to remember the wicket count.

Anderson - 700+ wickets
Wasim - 400+ wickets
McGrath - 563 wickets
Walsh - 519 wickets
Steyn - 400+ wickets

200-250 Test wickets is unlikely to cut it.
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You said in another thread that despite Virat Kohli being the highest run scorer in the T20 format, he is not better than Marlon Samuels because the latter scored in World Cup finals. But now you're saying that 50 years later, no one would really care! Does this apply only to bowlers or to batsmen too?
 
sweep_shot said:
50 years later, will anyone care what a specific bowler did with a particular spell? There are probably thousands of good spells like this. People are likely to remember the wicket count.

Anderson - 700+ wickets
Wasim - 400+ wickets
McGrath - 563 wickets
Walsh - 519 wickets
Steyn - 400+ wickets

200-250 Test wickets is unlikely to cut it.
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Sir jee, you forgot Murali 800 wickets :runaway:
:ROFLMAO:
 
Not everything is about number of wickets. Number of wickets is a great personal achievement. But I am a big believer in the impact that a bowler has and the results he affects. Bumrah played a defining role in India's maiden test series victory in Australia. That is a massive achievement that even some of the greats of fast-bowling have not been able to achieve.

If he can manage the same in New Zealand, South Africa and England and maybe win a WC. Then for me, his legacy as one of the greatest of all-time is sealed.
 
The lone Ranger said:
You said in another thread that despite Virat Kohli being the highest run scorer in the T20 format, he is not better than Marlon Samuels because the latter scored in World Cup finals. But now you're saying that 50 years later, no one would really care! Does this apply only to bowlers or to batsmen too?
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None of these legends need approval from Bangladesh fan lol They are great on their own. People still remember MOhammad Zahid who hardly had any career. WHy would anyone forget Booms
 
sweep_shot said:
He needs to get at least 300 wickets in at least one format (to really cement his legacy). Longevity matters too.

Bumrah now has 159 Test wickets and 149 ODI wickets. He is already 30 years old. Can he get to 300? Let's see.
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What kind of metric is that?
 
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