[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Jasprit Bumrah is the best fast-bowler in the world right now

[Romali_rotti]

Let's be honest here. He bowled very well but I think it's safe to say he was out bowled by Boland who had more wickets per innings and at a similar average to Bumrah 13.

I fear due to the sheer number of Indians hyping up Bumrah that Bolands very important contribution will be forgotten.

He won his team the series. Bumrah regrettably limped home.

Boland got to play against poor batsmen much worst than Australia that too away from their habitat so Boland doesn't get a pass over Bumrah.

Bumrah took on better batsmen at their house.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Boland got to play against poor batsmen much worst than Australia that too away from their habitat so Boland doesn't get a pass over Bumrah.

Bumrah took on better batsmen at their house.

You can say what you like but Bumrah is leaving on stretcher and Boland is leaving with a cup. It's important to remember that fact before cutting up the stats favourably and trying to overly contextualize things.

He bowled like a champ and won. Credit to him.

 

[Romali_rotti]

You can say what you like but Bumrah is leaving on stretcher and Boland is leaving with a cup. It's important to remember that fact before cutting up the stats favourably and trying to overly contextualize things.

He bowled like a champ and won. Credit to him.

Yes correct, Bumrah was a one man Army whilst Boland wasn't.

Thank you, once again proves my point Bumrah >>>> Boland.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Yes correct, Bumrah was a one man Army whilst Boland wasn't.

Thank you, once again proves my point Bumrah >>>> Boland.

Well then Congrats I guess to Bumrah for the one man army trophy.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Yes correct, Bumrah was a one man Army whilst Boland wasn't.

Thank you, once again proves my point Bumrah >>>> Boland.

SCG was the spiciest of all the pitches. Teams struggled to cross 200 in 3 innings even with 1 bowler short India rolled them over unde r200 and struck quickly. Too bad Bumrah played only half of one innings.

 

[Romali_rotti]

SCG was the spiciest of all the pitches. Teams struggled to cross 200 in 3 innings even with 1 bowler short India rolled them over unde r200

I mentioned earlier during the series about how India doesn't deserve a bowler like Bumrah, it was disgusting to see how he was barely getting any help from the other bozos in his team....

 

[Ab Fan]

The only takeaway for India from this series is that Bumrah is now officially an all time great of the game and with this, nobody can mock India for its inability to produce a single great fast bowler.

We have joined England and New Zealand as Tier 2 team when it comes to producing world class pacers. England have Trueman and Anderson in last 60 years while NZ had Hadlee only. India too have got Bumrah in addition to the great Kapil and other good pacers like Zak, Srinath and Shami. Obviously home pitches are spin friendly and new ball doesn’t swing a lot so that disadvantage needs to be there in mind.

 

[IAJ]

The only takeaway for India from this series is that Bumrah is now officially an all time great of the game and with this, nobody can mock India for its inability to produce a single great fast bowler.

We have joined England and New Zealand as Tier 2 team when it comes to producing world class pacers. England have Trueman and Anderson in last 60 years while NZ had Hadlee only. India too have got Bumrah in addition to the great Kapil and other good pacers like Zak, Srinath and Shami. Obviously home pitches are spin friendly and new ball doesn’t swing a lot so that disadvantage needs to be there in mind.

Yes, it is about time India produced a great fast bowler after many decades with all the resources you guy have. And after listning for years to neutral commies talking about great bowlers like Wasim and Waqar it will be satisfying for Indian public to finally hear neutral experts prasing and indian fast bowler in same way. Should have happend years agao, but dair aye, durust aye. Enjoy it

 

[Rajdeep]

Yes, it is about time India produced a great fast bowler after many decades with all the resources you guy have. And after listning for years to neutral commies talking about great bowlers like Wasim and Waqar it will be satisfying for Indian public to finally hear neutral experts prasing and indian fast bowler in same way. Should have happend years agao, but dair aye, durust aye. Enjoy it

I can sense some jealousy and grief even in your praise. Resources is not everything. Pakistan is 2nd or 3rd richest cricket board in the world but have not produced a single test bowler with 200+ test wickets for last 3 decades. You guys behave as if only BCCI is rich and PCB is some Zimbabwe board. LOL

 

[psyoptica]

I can sense some jealousy and grief even in your praise. Resources is not everything. Pakistan is 2nd or 3rd richest cricket board in the world but have not produced a single test bowler with 200+ test wickets for last 3 decades. You guys behave as if only BCCI is rich and PCB is some Zimbabwe board. LOL

Asif and Amir were very much 200+ wicket bowlers. If Asif had played, he would have finished his career as an ATG pak bowler. They messed up big time.

 

[BCCI-Enforcer]

I can sense some jealousy and grief even in your praise. Resources is not everything. Pakistan is 2nd or 3rd richest cricket board in the world but have not produced a single test bowler with 200+ test wickets for last 3 decades. You guys behave as if only BCCI is rich and PCB is some Zimbabwe board. LOL

You are talking about wickets but one Bumrah has more money than whole of Pakistan cricket board.

Bumrah can pay salary of most Pakistani players and his bank balance won't change much.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Let's be honest here. He bowled very well but I think it's safe to say he was out bowled by Boland who had more wickets per innings and at a similar average to Bumrah 13.

I fear due to the sheer number of Indians hyping up Bumrah that Bolands very important contribution will be forgotten.

He won his team the series. Bumrah regrettably limped home.

Boland was playing at home. Bumrah was playing a away series.

 

[Rajdeep]

Asif and Amir were very much 200+ wicket bowlers. If Asif had played, he would have finished his career as an ATG pak bowler. They messed up big time.

As Navjot Siddhu would have said, if my aunt had a moustache he will be my uncle.

 

[Rajdeep]

Boland was playing at home. Bumrah was playing a away series.

Also, Boland had great support in the form of ATG bowlers like Cummins and Starc.

Bumrah had Siraj, Akashdeep and Prasidh Krishna

 

[IAJ]

I can sense some jealousy and grief even in your praise. Resources is not everything. Pakistan is 2nd or 3rd richest cricket board in the world but have not produced a single test bowler with 200+ test wickets for last 3 decades. You guys behave as if only BCCI is rich and PCB is some Zimbabwe board. LOL

No jealousy at all. Pakistan is a rubbish cricket team and been that for many years, I will be the first to admit that. I don't want get into and Pak v India discussion, actually my bad I sort of hinted to that in my previous post.

But proper facilities, emphasis on certain areas and education helps alot in addition to talent. Here is where India have invested massively and it's a very good priority so well done to the cricketing autorhities in India, spending money at right place.

Pakistan have actually produced two very good bowlers receclty in Aamir and Asif, but they destroyed their careers, you never how they could end up at the end of their careers if they stayed away from spot fixing saga and other controversies. Again, the talent was there but lack of education among others ruined it for them.

Anyways, sorry for derailing the thread. This is about Bumrah, so enjoy his success.

 

[daytrader]

You are talking about wickets but one Bumrah has more money than whole of Pakistan cricket board.

Bumrah can pay salary of most Pakistani players and his bank balance won't change much.

Money doesn't buy wickets or trophies. Good for him that he has it though. Hopefully money can get him the best treatment and and a new backbone. Doesn't seem to have the spine to come and bowl when his team needed him the most.

 

[Ab Fan]

India have already won an away series in Australia twice so Bumrah’s fitness matters a lot more than anything else here. There is an England series coming next summer and we should focus on WTC again for next season(2025-27). Bumrah’s presence makes a huge difference in Indian bowling attack so his fitness holds a key and India would wish to have him for next 5-6 years with a relatively easier workload plan for him.

Next 5 years plan should be 25 tests, 6-7 bilateral series(1 bilateral series per year and maybe 2 in the WC year) and 5 ICC tournaments (1 ICC tournament per year).

 

[Pakpak]

Bumrah is shattering the records for fun

Helps when you are possibly chucking.

 

[kron]

India have already won an away series in Australia twice so Bumrah’s fitness matters a lot more than anything else here. There is an England series coming next summer and we should focus on WTC again for next season(2025-27). Bumrah’s presence makes a huge difference in Indian bowling attack so his fitness holds a key and India would wish to have him for next 5-6 years with a relatively easier workload plan for him.

Next 5 years plan should be 25 tests, 6-7 bilateral series(1 bilateral series per year and maybe 2 in the WC year) and 5 ICC tournaments (1 ICC tournament per year).

Bumrsh should never play 5 tests. 3 to 4 Max. He will need one test for rest in between. Jet engine not a Tvs motor cycle like waqar or tata indica like wasim.

 

[kron]

Also, Boland had great support in the form of ATG bowlers like Cummins and Starc.

Bumrah had Siraj, Akashdeep and Prasidh Krishna

Starc is a rubbish bowler.

Cummins is good but boland is actually their best bowler.

If bumrah was with shami ishant and co of 2021 they would have dismantled this Oz side 4 0

 

[kron]

The only takeaway for India from this series is that Bumrah is now officially an all time great of the game and with this, nobody can mock India for its inability to produce a single great fast bowler.

We have joined England and New Zealand as Tier 2 team when it comes to producing world class pacers. England have Trueman and Anderson in last 60 years while NZ had Hadlee only. India too have got Bumrah in addition to the great Kapil and other good pacers like Zak, Srinath and Shami. Obviously home pitches are spin friendly and new ball doesn’t swing a lot so that disadvantage needs to be there in mind.

We should change home pitches to aus type pitches. Clearly lot of our players prefer it. Will develop more fast bowlers in the ilk of shami bumrah

 

[kron]

Yes correct, Bumrah was a one man Army whilst Boland wasn't.

Thank you, once again proves my point Bumrah >>>> Boland.

They are absolutely clueless about sport in general. Fail to realize its a team sport. Lmao.

Bumrah is the goat Asian pacer of all time.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Ponting on Bumrah: "Probably the best series of fast bowling I've ever seen"

The Indian pace spearhead returned with 32 wickets from the five Tests in Australia, finishing as the Player of the Series.

In his third Test tour Down Under, Jasprit Bumrah put an incredible shift with the ball to make India’s case for a fiercely-contested Border-Gavaskar Series.

The 31-year-old finished as the leading wicket-taker in the five-Test series with an incredible tally of 32 scalps. During his iconic run, Bumrah also overtook former India captain Kapil Dev to hold the record for most Test wickets by an Indian in Australia – 64 wickets at 17.15 compared to Kapil’s 51 at 24.58.

ICC Hall of Famer Ricky Ponting believes that Bumrah’s exploits are not only the best he’s seen of a visiting bowler in Australia, but probably the best fast-bowling display of all time.

"No doubt, it's probably the best series of fast bowling I've ever seen. Yes, they had good conditions, the fast bowlers, for most of this series. But when you watched him (Bumrah) bowl compared to anyone else in the series, he made batting look so much harder,” Ponting said.

“There's a lot of quality batting in that Australian top-order as well but he made all of them at different times look silly,” he added.

Bumrah, who had captained India to a win in Perth at the beginning of the series, didn’t bowl on the final day of the series in Sydney after experiencing back spasms on Saturday.

Dejected on missing out having a go in the second innings, Bumrah conceded post-match, “Little frustrating but sometimes you have to respect your body, you can’t fight your body,” Bumrah said. “Disappointing, probably missed out on the spiciest wicket of the series. I felt a bit of discomfort during my second spell in the first innings.”

ICC

 

[Ab Fan]

Bumrsh should never play 5 tests. 3 to 4 Max. He will need one test for rest in between. Jet engine not a Tvs motor cycle like waqar or tata indica like wasim.

5 tests per year is what I said.

 

[kron]

5 tests per year is what I said.

I mean he should play 7 to 8 per year for the next 2 to 3 years.

For a 5 tests series. Only play 3 or Max 4. With one game as break In Between. Sandwiched.

He isn't like your stock bowler type who has a repeatable action to bowl all day at 130 to 135 pace with accuracy. He is like a jet engine.

The amount of torque applied through his shoulder is immense. He launches the ball like a catapult. It puts immense strain on his body particularly back and shoulders.

He should be treated lime how you treat an express bowler even if he isn't express. He balls a heavy ball because he rushes batsmen. To be able to bowl with such intensity you need to be able to generate serious force.

Plus not being as tall as 6.2 means he needs to hit a shorter length to deliver rising balls. Takes a toll.

 

[saimayubera]

Aah lol the straw clutching by Pakistanis who cannot admit that Bumrah has surpassed their greatest fast bowlers while their "phaast" bowling factory ended decades ago and now their main bowlers are 120kph bowlers.

Saying that Boland is better because he won the series is as dumb as saying Harbhajan is better than Warne cause of the 2001 series and better than Murali cause of the 2005 series. Mind you, Harbhajan still had a better average than both. Boland does not.

Bumrah has already won two series in Aus and will make another go of it next time when the Ind team will have finished transitioning (Pak will have collected another whitewash by then).

For what it's worth, Boland is a solid pacer for these conditions. Picture perfect for them. Similar to Axar Patel who also averages something like 19. But Boland was destroyed by Bazball in England.

But anyways, why am I giving these justifications.

Not like these arguments are done in good faith.

Just jealousy and seethe as their own team succumbs to a TWENTIETH consecutive loss in the southern hemisphere.

Btw, Bumrah also played in Cape Town against a stronger SA team a year ago and took a 5-fer and was man of the series just like he was this time.

 

[saimayubera]

They are absolutely clueless about sport in general. Fail to realize its a team sport. Lmao.

Bumrah is the goat Asian pacer of all time.

Not clueless, just jealous.

Decent Pak posters on other social media recognize how good Bumrah is.

 

[saimayubera]

Starc is a rubbish bowler.

Cummins is good but boland is actually their best bowler.

If bumrah was with shami ishant and co of 2021 they would have dismantled this Oz side 4 0

Transition period.

The ganguly/dhoni team gave us two good away tour cycles. kohli/rohit too.

Another run starting in 3-4 years.

 

[shariqnoor]

For all the talk about Bumrah being the best bowler, Scott Boland did more damage. Even has better stats than Bumrah in this series.

Bumrah hasn't ever had a 10fer in his career.

 

[Markhor]

I mean he should play 7 to 8 per year for the next 2 to 3 years.

For a 5 tests series. Only play 3 or Max 4. With one game as break In Between. Sandwiched.

He isn't like your stock bowler type who has a repeatable action to bowl all day at 130 to 135 pace with accuracy. He is like a jet engine.

The amount of torque applied through his shoulder is immense. He launches the ball like a catapult. It puts immense strain on his body particularly back and shoulders.

He should be treated lime how you treat an express bowler even if he isn't express. He balls a heavy ball because he rushes batsmen. To be able to bowl with such intensity you need to be able to generate serious force.

Plus not being as tall as 6.2 means he needs to hit a shorter length to deliver rising balls. Takes a toll.

Correct. Bumrah's had incredible success but there's a reason such actions are neither commonplace or recommended in cricket.

To be clear - all fast bowling actions put immense strain on the body. It's the most physically taxing role in cricket so complaining about fast bowler injuries is like complaining the rain makes things wet.

However as already well documented, Bumrah's uniquely vulnerable to injury due to his short stuttering runup and reliance of his upper body to generate pace.

Don't forget Bumrah also has hyperextension. Obviously kids now will want to copy Bumrah because of his success, but not sure if it's a sustainable template to follow.

Look at that Sri Lankan kid Pathirana whose arm is even lower than Malinga's. Like his idol he's already picking up injuries like no tomorrow.

 

[saimayubera]

For all the talk about Bumrah being the best bowler, Scott Boland did more damage. Even has better stats than Bumrah in this series.

Bumrah hasn't ever had a 10fer in his career.

Wasim has 0 5fers in away wins against top teams.

Harbhajan was best bowler in 2011 BGT outbowling Warne. Kumble was best bowler in 2005 SL series outbowling Murali.

Cope. Just cope.

Watch your team following on, man.

 

[Romali_rotti]

For all the talk about Bumrah being the best bowler, Scott Boland did more damage. Even has better stats than Bumrah in this series.

Bumrah hasn't ever had a 10fer in his career.

What an insight there Einstein, I am sure having Starc and Cummins played a tiny winy role to Bolands success here.

And

Bumrah still ended up outbowling the australian quicks with support bowlers like Siraj, Reddy, Rana, etc.

 

[Buffet]

Ponting on Bumrah: "Probably the best series of fast bowling I've ever seen"


"No doubt, it's probably the best series of fast bowling I've ever seen. Yes, they had good conditions, the fast bowlers, for most of this series. But when you watched him (Bumrah) bowl compared to anyone else in the series, he made batting look so much harder,” Ponting said.

“There's a lot of quality batting in that Australian top-order as well but he made all of them at different times look silly,” he added.

+1

Ponting is spot on. I have not seen a better series from any fast bowler. It's extrmely hard to dominate a super dominant test team in their home with many quality batsmen.

It's defies the logic when many posters don't see the difference between performance of bowlers doing well in home versus doing it away against a super dominant team. I guess whatever floats the boat.

Glad to be able to see the best series by pacer in my lifetime. It's rare, does not happen when playing away against the top 1-2 teams of era. No body did in 30-40 years. We may not see it in the next 30-40 years.

Having said that, I hope we see couple of more pacers doing it in my lifetime. Watching sports is more fun that way.

 

[Savak]

Pakistani fans not giving Bhumrah his dues are being salty and jealous that they don't have a Bhumrah in their team. Bhumrah is already proven to be better than Wasim, Waqar. If he plays for another 4-5 years he will go down as the best fast bowler in history

 

[FearlessRoar]

Jasprit Bumrah bowled the most overs for India before heading for scans due to back spasms in the second innings of the 5th Test

 

[Buffet]

Pakistani fans not giving Bhumrah his dues are being salty and jealous that they don't have a Bhumrah in their team. Bhumrah is already proven to be better than Wasim, Waqar. If he plays for another 4-5 years he will go down as the best fast bowler in history

Only if he can keep up the high standards. Just playing more won't make him the best.

Chances are not high, looking at history, for any pacer to keep up such standards for too long.

 

[RexRex]

Only if he can keep up the high standards. Just playing more won't make him the best.

Chances are not high, looking at history, for any pacer to keep up such standards for too long.

Where would he rate if he retired right NOW ?

 

[Buffet]

Where would he rate if he retired right NOW ?

In top 10 test pacers.
Not in top 5 for me.

 

[BCCI-Enforcer]

Wasim has 0 5fers in away wins against top teams.

Harbhajan was best bowler in 2011 BGT outbowling Warne. Kumble was best bowler in 2005 SL series outbowling Murali.

Cope. Just cope.

Watch your team following on, man.

Wasim is a poor bowler compared to Bumrah. Harbajan was better than Warne and Kumble was better than chucker Murali.

This is the damn harsh truth from you but Pakistani won't accept it.

Another truth .... Bumrah is best and most lethal pacers in history.

 

[Amjid Javed]

So Indians making excuses now for defeat in this 5th test due to Bumrah not fancying wanting to bowl and defend low totals.

When players like malcolm marshall, and Anil kumble have bowled and played on with broken bones.

Just goes to show real top cricketers do what ever it takes for their team while others opt out conviently.

 

[RexRex]

So Indians making excuses now for defeat in this 5th test due to Bumrah not fancying wanting to bowl and defend low totals.

When players like malcolm marshall, and Anil kumble have bowled and played on with broken bones.

Just goes to show real top cricketers do what ever it takes for their team while others opt out conviently.

It reminds me of when Akram sat out the 96 WC quarterfinal at the last minute heaping all the pressure onto Waqar

 

[Buffet]

Wasim is a poor bowler compared to Bumrah. Harbajan was better than Warne and Kumble was better than chucker Murali.

This is the damn harsh truth from you but Pakistani won't accept it.

Another truth .... Bumrah is best and most lethal pacers in history.

What? Gap was massive between those bowlers. Kumble was not in the same tier as Warne/Murali and Harbhajan? A few tiers below.

Anyway, you can open a thread for that to discuss to avoid derailing this thread.

Anyway, the thread has lost it's purpose. There is nothing to discuss when it comes to the best fast bowler right now. No one is discussing that anyway.

 

[Rajdeep]

So Indians making excuses now for defeat in this 5th test due to Bumrah not fancying wanting to bowl and defend low totals.

When players like malcolm marshall, and Anil kumble have bowled and played on with broken bones.

Just goes to show real top cricketers do what ever it takes for their team while others opt out conviently.

1. No one making excuse of Bumrah. The only genuine excuse we are making is umpiring howlers this entire series which costed us big time.

2. Bumrah is 31 year old, played 9 test matches back to back and bowled over 150 overs in this downunder tour only with 32 wickets at an avg of 13. He bowled and bowled until his back gave up on the final innings of last test match. He is a champion like never seen. Compare it with your overhyped Pakistani bowlers - Shaheen Shah Afridi playing BPL when a test match going on in SA and phaast young sensation Naseem Shah who is second homecoming of Fred Truman needed rest just after 1 game.

#StopHating

 

[Amjid Javed]

It reminds me of when Akram sat out the 96 WC quarterfinal at the last minute heaping all the pressure onto Waqar

Seems like the pressure got to india in the semi finals when kambli was crying on the pitch asking you fans not to behave like wild monkeys while burning the stadium down

 

[Amjid Javed]

1. No one making excuse of Bumrah. The only genuine excuse we are making is umpiring howlers this entire series which costed us big time.

2. Bumrah is 31 year old, played 9 test matches back to back and bowled over 150 overs in this downunder tour only with 32 wickets at an avg of 13. He bowled and bowled until his back gave up on the final innings of last test match. He is a champion like never seen. Compare it with your overhyped Pakistani bowlers - Shaheen Shah Afridi playing BPL when a test match going on in SA and phaast young sensation Naseem Shah who is second homecoming of Fred Truman needed rest just after 1 game.

#StopHating

Lack of spine and bottled it.

I have more respect for a bowler like Anil Kumble who bowled with a broken jaw vs WI, that's what you call laying on the line for your country

 

[Savak]

Only if he can keep up the high standards. Just playing more won't make him the best.

Chances are not high, looking at history, for any pacer to keep up such standards for too long.

Tbh in 6 years teams barring NZ have not been able to crack the Bhumrah problem. He is a very difficult bowler to plan against and play. He has the gift of not only being able to pitch the ball in the same spot and get the ball to move, seam, cut both ways, he can also challenge either the outside edge or attack the stumps from a delivery pitched in the same spot. This is why batters are always under pressure, on edge against him, he tires you out mentally.

 

[Rajdeep]

Seems like the pressure got to india in the semi finals when kambli was crying on the pitch asking you fans not to behave like wild monkeys while burning the stadium down

Or he got scared of Ajay Jadeja.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Or he got scared of Ajay Jadeja.

I heard the semi final stadium is still on fire, you better go put it out

Humilated in your own country and had to act like sore losers and get game abandoned

I was shocked you didn't do same in 2023 WC final when bumrah bottled the final

 

[RexRex]

In top 10 test pacers.
Not in top 5 for me.

Top 3 for me.

 

[Rajdeep]

I heard the semi final stadium is still on fire, you better go put it out

Humilated in your own country and had to act like sore losers and get game abandoned

I was shocked you didn't do same in 2023 WC final when bumrah bottled the final

I am talking about quarter final where Wasim chickened out and Waqar got demolished by Jadeja.

None of your business what happened in Semi final as your team didnt qualify

 

[Amjid Javed]

Wasim has 0 5fers in away wins against top teams.

Harbhajan was best bowler in 2011 BGT outbowling Warne. Kumble was best bowler in 2005 SL series outbowling Murali.

Cope. Just cope.

Watch your team following on, man.

So basically a 5fer away from home is now a yard stick of performance?

What if a bowler gets less than 5 wickets in an inns and gets man of match?

 

[Buffet]

Tbh in 6 years teams barring NZ have not been able to crack the Bhumrah problem. He is a very difficult bowler to plan against and play. He has the gift of not only being able to pitch the ball in the same spot and get the ball to move, seam, cut both ways, he can also challenge either the outside edge or attack the stumps from a delivery pitched in the same spot. This is why batters are always under pressure, on edge against him, he tires you out mentally.

Yah, that's why he had done so well. I am not disputing that. He is the hardest bowler to face in any format I have seen in three decades.

I was only pointing out that he will start decling with age. To go down as the best bowler in test history, he would have to maintain very good standards for more years even if it's slightly below his standards so far. It can't dip too much.

Looking at history, and his action, it's not likely.

 

[RexRex]

I am talking about quarter final where Wasim chickened out and Waqar got demolished by Jadeja.

None of your business what happened in Semi final as your team didnt qualify

Bandwagon-ers like to trot out the achievements of other teams. I don't blame em.

 

[anikrc1]

The funniest thing is pak posters trying to downplay Bumrah's lack of success by saying standard in previous era was better. Damien fleming and Ponting are two guys who actually played in that era. Flemimg has said that Bumrah is the best visiting bowler he has seen before hadlee and ambrose, a d Ponting had said this is the bst series he has seen any pace bowler havinh in australia. It seems to me the guys who actually played in that so called tougher era respect Bumrah mote than the guys who were only seeing it

 

[Rajdeep]

The funniest thing is pak posters trying to downplay Bumrah's lack of success by saying standard in previous era was better. Damien fleming and Ponting are two guys who actually played in that era. Flemimg has said that Bumrah is the best visiting bowler he has seen before hadlee and ambrose, a d Ponting had said this is the bst series he has seen any pace bowler havinh in australia. It seems to me the guys who actually played in that so called tougher era respect Bumrah mote than the guys who were only seeing it

They are simply jealous because Bumrah is better than any fast bowler they have produced in the past or present. I have said it before and I still stand by it. It should also be evident for anyone reading their posts, even though they don't have the foresight & intelligence of Rajdeep.

 

[anikrc1]

They are simply jealous because Bumrah is better than any fast bowler they have produced in the past or present. I have said it before and I still stand by it. It should also be evident for anyone reading their posts, even though they don't have the foresight & intelligence of Rajdeep.

Tbf, for aporrciating Bumrah we don't need to downplay Wasim. He was also a genius just like Bumrah, and we are lucky to watch both of them bowl. No need to lower ourselves to their level.

 

[sweep_shot]

Tbf, for aporrciating Bumrah we don't need to downplay Wasim. He was also a genius just like Bumrah, and we are lucky to watch both of them bowl. No need to lower ourselves to their level.

Bumrah is a level below Wasim.

Wasim bowled against far superior batters.

 

[anikrc1]

Bumrah is a level below Wasim.

Wasim bowled against far superior batters.

Prove that Wasim bowled to far superior batters.

 

[Bhimja turtle]

I heard the semi final stadium is still on fire, you better go put it out

Humilated in your own country and had to act like sore losers and get game abandoned

I was shocked you didn't do same in 2023 WC final when bumrah bottled the final

I'd rather see someone playing final then see someone chickening out in quarter's

 

[Amjid Javed]

I'd rather see someone playing final then see someone chickening out in quarter's

You still lost. So wether you get knocked out 1/4, 1/2 or lose final is irrelevant if you don't win it

 

[Bhimja turtle]

You still lost. So wether you get knocked out 1/4, 1/2 or lose final is irrelevant if you don't win it

So if a team is lost say in first match and other loses in final ,is it irrelevant as both have not won it no wonder pak cricket is in mess

 

[Amjid Javed]

So if a team is lost say in first match and other loses in final ,is it irrelevant as both have not won it no wonder pak cricket is in mess

Its a fact, in a knockout tournament if you don't win it, you don't win it.

Did 90,000 of you in stadium get a special prize for having your pants pulled down by Australia?

 

[Bhimja turtle]

Its a fact, in a knockout tournament if you don't win it, you don't win it.

Did 90,000 of you in stadium get a special prize for having your pants pulled down by Australia?

Its much better than getting ur undies twisted by united states of america

 

[Amjid Javed]

Its much better than getting ur undies twisted by united states of america

No bigger humiliation then losing an ICC event final at home. 90,000 people turned up thinking they were going to be handed trophy and Daddy Travis Head spanked Bumrah and Co round the park

 

[anikrc1]

No bigger humiliation then losing an ICC event final at home. 90,000 people turned up thinking they were going to be handed trophy and Daddy Travis Head spanked Bumrah and Co round the park

you realize that India is only second to Australia in terms of number of icc trophies won? and literally double the number of Pakistan .

 

[Bhimja turtle]

No bigger humiliation then losing an ICC event final at home. 90,000 people turned up thinking they were going to be handed trophy and Daddy Travis Head spanked Bumrah and Co round the park

Nah mate nothing beats getting spanked by big daddy monank patel first spanking Shaheen and co. Then in the same match people thought phasst bowler amir will save them only to be disappointed by getting smashed for 17 and finally another daddy netravalkar defending 17 ,its called double spanking

 

[Kianig89]

Might be wrong but to naked eye it looks that Bumrah chucks.

 

[Amjid Javed]

you realize that India is only second to Australia in terms of number of icc trophies won? and literally double the number of Pakistan .

Don't care, watching humilated in CT17 final, 2 WTC finals and ODi 23 WC was great fun.

But keep crying

 

[anikrc1]

Don't care, watching humilated in CT17 final, 2 WTC finals and ODi 23 WC was great fun.

But keep crying

Why will I keep crying? I have seen my team win more icc trophies than anyone but Australia?

 

[jnaveen1980]

Don't care, watching humilated in CT17 final, 2 WTC finals and ODi 23 WC was great fun.

But keep crying

This is called Stockholm syndrome lol Davy Warner's phainty in every format has made you slave of Australia. Then Matthew wadde phainty, Hussey phainty. But not sure why you are not a slave of Afghanistan yet as they comprehensively thrashed you in the world cup. Atleast India beat Australia in the first round Eliminated them from 2019 world cup, knocked them out in 2011 world cup. lol Has Pakistan ever beaten AUstralia in a world cup in the last 10 years? Australia owns you in tests, ODIs, T20s. So i understand why you act like a slave of AUstralia. It is perfectly normal.

 

[shaz619]

Bumrah is the best in his hospital ward, that’s for sure

 

[khyberlion]

You still lost. So wether you get knocked out 1/4, 1/2 or lose final is irrelevant if you don't win it

Bumrah is one of the greats of the game, but let's not ignore the fact that this guy has bottled many knockout games. CT Final, WC Final , WTC final just to name a few. He's a serial bottler.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Bumrah is one of the greats of the game, but let's not ignore the fact that this guy has bottled many knockout games. CT Final, WC Final , WTC final just to name a few. He's a serial bottler.

CT final very young
WC final. how did he bottle. He created very first ball chance. Kohli dropped him. He still picked a couple of wickets. Ahmedabad pitch usually becomes a belter under lights with heavy dew. He did his bit
WTC final he was coming back from injury. He was not even at his 50% of his best.

 

[Amjid Javed]

This is called Stockholm syndrome lol Davy Warner's phainty in every format has made you slave of Australia. Then Matthew wadde phainty, Hussey phainty. But not sure why you are not a slave of Afghanistan yet as they comprehensively thrashed you in the world cup. Atleast India beat Australia in the first round Eliminated them from 2019 world cup, knocked them out in 2011 world cup. lol Has Pakistan ever beaten AUstralia in a world cup in the last 10 years? Australia owns you in tests, ODIs, T20s. So i understand why you act like a slave of AUstralia. It is perfectly normal.

What are you waffling on about? Slavery.
India apart from T20 World cup, have been serial bottlers in ICC tournament ls in recent times.

Only slaves here are you weirdos worshiping your players like gods

 

[Amjid Javed]

CT final very young
WC final. how did he bottle. He created very first ball chance. Kohli dropped him. He still picked a couple of wickets. Ahmedabad pitch usually becomes a belter under lights with heavy dew. He did his bit
WTC final he was coming back from injury. He was not even at his 50% of his best.

But but.. excuses excuses..

Go dry your tears..

 

[jnaveen1980]

What are you waffling on about? Slavery.
India apart from T20 World cup, have been serial bottlers in ICC tournament ls in recent times.

Only slaves here are you weirdos worshiping your players like gods

Have you ever beaten Australia? lol just tell me before using Austrlaia to put down India. No. You got owned , butchered by Australia repeatedly over and over and over across the formats. You couldn't even beat them in your own den.

 

[jnaveen1980]

But but.. excuses excuses..

Go dry your tears..

DOn't care what you view that as. THat is a fact. So basically when team loses fans cry. I presume you do that too when your team loses. With that theory i cry a lot less than you.

 

[khyberlion]

CT final very young
WC final. how did he bottle. He created very first ball chance. Kohli dropped him. He still picked a couple of wickets. Ahmedabad pitch usually becomes a belter under lights with heavy dew. He did his bit
WTC final he was coming back from injury. He was not even at his 50% of his best.

He considered one of the greatest of all time. These are just excuses. I haven't even included a few more. Like WC semi final against NZ. Him failing to defend 378 against England to win a series for India. Failing to defend 200 plus scores twice against SA on those helpful pitches for bowlers to help India win a series in SA.

 

[jnaveen1980]

He considered one of the greatest of all time. These are just excuses. I haven't even included a few more. Like WC semi final against NZ. Him failing to defend 378 against England to win a series for India. Failing to defend 200 plus scores twice against SA on those helpful pitches for bowlers to help India win a series in SA.

How are these excuses. Do you watch the match or just say from cricinfo. In the WC 2019 he bowled brilliantly. Removed Guptill in 4th over. He was outstanding in first spell. Then for some weird reason Kohli did not bring him for 22 overs. After 22 overs when he was brought on he created a chance first over. MS Dhoni spilled an easy catch. You basically say if a bowler is part of a failed match then he is a choker lol Marshall, Ambrose, Bishop have all been part of lost world cups. They must be chokers too.

 

[jnaveen1980]

He considered one of the greatest of all time. These are just excuses. I haven't even included a few more. Like WC semi final against NZ. Him failing to defend 378 against England to win a series for India. Failing to defend 200 plus scores twice against SA on those helpful pitches for bowlers to help India win a series in SA.

Cummins, Hazlewood, Starc struggled to remove Thakur and Sundar (was basically a net bowler) in the Gabba test lol. They must be chokers too. They couldn't dislodge Ashwin/Vihari (both injured) for 43 overs. They must be chokers too. You can pick and choose such instances for any bowler.