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Which will be the top party after the upcoming general elections?


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He was never a favourite to begin with. He said it himself. Even if it takes him 30-40 years to change our political culture, he’ll do it. He’s in for the long haul.

Yes, I'm aware of that. That's why I say he deserves to win his PS seat as we need more voices like him in politics rather than having people just to make up numbers.
 
My apologies. I’m seriously sorry for any distress caused by the video I uploaded earlier on this forum.

Nah it's ok brother you don't need to apologies even i believed some of the propaganda content on social media only to realize later it was fake later there is a whole dirty war going on social media not just against PTI but against almost every party and leader. People are using out of context pics, videos and even using old pics to further their own agendas.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cultural Icon and founder Tehreek e Niswan <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SheemaKirmani?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SheemaKirmani</a> on why she is voting <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LoudSpeaker?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LoudSpeaker</a> in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NA247?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NA247</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PS111?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PS111</a>. Aap Ki Awaz, Aap Mein Se <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Aik?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Aik</a> <a href="https://t.co/210oczAH1I">pic.twitter.com/210oczAH1I</a></p>— M. Jibran Nasir (@MJibranNasir) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJibranNasir/status/1018880614144110593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 16, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I saw the clip where Jibran was pretty much cornered by group of religious extremists forcing Jibran to abuse Ahmadis and he refused to do so. It was brave of him and completely support his stance but it was sad at the same time as he almost looked speechless after explaining it multiple times.

I am sure he will still stand his ground but he will be asked same questions again and he will spend more time on explaining his belief than real issues which is a shame but this is reality of society. He won't win this battle through arguments unfortunately. Imran Khan had similar views and eventually had to accept the reality so he could concentrate on bigger issues which does not mean he agrees with beliefs of these people but he knows this mentality needs long term solution through education and awareness rather than arguments.
 
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More than raising voice, he keeps crying oh they are stopping my press conference, oh they are making comments on my social media pages, oh they are asking planted questions. That is the entirety of his politics, just rona dhona.


The other day he parked his car infront of a judges protocol and the police obviously moved his car and put him in a wagon to take to police station, he was doing rona dhona that they are harassing me.

That's an excellent summary of his campaign. While I respect him for his human rights work, his electioneering style leaves a lot to be desired.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here are the <a href="https://twitter.com/CreditSuisse?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CreditSuisse</a> estimates from a couple days ago. 92 seats for PTI, 73 for PML(N) and 34 for PPP. <a href="https://t.co/BKrS2LarOB">pic.twitter.com/BKrS2LarOB</a></p>— Roshan Pakistan Opinion Polling (@RoshanOpinion) <a href="https://twitter.com/RoshanOpinion/status/1019801884490698753?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After <a href="https://twitter.com/CreditSuisse?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CreditSuisse</a>, AKD securities comes up with its own forecast. Both broadly corroborate our recent opinion poll projections. AKD forecasts 99 seats for PTI, 72 for PML(N) and 34 for PPP. <a href="https://t.co/PvEePB1mYQ">pic.twitter.com/PvEePB1mYQ</a></p>— Roshan Pakistan Opinion Polling (@RoshanOpinion) <a href="https://twitter.com/RoshanOpinion/status/1019790269053587461?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The contest in Punjab remains on a knife edge. <a href="https://t.co/ocT0g3hiZC">pic.twitter.com/ocT0g3hiZC</a></p>— Roshan Pakistan Opinion Polling (@RoshanOpinion) <a href="https://twitter.com/RoshanOpinion/status/1019829477906542592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I saw the clip where Jibran was pretty much cornered by group of religious extremists forcing Jibran to abuse Ahmadis and he refused to do so. It was brave of him and completely support his stance but it was sad at the same time as he almost looked speechless after explaining it multiple times.

I am sure he will still stand his ground but he will be asked same questions again and he will spend more time on explaining his belief than real issues which is a shame but this is reality of society. He won't win this battle through arguments unfortunately. Imran Khan had similar views and eventually had to accept the reality so he could concentrate on bigger issues which does not mean he agrees with beliefs of these people but he knows this mentality needs long term solution through education and awareness rather than arguments.

Could you please show me where Imran Khan held similar views to Jibran Nasir in respect of his stance on the Ahmadi issue?

Jibran has repeatedly stood up for the rights of minorities and has actively refused to label Ahmadis as non-Muslim whilst being pressured to do so by fanatics. Please show me where Imran has done the same.

Even before the last election in 2013, Imran had caved in to the fanatics (https://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/17157/no-place-for-ahmadis-in-imran-khans-naya-pakistan/). I also remember he had to do a big u-turn on the Atif Mian when he discovered he was an Ahmadi.

Instances like this made me really lose heart with Imran and PTI. We need politicians who support all our minority groups, and not vilify them for political gain.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Central Punjab, Pakistan's largest electoral region, still firmly behind PML(N). <a href="https://t.co/O8cpu52BOV">pic.twitter.com/O8cpu52BOV</a></p>— Roshan Pakistan Opinion Polling (@RoshanOpinion) <a href="https://twitter.com/RoshanOpinion/status/1019846722430951425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Central Punjab, Pakistan's largest electoral region, still firmly behind PML(N). <a href="https://t.co/O8cpu52BOV">pic.twitter.com/O8cpu52BOV</a></p>— Roshan Pakistan Opinion Polling (@RoshanOpinion) <a href="https://twitter.com/RoshanOpinion/status/1019846722430951425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Yep. Not surprised at all. Have said previously that this region is still likely to go to PML-N.
 
Yep. Not surprised at all. Have said previously that this region is still likely to go to PML-N.

For sure, but the seats in that region will probably end up being split approximately 30:70 between PTI and PML-N, giving PML-N a total of 51 out of 73 seats. The rest of Punjab will be 70:30 in PTIs favour against all opposition. Winning in central Punjab alone is definitely not enough for PML-N to win the election, them winning relies on them completely sweeping Punjab and winning 75-80% of seats in the entire province.
 
For sure, but the seats in that region will probably end up being split approximately 30:70 between PTI and PML-N, giving PML-N a total of 51 out of 73 seats. The rest of Punjab will be 70:30 in PTIs favour against all opposition. Winning in central Punjab alone is definitely not enough for PML-N to win the election, them winning relies on them completely sweeping Punjab and winning 75-80% of seats in the entire province.

PML-N have really mastered the art of biradari politics in Central Punjab. Its amazing they have done so well there.

I think its going to be a tough fight in the rest of Punjab but PTI will be in with a very good in other regions.

What is PTIs stance on creation of South Punjab/Seraikistan province?
 
PML-N have really mastered the art of biradari politics in Central Punjab. Its amazing they have done so well there.

I think its going to be a tough fight in the rest of Punjab but PTI will be in with a very good in other regions.

What is PTIs stance on creation of South Punjab/Seraikistan province?

One of their main election promises. Creation of a province in South Punjab on an administrative basis.
 
One of their main election promises. Creation of a province in South Punjab on an administrative basis.

Have they stated by when they hope to have it created and which specific areas of South Punjab it will include?

I think it is really important this province is created. In fact we need several new provinces.
 
Have they stated by when they hope to have it created and which specific areas of South Punjab it will include?

I think it is really important this province is created. In fact we need several new provinces.

They have already formed a panel which is looking into the entire logistics and planning for it I think? I don't think they have announced which specific areas yet. From what I remember, PTI have promised to put the whole thing into motion as soon as possible, probably very soon after being elected.

The only problem is that creating new provinces requires a 2/3 majority in the National Assembly and in the concerned Provincial Assembly. Getting 2/3 in the National Assembly is manageable, but getting 2/3 in the Punjab Assembly is a steep ask as they are going to have to convince PML-N MPAs to vote against their party.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here are the <a href="https://twitter.com/CreditSuisse?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CreditSuisse</a> estimates from a couple days ago. 92 seats for PTI, 73 for PML(N) and 34 for PPP. <a href="https://t.co/BKrS2LarOB">pic.twitter.com/BKrS2LarOB</a></p>— Roshan Pakistan Opinion Polling (@RoshanOpinion) <a href="https://twitter.com/RoshanOpinion/status/1019801884490698753?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After <a href="https://twitter.com/CreditSuisse?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CreditSuisse</a>, AKD securities comes up with its own forecast. Both broadly corroborate our recent opinion poll projections. AKD forecasts 99 seats for PTI, 72 for PML(N) and 34 for PPP. <a href="https://t.co/PvEePB1mYQ">pic.twitter.com/PvEePB1mYQ</a></p>— Roshan Pakistan Opinion Polling (@RoshanOpinion) <a href="https://twitter.com/RoshanOpinion/status/1019790269053587461?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Interesting. If PTI wins this many seats they wont be able to form a govt straight away and will be reliant on independants many of which will just move and join the PMLN. Unfortunately it looks like we're in for another PMLN plus PPP five years!!

The big difference being Imran will be the leader of the opposition and another five years of fighting a political insurgency!!
 
Interesting. If PTI wins this many seats they wont be able to form a govt straight away and will be reliant on independants many of which will just move and join the PMLN. Unfortunately it looks like we're in for another PMLN plus PPP five years!!

The big difference being Imran will be the leader of the opposition and another five years of fighting a political insurgency!!

Most independents will not move to PML-N.They will go where the power is and that will be PTI in sha Allah.
 
Interesting. If PTI wins this many seats they wont be able to form a govt straight away and will be reliant on independants many of which will just move and join the PMLN. Unfortunately it looks like we're in for another PMLN plus PPP five years!!

The big difference being Imran will be the leader of the opposition and another five years of fighting a political insurgency!!

Not convinced that independents will go with PML-N. They generally go with the biggest party.
 
Most independents will not move to PML-N.They will go where the power is and that will be PTI in sha Allah.

I hope that is the case, then IK can make a government. However what sort of government will it be? he needs as many seats as possible otherwise he wont be able to get any bills through parliament!!
 
I hope that is the case, then IK can make a government. However what sort of government will it be? he needs as many seats as possible otherwise he wont be able to get any bills through parliament!!

Looks like Independents and TLP will be sought after by both parties in Punjab.
 
Let me explain to people the scenario and number of seats needed.

1. To form a simple majority PTI will need 137 seats. So they can win 100 seats themselves and make up the shortfall of 37 with independents and small sympathetic parties.

A simple majority means many major bills and reforms will have to be approved by voting in parliament and with a simple majority this will be difficult. So PTI may not get to implement their big reforms that easily.

Still at least PTI will form government and they can get the ball rolling and still do many things.

2. A two thirds majority. This is what all parties want and desire. It's the ultimate aim and more or less means they will be able to do their major reforms and get things passed easily. It's a strong mandate.

To get this 180 seats will be needed. So PTI can win 100 seats and make up the 80 shortfall with independents and small sympathetic parties. But this is not going to happen as they won't get 80 seats to join them as these won't be available.

A wonderful scenario would be if PTI wins 140 seats all by itself but this may not happen.

Hope this makes things clear.
 
I saw the clip where Jibran was pretty much cornered by group of religious extremists forcing Jibran to abuse Ahmadis and he refused to do so. It was brave of him and completely support his stance but it was sad at the same time as he almost looked speechless after explaining it multiple times.

I am sure he will still stand his ground but he will be asked same questions again and he will spend more time on explaining his belief than real issues which is a shame but this is reality of society. He won't win this battle through arguments unfortunately. Imran Khan had similar views and eventually had to accept the reality so he could concentrate on bigger issues which does not mean he agrees with beliefs of these people but he knows this mentality needs long term solution through education and awareness rather than arguments.

In order to get your passport and ID card you are required by law to declare Ahmadies non-Muslims. He talked about it during his press conference. So anyone who ask him this question his answer is very simple; it is not his place to abuse a certain section of community and at the same time he is not answerable to anyone about his religious beliefs.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Town hall debate: Candidates for NA-247 unveil their future plans <a href="https://t.co/XFEMfdo8Zv">https://t.co/XFEMfdo8Zv</a></p>— M. Jibran Nasir (@MJibranNasir) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJibranNasir/status/1019884785735557122?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

I didn't know he's planning to launch a political party after these elections. I am really hoping he wins his Sindh Assembly seat, will be a really valuable asset in opposition and it will be a good platform for him to launch a party. I would love to see more options in Pakistan because right now there is a serious dearth of centre-left parties. We need new voices, new ideas, and serious debate on the issues.
 
Candidate of liberal secular PPP playing yahudi and western card against PTI in NA126

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"Some of Pakistan's finest military minds have been Ahmadi. Clerics need to stop abusing them" <a href="https://t.co/tQvY7wPi8i">https://t.co/tQvY7wPi8i</a></p>— M. Jibran Nasir (@MJibranNasir) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJibranNasir/status/1019896028567363584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
It takes real courage to tweet something like this in the buildup to the elections.
 
People buy it so they are selling it. Very unfortunate.

They can sell whatever they want but my issue is why media and majority of desi liberals show hypocrisy they still defend this party this is not the first time PPP did something like this. Mujahideen of 80s were turned into Taliban in Bibi govt and she supported them. His father declared Ahmedis as non muslims. There are countless examples where PPP were on bed with ASWJ and Rah e Haq org. But still PPP is progressive liberal party? I mean come on they should stop selling this manjan its getting boring
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"Some of Pakistan's finest military minds have been Ahmadi. Clerics need to stop abusing them" <a href="https://t.co/tQvY7wPi8i">https://t.co/tQvY7wPi8i</a></p>— M. Jibran Nasir (@MJibranNasir) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJibranNasir/status/1019896028567363584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
It takes real courage to tweet something like this in the buildup to the elections.

Did we ever imagine a Pakistani politician would have the courage to make these points?

Jibran is a class act. Too bad our other politicians are either too frightened or too bigoted to make these points.
 
They can sell whatever they want but my issue is why media and majority of desi liberals show hypocrisy they still defend this party this is not the first time PPP did something like this. Mujahideen of 80s were turned into Taliban in Bibi govt and she supported them. His father declared Ahmedis as non muslims. There are countless examples where PPP were on bed with ASWJ and Rah e Haq org. But still PPP is progressive liberal party? I mean come on they should stop selling this manjan its getting boring

Don’t you worry bro, their performance during 2008-13 made sure that people will never vote them into power again. The term liberal is often misunderstood in Pakistani politics so I’m not one bit surprised that they are portrayed as liberals.
 
Don’t you worry bro, their performance during 2008-13 made sure that people will never vote them into power again. The term liberal is often misunderstood in Pakistani politics so I’m not one bit surprised that they are portrayed as liberals.

I wait for the day Sindhis wake up and vote for someone else i don't mind even if they vote of PMLF or MQM for a change instead of PTI but at least they should change the party once.
 
Let me explain to people the scenario and number of seats needed.

1. To form a simple majority PTI will need 137 seats. So they can win 100 seats themselves and make up the shortfall of 37 with independents and small sympathetic parties.

A simple majority means many major bills and reforms will have to be approved by voting in parliament and with a simple majority this will be difficult. So PTI may not get to implement their big reforms that easily.

Still at least PTI will form government and they can get the ball rolling and still do many things.

2. A two thirds majority. This is what all parties want and desire. It's the ultimate aim and more or less means they will be able to do their major reforms and get things passed easily. It's a strong mandate.

To get this 180 seats will be needed. So PTI can win 100 seats and make up the 80 shortfall with independents and small sympathetic parties. But this is not going to happen as they won't get 80 seats to join them as these won't be available.

A wonderful scenario would be if PTI wins 140 seats all by itself but this may not happen.

Hope this makes things clear.

Therefore is it worth going into government, not being able to implement anything and then the chaors return after five years??
 
I wait for the day Sindhis wake up and vote for someone else i don't mind even if they vote of PMLF or MQM for a change instead of PTI but at least they should change the party once.

There are too many petty divisions, like Talpurs vs this and that, that it is impossible to unite people against PPP. More often it is the case that if a person from a rival clan joins PPP the other rivals join Grand Democratic Alliance (GDA) and vice versa. The peasants follow their masters, voting for whichever political parties their masters are happed to be in. Similarly, politics of MQM in Karachi and Hyderabad made sure that the majority Urdu speaking voters will vote for them, either out of fear of the alternative or out of fear of MQM itself. All in all, things are quite bleak in Sindh.
 
Candidate of liberal secular PPP playing yahudi and western card against PTI in NA126

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The manjan doesn't matter, they will still end up behind TLP in the final tally. :)) ZAB would be rolling in his grave looking at the PPP of today.
 
Did we ever imagine a Pakistani politician would have the courage to make these points?

Jibran is a class act. Too bad our other politicians are either too frightened or too bigoted to make these points.

By the way, what’s going on with the website of AWP? I heard it is blocked in Pakistan. But I’m also hearing contrary rumours.
 
Therefore is it worth going into government, not being able to implement anything and then the chaors return after five years??

Of course it's worth going into government. I didn't say that they can't implement anything. Just major reforms they might struggle to get passed.

Even with a simple majority PTI can do many things. Perhaps even more than PPP and PMLN when they had big majorities.
 
Even if current laws were implemented and institutions made strong and independent, 70% of problems would solve themselves.
 
Opening fine on my end. I am on PTCL.

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I just read this tweet by Ammar Rashid
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Over a month now since the website of <a href="https://twitter.com/AwamiWorkers?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AwamiWorkers</a> Party was blocked on multiple ISPs. Scores of people learning about the party are telling us they can't access it. With less than a week to go before elections, PTA has still not even provided us with an explanation for this. <a href="https://t.co/oET33OLLO6">pic.twitter.com/oET33OLLO6</a></p>— Ammar Rashid (@AmmarRashidT) <a href="https://twitter.com/AmmarRashidT/status/1019883838959509505?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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Could you please show me where Imran Khan held similar views to Jibran Nasir in respect of his stance on the Ahmadi issue?

Jibran has repeatedly stood up for the rights of minorities and has actively refused to label Ahmadis as non-Muslim whilst being pressured to do so by fanatics. Please show me where Imran has done the same.

Even before the last election in 2013, Imran had caved in to the fanatics (https://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/17157/no-place-for-ahmadis-in-imran-khans-naya-pakistan/). I also remember he had to do a big u-turn on the Atif Mian when he discovered he was an Ahmadi.

Instances like this made me really lose heart with Imran and PTI. We need politicians who support all our minority groups, and not vilify them for political gain.

Not necessarily on Ahmadi issue but extremism in general and blasphemy law. Even Salman Taseer said in his interview that Imran Khan has similar views on this and Imran Khan has talked about amendments in the law. My PMLN friends often quote him on blasphemy laws, stance on Mumtaz Qadri and even Ahmadi issue. No doubt he does not talk about those issues anymore because he knows he is not winning this debate so better concentrate on things that he could achieve.

Jibran is still not a politician , he is a human rights activist and by the time he becomes a politician, you will see softened approach on this as well. Not that he would change his views but he would need to compromise on this stance to some extent especially if he forms his party and gains some more popularity.

I could clearly see real frustration on his face while repeatedly answering same question.
 
Not necessarily on Ahmadi issue but extremism in general and blasphemy law. Even Salman Taseer said in his interview that Imran Khan has similar views on this and Imran Khan has talked about amendments in the law. My PMLN friends often quote him on blasphemy laws, stance on Mumtaz Qadri and even Ahmadi issue. No doubt he does not talk about those issues anymore because he knows he is not winning this debate so better concentrate on things that he could achieve.

Jibran is still not a politician , he is a human rights activist and by the time he becomes a politician, you will see softened approach on this as well. Not that he would change his views but he would need to compromise on this stance to some extent especially if he forms his party and gains some more popularity.

I could clearly see real frustration on his face while repeatedly answering same question.

The day he compromised on his views will be the day of his political death. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
 
The day he compromised on his views will be the day of his political death. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

As i said, he will for sure IF he decides to build a political party and expand it nationally. Till then, he will stand his ground as this is his strength.

Anyway, as a Pakistani i wish him success. We need more people like him and i would take him in Sindh assembly over Imran Ismail of PTI.
 
And people like me will stop believing in politics.

No you should not, it was NEVER going to be easy ride so be ready for a long and hard journey.

Idealism feels great but there has to be balance between idealism and pragmatism.
 
All this shows is that more Dawn readers are voting for PTI than last time. Other than that, this survey is useless.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">14.55% PTI voters plan to switch parties in the upcoming polls, according to a <a href="https://t.co/YauK021QgH">https://t.co/YauK021QgH</a> survey. View more results: <a href="https://t.co/HnLLiXNYeJ">https://t.co/HnLLiXNYeJ</a></p>— Dawn.com (@dawn_com) <a href="https://twitter.com/dawn_com/status/1019854357880172544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Interesting to see that Dawn would want to highlight this part from the survey specifically :13:
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">14.55% PTI voters plan to switch parties in the upcoming polls, according to a <a href="https://t.co/YauK021QgH">https://t.co/YauK021QgH</a> survey. View more results: <a href="https://t.co/HnLLiXNYeJ">https://t.co/HnLLiXNYeJ</a></p>— Dawn.com (@dawn_com) <a href="https://twitter.com/dawn_com/status/1019854357880172544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Interesting to see that Dawn would want to highlight this part from the survey specifically :13:

Instead of highlighting 36% part of PMLN voter switching to PTI? wow and we are told Dawn is neutral
 
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Chairman PTI Imran Khan Point of View "Kuch Ghalat Fehmian"

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Chairman PTI Imran Khan Point of View "Meri Tehreek"

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Chairman PTI Imran Khan Point of View "Esa Tha Mera Pakistan"

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Chairman PTI Imran Khan Point of View "Khwateen Ki Khudmukhtari"

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Chairman PTI Imran Khan Point of View "Mera Imaan"

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Chairman PTI Imran Khan Point of View "Corruption Ki Lannat"

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Chairman PTI Imran Khan Point of View "Ab Main Tayyar Houn"

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Well done.....some posters will be burning here.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">14.55% PTI voters plan to switch parties in the upcoming polls, according to a <a href="https://t.co/YauK021QgH">https://t.co/YauK021QgH</a> survey. View more results: <a href="https://t.co/HnLLiXNYeJ">https://t.co/HnLLiXNYeJ</a></p>— Dawn.com (@dawn_com) <a href="https://twitter.com/dawn_com/status/1019854357880172544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Interesting to see that Dawn would want to highlight this part from the survey specifically :13:

The entire survey is a joke anyway, nothing scientific about it. If they were truly unbiased though, they would have highlighted the 33% of PML-N supporters switching to PTI in this survey.
 
Hearing good news from Gujjar Khan. Ch Azeem of PTI is gaining ground in NA58
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">14.55% PTI voters plan to switch parties in the upcoming polls, according to a <a href="https://t.co/YauK021QgH">https://t.co/YauK021QgH</a> survey. View more results: <a href="https://t.co/HnLLiXNYeJ">https://t.co/HnLLiXNYeJ</a></p>— Dawn.com (@dawn_com) <a href="https://twitter.com/dawn_com/status/1019854357880172544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Interesting to see that Dawn would want to highlight this part from the survey specifically :13:

Ye bik gayi hai gormint!
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In Northwest Punjab, PML(N) in a vulnerable position as PTI and partners (AMLP, PML(Q)) combined are ahead of the party. <a href="https://t.co/NV6ECN6tJx">pic.twitter.com/NV6ECN6tJx</a></p>— Roshan Pakistan Opinion Polling (@RoshanOpinion) <a href="https://twitter.com/RoshanOpinion/status/1019929818564055040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I hope these are played on channels too from today.

Wah Great..Khan is going from city to city like a tiger,,,,,hard work pays and it will be.I am so happy he is going to upper Dir as well on 21sr which can have big impact as pti is fighting hard there,
 
But Jehlum was a bit of shocker especially considering Fawad did pretty well in by elections.

I think there was mismanagement and IK arrived before time because he had to go to Lahore. (But also heard lot of grouping in PTI Jehlum because of both tickets given to same family)
 
I hope these are played on channels too from today.

Wah Great..Khan is going from city to city like a tiger,,,,,hard work pays and it will be.I am so happy he is going to upper Dir as well on 21st which can have big impact as pti is fighting hard there,
 
Wah Great..Khan is going from city to city like a tiger,,,,,hard work pays and it will be.I am so happy he is going to upper Dir as well on 21sr which can have big impact as pti is fighting hard there,

Siraj is finding it hard to go out of DIR and Fazlu is stuck in South KP both of them are trying to save their own seats right now instead of campaigning for MMA lol
 
Polling really well now! PTI and allies ahead in South Punjab, Northwest Punjab, and Hazara, three out of four PML-N zones! Things looking really good, we just need people to get out and vote!
 
One of the programs I posted above is from Jhelum. According to it, PMLN 45% and PTI 40%.
 
Siraj is finding it hard to go out of DIR and Fazlu is stuck in South KP both of them are trying to save their own seats right now instead of campaigning for MMA lol

Yes but siraj will lose most probably in his own NA seat,upper dir is relatively weak but i hope pti will be the winner..IA.
 
No you should not, it was NEVER going to be easy ride so be ready for a long and hard journey.

Idealism feels great but there has to be balance between idealism and pragmatism.

What’s the point of electing anyone who don’t have enough spine to stick to the principles that attracted you to them in the first place? That’s just a barter of one bad guy at the cost of another.
 
Yea Raja Rental seat there is 3 way fight on this seat and PTI was number 3 but now gaining ground quickly

Thats why our dear fellow is making posts after posts showing BRT ,trying that roads have been destroyed :yk2
 
Thats why our dear fellow is making posts after posts showing BRT ,trying that roads have been destroyed :yk2

Tell him dollar is 128+ now that increases cost automatically. Who is responsible for getting dollar reach that price?
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A lot of nefarious propaganda has been spread against us regarding our views on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kashmir</a> issue by editing clips and quoting us out of context. My stance on the issue has been consistent and will remain same <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LetKashmirDecide?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LetKashmirDecide</a>. Watch here: <a href="https://t.co/9hIF5RLNvq">pic.twitter.com/9hIF5RLNvq</a></p>— M. Jibran Nasir (@MJibranNasir) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJibranNasir/status/1019936770576863233?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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AKD Survey is predicting 99 seats for PTI. 64 from Punjab, 24 from KP

https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/pak...hly-likely-in-2018-elections-new-study-shows/

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If PTI's situation is messy then think about other side as well, PMLN will most probably need to form alliance with PPP, MMA and MQM to form the government which won't be the strongest government.

Tricky times head.

For Pakistan's sake (not just PTI), i hope PTI gets around 110 - 120 seats otherwise very weak coalition government.
 
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