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[Report] BCCI accused of switching pitches in ICC World Cup 2023

Suleiman said:
It’s over.

Like I said, India/BCCI are the bad guys in the ICC multiverse.

Hope this crooked board’s team never lifts a trophy ever again.

No tolerance for cheating as a Pakistan cricket fan.

Never again.
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Might is right!!! They can do whatever they want, if others capable to stop it good luck with that. No IPL contract!!!!
 
I saw a video months ago India will be winning this tournament. Its all fixed.
 
All those complaining about used pitch surely were complaining when a used pitch was used in the SF of Ct 2017 between Eng and Pak as well.
 
Lol Shubman barely touched that ball and it raced to the boundary. Some slow pitch, this.
 
BCCI will do everything in its power to rig that match.
They have made mockery of cricket.

Non Indian fans should have stopped watching this farcical world cup.

It's just so disappointing and so unfortunate that cheater India will win the world cup.

The day India wins the world cup cricket will lose.
 
Both teams will play on the same pitch. Whoever plays better will win.

To all Pakistani and one particular New Zealand fan crying - who asked New Zealand pacers to let India score 89 in 11 overs?

If it was a “slow” pitch, India would be struggling to time the ball and this would have become a 250-270 game which it is not unless there is a monumental collapse on India’s part.

How is this a slow pitch if India are on their way to another 330+ total?
 
I have never seen a “slow” pitch play like this. Where is the slowness?

Slow pitch is what Pakistan got against England in the 2017 CT semifinal. Now that is what you call blatant cheating.

It was carefully designed to favor Pakistan and boost the chances of a Pakistan vs India final $$$$
 
Mamoon said:
Both teams will play on the same pitch. Whoever plays better will win.

To all Pakistani and one particular New Zealand fan crying - who asked New Zealand pacers to let India score 89 in 11 overs?

If it was a “slow” pitch, India would be struggling to time the ball and this would have become a 250-270 game which it is not unless there is a monumental collapse on India’s part.

How is this a slow pitch if India are on their way to another 330+ total?
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Used pitch doesn't mean a slow one necessarily. It is also the amount of wear and tear which aids the spinners. India is obviously more adept at using these conditions.
It has been made clear that India vs NZ is played on a used pitch and change has been made at the behest of Indian team management which amounts to nothing but cheating in an ICC tournament.
 
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Ahmed216 said:
Used pitch doesn't mean a slow one necessarily. It is also the amount of wear and tear which aids the spinners. India is obviously more adept at using these conditions.
It has been made clear that India vs NZ is played on a used pitch and change has been made at the behest of Indian team management which amounts to nothing but cheating in an ICC tournament.
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I know more about this game than all Pakistani fans put together. The last thing I need are lectures from Pakistani fans who cannot accept the harsh reality that India is clearly the best team at this World Cup regardless of the state of the pitch.

They have all bases covered and there is pretty much no weakness in this team that can be exploited by others, they will win this World Cup unless they self-destruct.

New Zealand is an average team right now. You have to be when you lose to a joke team like Pakistan in spite of putting 400 on the board.

Unless it is a green wicket with the ball swinging and seaming all over the place - which will not happen in this part of the world unless it is a day game with overcast conditions - New Zealand stand no chance of beating India here.

They put up a big fight against India in Dharamshala which is 15 to 17 degrees colder than Mumbai and the extra moisture helps the seamers. In Mumbai, they have pretty much no chance of beating India regardless of the pitch.

Please stop crying and finding excuses with all this pitch this and that nonsense. There is no point in moaning if your team is not capable enough to out-bat and out-bowl India.

New Zealand bowlers have bowled absolute filth so far and they would have been hammered irrespective of the pitch that is being used.

However, I’m happy for fans like you because now you have something to cling onto and use as coping mechanism if India wins this World Cup.
 
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Mamoon said:
I know more about this game than all Pakistani fans put together. The last thing I need are lectures from ignorant, delusional, bitter and jealous Pakistani fans who cannot accept the harsh reality that India is clearly the best team at this World Cup regardless of the state of the pitch.

They have all bases covered and there is pretty much no weakness in this team that can be exploited by others, they will win this World Cup unless they self-destruct.

New Zealand is an average team right now. You have to be when you lose to a joke team like Pakistan in spite of putting 400 on the board.

Unless it is a green wicket with the ball swinging and seaming all over the place - which will not happen in this part of the world unless it is a day game with overcast conditions - New Zealand stand no chance of beating India here.

They put up a big fight against India in Dharamshala which is 15 to 17 degrees colder than Mumbai and the extra moisture helps the seamers. In Mumbai, they have pretty much no chance of beating India regardless of the pitch.

Please stop crying and stop embarrassing yourself with all this pitch this and that nonsense. There is no point in moaning if your team is not capable enough to out-bat and out-bowl India.

New Zealand bowlers have bowled absolute filth so far and they would have been hammered irrespective of the pitch that is being used.

However, I’m happy for fans like you because now you have something to cling onto and use as coping mechanism if India wins this World Cup.
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India would have probably won even if it didn’t doctor the pitches to their advantage, but India doing so puts a big asterisk on their win - and rightly so!

If Pakistan would have done what India did here, you and the Indian posters would have been all up in arms and called it a cheating. The problem with you isn’t your positions or your bias, it’s the moral inconsistencies which punctuate your arguments. You have one set of rules for India & another for everyone else. At some point, it becomes a parody - which it is lately.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
England sucks anywhere other than flat pitches with no swing, seam, even slight turn. That is how they won world cup. You don't need special pitch.
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I must've been watching something else then, when England recieved a target of 224 in the semifinal and 243 in the final. Those are some flat pitches.
 
Both teams batting on the same pitch. If NZ are good enough they will beat India.
 
I'm not wading into the debate here before more facts emerge.

Mamoon said:
I have never seen a “slow” pitch play like this. Where is the slowness?

Slow pitch is what Pakistan got against England in the 2017 CT semifinal. Now that is what you call blatant cheating.

It was carefully designed to favor Pakistan and boost the chances of a Pakistan vs India final $$$$
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You really do let your imagination run wild sometimes.

Can you please remind us what Pakistan's ODI record is against England on slow UAE pitches ?
 
If BCCI made it a slow pitch why did Rohit won the toss and opted to bat?

I mean in a slow pitch spinners can take more advantage during daytime under blazing sun than in the evening under lights na?
 
Markhor said:
I'm not wading into the debate here before more facts emerge.


You really do let your imagination run wild sometimes.

Can you please remind us what Pakistan's ODI record is against England on slow UAE pitches ?
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Yes I can.

In 2015 series, Pakistan beat England comfortably in the first ODI on a slow wicket before England got used to the pace and beat Pakistan in the next 4 ODIs.

In ICC tournaments in one-off games, Pakistan would always have an advantage over a team like England on those wickets.

If it was a series Pakistan would have lost to England on that Cardiff pitch, but that one-off situation gave Pakistan considerable advantage.

England would have beat Pakistan with ease on a flat deck and I don’t see any Pakistani fans complaining about the slowness of the wicket.
 
chinaman00 said:
India would have probably won even if it didn’t doctor the pitches to their advantage, but India doing so puts a big asterisk on their win - and rightly so!

If Pakistan would have done what India did here, you and the Indian posters would have been all up in arms and called it a cheating. The problem with you isn’t your positions or your bias, it’s the moral inconsistencies which punctuate your arguments. You have one set of rules for India & another for everyone else. At some point, it becomes a parody - which it is lately.
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If Pakistan was good enough to make the semifinals by winning 9 games on the trot, I wouldn’t have any issues because I would know that Pakistan doesn’t need to tinker with the pitch to win.

But Pakistan will never be good enough to steamroll every single team enroute to the knockouts.

So your hypothetical scenario will never come into play.
 
Everyone already knew India would use murky tactics to win this WC at all costs.

The lack of an ICC trophy was a huge elephant in the room for the worlds richest board.

The majority of Indian fans are too blindsided to realise that the BCCI execs were too busy cashing cheques than to develop cricket in the country.

By cheating the BCCI can continue to pull the wool over their own fans and milk the cash cow for the foreseeable future.

This WC was a formality. Nobody could compete with India when they have been given every advantage you could possibly imagine.

Whatever happens this is a fake WC win and no tournaments held in India should be given any credence going forward.
 
The ICC governing body released a statement, suggesting changes were not uncommon.

“Changes to planned pitch rotations are common towards the end of an event of this length, and has already happened a couple of times,” it read.

“This change was made on the recommendation of the venue curator in conjunction with our host.

“The ICC independent pitch consultant was apprised of the change and has no reason to believe the pitch won’t play well.”

FOXSPORTS
 
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The pitch will become bowler friendly when India bowl.. becoming super slow.
It will be pacer friendly as well as spinner friendly.

Right now it is batting friendly.

Magic from BCCI = ICC.
 
BouncerGuy said:
The ICC governing body released a statement, suggesting changes were not uncommon.

“Changes to planned pitch rotations are common towards the end of an event of this length, and has already happened a couple of times,” it read.

“This change was made on the recommendation of the venue curator in conjunction with our host.

“The ICC independent pitch consultant was apprised of the change and has no reason to believe the pitch won’t play well.”

FOXSPORTS
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Hahaha.

Thankfully we know this is complete BS thanks to the leaked emails.

Embarrassing from India. They should frankly be banned from hosting any tournaments in the future and disqualified from the remainder of this one.
 
hitthestump said:
Everyone already knew India would use murky tactics to win this WC at all costs.

The lack of an ICC trophy was a huge elephant in the room for the worlds richest board.

The majority of Indian fans are too blindsided to realise that the BCCI execs were too busy cashing cheques than to develop cricket in the country.

By cheating the BCCI can continue to pull the wool over their own fans and milk the cash cow for the foreseeable future.

This WC was a formality. Nobody could compete with India when they have been given every advantage you could possibly imagine.

Whatever happens this is a fake WC win and no tournaments held in India should be given any credence going forward.
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Your allegations would hold a pinch of salt if it was a square turnr and India were struggling to score. Over 350 ina WC SF is a belter. But loving you guys cry :) :p ;)
 
ex-q-zit said:
Your allegations would hold a pinch of salt if it was a square turnr and India were struggling to score. Over 350 ina WC SF is a belter. But loving you guys cry :) :p ;)
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The fact of the matter is that India went underhand to try and take as much advantage as possible at the detriment of other teams.

The result is immaterial.

Nobody will recognise an Indian victory in this WC now.

There’s a reason why you’ve failed to win every ICC trophy held outside of your country where you can’t get away with shamelessly cheating.
 
Regardless of the way Indian batting has performed it should not be used as an excuse to step away from "pre decided rules". Given there is an official in place for pitch regulations, monitoring and selections if the host country is to by-pass this individual then what purpose is ICC serving. They should simply hand over their powers to host country and let them run the show completely. Rules are there for a reason and if rules aren't getting abided by then there is no oversight and no accountability. Imagine if a cricket rule is that once a batsman is bowled he is OUT but host country steps in and says on this occasion its not-out given they deemed its best for the crowd to remain engaged in the sport. Surely that wouldn't work, if it doesn't work in cricket playing rules then it shouldn't work in wider cricket rules.
 
after ramiz humiliated them by saying despite IPL they cant win anything, they had to try something to win
 
BouncerGuy said:
The ICC governing body released a statement, suggesting changes were not uncommon.

“Changes to planned pitch rotations are common towards the end of an event of this length, and has already happened a couple of times,” it read.

“This change was made on the recommendation of the venue curator in conjunction with our host.

“The ICC independent pitch consultant was apprised of the change and has no reason to believe the pitch won’t play well.”

FOXSPORTS
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Was the surname of this person kumar or sharma ?
 
I just came here for some fun. What's the latest one now?
 
This time India got caught icc needs to investigate every pitch India played on in this tournament to see what doctoring went on. This is why the world treats sub continent at toilet flush of the world untrustworthy!!
 
OMB said:
I just came here for some fun. What's the latest one now?
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Rohit and Kohli need to perform in a WC final I guess. Not sure. I'm confused like some of them are.
 
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Mamoon said:
Yes I can.

In 2015 series, Pakistan beat England comfortably in the first ODI on a slow wicket before England got used to the pace and beat Pakistan in the next 4 ODIs.

In ICC tournaments in one-off games, Pakistan would always have an advantage over a team like England on those wickets.

If it was a series Pakistan would have lost to England on that Cardiff pitch, but that one-off situation gave Pakistan considerable advantage.

England would have beat Pakistan with ease on a flat deck and I don’t see any Pakistani fans complaining about the slowness of the wicket.
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Two brief points in reply:

1) England blanked Pakistan 4-0 in UAE in 2012 even before their white-ball revolution so this advantage was not conclusive. Nevertheless, if the slow pitch suited Pakistan in a one-off match - what's the explanation for Pakistan beating England on a flat pitch in Nottingham in the 2019 World Cup ?

Wouldn't that highlight it's not pitches but the one-off scenario itself that makes these shock results more likely ?

2) There's no evidence of "blatant cheating" by ICC cooking up a slow pitch to engineer a Pakistan-India final. Let's deal with facts. There were only three venues used for the 2017 CT - Cardiff, Birmingham and The Oval.

According to Glamorgan's CEO Hugh Morris, ICC instructed them in Oct 2016 to produce three pitches for their four matches.

All three surfaces at Cardiff were used in the three group matches inevitably meaning reuse of one in the SF regardless of the participants ! Unless they should've played in the carpark instead.

The venues themselves are selected well in advance. Respectfully, it's time to put this baseless conspiracy theory to bed. It's no different from the Pakistani fans convinced BCCI are plotting against them 24/7.
 
Their confidence is already very high; they don't need to do anything silly. This World Cup is theirs
 
Mamoon said:
I know more about this game than all Pakistani fans put together. The last thing I need are lectures from Pakistani fans who cannot accept the harsh reality that India is clearly the best team at this World Cup regardless of the state of the pitch.

They have all bases covered and there is pretty much no weakness in this team that can be exploited by others, they will win this World Cup unless they self-destruct.

New Zealand is an average team right now. You have to be when you lose to a joke team like Pakistan in spite of putting 400 on the board.

Unless it is a green wicket with the ball swinging and seaming all over the place - which will not happen in this part of the world unless it is a day game with overcast conditions - New Zealand stand no chance of beating India here.

They put up a big fight against India in Dharamshala which is 15 to 17 degrees colder than Mumbai and the extra moisture helps the seamers. In Mumbai, they have pretty much no chance of beating India regardless of the pitch.

Please stop crying and finding excuses with all this pitch this and that nonsense. There is no point in moaning if your team is not capable enough to out-bat and out-bowl India.

New Zealand bowlers have bowled absolute filth so far and they would have been hammered irrespective of the pitch that is being used.

However, I’m happy for fans like you because now you have something to cling onto and use as coping mechanism if India wins this World Cup.
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Terrific especially the last line... That sums up all the pessimstic attitude of most Pakistani fans!
 
Ahmed216 said:
Used pitch doesn't mean a slow one necessarily. It is also the amount of wear and tear which aids the spinners. India is obviously more adept at using these conditions.
It has been made clear that India vs NZ is played on a used pitch and change has been made at the behest of Indian team management which amounts to nothing but cheating in an ICC tournament.
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Wow. Bro used pitch is slow cause of the wear and tear, plenty proof will be seen when Indian bowlers come on.
NZ bowling was rank poor and you will hear no excuse from them
 
pillionrider said:
Kohli and Rohit need to perform in a WC final I guess. Not sure. I'm confused like some of them are.
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Kohli and Rohit will have the last laugh. I grant it is funny imagination as far name is concerned. Wild Imagination nevertheless
 
hitthestump said:
The fact of the matter is that India went underhand to try and take as much advantage as possible at the detriment of other teams.

The result is immaterial.

Nobody will recognise an Indian victory in this WC now.

There’s a reason why you’ve failed to win every ICC trophy held outside of your country where you can’t get away with shamelessly cheating.
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That's not the reason why we did not do well (upto expectations actually) in those tournaments. We (unlike you) accept that there were issues in our team and hence we could not go all the way. The reason why this team is doing so well is because of the strength in this team with all issues covered... This team is capable of winning everywhere... SENA conditions will actually strengthen this team even further because of the potent fast bowling unit it possesses!

Coming back to the point of not doing well in previous tournaments... We did not do that bad... We dominated the league matches and made it to semis or finals all the time (including your famous CT'17), but the slightest issues in the team were exploited by the opposition and we admit it... Your accusation is like we drop our pants and run away failing outside India! Come on...
 
Ahmed216 said:
None of the Indian posters have an explanation for why pitch was changed
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Standard procedure in knockouts.

We don't need to provide any explanation because nothing will be good enough.

Please refer latest ICC statement on this issue,
Though it doesn't come with a tissue.

:rp
 
Ahmed216 said:
None of the Indian posters have an explanation for why pitch was changed
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The moment boult and southee started bowling, I knew it was changed in PP. I suspect Atkinson is also on PP but hiding now else he would have answered better than me
 
pillionrider said:
Standard procedure in knockouts.

We don't need to provide any explanation because nothing will be good enough.

Please refer latest ICC statement on this issue,
Though it doesn't come with a tissue.

:rp
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Then why mr Atkinson wasn't informed. In that email he has also expressed concerns that if India reach final this might happen again
 
Even if this pitch is changed, it does look like better pitch than all the pitches that India played in this tournament! Actually BCCI did a favor to NZ by changing the pitch... Otherwise they would have lost 2 wickets already by now!
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Nothing wrong with the pitch. Ball is coming on nicely for both Conway and Rachin .
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Looks to me that BCCI have been caught with their pants down on the pitch, so they perhaps haven’t risked giving their ‘special balls’ to the team this time.

It was a surprise to see the worlds worst fast bowling nation in history is suddenly transformed into the greatest in the world.

It’s surely not a coincidence that this is happening on their home turf in a tournament where the home board is proven to be heavily over-involved with administration….

If India win this WC it will be meaningless. 2023 will be the first World Cup in history which the fans will consider does not count.

And going forward any tournaments held in India may as well be classed as exhibitions.
 
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The lengths BCCI fanboys go to to try and justify outright intent to cheat is quite frankly disappointing.

The intention and attempt to gain an edge is enough for them to be slammed - no matter the result.

If a player got caught in attempting to tamper the ball but the ball ended up not swinging would it be enough for charges to be dropped?

If a player conspired to bowl a no ball for money, bowled a massive no ball but the umpire didnt call it - is it ok?
 
Ok. Why did venue curator recommend a used pitch instead of fresh one?
 
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hitthestump said:
Looks to me that BCCI have been caught with their pants down on the pitch, so they perhaps haven’t risked giving their ‘special balls’ to the team this time.

The long and short of it is there is no doubt India have been cheating this entire time.

The worlds worst fast bowling nation in history is suddenly transformed into the greatest in the world.

It’s surely not a coincidence that this is happening on their home turf in a tournament where the home board is proven to be heavily overinvolved with administration….

If India win this WC it will be meaningless. 2023 will be the first World Cup in history which the fans will consider does not count.

And going forward any tournaments held in India may as well be classed as exhibitions.
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World's worst fast bowling nation won 2 tours of Australia on Aussie turf.
 
It's possible for two things to be true

India are the best side in this tournament and regardless of selecting pitches they'd win 9 times out of 10

However, if (and obviously it's just an if at this stage) they have interfered in a process that they shouldn't have then that is wrong and there should be some form of punishment. Though due to the power of the BCCI we know they can't be touched.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
The lengths BCCI fanboys go to to try and justify outright intent to cheat is quite frankly disappointing.

The intention and attempt to gain an edge is enough for them to be slammed - no matter the result.

If a player got caught in attempting to tamper the ball but the ball ended up not swinging would it be enough for charges to be dropped?

If a player conspired to bowl a no ball for money, bowled a massive no ball but the umpire didnt call it - is it ok?
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Very well put.

It is shuddering to think that it is only due to the leaked email that we know India have been cheating with the pitches -otherwise the hasty BCCICC cover up might have been swallowable.

And we see Indian fans desperately trying to defend the indefensible.

Pakistan fans did not try and defend spot fixing or match fixing when it happened on our side.

But when Indians are caught cheating they have an excuse for everything. It’s not a good look for the board or the fans.
 
No one can say anything until the 2 from the Big 3 do not have any issues.

Cricket is becoming like WWE now.

I feel bad for Ponting, Tendulkar and other greats who made so many records under tougher conditions, against much more dangerous bowlers.
 
Host ICC tournaments okay. But kindly give chance to both sides to make it entertaining. All pitches here have been win toss, bat first, win match.

You know the results in every match within first 10 overs of the team batting 2nd.
 
Its a clear case of pitch doctoring. The Indians batsman batted on a flat pitch, and the Kiwis are now batting on a different pitch with loads of seam movement. Its like a NZ pitch. I bet thy will change the pitch again when the spinners come into play.
 
Leeon1994 said:
Host ICC tournaments okay. But kindly give chance to both sides to make it entertaining. All pitches here have been win toss, bat first, win match.

You know the results in every match within first 10 overs of the team batting 2nd.
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Which means that both sides have been given a fair chance, as the coin toss gives equal chances to both.
 
Feeling bit uncomfortable about this.

It's not a fair contest.
NZ are being robbed here / 2nd world cup in a row.
 
Devadwal said:
ICC Rule book:

There is no ICC requirement which states that knockout fixtures must be played on fresh pitches. The only stipulation in their pitch and Outfield Monitoring Process reads: "It is expected that venues that are allocated the responsibility of hosting a match will present the best possible pitch and outfield conditions for that match".
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Share the link from official icc page
 
At least people may not complain BCCI, Pitch-doctoring/fixing/shifting, Slow Pitch, Advanced Techno-Ball Tampering, Chemical invisible terraforming of pitch, etc, etc, what not...! Thank God we got some kind of close game instead of NZ bundling out under 100....

Thank you NZ for your efforts!!!
 
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I will stick to my principled stance.

This is not the way i want Bharat to win.

We are a good enough team to compete against anyone on any surface this was unnecessary and in bad taste.

No hate please
 
Indian curators simply know better than some English curator who has no idea about SC wickets . They assume all curators are like PCB farmers pretending to be curators who create pitches that allow 575 to be scored on day 1 of a Test match in 74 overs!

We are well within our rights to make the pitches we want especially when our curators probably the best in the world.

This has been a great pitch for a semifinal. Kudos to MCA curator
 
So what was the ho halla about pitch all about? Almost 750 runs scored in 100 overs. How is it a slow pitch? LOL

I think the focus of attention should shift to toss :ROFLMAO:
 
Shame we had to do it in the semis, now there will be too many eyes on the pitch for the final. We need a proper heist job now
 
Ahmed216 said:
Last 20 overs the semi final pitch truly behaved like a used one. Such a sluggish pitch.
Still no explanation why India had to resort to such blatant cheating.
2019 semis were both played on fresh pitch
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Sluggish pitch where Lockie Ferguson is hitting cutters for sixes. Haan bhai. Anything else you want to add?
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Sluggish pitch where Lockie Ferguson is hitting cutters for sixes. Haan bhai. Anything else you want to add?
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One six bhai 😃
Really my purpose is not to annoy fellow Indian posters.
I am just posting what I feel is right.
Before this revelation I posted in match thread I want India to win this WC although I felt felt pitch doctoring was going on throughout the tournament.
No hard feelings bro
 
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