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Nauman said:To think people called Farhat's 50s lucky atleast he made a 50 after 2 or 3 chances, where as Nazir has had 4 lbw appeals, a catch dropped and still hell bent on throwing his wicket away.
usman917 said:Nazir out for 22, still was worth watching
Muyazzim Khan said:you would rather see a 5 minute slog than a Pak win ? Crazy!
usman917 said:the five minute slog is responsible for most of Pak's runs
Nauman said:and Nazir out, bravo Nazir, cant belive we selected this slogger for world cup.
Nauman said:and Nazir out, bravo Nazir, cant belive we selected this slogger for world cup.
pak_all_the_way said:so you think pakistan are all out for 22????
usman917 said:the five minute slog is responsible for most of Pak's runs
overlord said:yousaf and inzi hiding agian?
pak_all_the_way said:so you think pakistan are all out for 22????
Saj said:Its a high risk move Nauman, but Farhat and Butt (your 2 faves) were given more than enough chances, without ever cementing their places in the side.
usman917 said:When Nazir got out Pak had around 29, so he was responsible for most of the runs at the point he got out.
Muyazzim Khan said:When Gilchrist or Jayasuria blast the opposing team often their partner usually doesn't score a fifth of their runs but you don't often see them get out playing needless slog after slog.
pak_all_the_way said:what kind of theory is that man??????? he is a opener so one of the openers will make the majority of the teams score coz noone else has batted yet?
So what has Nazir done so far, cant belive people are content with an opener who averages 23 in ODIs and since his return he still averages 23. Atleast Farhat and Butt have maintained a higher average whenever they have played.Saj said:Its a high risk move Nauman, but Farhat and Butt (your 2 faves) were given more than enough chances, without ever cementing their places in the side.
i'm sorry i still dont understand your theory. "he made most of the runs at one point"usman917 said:Yk was on 0 off 15 and Hafeez out for a duck.
usman917 said:Gilchrist and Jayasuria have played more than 600 matches between them, this is Nazir's 4th comeback match after a long while.
pak_all_the_way said:i'm sorry i still dont understand your theory. "he made most of the runs at one point"
made up eg: pakistan 3/0 after 1 over
imran nazir 0
hafeez 0
extras 3
extras is the mannnnnnn!!!
Rudi...where are you??Noddy said:Today, 13:06
Amjid Javed
Living Legend Debut: Mar 2004
Venue: Manchester, UK
Runs: 52,085
Noddy bhai described Nazir as a slogger and cant argue with that!
never seems to learn from his mistakes!
I rest my case....
He is a specialist opener, and didnt make the most of his chance....He gives you a flying start for sure, but there is no method to the madness....
You half expect it with Afridi, where ever he bats, but Imran doesnt cut it for me due to that fact.
We have tried many others yes, inclding SB, IF, TU, YH, but what next?
The big two have shied away from batting in these conditions, which just makes it a total disgrace attitude wise for me....Come out and take the conditions as they are...
They score their runs get a 50 or so, and think they have done their bit....May as well, say its 3/1...
Nauman said:So what has Nazir done so far, cant belive people are content with an opener who averages 23 in ODIs and since his return he still averages 23. Atleast Farhat and Butt have maintained a higher average whenever they have played.
Muyazzim Khan said:they got the picture by 60 matches unlike mr Nazir. Hence they have lasted long enough to play so many games. In saying all this I prefer his quick 20odd to the likes of Butt,Farhat and Hameed.
Lahoria said:Pollock is back to destroy Hafeez's career again and if this series had been any longer I am sure he would have accomplished his mission. Maybe time to promote Younis to open with Nazir and let Malik come one down. With Nazir there should'nt be a problem with the runrate and batting with a senior should help Nazir as well.
Lol... seriously baffled. Should've atleast sent in Malik.Amoeba said:Can anyone tell me why the hell Akmal is batting at 4? If Yousuf and Inzy don't want to bat there then at least send in Malik.
Noddy said:Today, 13:06
Amjid Javed
Living Legend Debut: Mar 2004
Venue: Manchester, UK
Runs: 52,085
Noddy bhai described Nazir as a slogger and cant argue with that!
never seems to learn from his mistakes!
I rest my case....
He is a specialist opener, and didnt make the most of his chance....He gives you a flying start for sure, but there is no method to the madness....
You half expect it with Afridi, where ever he bats, but Imran doesnt cut it for me due to that fact.
We have tried many others yes, inclding SB, IF, TU, YH, but what next?
The big two have shied away from batting in these conditions, which just makes it a total disgrace attitude wise for me....Come out and take the conditions as they are...
They score their runs get a 50 or so, and think they have done their bit....May as well, say its 3/1...
Lahoria said:Pollock is back to destroy Hafeez's career again and if this series had been any longer I am sure he would have accomplished his mission. Maybe time to promote Younis to open with Nazir and let Malik come one down. With Nazir there should'nt be a problem with the runrate and batting with a senior should help Nazir as well.
Arent you content by defending Nazir's pathetic (no other way to put it) 22 runs over 30 and 40 odds scored by others. When Farhat and Hafeez were opening they were not setting the world on fire but we were regularly getting starts of 30/40 as compared to Nazir who scores well in his come back match but has been nothing but pathetic with mindless slogs in rest of the games.UsmanCHADDA said:Butt I agree should be there. Farhat and Hameed are completely different matters though. Their consistency and scoring rate is horrible. Once in a while they will score a painful 50 odd to boost their average against the likes of West Indies while the rest of the time they are out fishing outside off
Nobody is content here. All those guys got their chances and managed nothing. Its because of them Imran is here in the first place, he was never our firs-choice opener anyway
Nauman said:Arent you content by defending Nazir's pathetic (no other way to put it) 22 runs over 30 and 40 odds scored by others. When Farhat and Hafeez were opening they were not setting the world on fire but we were regularly getting starts of 30/40 as compared to Nazir who scores well in his come back match but has been nothing but pathetic with mindless slogs in rest of the games.
12thMan said:four by YK. shout of catch it but the ball was 2.3 feet over him
Thats pretty grown up of you mate, may I ask what is your average? What in the world gives you the right to critcize Butt and Farhat? Surely your average would be even worse then Noddy.Muyazzim Khan said:What was your average? Mr Noddy.
We should stop working on to get a decent opener now. We have tried zillions of openers in the last three years. We don't have any. We should open with the bowlers/sloggers and hope they will take us to 20 overs. If we keep on loosing wickets, keep on sending bowlers until shine on the ball is gone.Muyazzim Khan said:So put your neck on the line and tell us who you prefer to open? Its easy to criticise but hard to find a solution. What is your solution ?
I think sending Akmal up top is a good idea, history shows he is a poor batsmen for the death overs. He is better at scoring runs during power plays. How can you criticise Inzi when he showed his class in the last game where every other Pak Batsman failed.
What was your average? Mr Noddy.