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Should Malik be in the plans for the 2019 WC?

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saeed-sohail said:
BZ when Afridi cams we needed 13 an over and we kept up with the rate. When Malik cams we needed 21 of 8 difficult but not impossible. At least Afridi scored 11 of 4. Malik did not even try. Taking that single on 18.5 was surrender to me. Malik gave up too early. May be to keep peace at home.


Word on Hafeez today?
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The point still remains that the match was pretty much out of reach after Kami was dismissed...you can't expect a win from there...nor can you blame Malik for not winning the game there...

I'm sure you can appreciate that Malik should have been batting ahead of Afridi and especially Kami...

Afridi didn't do a bad job but his 11 off 5 didn't justify pushing him up the order...Kami is out of touch and Malik won the previous game...surely Hafeez and Malik batting together made the most sense...Malik isn't going to hit sixes from ball 1 while Afridi and Kami in theory can...they should have batted next...

Its really a reach to involve Malik when it comes to the blame for this loss...

Yuvi had one of his special days and the bowlers were listless...Ajmal's 22 off one over is one good example but he'll get left alone...he had a bad day and it cost us...

And the openers batted too slowly...too many dots...75-1 wasn't good enough...Shehzad had a 100 SR...there are others who performed a lot worse than Malik today...it just seems a little silly that this thread is being touched today...when he fails fine...but when he doesn't people still come in here to slag him off lol...
 
saeed-sohail said:
BZ when Afridi cams we needed 13 an over and we kept up with the rate. When Malik cams we needed 21 of 8 difficult but not impossible. At least Afridi scored 11 of 4. Malik did not even try. Taking that single on 18.5 was surrender to me. Malik gave up too early. May be to keep peace at home.


Word on Hafeez today?
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Check the time of my posts:

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=5408533&postcount=8382

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=5409220&postcount=8390


Re: Hafeez's innings.....good but in losing cause...

got his 50...but could not win...and failed to calm Umer
 
On a serious not me and WL get slated if we criticise Malik by a certain few posters but time after time BZ says he wants Pakistan to lose because Malik did not bat at his fav position or he did not get picked.
 
shaykh1985 said:
The point still remains that the match was pretty much out of reach after Kami was dismissed...you can't expect a win from there...nor can you blame Malik for not winning the game there...

I'm sure you can appreciate that Malik should have been batting ahead of Afridi and especially Kami...

Afridi didn't do a bad job but his 11 off 5 didn't justify pushing him up the order...Kami is out of touch and Malik won the previous game...surely Hafeez and Malik batting together made the most sense...Malik isn't going to hit sixes from ball 1 while Afridi and Kami in theory can...they should have batted next...

Its really a reach to involve Malik when it comes to the blame for this loss...

Yuvi had one of his special days and the bowlers were listless...Ajmal's 22 off one over is one good example but he'll get left alone...he had a bad day and it cost us...

And the openers batted too slowly...too many dots...75-1 wasn't good enough...Shehzad had a 100 SR...there are others who performed a lot worse than Malik today...it just seems a little silly that this thread is being touched today...when he fails fine...but when he doesn't people still come in here to slag him off lol...
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shaykh1985 20/21 runs needed in last over... and yes, it may be impossible but where was the effort? There were 18 overs in this where 10 or more runs were scored.....7 overs where 12 or more runs were scored..... What did Malik do??? 8 runs in the last over..with 4 coming from Gul's bat.... had he scored even 12-16 runs, I would have been happy that at least tried.....

That is the issue...

There was reason I predicted his S/R will be the lowest in the match... which it was!

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saeed-sohail said:
On a serious not me and WL get slated if we criticise Malik by a certain few posters but time after time BZ says he wants Pakistan to lose because Malik did not bat at his fav position or he did not get picked.
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BZ gets slated too. More than you and WL.
 
malik should come in at 3 or 4, he will win pak many matches from those batting positions.
 
saeed-sohail said:
On a serious not me and WL get slated if we criticise Malik by a certain few posters but time after time BZ says he wants Pakistan to lose because Malik did not bat at his fav position or he did not get picked.
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on a serious note, could you enlighten us all,,,,why he was not sent on his actual position...
 
Black Zero said:
on a serious note, could you enlighten us all,,,,why he was not sent on his actual position...
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How do you not know the answer to that?

How much cricket do you watch?

Surely you realise that the need of the hour was big hitting. As in just swing and hit big hitting.

Surely even you know Malik wasn't going to do that from the first ball.

It would have been criminal to send him in before Akmal.
 
Black Zero said:
Ok I am selecting a team...tell me...
a) who got the best stats in T20I in last 12 months?
b) who got the best stats in T20I in wins in last 12 months?




Answers:

a) Malik
b) Malik


I feel for you guys, Malik has put you in catch-22 situation.
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c) who do you have an unhealthy infatuation with?

Answer:

c) Malik
 
saeed-sohail said:
On a serious not me and WL get slated if we criticise Malik by a certain few posters but time after time BZ says he wants Pakistan to lose because Malik did not bat at his fav position or he did not get picked.
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He is a lost cause but you guys go too far with your dislike for Malik.
 
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Come on, this is pathetic.

He surely can't be blamed for the loss. He faced three balls for crying out loud! Two of which were full and impossible to put away for six.
 
Better to carry drinks than be drunk. He carried drinks in first T20, but our team got drunk in second T20. I am trying to remember when was the last time Pakistan won without Malik?

Anyways, better luck next time, Shoaib Malik. Indian team must be relived not to face him earlier and also, ODI series now.

Hafeez really can't finish the game. It's time he should try to able to finish the game when get settled. It's not easy to get settled within first few balls. So, i can't blame Afridi and Malik in this case. They were asked to hit and chase in impossible situation.

Our openers need to get sorted. From what i get impression, they tried to play like chasing target of less than 170. That's unacceptable, and i can't say anything about Ahmed because he won't be playing in ODi, but i truly hope Nasir does try to play according to the situation. ODI series won't be picnic considering the history of Indian home record, then better learn to pace the inning and take the pressure off.

Good luck Pakistan team!
 
This thread would be incomplete without Malik's grandeous 3-ball three runs NOT OUT.... innings!

18.5 Dinda to Shoaib Malik, 1 run, Malik can only play the ball to point for a single, Pakistan need much more


19.1 I Sharma to Shoaib Malik, 1 run, a low full toss, which Malik drives to long off, he didn't quite get under it and he loses the strike 19.5


19.5 I Sharma to Shoaib Malik, 1 run, another delivery on the blockhole, Malik drives to cover, Kohli raises his arms and does a little jig in the outfield
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WL and SS are jealous about Malik have a great looking wife,add to that she is Indian superstar. :)
 
Cannot blame the loss on Malik. 21 of 8 is a tall order for anyone. That being said I do blame him for not trying to win. He never went for a 4 or a 6 and content on single/doubles.

Any proper batsman in that kind of situation should be trying to win and go down blazing rather then just admit defeat like Malik did without even trying.

I remember Fawad's inning in Canada where he scored 23 off 8 balls because he went for it and sis not just lay down like Malik.
 
Saqib S said:
How do you not know the answer to that?

How much cricket do you watch?
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no, i do not know the answer.

a lot.


Surely you realise that the need of the hour was big hitting. As in just swing and hit big hitting.
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i disagree with underlined remark
the need was from ball 1...
11/12 per over does not demand "just swing and hit big hitting"
1x4+3x2+2x1=12. you need a smart game plan to score big.

Surely even you know Malik wasn't going to do that from the first ball.
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in that case, shouldn't he be sent lot earlier than 18.5th over?

It would have been criminal to send him in before Akmal.
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who ever made that decision to sending afridi and kami b4 malik should take the responsibility that both players failed to deliver expected result. (this has been tried several times with not much luck)

and as you are ignorant, let me tell you...in last 12 months, in t20i malik has been sent in 5 different batting positions... :facepalm:

at #4... 100% wins
at #5 ... 57% wins
at #6/7... 50% wins
 
Black Zero said:
at #4... 100% wins How about his average & S/R at #4?
at #5 ... 57% wins
at #6/7... 50% wins
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If #4 was such a great batting position for him, then why he didn't he bat at #4 when he was captain himself?????????????????? He had no clue what he was doing or.... you are again being best at your usual ABS?


Here.... his batting potions when he was captain!
 
Cannot blame him for today's loss. He isn't gonna do wonders in 3 balls.

And please don't make personal remarks about someone's wife at least. Don't care if she's a superstar or not : )
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Cannot blame him for today's loss. He isn't gonna do wonders in 3 balls.
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Great player.... shine at bigger ... in difficult situations.....

Nobody is blaming him for the loss.... but only naive people (or loverz) will not blame for the lack of effort. Here is what I wrote in another post;

20 runs needed in last over... and yes, it may be impossible but where was the effort? There were 18 overs in this where 10 or more runs were scored.....7 overs where 12 or more runs were scored..... What did Malik do??? 8 runs in the last over..with 4 coming from Gul's bat.... had he scored even 12-16 runs, I would have been happy that at least tried.....

That is the issue...
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speed said:
Yh great news malik will soon be captain God-willing, but I'm still not sure about his test match ability.
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Doubters... doubters.... doubters.....!!
BZ ... get this guy on the straight path by tell him what you told us ..... about Hanif Mohammad and Malik comparison?

If he can be best ODI and great T20 player.... why can't he be a great test player???? You think, he is an Afridi.... who will not succeed in test matches?
 
Cant believe he took that single to give gul the strike. But that being said i feel the game was lost by our batsmen in the first 10 overs, more specifically overs 5-10 when we only scored 10 runs and let part time raina sneak in 2 overs at economy rate of 6
 
Pak_legend said:
Cant believe he took that single to give gul the strike. But that being said i feel the game was lost by our batsmen in the first 10 overs, more specifically overs 5-10 when we only scored 10 runs and let part time raina sneak in 2 overs at economy rate of 6
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Why wouldn't you give Gulchrist strike? The SA slaughterhouse wasn't too long ago.
 
Why is this W63 so obsessed though? Malik played well, for once, appreciate it.
 
W63L35 said:
Why my posts are bothering you??? Are you Sania..sweety? ;-)
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BZ has the most posts in this thread because he is a Malik fan and the last time I checked this is a 'Shoaib Malik Support' Thread. You are second from BZ in the total number of posts and judging by your posts you are far from a Malik fan. It is you who have a serious obsession with Malik. You dont like him but he seems to be the centre of your world.

And what did you expect Malik to do in 1 over?

Are you telling me that if Malik went for a big shot from the first ball he faced and got caught on the boundary, you wouldnt be making jokes about it or make some other silly signature comment?

You were posting in this thread constantly before Malik even came to bat almost waiting for him to fail or not live up to his performance in the first game, just so you can prove some idiotic point.

And whats the best you could come up with? Malik had the lowest strike from everyone, which was a "pathetic" 100. Really? Thats all you got? :facepalm:

And arent you a diehard fan of the useless Afridi?

How many runs he made all series? How many wickets he took?

Surely it was worse than Malik's performance. Why no criticism about him? or some goofy statistical analysis which you love doing?

Say what you want about BZ, atleast he doesnt laugh at his own posts like he is missing a few chromosomes in the head.

Absolutely pathetic.
 
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Khadim Khan said:
And what did you expect Malik to do in 1 over?
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20 runs needed in last over... and yes, it may be impossible but where was the effort? There were 18 overs in this where 10 or more runs were scored.....7 overs where 12 or more runs were scored..... What did Malik do??? 8 runs in the last over..with 4 coming from Gul's bat.... had he scored even 12-16 runs, I would have been happy that at least tried.....

That is the issue...

Khadim Khan said:
Are you telling me that if Malik went for a big shot from the first ball he faced and got caught on the boundary, you wouldnt be making jokes about it or make some other silly signature comment?
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No. I am saying he CAN NOT hit bounders! Therefore he should be no way near any T20 team.

Khadim Khan said:
You were posting in this thread constantly before Malik even came to bat almost waiting for him to fail or not live up to his performance in the first game, just so you can prove some idiotic point.
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No.. I KNEW he will fail.... by the lay of probablity! Someone who have ONE good innings in 52 international innings.... ifs BOUND to fail in the one ...after a good one.


Speaking of idiotic points.... I am so amazed at your genius points... Mr. Newton!

Khadim Khan said:
And whats the best you could come up with? Malik had the lowest strike from everyone, which was a "pathetic" 100. Really? Thats all you got? :facepalm:
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How good are you in math, kid?
S/R of 100 means... and total of 120 runs in T20 innings. Go use calculator, if it too difficult for you!

Khadim Khan said:
And arent you a diehard fan of the useless Afridi?
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No. I am fan of MERIT... any player who performs and gets selected on merit.

Khadim Khan said:
How many runs he made all series? How many wickets he took?
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Afridi had failed MUCH less than Malik in last THREE years.
Read through this thread.

Khadim Khan said:
Surely it was worse than Malik's performance. Why no criticism about him? or some goofy statistical analysis which you love doing?
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At least I can PROVE my point with FACT & FIGURE..... rather totally retard rants of some stupid Malik lovers!

Khadim Khan said:
Say what you want about BZ, atleast he doesnt laugh at his own posts like he is missing a few chromosomes in the head.
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Who are you?? BZ's girl friend? I think, he is old enough to defend himself.... and is doing very fine job.

Khadim Khan said:
Absolutely pathetic.
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Here ..... look at this another goofy stat.... and see who is more pathetic.... your retard post or Malik's average! It will be a toss up, I guess!


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W63L35 said:
20 runs needed in last over... and yes, it may be impossible but where was the effort? There were 18 overs in this where 10 or more runs were scored.....7 overs where 12 or more runs were scored..... What did Malik do??? 8 runs in the last over..with 4 coming from Gul's bat.... had he scored even 12-16 runs, I would have been happy that at least tried.....

That is the issue....
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Tried what? He played a cut shot on the first delivery which would have been a boundary if the fielder didnt reach it. Malik didnt even get a chance to get settled in. Atleast he didnt waste any balls. Your acting as though he faced 30 balls, not 3.

W63L35 said:
No. I am saying he CAN NOT hit bounders! Therefore he should be no way near any T20 team..
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Scored a six to win the last game. Fail :facepalm:. Your probably one of those people who thinks you need to hit a boundary on every ball in T20s.

If Malik didnt bat sensibly in the first game and gave away his wicket by trying to hit a boundary every ball, you think we would have won? Would Afridi have guided us home? lol. Please

W63L35 said:
No.. I KNEW he will fail.... by the lay of probablity! Someone who have ONE good innings in 52 international innings.... ifs BOUND to fail in the one ...after a good one.




Speaking of idiotic points.... I am so amazed at your genius points... Mr. Newton! .
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Malik failed? News to me.

Note: Your one of maybe two posters who thinks that Malik failed in the second game. Most people dont share your pathetic opinion.

W63L35 said:
How good are you in math, kid?
S/R of 100 means... and total of 120 runs in T20 innings. Go use calculator, if it too difficult for you! .
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Find some other example where a player was bashed for having a S/R of 100 with having faced such fewer deliveries. I'll wait.

W63L35 said:
No. I am fan of MERIT... any player who performs and gets selected on merit.


Afridi had failed MUCH less than Malik in last THREE years.
Read through this thread..
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Whatever happened to looking at the current performance? I dont care about the last three years. Im talking about this series. Nice attempt to avoid the question.

W63L35 said:
At least I can PROVE my point with FACT & FIGURE..... rather totally retard rants of some stupid Malik lovers! .
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Facts and figures of Afidi's third class showing in this series urgently needed.

W63L35 said:
Who are you?? BZ's girl friend? I think, he is old enough to defend himself.... and is doing very fine job. .
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Who's defending? You need to learn the definition of defending. Im just pointing out something I have noticed about you two. One shows maturity and the other posts like he is wrong in the head


W63L35 said:
Here ..... look at this another goofy stat.... and see who is more pathetic.... your retard post or Malik's average! It will be a toss up, I guess!


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Why did you avoid this part of my post Ms Ayesha

BZ has the most posts in this thread because he is a Malik fan and the last time I checked this is a 'Shoaib Malik Support' Thread. You are second from BZ in the total number of posts and judging by your posts you are far from a Malik fan. It is you who have a serious obsession with Malik. You dont like him but he seems to be the centre of your world.
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If you could post a goofy stat showing a comparison of your posts in this thread and other threads on PP in the last two years, I would be delighted.
 
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W63 getting pwned left and right here both from Sixhitter and Khamid.

No highlighted statistics can reverse that


emclub said:
finally people are getting fed up with WL's obsession with Malik

#Ayesha
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We should all call him Ayesha from now on. It is well deserved after his years of obsession with Malik :umarakmal
 
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i'm pretty sure......most of us feel about malik + the loser company,.......just as WL does

but we don't feed those trolls, cause trolls gonna troll no matter what

and then he says, he is doing it for our entertainment ????

nahhh, there's definitely something up
 
I'm no big fan of Malik but one thing you can't take away from him is his record against India. This is one stat battle W63 can't win...

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Let's cut some slack on him, shall we? He is a nice guy who is stuck being obsessed with Shoaib Malik for obvious reason.

Take a break from this thread. As a friend, heed my advice for your benefit. I am supporter, but i barely contribute to this thread, and my contribution to this thread won't even cross more than 50 posts, Allahu Alim!

Don't take it personally, friend. It's not healthy to have obsession with player you hate the most, and quite contrary to supporters.

Don't get worked up on Shoaib Malik. I never cared about him for the past three years despite of being supporter. Whatever happens will happen under Allaah's Will. Why so serious all the times? Relax and Enjoy!:asif


Assalamu Alaikum!
 
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Ayesha 'W63L35' Siddiqui

Courtesy: Sixhitter

Always remember who called you Ayesha, Ayesha!
 
W63L35 you are obsessed with Malik. Seriously get over it dude. Almost in every thread, you have something to say about shoaib malik. You as a hater of malik talk more about him than his own fans do.
 
That's brilliant. BlackZero.

I guess Shoaib Malik is different man when it comes to India. Although, i do have the ODI series - Tour of South Africa 06. I don't know why people would think Shoaib Malik can't plan in green pitch. I was watching the extend highlight of that match, and from first to third pitch were flat track, and last two pitches were bowling friendly pitch where Malik has shown to be capable to bat in those pitches. There is a reason why he averages 50 in South Africa. He was out of form for the past three years since 2009. Who knows he will get back in form, and surprise us on the upcoming tour of Africa, Insha'Allaah! (i am not predicting)
 
MalikMohsin said:
That's brilliant. BlackZero.

I guess Shoaib Malik is different man when it comes to India. Although, i do have the ODI series - Tour of South Africa 06. I don't know why people would think Shoaib Malik can't plan in green pitch. I was watching the extend highlight of that match, and from first to third pitch were flat track, and last two pitches were bowling friendly pitch where Malik has shown to be capable to bat in those pitches. There is a reason why he averages 50 in South Africa. He was out of form for the past three years since 2009. Who knows he will get back in form, and surprise us on the upcoming tour of Africa, Insha'Allaah! (i am not predicting)
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Malik avg 77+ vs SA in SA (ODIs)

and in Tests vs SA, Malik has better stats than "others" ...(however those tests were not played in SA, he has yet to play test there)

As Malik rely on his fighting spirit instead of natural ability/technique/flair/talent etc... he is bound to produce above avg results....
 
One 50 after three years of constant failures and not a single score of 40 or above in any form and mediocrity lovers are having multiple you know what. Great he scored a 50. Umar Gul scored 60 odd in a test match in Eng. Should we pick him as batsman?

On his record against Ind YK has fantastic record against them trundlers but cost us the semi final of 2011 WC so that record does not mean jack when you consider his consistent failures in last three years and does not deserve a place same as Malik.


Malik is mediocre and always will be.
 
saeed-sohail said:
One 50 after three years of constant failures and not a single score of 40 or above in any form and mediocrity lovers are having multiple you know what. Great he scored a 50. Umar Gul scored 60 odd in a test match in Eng. Should we pick him as batsman?

On his record against Ind YK has fantastic record against them trundlers but cost us the semi final of 2011 WC so that record does not mean jack when you consider his consistent failures in last three years and does not deserve a place same as Malik.


Malik is mediocre and always will be.
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I do not know if you are aware that during last 12 months... SM got the highest avg vs major teams...

and that's after him playing at different positions (#5, #6, #7 and #8)

and if we see only wins then their is no competition...


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so we must refrain from spreading rumors
 
Sri Lanka isn't a major team.

Impressive that a minnow can reach four world cup finals in five years
 
Black Zero said:
I do not know if you are aware that during last 12 months... SM got the highest avg vs major teams...

and that's after him playing at different positions (#5, #6, #7 and #8)

and if we see only wins then their is no competition...


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so we must refrain from spreading rumors
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He only went past 30 twice

All in subcontinent
 
Black Zero said:
I do not know if you are aware that during last 12 months... SM got the highest avg vs major teams...

and that's after him playing at different positions (#5, #6, #7 and #8)

and if we see only wins then their is no competition...


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so we must refrain from spreading rumors
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Won games? What about lost games? Do they not count? How many 40+ scores does he have in last 3 years?
 
miandadrules said:
Sri Lanka isn't a major team.

Impressive that a minnow can reach four world cup finals in five years
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SL included just cut-out in the snap.

Actually it was Malik and Afridi who won us the "only" match vs SL (this year) after top order failed (as expected).
 
saeed-sohail said:
Won games? What about lost games? Do they not count? How many 40+ scores does he have in last 3 years?
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He got the best stats even if we include lost matches...
Bottom line: you do not have any excuse left!!!


I am giving stats of last 12 months...anything objectionable in it?
 
Black Zero said:
SL included just cut-out in the snap.

Actually it was Malik and Afridi who won us the "only" match vs SL (this year) after top order failed (as expected).
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Eh....NO

Afridi won that game. 52(33), 2-17 and a catch.

But I'm sure Malik's 27(26) was scintilating
 
miandadrules said:
Eh....NO

Afridi won that game. 52(33), 2-17 and a catch.

But I'm sure Malik's 27(26) was scintilating
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8.1 overs only 29 runs ...when malik arrived

in 10th hafeez also out (Sr: ~70)

basically match was over and in next 8 overs... these two players took the score to 104...
 
Black Zero said:
8.1 overs only 29 runs ...when malik arrived

in 10th hafeez also out (Sr: ~70)

basically match was over and in next 8 overs... these two players took the score to 104...
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Yes because Afridi scored 56 of 33. If your going to use this criteria, lets be true revisionists and retrospectively give MoM awards to those who didn't actually do that much.

You don't need to give me a break down, I watched the game and saw the respective performances.
 
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