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Should Malik be in the plans for the 2019 WC?

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I said it in the match thread, it's written in the stars. Malik can't fail against India.
 
Malik's already amazing stats against India have improved even more with that performance.
 
He did the job. Good pressure batting to stick with Jamshed until the end.

Got lucky, but made it count after. It was just our day in terms of luck for both Jamshed and Malik.
 
Well batted to see jamshed to the end. Not going to say he was lucky, a No ball is a no ball.
 
Got lucky twice, first with the no ball and then the lights...... Bogey man for India!

I thought he bowled really well.
 
Ayesha must have been waiting for Malik to fail.

She must be furious right now :malik
 
Sixhitter said:
Ayesha, I hope you enjoyed Malik's 4-0-9-0
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lol. I know he was on PP earlier on that 'Malik replaces Umar Akmal' thread.

He posted another goofy stat which no one cared about (I think everyone is bored now)

I think he's waiting for the right time to comeback to this thread
 
Lol since silly stats are sometimes used against Malik such as him having the lowest strike rate in the last T20 I guess its only fair to share the point that Malik had the highest SR and best economy rate ;-) ...

All jokes aside...good display today...selectors have proved us wrong this game with Younis and Malik being brought back...
 
saeed-sohail said:
Time to celebrate the great knock. 30 with two lives is mind blowing.
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Its a bit silly to use that argument...one life was off a no ball...so no luck involved there...and no-ones going to complain about Jamshed's luck today...so why complain about Malik...hey even Dhoni had some luck today...
 
Malik... good contribution..

Lowest E.R while bowling
Highest SR while batting

However he should come early to have a bigger impact...
 
Malik ne koyi **** jaadu kiya hua hai? Twice in three games!
 
Black Zero said:
Malik... good contribution..

Lowest E.R while bowling
Highest SR while batting

However he should come early to have a bigger impact...
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Not sure about that. Number 6 is possibly the hardest position in an ODI lineup as the player is either expected to hold the innings together or to finish the innings. He finished the innings very well today and so should be given a run at this position.

Still not sure if he can play this well on more bouncier wickets, against better bowlers but time will tell.
 
Black Zero said:
Malik... good contribution..

Lowest E.R while bowling
Highest SR while batting

However he should come early to have a bigger impact...
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Congratulations...!!!! :)


Time to update the famous three year stats then!
With this innings, he has left Harbhjan Singh, Rampaul, Hilfenhaus and Langeveldt miles behind ... in batting average.

Another innings like this, he can easily beat Parrera, Randiv, Parnell, Pravin Kumar, Bresnan's batting average in last three years.

BZ & I have faith! :)

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W63L35 said:
Congratulations...!!!! :)


Time to update the famous three year stats then!
With this innings, he has left Harbhjan Singh, Rampaul, Hilfenhaus and Langeveldt miles behind ... in batting average.

Another innings like this, he can easily beat Parrera, Randiv, Parnell, Pravin Kumar, Bresnan's batting average in last three years.

BZ & I have faith! :)

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saeed-sohail said:
He is surging up those charts WL.
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in ODIs, in last year, Malik avg 32 while Afridi avg 15 and YK avg: 22


http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...al1=span;team=7;template=results;type=batting

3 years stats are not gonna convince anyone...as who cares what he did in Sep 2009.
 
Riff said:
So being rightly called back after getting out to a no ball is a lifeline now?

Dumb post
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We must show some respect to SS's feelings..
in 1st T20I, he was trying so hard that it was not a no-ball again..

and now this happened again..

Nothing working for SS/WL
 
O snap..............Malik moving up them charts.........O snap

I believed in him......i believe

he ahead of perera, Bresnan and all those trundlers

this is it folks, this moment shall be remembered.........i call for a national holiday :yk
 
in_cutter said:
Who cares about stats as long as he continues to help Pak win.
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You need to understand that for some of these posters trying to prove a point by posting goofy stats is more important than seeing Pakistan win.

Im surprised no one made a fuss about Malik's s/r today :facepalm:
 
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Malik pata nahi kaunse jantar mantar parr ke India gaya hai, his luck has been unbelievable.
 
Khadim Khan said:
You need to understand that for some of these posters trying to prove a point by posting goofy stats is more important than seeing Pakistan win.

Im surprised no one made a fuss about Malik's s/r today :facepalm:
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Yea I know what you mean. I won't be surprised if WL has his bedroom decorated with beautiful, colourful Shoaib Malik stats (no offence WL :) )
 
LethalSami said:
O snap..............Malik moving up them charts.........O snap

I believed in him......i believe

he ahead of perera, Bresnan and all those trundlers

this is it folks, this moment shall be remembered.........i call for a national holiday :yk
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BZ & I believe in him too..... another 34* like today..... and he can over take Randiv, Parnell and Praveen Kumar's batting averages!
 
Would we have Mohali game with Malik?

If Malik was in the team for anybody in that batting line up in mohali. I think with Maliks record vs India the guy would have defo won us the game. He seems to perform excellent vs india for some reason. Regardless of his poor form vs any1 else i think we would be world champs if he was in.
 
w8in_4_0402 said:
If Malik was in the team for anybody in that batting line up in mohali. I think with Maliks record vs India the guy would have defo won us the game. He seems to perform excellent vs india for some reason. Regardless of his poor form vs any1 else i think we would be world champs if he was in.
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Just like he won us the 2007 T20 Final vs India ...when he was captain also??
 
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That's how you finish the game, Masha'Allaah! What a great finisher he is, Alhamdulillah! Our duas are with you, Shoaib Bhai!

Keep it up, Shoaib Malik. Insha'Allaah! you will repeat the same in 2nd and 3rd ODI. (not trying to predict)

Assalamu Alaikum!
 
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The last time Pakistan defeated India was in Champion Trophy 2009 - Malik century.
When Pakistan used to chase big target in Inzimam's captaincy, Malik has played big role on it.

Pakistan is starting to chase manageable target now, first in T20 and this ODI match now. Guess what? Malik plays crucial part in it. We have to admit Malik does play a vital role in chasing, Masha'Allaah!
 
Malik destrying India in style

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w8in_4_0402 said:
If Malik was in the team for anybody in that batting line up in mohali. I think with Maliks record vs India the guy would have defo won us the game. He seems to perform excellent vs india for some reason. Regardless of his poor form vs any1 else i think we would be world champs if he was in.
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By your logic YK should have won us Mohali game. He has three hundreds v India and averages 40+ with SR rate of around 90. But on the day he scored 13 of 31.
 
W63L35 said:
So three year stats are NOT going to convince any one but 10-12 year stats of Malik vs India will? :))

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=5413924&postcount=8474

Who cares?? Please tell me????? :))

O and by the way, these stats are from 2000-2009 .... OLDER THAN three years! ;-)
Who posted these 10 years stats? :P



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Either you go for career stats....or recent record (last 12 months)

Your table would not convince anyone as it starting with Sep 29th 2009... as you cannot construct a case on this table when Malik is performing left and right with bat, ball and even in fielding...
 
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saeed-sohail said:
By your logic YK should have won us Mohali game. He has three hundreds v India and averages 40+ with SR rate of around 90. But on the day he scored 13 of 31.
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Malik avg 130 vs India in Last 5 years..
and in wins 175+

June 2008 53
June 2008 11*
June 2008 125*
Sep 2009 128
june 2010 39
dec 2012 34*
 
speed said:
Bz what was your prediction for this series?
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- Two new balls, a definite advantage to Pakistan even on flat tracks.
- Ajmal and Gul not clicking and new field restrictions.
- Long Batting line-up of india going to click in next two games and if they bat first we will see 310+ scores.
- Pakistan is capable to 330 if they send azhar as an opener (he neutralized B.K. very well ) and Hafeez should come one down. (not gonna happen)


so all in all, in form (bowling) Junaid, Irfan, hafeez, (batting) Jamshaid, Azhar, Hafeez, Yk, Malik gives a clear edge to Pakistan.


bottom line: So I expect them to win at-least one of next two matches
 
Malik won this match.......just take out his score see how Pak doesn't achieve the target

228-34 = 194 = Lose = FAIL

:bow: :malik



















maybe not.
 
Great to see Malik performing well!

BZ, aren't you contradicting yourself by dismissing WL's stats from 2009 onwards but then using your own stats from 2008?

Black Zero said:
3 years stats are not gonna convince anyone...as who cares what he did in Sep 2009.
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Black Zero said:
Malik avg 130 vs India in Last 5 years..
and in wins 175+

June 2008 53
June 2008 11*
June 2008 125*
Sep 2009 128
june 2010 39
dec 2012 34*
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insurge said:
Great to see Malik performing well!

BZ, aren't you contradicting yourself by dismissing WL's stats from 2009 onwards but then using your own stats from 2008?
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I presented to address one specific question posed by SS:

Original Question:

Q: Could Malik win us at Mohali?
A: No one really knows, but point is that it could have improved our chances.

so presenting data around that period makes sense
(even if we consider career wise he got 50+ avg, 4 100s 10 50s)

WL's argument is that as Malik has got bad stats since sep 29th 2009, Malik should not be in the team.

but he ignores both his career stats and recent stats.
 
Dare I say it, but Malik will be confounding the stats warriors this season
 
When on form Malik is probably the best finisher in Pakistan. I would take Malik over Misbah in my limited overs team any day.

I do not remember Malik captaining really. How was he as a captain?
 
He was ok but I think players revolted against him. Giving him the captaincy at a young age was bad news for Pakistani cricket and I think it set his career back a bit, also his experience seemed to have made him bitter against some team members.

I liked him though he was decent. If he gets form back over a sustained period and is consistent with the bat (unlikely) then he can be in the running as our next captain.
 
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DeadlyVenom said:
He was ok but I think players revolted against him. Giving him the captaincy at a young age was bad news for Pakistani cricket and I think it set his career back a bit, also his experience seemed to have made him bitter against some team members.

I liked him though he was decent. If he gets form back over a sustained period and is consistent with the bat (unlikely) then he can be in the running as our next captain.
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Thanks. The thing with Malik is its seems he can only produce these knocks against India. I don't understand why he performs against one team and fails against others?

If only he could replicate his form against India to other teams.
 
W63L35 said:
Still you got 684 posts (the MOST) in this thread! :))


You imagine a lot things.... but why don't you put your money where your mouth is.... and PROVE IT!
I bet you'll take the first prize! ;-)


Still you got 684 posts (the MOST) in this thread! :))



So there no misconception about other players in Pakistan?
Why just the obsession with Malik? :))


Since you are also spreadsheet and number person, here are 39 thread with MALIK in the title and you being the HIGHEST poster in those thread. Keep in mind I did not list the "Malik" threads where you were not the highest poster. For example... I did not include this thread where you were only 2nd highest poster with 10 posts.
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=99696

So.. these 39 "Malik" threads count for your 1385 posts....which is almost ONE-FORTH of your ALL posts. Talk about OBSESSION! :)))
Seriously.... why?
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WOW!
This post and the table are sad.... Get a life
 
Pakistan can win the 2nd odi, only on one condition:

Malik to play at #3 or at #4...


he wont be able to do much at #7/8
 
Black Zero said:
Pakistan can win the 2nd odi, only on one condition:

Malik to play at #3 or at #4...


he wont be able to do much at #7/8
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:)))

Don't expect him to perform two matches in a row??????


These innings of the millennium were played at #3 or #4???

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W63L35 said:
:)))

Don't expect him to perform two matches in a row??????


These innings of the millennium were played at #3 or #4???

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low scoring matches....=> low sr... means (azhar,misbah, yk = ok)

high scoring matces ...=> target 320+ means (azhar, misbah, yk = choke the chances to score big)

need a player in the middle overs who score big with sr of around 100 = Malik.
 
Black Zero said:
low scoring matches....=> low sr... means (azhar,misbah, yk = ok)

high scoring matces ...=> target 320+ means (azhar, misbah, yk = choke the chances to score big)

need a player in the middle overs who score big with sr of around 100 = Malik.
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Really??? You are ASSuming that 2nd ODI is going to be high scoring game!

You are ASSuming that YK, MUH and Azhar have never scored in high scoring matches.

Plus... can you tell us if these triple 100s were scored in high scoring matches or mow scoring matches???

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Malik playing a gem. 18 off 20. Great rotation of strike.

I don't care about previous stats as long as he's performing now. He is performing now for Pak so we should all be happy.
 
Black Zero said:
Pakistan can win the 2nd odi, only on one condition:

Malik to play at #3 or at #4...


he wont be able to do much at #7/8
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Black Zero said:
low scoring matches....=> low sr... means (azhar,misbah, yk = ok)

high scoring matces ...=> target 320+ means (azhar, misbah, yk = choke the chances to score big)

need a player in the middle overs who score big with sr of around 100 = Malik.
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repeat...
 
Black Zero said:
Pakistan can win the 2nd odi, only on one condition:
Malik to play at #3 or at #4...
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So Malik bats at #6.... yet Pakistan win... even though you did not predict that.... but that would be only 13682nd time YOU ARE WRONG!!!


Read and learn the art of predicting....

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=5435486&postcount=3
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=5435507&postcount=16
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=5435509&postcount=18
 
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In retrospect, it was a pretty good innings

Did well to rotate to strike when wickets fell around him. Something which in the Indian top order batsmen failed to do and got stuck on the crease.

Got a wicket as well

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A consistent performer unlike ft sehwag. Good bowler on his day can tumble any side, Very Good batsman coming back to form, and Great fielder. Best thing about him that I admire he doesn't let any pressure get in.
 
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What people like Ayesha fail to understand or deliberately ignore that Malik may not be scoring big but usually his 20s and 30s comes during the crucial part of innings. His current number is not that of much where he come and perform straight away, either its a top order collapse or a late charge is required.

Biggest plus of Malik's batting for me is his running between the wickets. He is so calm and fast while running between the wicket. How often we have seen him converting singles into doubles.
 
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