Shoaib Malik Support & Performance Watch

[MRSN]

scored 94* today

 

[Mamoon]

He was removed from the number three position in ODIs where he was doing a great job and was replaced by Younis Khan, a very mediocre ODI batsman

 

[W63L35]

He was removed from the number three position in ODIs where he was doing a great job and was replaced by Younis Khan, a very mediocre ODI batsman

So you are more upset at YK replacing Malik at #3 .... but not at MoYo being removed from #3?


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[Mamoon]

Yousuf averaged in the high 40's at number 4 as well so it wasn't as bad a move as replacing Malik with Younis. Malik's strike rate was almost the same as Yousuf's, but Younis has been very poor at this position.

 

[Akmal Dynasty]

So you are more upset at YK replacing Malik at #3 .... but not at MoYo being removed from #3?


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Lol nobody moved moyo....the problem is both inzi and moyo were not interested in batting at 3. They both have a very good average at 3 but as soon as they became senior they ran off from that position. Inzi did the same thing.

 

[Mamoon]

Lol nobody moved moyo....the problem is both inzi and moyo were not interested in batting at 3. They both have a very good average at 3 but as soon as they became senior they ran off from that position. Inzi did the same thing.

Inzamam hid from the new ball all career so that he could feast on the trundlers in the middle overs.

 

[Black Zero]

we should not complain about #3/4/5 as these are taken by legends like azhar, yk and misbah to achieve great totals...

players like malik should be happy to play at #8


and win us matches...

 

[W63L35]

we should not complain about #3/4/5 as these are taken by legends like azhar, yk and misbah to achieve great totals...

players like malik should be happy to play at #8


and win us matches...

38473th pie on the face.... but who is counting.....

SS where are you....... when you are needed....


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[waqar_ahmad]

BZ owned again. But knowing him, he will come back with some weird logic.

 

[miandadrules]

38473th pie on the face.... but who is counting.....

SS where are when you are needed....


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Using BZ's logic, all this innings proves is that had Malik been selected, he would have scored a double century.

Of course, goes without saying that this innings does not classify as in "difficult" conditions.

 

[saeed-sohail]

The Shoaib Malik 'Support' Thread

BZ wanted YK to score. He rates him on par with Malik because they have similar career paths after 30 tests.

 

[saeed-sohail]

The Shoaib Malik 'Support' Thread

38473th pie on the face.... but who is counting.....

SS where are you....... when you are needed....


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This is normal meal for him. Now watch him go after Azhar and Misbah.

 

[W63L35]

BZ wanted YK to score. He rates him on par with Malik because they have similar career paths after 30 tests.

) )


See ....that is why you were "needed" here!

This is normal meal for him.

Three times a day... and even in morning/afternoon snack. Any normal person would get sick of eating same thing 5 times a day!

Now watch him go after Azhar and Misbah.

Maan.... he is so predictable!

BZ owned again......

As they say in Punjabi...... (I'll just write only one half........);

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[saeed-sohail]

The Shoaib Malik 'Support' Thread

Bohat din hue hain dekhe hue tujhe yaar. BZ bhai kahan ho?

 

[Black Zero]

BZ wanted YK to score. He rates him on par with Malik because they have similar career paths after 30 tests.

Right

both scored 100s..in their matches... (yk made 111 sm made 114)

however, YK could not play the new ball ...

 

[Fireworks11]

Right

both scored 100s..in their matches...

however, YK could not play the new ball ...

Come on mate give credit where due, it was a marvelous century by Younis!

 

[Black Zero]

Come on mate give credit where due, it was a marvelous century by Younis!

I am not anti-anyone

I will give credit if pakistan save/win the match...

30 in a win is better than 100 in a loss

 

[Fireworks11]

I am not anti-anyone

I will give credit if pakistan save/win the match...

30 in a win is better than 100 in a loss

Comment on the first day's play.

Don't you rate Younis and Asad's partnership? Dug Pakistan out of a hole, both were in early, under pressure and it was a fantastic partnership.

 

[Black Zero]

Comment on the first day's play.

Don't you rate Younis and Asad's partnership? Dug Pakistan out of a hole, both were in early, under pressure and it was a fantastic partnership.

good effort, however, only important thing is the result...

 

[SwingNSeam]

good effort, however, only important thing is the result...

Would you say the same had scored that fighting century?

 

[Black Zero]

Would you say the same had scored that fighting century?

Malik scored one today and secured three points for team, scored 90 in previous match and got another 3 points...

if your team lose, you lose...
i care less if he scores 20/30/60,...you need to deliver the result...

good effort...but only result will tell if thats good enough or not...

 

[SwingNSeam]

Malik scored one today and secured three points for team, scored 90 in previous match and got another 3 points...

if your team lose, you lose...
i care less if he scores 20/30/60,...you need to deliver the result...

good effort...but only result will tell if thats good enough or not...

But if one person or two are performing and the team still ends up losing because the rest of the team suddenly forgot how to hold a bat...how do we blame the 2 who did their parts and more?

But Malik didnt play against SA, and the way hes been going I doubt he would have made much of an impact (tests).

 

[Somali Pirate]

Wait a second. There are people out there comparing Younis khan to dar poke shoaib malik? Is this the twilight zone or summat?

 

[Black Zero]

But if one person or two are performing and the team still ends up losing because the rest of the team suddenly forgot how to hold a bat...how do we blame the 2 who did their parts and more?

But Malik didnt play against SA, and the way hes been going I doubt he would have made much of an impact (tests).

Malik avg 42+ vs SA..
Yes he is not playing as he is not even in squad...so why all this comparison and debate??

....

to answer your question, (though its irrelevant to this thread), we need consistent players,,,who can score ~45 75% of the times...instead of players who will fail most of the times but will score big 10% of the times...if you want team to win more matches...

to win/draw against SA, 4 out of 6 (66% consistency) top order should click (this means that team would score ~275 per innings)

so every batsmen is responsible to do his part...and here is the status:

NJ: 1/3
Misbah: 1/3
Yk: 1/3
Asad: 2/3

only Asad is doing his part...while others not...(interestingly, i predicted that Asad will be the most successful in SA tour as he is one of the consistent player in the side, though, historically speaking, he is not one who would score big)

 

[saeed-sohail]

The Shoaib Malik 'Support' Thread

Malik avg 42+ vs SA..
Yes he is not playing as he is not even in squad...so why all this comparison and debate??

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to answer your question, (though its irrelevant to this thread), we need consistent players,,,who can score ~45 75% of the times...instead of players who will fail most of the times but will score big 10% of the times...if you want team to win more matches...

to win/draw against SA, 4 out of 6 (66% consistency) top order should click (this means that team would score ~275 per innings)

so every batsmen is responsible to do his part...and here is the status:

NJ: 1/3
Misbah: 1/3
Yk: 1/3
Asad: 2/3

only Asad is doing his part...while others not...(interestingly, i predicted that Asad will be the most successful in SA tour as he is one of the consistent player in the side, though, historically speaking, he is not one who would score big)

Here comes BZ. Soooo predictable. Team is 1-0 down and 30/4 and two blokes score hundreds but you are not convinced. This is his 21st yes 21st hundred. Now if bowlers don't deliver or others don't deliver it's not Asad's and YKs fault. As for Malik scoring hundred in domestic so does Farhat so what's the big deal. If you think scoring a 100 against the #1 team away from home at 30/4 is same as scoring 100 against no bodies then you need to educate yourself.

 

[vandokkum]

Shoaib Malik is a batsman, bowler or an all rounder?

 

[LethalSami]

Shoaib Malik is a batsman, bowler or an all rounder?

a bit of everything.....bits and pieces

he's also a very good politician, he also has the ability to get into the team despite being so mediocre...

Not to mention, he has scored Sania Mirza.......probably the greatest achievement of his life

qualities to die for

 

[saeed-sohail]

The Shoaib Malik 'Support' Thread

a bit of everything.....bits and pieces

he's also a very good politician, he also has the ability to get into the team despite being so mediocre...

Not to mention, he has scored Sania Mirza.......probably the greatest achievement of his life

qualities to die for

You disappear too often. This threads lacks energy without you at times.

 

[vandokkum]

a bit of everything.....bits and pieces

he's also a very good politician, he also has the ability to get into the team despite being so mediocre...

Not to mention, he has scored Sania Mirza.......probably the greatest achievement of his life

qualities to die for

His only worthy performances have come against India, against top quality bowlers

 

[Black Zero]

Here comes BZ. Soooo predictable. Team is 1-0 down and 30/4 and two blokes score hundreds but you are not convinced. This is his 21st yes 21st hundred. Now if bowlers don't deliver or others don't deliver it's not Asad's and YKs fault. As for Malik scoring hundred in domestic so does Farhat so what's the big deal. If you think scoring a 100 against the #1 team away from home at 30/4 is same as scoring 100 against no bodies then you need to educate yourself.

who is saying its a big deal...? not me,...

winning/draw is the only important thing...


if farhat scores 30 and win the match/draw match for his team...good..otherwise...not good enough..

 

[LethalSami]

His only worthy performances have come against India, against top quality bowlers

Interestingly, Sania Mirza is also from India

 

[saeed-sohail]

The Shoaib Malik 'Support' Thread

who is saying its a big deal...? not me,...

winning/draw is the only important thing...


if farhat scores 30 and win the match/draw match for his team...good..otherwise...not good enough..

What was the point bringing Malik's first class hundred into this? What about my points about team performance. Show me one test that was won by one play .

 

[vandokkum]

Interestingly, Sania Mirza is also from India

Things might not be going great between them, he is taking out the anger on the field

 

[LethalSami]

You disappear too often. This threads lacks energy without you at times.

i put the E in E = mc^2

i'm too drained/depressed with studies (in final semester of B Sc in CS).....don't want BZ's posts to drive me off the cliff.

 

[saeed-sohail]

The Shoaib Malik 'Support' Thread

i put the E in E = mc^2

i'm too drained/depressed with studies (in final semester of B Sc in CS).....don't want BZ's posts to drive me off the cliff.

BZ is the resident comedian of PP. daily dose helps you relax.

 

[LethalSami]

Things might not be going great between them, he is taking out the anger on the field

plausible explanation.

she can swing objects faster than Malik, considering she's India's best ever tennis player, but that ain't saying much.......just like saying India's best ever PACER )

 

[Black Zero]

What was the point bringing Malik's first class hundred into this? What about my points about team performance. Show me one test that was won by one play .

Fact 1: you said today that I think both are same...and i added that coincidentally both scored 100 today..

Fact 2: its a shoaib malik support thread, so i think its fair to mention that he scored 100 today and scored 90 in previous match...and get good points for his team...
(adnan scored double(?) but i have not mentioned, asad scored 115+* but i have not mentioned, was waiting someone to bump asad's thread)

except asad all batsmen are culprit...let yk cross 66% consistency then we will consider blaming other players for defeat...

 

[SwingNSeam]

Fact 1: you said today that I think both are same...and i added that coincidentally both scored 100 today..

Fact 2: its a shoaib malik support thread, so i think its fair to mention that he scored 100 today and scored 90 in previous match...and get good points for his team...
(adnan scored double(?) but i have not mentioned, asad scored 115+* but i have not mentioned, was waiting someone to bump asad's thread)

except asad all batsmen are culprit...let yk cross 66% consistency then we will consider blaming other players for defeat...

Exactly the reason I brought in into the conversation and you said:

why all this comparison and debate??

 

[Black Zero]

Exactly the reason I brought in into the conversation and you said:

clarification:
comparison with yk?

sm is not even in squad...

have not played a match for lonnnnnng time...


i felt that context was missing...

yk failed in both innings in first match but no one asked about any comparison ...

azhar/hafeez failed 100% of times...should not we talk about them...?

 

[SwingNSeam]

clarification:
comparison with yk?

sm is not even in squad...

have not played a match for lonnnnnng time...


i felt that context was missing...

yk failed in both innings in first match but no one asked about any comparison ...

azhar/hafeez failed 100% of times...should not we talk about them...?

But isnt that was SS is doing also. Talking about ...so why differentiate when talking to me about it vs SS.

Also, Im with you with the hafeez and azhar failures...but both have been in good form off late (well maybe not Azhar- but he's still a solid test batsman).
But as a nowler Hafeez is needed, can provide more wickets vs maik.

 

[Black Zero]

But isnt that was SS is doing also. Talking about ...so why differentiate when talking to me about it vs SS.

Also, Im with you with the hafeez and azhar failures...but both have been in good form off late (well maybe not Azhar- but he's still a solid test batsman).
But as a nowler Hafeez is needed, can provide more wickets vs maik.

you seem sensible

while SS thinks that yk scored 111 against Malik

 

[SwingNSeam]

you seem sensible

lol good reply after a check mate

 

[Black Zero]

lol good reply after a check mate

historically we do the comparison before the squad is announced...

and discuss merit and other stuff...

once the series is started...it becomes (less) meaningless...

 

[SwingNSeam]

historically we do the comparison before the squad is announced...

and discuss merit and other stuff...

once the series is started...it becomes (less) meaningless...

There cant be any discussion on that with involved #connections

 

[ahmed778]

Shoaib Malik is the greatest Batsman of all time.

Just look at him i am sure he can score a Ton against any bowling lineup anywhere even if he stands behind the stumps.

 

[BakuGM]

Here comes BZ. Soooo predictable. Team is 1-0 down and 30/4 and two blokes score hundreds but you are not convinced. This is his 21st yes 21st hundred. Now if bowlers don't deliver or others don't deliver it's not Asad's and YKs fault. As for Malik scoring hundred in domestic so does Farhat so what's the big deal. If you think scoring a 100 against the #1 team away from home at 30/4 is same as scoring 100 against no bodies then you need to educate yourself.

Bhains kay aagey bean bajaa kay kia milay gaa........

 

[W63L35]

Come on mate give credit where due, it was a marvelous century by Younis!

You have much better chance at taking away a piece of meat from very hungry hyenas.....

 

[Asif321]

he should only play against india

 

[Black Zero]

do or die match for Sailkot..against Rawalpindi..(currently at top with 12 points and already qualified for semis)

other two teams (islamabad and khi whites) got zero points but still can qualify for semi..

Sailkot got 6 points with 2 draws (with 1st inning lead) in 2 matches...

if they draw vs rawalpindi they will have 9...which will not be enough...as match between isl vs khi-w can give one of them 9 points...and hence 1 win > 3 draws...Sailkot will be out of tournament...

this begs a question...is the point system fair?
or should matches be of 5 days duration?

 

[shakil]

Shoaib Malik is the greatest Bradman of all time.

Corrected.

Yes, he is greatest among all Bradmans of all eras. Past, Present and Future.

In fact, he is greater than of the Pythagorean temples.

 

[shakil]

Malik could have been our too bad he didn't focus much on his bowling

 

[W63L35]

do or die match for Sailkot..against Rawalpindi..(currently at top with 12 points and already qualified for semis)

other two teams (islamabad and khi whites) got zero points but still can qualify for semi..

Sailkot got 6 points with 2 draws (with 1st inning lead) in 2 matches...

if they draw vs rawalpindi they will have 9...which will not be enough...as match between isl vs khi-w can give one of them 9 points...and hence 1 win > 3 draws...Sailkot will be out of tournament...

this begs a question...is the point system fair?
or should matches be of 5 days duration?

Of course how can point system be fair.... it was designed and implemented to get Sialkot and Malik look bad, lose, & fail. Why don't you tell Malik to throw/fix the next match like he did a few years ago?????????

 

[JibranAnsari]

152 today , averaging 94 in QAE trophy this season!

 

[MRSN]

Malik could have been our too bad he didn't focus much on his bowling

but he become our Yuvraj Singh..not bad either...

 

[W63L35]

152 today , averaging 94 in QAE trophy this season!

Then let's keep him where he excels/belongs.....because when he comes to the national team, his average drops into teens;

 

[W63L35]

^^
86 boundaries in 56 innings.... that is less than 2 an innings!

Some of these tailenders have hit bounderies at better ratio than our Bradman!

Swann.... 212 boundaries in 103 innings..
Harbhjan.... 141 boundaries in 65 innings..
Bresnon..... 105 boundaries in 53 innings..

...and the sad part is... Malik is in contention for both ODI and T20s selectiosn for South Africa!

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...9;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

 

[speed]

Malik will do better than most in south africa.

 

[leatherface58]

Re: The Shoaib Malik 'Support' Thread

Malik has a Bradmanesque record in South Africa in tests.

 

[JibranAnsari]

^^
86 boundaries in 56 innings.... that is less than 2 an innings!

Some of these tailenders have hit bounderies at better ratio than our Bradman!

Swann.... 212 boundaries in 103 innings..
Harbhjan.... 141 boundaries in 65 innings..
Bresnon..... 105 boundaries in 53 innings..

...and the sad part is... Malik is in contention for both ODI and T20s selectiosn for South Africa!

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...9;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

Amazing stat this ..hahaha

 

[Black Zero]

do or die match for Sailkot..against Rawalpindi..(currently at top with 12 points and already qualified for semis)

other two teams (islamabad and khi whites) got zero points but still can qualify for semi..

Sailkot got 6 points with 2 draws (with 1st inning lead) in 2 matches...

if they draw vs rawalpindi they will have 9...which will not be enough...as match between isl vs khi-w can give one of them 9 points...and hence 1 win > 3 draws...Sailkot will be out of tournament...

this begs a question...is the point system fair?
or should matches be of 5 days duration?

Great that Malik has done it again...

do or die match against the best team (Rawalpindi was top with 30 points in earlier stage and now top at this round) and malik almost secured victory for his team...

http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-domestic-2012/engine/current/match/597613.html

got both openers out...

and with bat scored 150+ with the strike rate of ~140...
and team scored 430+ in one day...

extra ordinary...

unmatched player...

 

[saeed-sohail]

The Shoaib Malik 'Support' Thread

Waqei extra ordinary player.

 

[Black Zero]

Waqei extra ordinary player.

played 6 innings, 2 100s and 2 50s
avg 94+
taking wickets
captaining the team...

and as expected trying his best to win the tournament...

I really hope that final and ODIs do not have clash..

 

[W63L35]

^^
86 boundaries in 56 innings.... that is less than 2 an innings!

Some of these tailenders have hit bounderies at better ratio than our Bradman!

Swann.... 212 boundaries in 103 innings..
Harbhjan.... 141 boundaries in 65 innings..
Bresnon..... 105 boundaries in 53 innings..

...and the sad part is... Malik is in contention for both ODI and T20s selectiosn for South Africa!

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...9;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

Amazing stat this ..hahaha

Now the million $$ question is ... if Harbhajan, Bresnon or Swann were playing in QEA Trophy for Sialkot, would they average 94 or more?

 

[Black Zero]

they wont be picked for sailkot, however they can be picked for Pakistan test squad (for SA) ... (they just need a khi domicile sit :iqbalqasim


currently, Sailkot team >>> Pakistani current test team...

 

[saeed-sohail]

The Shoaib Malik 'Support' Thread

played 6 innings, 2 100s and 2 50s
avg 94+
taking wickets
captaining the team...

and as expected trying his best to win the tournament...

I really hope that final and ODIs do not have clash..

Yaar khelne do iss ko iss ke level pe. Kyun SA main mitti paleed karwani hai.

 

[saeed-sohail]

The Shoaib Malik 'Support' Thread

they wont be picked for sailkot, however they can be picked for Pakistan test squad (for SA) ... (they just need a khi domicile sit :iqbalqasim


currently, Sailkot team >>> Pakistani current test team...

What happened to SS in CL in SA?

 

[W63L35]

Yaar khelne do iss ko iss ke level pe. Kyun SA main mitti paleed karwani hai.

Pichhili 56 innings sey mitti paleed ho rahi hai....... dheedhoon ko kiya fararq parta hai??

 

[Black Zero]

What happened to SS in CL in SA?

pcb interfered

Yaar khelne do iss ko iss ke level pe. Kyun SA main mitti paleed karwani hai.

avg 77 vs SA in odis
avg ~44 vs SA in tests


last several wins (odis/t2ois) vs uk/india credited to Malik...

anyway, Malik is not part of test squad...so please secure a single draw vs sa...

regarding mitti paleeed...i predicted 2 years back (performance in sa vs sa) in this thread...about hafeez, misbah and yk ...

performance wise prediction came true...
only part missing...is that...now its up to players and selectors to demonstrate some moral courage and retire...

 

[saeed-sohail]

The Shoaib Malik 'Support' Thread

Did not YK just score a fantastic hundred coming at 30/4?

 

[Black Zero]

Did not YK just score a fantastic hundred coming at 30/4?

- Pakistan lost
- Even tanvir avg 54 in thatr match (tanvir is a tail ender)
- as soon as new ball came, yk gone
- he failed (as expected) in second inning
and Pakistan lost...

yk, failed 3 out of total 4 innings...

33% == Fail

 

[saeed-sohail]

The Shoaib Malik 'Support' Thread

- Pakistan lost
- Even tanvir avg 54 in thatr match (tanvir is a tail ender)
- as soon as new ball came, yk gone
- he failed (as expected) in second inning
and Pakistan lost...

yk, failed 3 out of total 4 innings...

33% == Fail

When talentless wonder scores a test hundred against Styen Philander and Morkel in SA let me know.

 

[Black Zero]

When talentless wonder scores a test hundred against Styen Philander and Morkel in SA let me know.

yk just did.

 

[saeed-sohail]

The Shoaib Malik 'Support' Thread

yk just did.

YK is pure class. 52 avg, 21 hundreds, 4 v SA. Two world class hundreds against #1 team in last 12 months. Talentless wonder has been dumped from test squad for good.

 

[Black Zero]

YK is pure class. 52 avg, 21 hundreds, 4 v SA. Two world class hundreds against #1 team in last 12 months. Talentless wonder has been dumped from test squad for good.

yk is a huge liability..
at #3 he failed to reach double digit 33% of the times...
good that he is pushed back to #4...

yes, yk and faisal and sarfraz and hafeez and misbah and gul
are picked on merit...

nice try...

 

[saeed-sohail]

The Shoaib Malik 'Support' Thread

Merit in your eyes= Picking Malik despite one decent score in 50 innings.

 

[W63L35]

Merit in your eyes= Picking Malik despite one decent score in 50 innings.

Here is the merit.....

. (stats as of Dec 29, 2012)

 

[saeed-sohail]

W63L35 quoted your post in thread "The Shoaib Malik 'Support' Thread" - PakPassion.ne

Here is the merit.....

. (stats as of Dec 29, 2012)

What more do we want? He is clearly better then Baidwan and Shuvo.

 

[Xoib]

YK is pure class. 52 avg, 21 hundreds, 4 v SA. Two world class hundreds against #1 team in last 12 months. Talentless wonder has been dumped from test squad for good.

what about your Golden boy Hafeez?

 

[LethalSami]

Here is the merit.....

. (stats as of Dec 29, 2012)

Why did you cut off the list at Shuvo???

why don't you want the World to see that Malik is better than those two and also the dozens of people you're hiding from that list...

Haters gonna hate

 

[Black Zero]

Why did you cut off the list at Shuvo???

why don't you want the World to see that Malik is better than those two and also the dozens of people you're hiding from that list...

Haters gonna hate

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...al1=span;team=7;template=results;type=batting