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Should Malik be in the plans for the 2019 WC?

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miandadrules said:
I haven't been able to watch any of the test thus far and I'm unlikely to be able to watch the rest of the series. However, it seems to be a good knock.

However, despite the 'Hare Krishna' like following Malik has developed it has to be seen in context. It was an attack that was rendered impotent after the first 10 overs and ill suited to the conditions. When your main threats are Ali and Rashid you should cash in.

Hafeez has been prolific in Tests in UAE but I still don't advocate for him to be batting up the order. Taufeeq Umar has a double century in the UAE too but both Hafeez and Umar didn't provoke such a hysterical reaction.

On one hand you have [MENTION=57576]MRSN[/MENTION] scoffing that 70% of YK's runs have been on flat tracks whilst being euphoric about Malik's innings.

We've been here before with Malik, and I hope the excuse later in the coming months that X, Y and Z have also failed so why single out Malik isn't used. X, Y and Z haven't had the hype.
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Because people overrate YK when they try to mention him in the leagues of Dravid,Tendulker and Sangakara who have scored in other conditions as well. If it takes bashing foreign teams in SC to get legendary batsman status than I'm sure Malik can get this status as well if he keeps playing for next 6 years as well.
 
MRSN said:
Because people overrate YK when they try to mention him in the leagues of Dravid,Tendulker and Sangakara who have scored in other conditions as well. If it takes bashing foreign teams in SC to get legendary batsman status than I'm sure Malik can get this status as well if he keeps playing for next 6 years as well.
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'Bohat niklay meray armaan lekin phir bhi kum niklay'
:ghalib

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MRSN said:
Because people overrate YK when they try to mention him in the leagues of Dravid,Tendulker and Sangakara who have scored in other conditions as well. If it takes bashing foreign teams in SC to get legendary batsman status than I'm sure Malik can get this status as well if he keeps playing for next 6 years as well.
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Younis Khan averages 50+ in England and 40+ in Australia.

His home average is 56 and away average is 52.

He has a century in every country except Australia.

He has scored a 170 in Headingley England.

He has one of the highest average for a Pakistani batsman in away Test wins.

He has five double centuries and one triple century

If Malik can achieve this in the next six years then hats off to him.
 
miandadrules said:
I haven't been able to watch any of the test thus far and I'm unlikely to be able to watch the rest of the series. However, it seems to be a good knock.

However, despite the 'Hare Krishna' like following Malik has developed it has to be seen in context. It was an attack that was rendered impotent after the first 10 overs and ill suited to the conditions. When your main threats are Ali and Rashid you should cash in.

Hafeez has been prolific in Tests in UAE but I still don't advocate for him to be batting up the order. Taufeeq Umar has a double century in the UAE too but both Hafeez and Umar didn't provoke such a hysterical reaction.

On one hand you have [MENTION=57576]MRSN[/MENTION] scoffing that 70% of YK's runs have been on flat tracks whilst being euphoric about Malik's innings.

We've been here before with Malik, and I hope the excuse later in the coming months that X, Y and Z have also failed so why single out Malik isn't used. X, Y and Z haven't had the hype.
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Good and balanced post. Some immature fan following of him is having a field day but no need to respond to that. It's much bigger in number than Afridi's club and attack in flocks. :P

You been busy? Your posts have been missed! ;)
 
Clearly was not good enough to be the second spinner. When he was made into one, due to unforeseen circumstances, he failed to make an impact.

Terrific innings with the bat though.
 
When your so-called quality spinner in Babar and the likes of Moeen and Rashid bowl rubbish, don't blame Malik for not performing well. He did not look out of place in comparison to the three genuine spinners. In fact, he was better than Moeen and Rashid.

Good to see that his critics have recovered from their nervous breakdown over the last two days.
 
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Mamoon said:
When your so-called quality spinner in Babar and the likes of Moeen and Rashid bowl rubbish, don't blame Malik for not performing well. He did not look out of place in comparison to the three genuine spinners. In fact, he was better than Moeen and Rashid.

Good to see that his critics have recovered from their nervous breakdown over the last two days.
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Haha, nice back-tracking. You were claiming that he is better than Baba Babar but he was bowling not better than Moeen or Rashid. Fortunately, he was playing for Pakistan and not against them.
 
Bilal7 said:
Haha, nice back-tracking. You were claiming that he is better than Baba Babar but he was bowling not better than Moeen or Rashid. Fortunately, he was playing for Pakistan and not against them.
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What back-tracking? you clearly did not catch the gist of my post: criticism of Malik's bowling today is invalid because the so-called superior spinners all bowled rubbish. Malik's bowling was on par with Baba's and I will definitely take him as an all-round package over Baba of today who has one skill only and is inept at that.

He wasn't bowling better than Moeen or Rashid? :)) Please, for once look past those beards. Both of them bowled crap while Moeen was a little better than Rashid.

Both Baba and Malik bowled much better than Moeen and Rashid. Its a shame that their beards always get in the way of your objectivity.
 
Malik's bowling was on par with Baba's
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Just stop right there. There is no way, Malik was anywhere near Babar. Yes, neither of them picked up a wicket but Babar bowled more than double the number of overs, had an economy of under 2, had two chances fluffed off his bowling and was generally, the best bowler on display today.

Enough with the beard talk, you're getting awfully annoying with that fetish of yours. Malik is a part-time option and was lucky to not be playing against his own batsmen, otherwise he would have been carted around.
 
I just sorted the threads by number of replies and Shoaib Malik threads comes at number 1 on PP with 11,200+ replies and second is Sachin thread with 9000+ replies.

Good job malik your have beaten even little master here with a big margin :yk
 
Bilal7 said:
Just stop right there. There is no way, Malik was anywhere near Babar. Yes, neither of them picked up a wicket but Babar bowled more than double the number of overs, had an economy of under 2, had two chances fluffed off his bowling and was generally, the best bowler on display today.

Enough with the beard talk, you're getting awfully annoying with that fetish of yours. Malik is a part-time option and was lucky to not be playing against his own batsmen, otherwise he would have been carted around.
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Babar was the main spinner today, obviously he was going to bowl more. He was poor and so was Malik.

There is no question that Babar is a superior bowler, in fact much superior. However, when it comes to overall package, we're better off with Malik because Babar is past his prime now and is a liability in all three departments. If Zafar or someone else steps up, we won't need Malik's services.

I have never said that Malik is a better bowler than Babar; my point is that playing an all-rounder like Malik over a past it specialist gives the team more all-round utility.

The irony of you calling it a fetish of mine; I am not the one praying that Amla scores runs against us so that his average is not affected because he has a beard; nor am the one making the pants argument that Moeen and Rashid bowled better than Malik but the latter was lucky not to be bowling to our batsmen; that is absolutely ridiculous.

Both Babar and Malik, poor as they were, bowled better than your favorite English cricketers. period.

I know you are livid and distraught that they have sucked big time so far, especially Moeen who got outperformed by Malik thoroughly up till now, but that does not mean that you should resort to nonsensical arguments to justify their performances.

Rashid has been the worst spinner on show followed by Moeen. Sorry to say so.
 
I didn't see this match since Malik's double; therefore can't tell much; but if he maintains his batting form, I see a role for him even in ENG/AUS/SAF/NZ Test as well.

PAK 'll have to go with 3 pacers in non Asian Tests, along with one premier spinner (Yasir). It's risky to go with just 4 bowlers, particularly for PAK with pathetic fitness level & not having any batting all-rounder (may be Haris/Babar can be developed into one, but not with Misbah Captain & WY as head coach). If Malik can avoid Umpires & can give 20 tight overs supporting Yasir, with this batting form, he can be part of the English Tour. However, miracle happens once or twice in life time - Malik got his one yesterday, better he should plan to bat at 6 in UK/AUS. 7 Tests, 150 overs for 8/450, 350+ runs at around 30 from No. 6 & a regular fielding spot at gully - I 'll take him to ENG & AUS.

In LO, it's a different story all together though.
 
Only spinner to take a wicket so far, another pie for the haters.

He has bowled admirably in this game, Babar has been the big disappointment.

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Mamoon said:
Only spinner to take a wicket so far, another pie for the haters.

He has bowled admirably in this game, Babar has been the big disappointment.

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Oh my god I dosed off for a few minutes and missed that! :facepalm: The one time something happens I don't get to witness it live. Babar should never play for Pakistan again, we bought him in past his sell by date and beyond a few good series he has been disappointing. I hope he doesn't play in the next test, bring in Gohar instead.
 
shaz619 said:
Oh my god I dosed off for a few minutes and missed that! :facepalm: The one time something happens I don't get to witness it live. Babar should never play for Pakistan again, we bought him in past his sell by date and beyond a few good series he has been disappointing. I hope he doesn't play in the next test, bring in Gohar instead.
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He is so lethargic to watch. No bite in his bowling, no energy. Nothing.

He is finished on this platform.
 
Chucker gets a wicket.

The difference between bending more than 15 degrees and not is the difference between Malik and Babar.
 
The only spinner to get a wicket is a chucker.

Otherwise all honest spinners have found difficulty on this wicket.

:babar
 
waleed88 said:
The only spinner to get a wicket is a chucker.

Otherwise all honest spinners have found difficulty on this wicket.

:babar
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Personal agenda lol. Thats why no one takes posters like you seriously. You should be on geo super
 
Yeah, sad to see that good Muslims like Moeen and Rashid have gone wicketless along with the honest Babar, but the chucker Malik picked up a wicket.
 
Mamoon said:
:)))

Another wicket for Malik.
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I got that one! I got it! Feels like I took the wicket, halleluya! That was a beautiful delivery, little bit of flight pitched it up got some turn; Malik is actually getting the ball to do a bit! Babar should bury his head in the ground.
 
shaz619 said:
I got that one! I got it! Feels like I took the wicket, halleluya! That was a beautiful delivery, little bit of flight pitched it up got some turn; Malik is actually getting the ball to do a bit! Babar should bury his head in the ground.
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Was a no-ball as well :amir
 
angrypathan said:
Was a no-ball as well :amir
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No it wasn't, he dragged his foot back before he released the ball, i.e. he was still in his delivery stride. It is unusual for a bowler to land outside the line and then drag it back before releasing the ball, but it is not illegal in that case.
 
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Honest Babar takes a wicket too. Happy now?
 
Mamoon said:
No it wasn't, he dragged his foot back before he released the ball, i.e. he was still in his delivery stride. It is unusual for a bowler to land outside the line and then drag it back before releasing the ball, but it is not illegal in that case.
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Oh okay, was just going by CI commentary for this one. Didn't know he hadn't released it until after dragging it back
 
Mamoon said:
No it wasn't, he dragged his foot back before he released the ball, i.e. he was still in his delivery stride. It is unusual for a bowler to land outside the line and then drag it back before releasing the ball, but it is not illegal in that case.
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All his deliveries are no-balls in my opinion
 
Good bowling from shobby. Best spinner in this game so far

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Mamoon said:
Babar was the main spinner today, obviously he was going to bowl more. He was poor and so was Malik.

There is no question that Babar is a superior bowler, in fact much superior. However, when it comes to overall package, we're better off with Malik because Babar is past his prime now and is a liability in all three departments. If Zafar or someone else steps up, we won't need Malik's services.

I have never said that Malik is a better bowler than Babar; my point is that playing an all-rounder like Malik over a past it specialist gives the team more all-round utility.

The irony of you calling it a fetish of mine; I am not the one praying that Amla scores runs against us so that his average is not affected because he has a beard; nor am the one making the pants argument that Moeen and Rashid bowled better than Malik but the latter was lucky not to be bowling to our batsmen; that is absolutely ridiculous.

Both Babar and Malik, poor as they were, bowled better than your favorite English cricketers. period.

I know you are livid and distraught that they have sucked big time so far, especially Moeen who got outperformed by Malik thoroughly up till now, but that does not mean that you should resort to nonsensical arguments to justify their performances.

Rashid has been the worst spinner on show followed by Moeen. Sorry to say so.
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There is no place for bits and pieces players in test match cricket. You pick your best batsmen and you pick your best bowlers. If you're lucky enough to have a world-class all-rounder, then you pick him too but unfortunately, Malik isn't one. He should be part of the team, not because of his supposed all-round skills but because he's a better batsman than Shan Masood and can open if needed.

It makes zero sense to pick someone with a bowling average of over 60 as your second spinner, when it is our spin resources that are going to win us the series. We don't need eight batsmen, nor do we need to play Malik in order to take advantage of his fielding skills, since he can sub in when needed. What we do need are our four best bowlers to be playing every test match.

If Babar is the better spinner, and even you acknowledge that he's much better, he should be our second spinner if it comes down to him and Malik. As it stands, Malik was never considered for the role of a second-spinner and Babar's competition are guys like Zafar.

Yes, you might not be praying at all but you keep bringing up facial hair in every thread, which has become obvious to everyone. What does Amla have to do with this thread?
 
With the performance of Shoaib Malik, now we know where Pakistan cricket stands on. If there is anyone who can give some competition to Cook, it is Shoaib Malik who could have easily scored 300 runs if it wasn't for multiple factors as explained before.

With the players like Misbah, Asad Shafique, Azhar Ali, we cannot dream big unfortunately. :facepalm:
 
Time to revisit your signature. [MENTION=1184]saeed-sohail[/MENTION] :jf

we will not miss a 'never will be' like Malik. Drop Him For Good.
 
Fallen King said:
Time to revisit your signature. [MENTION=1184]saeed-sohail[/MENTION] :jf

we will not miss a 'never will be' like Malik. Drop Him For Good.
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Lol forgot about that altogether. It will take more than a one off performance on this wicket.

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saeed-sohail said:
Lol forgot about that altogether. It will take more than a one off performance on this wicket.

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Fair enough. I was reading Misbah thread, but your signature caught my attention. I assure you that Shoaib Malik will make you change your signature. Sooner to later, you are bound to come to the dark side. All for greater good! :jf
 
Bilal7 said:
There is no place for bits and pieces players in test match cricket. You pick your best batsmen and you pick your best bowlers. If you're lucky enough to have a world-class all-rounder, then you pick him too but unfortunately, Malik isn't one. He should be part of the team, not because of his supposed all-round skills but because he's a better batsman than Shan Masood and can open if needed.

It makes zero sense to pick someone with a bowling average of over 60 as your second spinner, when it is our spin resources that are going to win us the series. We don't need eight batsmen, nor do we need to play Malik in order to take advantage of his fielding skills, since he can sub in when needed. What we do need are our four best bowlers to be playing every test match.

If Babar is the better spinner, and even you acknowledge that he's much better, he should be our second spinner if it comes down to him and Malik. As it stands, Malik was never considered for the role of a second-spinner and Babar's competition are guys like Zafar.

Yes, you might not be praying at all but you keep bringing up facial hair in every thread, which has become obvious to everyone. What does Amla have to do with this thread?
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Everything you said would have been acceptable, if you were not supporting a 'specialist' spinner with an average of 40 who can neither bat nor field. :sohail
 
This thread has gone awefully quiet.

What a disgraceful way to get out.

On a 79 mph short ball lolol.

Bradman's average has taken a hit hahaha

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Or maybe a sign of things to come.

The soft underbelly that Malik has been genuinely exposed here.

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Malik's PR campaign will have to come up with a nifty hashtag for his overuse in a Test Match side now.

Maybe something like #justiceforshoaibmalik
:malik

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Just a bad outing after a long time! Time for haters to rejoice after a horrendous time for them

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Let's see how he goes. That's never a good looking way to go out. But in a way it's good to understand the challenges that await overseas next year.
Having said that, I think he is mentally resilient enough to find a way.
 
Pete Rose said:
Let's see how he goes. That's never a good looking way to go out. But in a way it's good to understand the challenges that await overseas next year.
Having said that, I think he is mentally resilient enough to find a way.
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A fluke double hundred on a dust bowl means nothing(though 148 at columbo was a masterpiece but lets not live in past glories)


he is not suitable to test cricket. Get rid of him asap so that he can get more time to make dobsmash videos
 
Pete Rose said:
Let's see how he goes. That's never a good looking way to go out. But in a way it's good to understand the challenges that await overseas next year.
Having said that, I think he is mentally resilient enough to find a way.
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kohli could not find a way
smith could not find a way

there is no way that that he can find a way. Accept the fact.
 
Shouldnt have gotten out to that ball.

But he should get the benefit of the doubt, his body might have been hurting. Did more work than any other player in the match.
 
pacesensation said:
A fluke double hundred on a dust bowl means nothing(though 148 at columbo was a masterpiece but lets not live in past glories)


he is not suitable to test cricket. Get rid of him asap so that he can get more time to make dobsmash videos
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Some posters here are seriously deluded. How can a double hundred be a fluke people? In all seriousness even a 100 at no 3 cannot be a fluke. Leave alone a double hundred and that too a big double hundred!

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pacesensation said:
A fluke double hundred on a dust bowl means nothing(though 148 at columbo was a masterpiece but lets not live in past glories)


he is not suitable to test cricket. Get rid of him asap so that he can get more time to make dobsmash videos
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To call this pitch a 'halwa' is a badnaami to the halwa in my opinion. Since players like Malik can score a 200.

Malik is the ultimate opportunist and that is his nest trait out of all.

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umer187 said:
Some posters here are seriously deluded. How can a double hundred be a fluke people? In all seriousness even a 100 at no 3 cannot be a fluke. Leave alone a double hundred and that too a big double hundred!

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unemployment is a bane for pakistan!!
 
Malik's soft underbelly is exposed.

He should get ready for short pitch stuff otherwise his revival is numbered.

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Maybe we can just put this down to fatigue. But we all know Malik isn't a test match number 3. Number 6 would suit him better. Shafiq should be pushed up the order. He has had 5 years in the team and needs the experience for when Younis and Misbah retire. Malik will not survive outside the SC in the top,order. He is just a stop measure.


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Exposed again today. It's alright making big runs when it's flat but you have to do it when the going gets tough. Won't last long in England.
 
Don't understand the chest-thumping. Barring one or two, even his supporters have not claimed that he should bat at 3 in Tests and that that he will score bucketload of runs in England next year.

However, he has clearly proven his doubters wrong who asserted that his finished on this platform. He is and will be a vital player for us in ODIs in the next 3-4 years and Tests in the UAE/subcontinent.
 
How long will the PR train last when he finds such shameful ways to get out.
Best thing I have seen in the Test match so far, besides Shan Masood getting out on a similar bouncer.

Malik is pretty much at the same level as shan.

Even Shan got a match winning 100 vs Srilanka but failed on a bouncer in the last innings.

Malik was lucky he got caught off a no ball last time, even last innings he would've got out to a bouncer.

But then Malik fans will say he is our 5th bowler and not a no.3 batsman.

His 2 wickets in 35 overs will be mentioned again and the again to eternity coz he got Cook out lolol. They would justify his bowling performance for his inclusion in the side.

They won't consider england were looking for quick runs and saw Malik and easy target. Why would they consider that? That would be blasphemy.



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waleed88 said:
How long will the PR train last when he finds such shameful ways to get out.
Best thing I have seen in the Test match so far, besides Shan Masood getting out on a similar bouncer.

Malik is pretty much at the same level as shan.

Even Shan got a match winning 100 vs Srilanka but failed on a bouncer in the last innings.

Malik was lucky he got caught off a no ball last time, even last innings he would've got out to a bouncer.

But then Malik fans will say he is our 5th bowler and not a no.3 batsman.

His 2 wickets in 35 overs will be mentioned again and the again to eternity coz he got Cook out lolol.

They won't consider england were looking for quick runs and saw Malik and easy target. Why would they consider that? That would be blasphemy.



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There is no use arguing with u. Can u name one batsman in the world who hasn't got out in this way?

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umer187 said:
There is no use arguing with u. Can u name one batsman in the world who hasn't got out in this way?

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What kind of a question is that?

I can say this that not many players get out to an Anderson bouncer (on a docile UAE track) unless you are Shoaib Malik or Shan Masood.

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One has to look at how Indians treat Anderson on their home tracks whenever Anderson goes to bowl their.

He has appalling stats in unsupporting wickets. But our batsmen still find ways to give him wickets.

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pacesensation said:
kohli could not find a way
smith could not find a way

there is no way that that he can find a way. Accept the fact.
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Taufeeq Umar averages 70 in South Africa vs South Africa in tests. That's higher than any subcontinent player. What should I make of that compared to guys yk, Yusuf, and Inzi vs Taufeeq?
 
waleed88 said:
What kind of a question is that?

I can say this that not many players get out to an Anderson bouncer (on a docile UAE track) unless you are Shoaib Malik or Shan Masood.

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If getting out to Anderson on a UAE track is something to be ashamed of,then it should also be shameful to get out to a spinner in England,Australia,etc

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umer187 said:
If getting out to Anderson on a UAE track is something to be ashamed of,then it should also be shameful to get out to a spinner in England,Australia,etc

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Getting out to an Anderson bouncer.

79 mph bouncer. You have to be seriously better than that.

Shoaib has an awkward technique to play a bouncer because he usually likes to play cross bat.

He gets in a mess when he tries to avoid a bouncer. His bat usually stays up and his head goes down.

Remember a dismissal against Andre Nel where his head went down and his bat was up in the air. (2003 Test Match vs SA)The ball touched the back of the bat and when straight to the slips.

Malik has a historical problem facing the short ball so no surprises the way he got out.

He could've done better considering the pace Anderson bowls at.

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waleed88 said:
One has to look at how Indians treat Anderson on their home tracks whenever Anderson goes to bowl their.

He has appalling stats in unsupporting wickets. But our batsmen still find ways to give him wickets.

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His bowling average in India is the same as his overall average. What was the point you were trying to make.
 
I loved the news bulletin on this news channel which goes :

'Shaheen mushkil mai parh, pichli innings kay hero zero pay pavilion wapis' hahahahaahah

Sums up all of Malik's career in a sentence.

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Pete Rose said:
His bowling average in India is the same as his overall average. What was the point you were trying to make.
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I'm not sure I don't follow stats so closely. Remember Anderson not being so successful vs India in India as he is in England.

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