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Should Malik be in the plans for the 2019 WC?

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waleed88 said:
Getting out to an Anderson bouncer.

79 mph bouncer. You have to be seriously better than that.

Shoaib has an awkward technique to play a bouncer because he usually likes to play cross bat.

He gets in a mess when he tries to avoid a bouncer. His bat usually stays up and his head goes down.

Remember a dismissal against Andre Nel where his head went down and his bat was up in the air. (2003 Test Match vs SA)The ball touched the back of the bat and when straight to the slips.

Malik has a historical problem facing the short ball so no surprises the way he got out.

He could've done better considering the pace Anderson bowls at.

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Ya I remember that dismisal too. Was very angry at that time. It's true that he isn't the best player of short pitched stuff but many batsmen do get out unusually sometimes but when it is Malik so people speak about it more than what is needed

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2012/13 tour. Anderson has 12 wickets in 4 matches. At an average of 29, and only one 4'fer.

For a player of Anderson's level thats not good stats.

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umer187 said:
His avg is almost the same

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His stats in England would be much better to countries abroad. Thats how generally things work.

His stats in England would bring his cumulative stats down to 29 in my opinion.

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Well played. Nothing wrong in getting dismissed for duck after having much needed scored 245 runs. Good practice for other batsmen just before the second test. One thing i have learned that Shoaib Malik only performs when the team needs him. Better to save some energy for second test since his job is done for the first test. Now the rest of them should chip in as possible for the 1st team. Shoaib Malik is not the only one getting paid for the team. :jf
 
waleed88 said:
His stats in England would be much better to countries abroad. Thats how generally things work.

His stats in England would bring his cumulative stats down to 29 in my opinion.

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Dont walk away from your original point:
"One has to look at how Indians treat Anderson on their home tracks whenever Anderson goes to bowl their. He has appalling stats in unsupporting wickets"
 
Pete Rose said:
Dont walk away from your original point:
"One has to look at how Indians treat Anderson on their home tracks whenever Anderson goes to bowl their. He has appalling stats in unsupporting wickets"
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The original point was about an Anderson bouncer not being that much a hassle from batsmen in unsupporting conditions as compared to an Anderson bouncer in more supportive conditions.

I made the mistake of equating it to Anderson's general performance because I don't usually follow stats so closely since I am studying and posting here is a leisurely exercise for me.

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The way Misbah is struggling, if it wasn't for Malik's duck, we wouldn't have found out by now. This should make PCB's job easier now knowing the form of Misbah should confirm the rumor of retirement and start preparing Azhar for captaincy. :jf
 
waleed88 said:
I made the mistake of equating it to Anderson's general performance because I don't usually follow stats so closely since I am studying and posting here is a leisurely exercise for me.

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sure, no worries, we are here to help correct mistakes

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Fallen King said:
The way Misbah is struggling, if it wasn't for Malik's duck, we wouldn't have found out by now. This should make PCB's job easier now knowing the form of Misbah should confirm the rumor of retirement and start preparing Azhar for captaincy. :jf
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Yea Misbah looks finished.

This should be his Last Test Match series.

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I dont get malik hate. Had Malik not scored 245 in first inning we would have been way behind england and possibly gave lost. What did your legendary Misbah and YK do in first innings on a so called phatta?
 
Shoaib can fail for the rest of the series and he'd still average 40 for the Tests.
 
Hamzakhalid said:
I dont get malik hate. Had Malik not scored 245 in first inning we would have been way behind england and possibly gave lost. What did your legendary Misbah and YK do in first innings on a so called phatta?
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They failed but what are you trying to say here? Misbah has been a much better test batsman than Malik and Younis has been on a different planet. Do you also deny that this pitch is one of the flattest we've seen in years?
 
Malik probably 'll win the MoM (for his 35 overs as well), or may be joint winners, but for his good, he should drop down to 5/6. If the next 2 Tests are played on better wickets, I think he 'll pick few more wickets & score some runs more. He 'll never get a better chance to win a MoS in a Test Series - 350 runs, 7/8 wickets, for a 3 Test Series, why not?
 
The don is so classy and much better than the so called "team man" Saint Younis.

The duck showed that he knew the other batsmen needed practice.

What a player.

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great spell of bowling by Malik in a very very crunch situation..certainlly delaying Eng win..
 
like botham's test, i wonder if this test will go down in folklore as malik's test
 
anuk said:
like botham's test, i wonder if this test will go down in folklore as malik's test
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No, he is not a Test player.

Last time they made him Test Captain which cost him 5-6 years - if he plans for a long Test career, it 'll be his end of Cricket. Street smart but limited cricketer - should focus on LOs & in between play Tests as horses for courses.
 
Mamoon said:
Don't understand the chest-thumping. Barring one or two, even his supporters have not claimed that he should bat at 3 in Tests and that that he will score bucketload of runs in England next year.

However, he has clearly proven his doubters wrong who asserted that his finished on this platform. He is and will be a vital player for us in ODIs in the next 3-4 years and Tests in the UAE/subcontinent.
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One inning he fails and he is not batsman anymore or should be demoted to the down order. Clearly, haters are losing their plot. Shudder to think what would have been the card for England team if it wasn't for Shoaib Malik's extraordinary inning in the first inning. :))

Maybe he shouldn't perform in second test and see how Pakistan team responds without him as whole. There is no Saeed Ajmal, but there is Yasir Shah coming back, and fair to assume judging by the whole team performance in today's match, they could use all the help they could get. :jf
 
Hamzakhalid said:
I dont get malik hate. Had Malik not scored 245 in first inning we would have been way behind england and possibly gave lost. What did your legendary Misbah and YK do in first innings on a so called phatta?
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If it wasn't for Malik and his delicate soft-inning 245, Pakistan would have won. You are sadly mistaken. Don't you read the news that the limited flour on the market is getting expensive? :jf
 
Haroon786 said:
245/6 = 40.8

It isn't rocket science.
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I am not good at math. That says a lot for someone who know the way around economy shouldn't have.

Even though he got out at the end rather than remained unbeaten at the end of declaration? Thank for the math solution. :)
 
Someone please get rid of him. Its so annoying to see him getting out in this fashion.
Some of the most rational posters on pp are still praising him and giving excuses for him.
How pathetic!!!
 
Failed 3/4 innings now But its the manner of being out The lack of feet movement, fending off short balls Hitting the ball on the air loosely

Just isnt a test bat for me
 
Lol what a pathetic dismissal. Again expecting the SHORT ball and getting out to a full one.

What shambles. Disgrace to be a Pakistani one-down. Please bring back Azhar Ali.
 
Fallen King said:
If it wasn't for Malik and his delicate soft-inning 245, Pakistan would have won. You are sadly mistaken. Don't you read the news that the limited flour on the market is getting expensive? :jf
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I think Flour is missing from Malik's diet these days. Would explain the general malaise in his batting.
What a pathetic way to get out. Scoring 0,2,and 6.

His average is coming down since his 245. Only a few more ducks that it comes back to its traditional 33
 
Fallen King said:
One inning he fails and he is not batsman anymore or should be demoted to the down order. Clearly, haters are losing their plot. Shudder to think what would have been the card for England team if it wasn't for Shoaib Malik's extraordinary inning in the first inning. :))

Maybe he shouldn't perform in second test and see how Pakistan team responds without him as whole. There is no Saeed Ajmal, but there is Yasir Shah coming back, and fair to assume judging by the whole team performance in today's match, they could use all the help they could get. :jf
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3 innings played like a tailender. He's nothing more than a tailender who can't even bowl without bending his arm. IN SHA ALLAH he will be reported and that will be the end of this guy's career
 
Shobby will come back hard next game and score big Insh Allah. He's always looking to improve and get better, can't hate a guy who does that.

Can be the deciding factor this game too with his bowling when he have to bowl England out. His handy and underrated spin bowling will be Misbah's 3rd biggest tool after Wahab/Yasir.
 
I don't see how summoning me through MENTION is going to help here. I still stand by what i said about Shoaib Malik.

* Played first test after five years.
* Already performed almost Pakistan-top scorer against England in Test format.
* Saved us in the first entire test single-handedly at the absent of Yasir Shah.
* Proved that he can draw/win single-handedly in Test format.
* Already proven a lot better than Zulfiqar Baber despite of being part-timer.
* Was ready to assumed the responsibility of one-down position to cover Azhar Ali despite of presence of Asad Shafique and so-called world-class batsman, Younus Khan.


In first two test combined so far, he still averages 63.50 and is in the top four of Pakistani batting line in term of highest average. Also, average more than Hafeez who cannot even bowl anymore.

Target the ones that averages lower than Shoaib Malik. If Shoaib Malik is piece of crap, then what does that say about others averaging lower than Malik? :jf
 
AmmadYousuf said:
3 innings played like a tailender. He's nothing more than a tailender who can't even bowl without bending his arm. IN SHA ALLAH he will be reported and that will be the end of this guy's career
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And one inning he played like don bradman. Don't ignore positive thing too. That is positive especially for part-timer spinner who is playing in Test format after roughly five years without any practice. The more he plays he gets better.

Shoaib Malik is not chucker and that's why he had been able to bowl in Natwest T20 blast / County where the real drama started on Saeed Ajmal, bowled for Hobart Hurricane in Champion League where Hafeez bowling action was questioned, and played Big Bash League and CPL through out the whole tournament. Just now, he just bowled, and yet no discussion on his bowling action.

Saeed Ajmal and Hafeez are chuckers, and that's why they were rightly banned. But Shoaib Malik is clean spinner, and that's why he is legit to bowl. First test of last inning, he played vital role as part-time spinner, and kept the run tightened in support for Yasir Shah and Zulfiqar on the second of the first inning when they were leaking runs repeatedly.

The bottom line is he is here to say whether you like it or not. As Pakistani fan, you shouldn't be wishing like this. He plays for Pakistan too. Make sure not to let your hatred for Malik clouds your judgement. Okay to disagree, but wishing ill like this? That shows what kind of pper you are right now. We already that from the fans of Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir.
 
Fallen King said:
And one inning he played like don bradman. Don't ignore positive thing too. That is positive especially for part-timer spinner who is playing in Test format after roughly five years without any practice. The more he plays he gets better.

Shoaib Malik is not chucker and that's why he had been able to bowl in Natwest T20 blast / County where the real drama started on Saeed Ajmal, bowled for Hobart Hurricane in Champion League where Hafeez bowling action was questioned, and played Big Bash League and CPL through out the whole tournament. Just now, he just bowled, and yet no discussion on his bowling action.

Saeed Ajmal and Hafeez are chuckers, and that's why they were rightly banned. But Shoaib Malik is clean spinner, and that's why he is legit to bowl. First test of last inning, he played vital role as part-time spinner, and kept the run tightened in support for Yasir Shah and Zulfiqar on the second of the first inning when they were leaking runs repeatedly.

The bottom line is he is here to say whether you like it or not. As Pakistani fan, you shouldn't be wishing like this. He plays for Pakistan too. Make sure not to let your hatred for Malik clouds your judgement. Okay to disagree, but wishing ill like this? That shows what kind of pper you are right now. We already that from the fans of Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir.
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The more he plays the better he gets?

that's why he has scored 9 in his last 3 innings?

Aiming for 90 in the next 30 innings?
 
Fallen King said:
And one inning he played like don bradman. Don't ignore positive thing too. That is positive especially for part-timer spinner who is playing in Test format after roughly five years without any practice. The more he plays he gets better.

Shoaib Malik is not chucker and that's why he had been able to bowl in Natwest T20 blast / County where the real drama started on Saeed Ajmal, bowled for Hobart Hurricane in Champion League where Hafeez bowling action was questioned, and played Big Bash League and CPL through out the whole tournament. Just now, he just bowled, and yet no discussion on his bowling action.

Saeed Ajmal and Hafeez are chuckers, and that's why they were rightly banned. But Shoaib Malik is clean spinner, and that's why he is legit to bowl. First test of last inning, he played vital role as part-time spinner, and kept the run tightened in support for Yasir Shah and Zulfiqar on the second of the first inning when they were leaking runs repeatedly.

The bottom line is he is here to say whether you like it or not. As Pakistani fan, you shouldn't be wishing like this. He plays for Pakistan too. Make sure not to let your hatred for Malik clouds your judgement. Okay to disagree, but wishing ill like this? That shows what kind of pper you are right now. We already that from the fans of Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir.
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Yes, had a great 240+ partnership with the road, Masha'Allah. :amla

Bradman-esque definitely. :bow: :bow: :bow:
 
AmmadYousuf said:
No idea, only been here a day

Registered after reading how great Malik is, and how he should be at #6, and we should move our entire batting order to accommodate the ATG, especially with Azhar returning

So for him, we move Azhar to opener, Younis to 3, Shafiq to 4.
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The reason why Malik has been picked is because of the utility he offers with the ball, not because he is a better Test batsman than the other options in the squad.

If we go back over the past year or so, we have always played with 4 bowlers + Hafeez. The last Test against SL was played without Hafeez, and Azhar filled in a few overs. I think the management views Azhar as a decent 5th bowling option, even though he is a leggie which means he is not likely to offer much control. However, Azhar's loss meant that there was no decent part-time option even, with the likes of Shafiq bowling VERY sparingly even in FC cricket.

With the loss of Azhar for this series, we needed a 5th bowler. The other option in the squad was Fawad, who can also bowl decently, but he is the same type of bowler as the rest; i.e. they all turn it away from the right-handed batsman. I think this worked in Malik's favour and thus he was picked. Plus, he has a lot of experience bowling in different situations and with Babar not in great form, we were always going to be requiring a 5th bowling option.

Now the problem here has been the mistake regarding the batting order. The management has tried to fit a square peg in a round hole by batting Malik at #3. You would not choose Abdul Razzaq or Shahid Afridi in Test matches and make them bat at #3. The obvious thing to do was to put Shafiq at #3, as that is where he bats for his FC team. However, we chose to play around with the #3 spot by putting someone there who has hardly played any 5-day cricket over the past few years, has virtually no pedigree as a top order Test batsman, and who struggles against pace/swing. The new ball is harder and thus comes faster to the batsman, so the old ball is easier to face. This is why #3 is for specialists only, and logic dictates that you put the specialist #3 at #3.

This is not about 'moving around the line-up to accommodate an ATG' but rather about the circumstances of the situation. Fawad is not a #3 batsman either (usually bat at #4-5 in FC cricket), so playing him directly instead of Malik at #3 is not a solution. We could have played Shehzad, with Hafeez at #3, but the bowling option would not be available.

Azhar should be available for the last Test, so Malik may lose his spot. But Shan's performances have ensured that his position is shakier than Malik's. If Malik performs well with the ball in the last innings, then the management will probably just replace Shan with Azhar and leave the rest of the line-up as it is; if they do so, they deserve the blame for not having the intelligence to take the obvious choice as mentioned earlier.

Most people on PP were against the idea of Malik playing Tests barring a few, and I don't think anyone advocated him playing as a #3 batsman. I doubt they have altered their opinions.
 
miandadrules said:
The more he plays the better he gets?

that's why he has scored 9 in his last 3 innings?

Aiming for 90 in the next 30 innings?
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If he hasn't played Test format, he wouldn't have scored 245 runs too. The reason he scored 245 runs because he was given a chance to play in Test format. The more he plays the more he will give you endless 245, and who knows maybe 300 runs in England next year? Your sarcasm on Malik did turn out to be truth knowing his 245 runs, and given your faith on Malik, he will score 300 runs in England next year, God Willing. :jf
 
Fallen King said:
If he hasn't played Test format, he wouldn't have scored 245 runs too. The reason he scored 245 runs because he was given a chance to play in Test format. The more he plays the more he will give you endless 245, and who knows maybe 300 runs in England next year? Your sarcasm on Malik did turn out to be truth knowing his 245 runs, and given your faith on Malik, he will score 300 runs in England next year, God Willing. :jf
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The more he plays the better he gets and that's why he has scored 9 in 3 innings?
 
Fallen King said:
If he hasn't played Test format, he wouldn't have scored 245 runs too. The reason he scored 245 runs because he was given a chance to play in Test format. The more he plays the more he will give you endless 245, and who knows maybe 300 runs in England next year? Your sarcasm on Malik did turn out to be truth knowing his 245 runs, and given your faith on Malik, he will score 300 runs in England next year, God Willing. :jf
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Malik was getting the cramps at 230-240 and started slogging to avoid running so him getting 300 is very unrealistic, especially in England.

But who am I to tell you otherwise.
 
WC-Passion said:
Malik was getting the cramps at 230-240 and started slogging to avoid running so him getting 300 is very unrealistic, especially in England.

But who am I to tell you otherwise.
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He's predicting a Malik triple century in England next year.
 
WC-Passion said:
Malik was getting the cramps at 230-240 and started slogging to avoid running so him getting 300 is very unrealistic, especially in England.

But who am I to tell you otherwise.
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I didn't think he would go that far. Playing in heat for more than 10 hours in his first time may have gotten to him. That's why he needs to play more to get better and fitter. It takes practice to get better with confident and fitter as long as he plays Test format. Coming back after roughly five years without any practice in Test format was asking too much. But he did it while he could.

If the pitch is flat bounce like 2006 in England, he can score 300 runs easily if he manages to dock the short ball timely. If the pitch is anything like 2010, everyone is going to fail let alone Malik. :jf
 
Fallen King said:
I didn't think he would go that far. Playing in heat for more than 10 hours in his first time may have gotten to him. That's why he needs to play more to get better and fitter. It takes practice to get better with confident and fitter as long as he plays Test format. Coming back after roughly five years without any practice in Test format was asking too much. But he did it while he could.

If the pitch is flat bounce like 2006 in England, he can score 300 runs easily if he manages to dock the short ball timely. If the pitch is anything like 2010, everyone is going to fail let alone Malik. :jf
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Is that the year Malik averaged 4.00 in the 4 innings he played at a SR of 43?

Must have been very flat.
 
Fallen King said:
I didn't think he would go that far. Playing in heat for more than 10 hours in his first time may have gotten to him. That's why he needs to play more to get better and fitter. It takes practice to get better with confident and fitter as long as he plays Test format. Coming back after roughly five years without any practice in Test format was asking too much. But he did it while he could.

If the pitch is flat bounce like 2006 in England, he can score 300 runs easily if he manages to dock the short ball timely. If the pitch is anything like 2010, everyone is going to fail let alone Malik. :jf
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In 2006, Malik failed...

I think Professor and Inzi were the ones who did well IIRC.
 
WC-Passion said:
In 2006, Malik failed...

I think Professor and Inzi were the ones who did well IIRC.
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He didn't play in Test format. Came back to ODI format directly as opener out of nowhere from injury.

But in the same year, he did make it up for the tour of South Africa averaged above 50 where most players failed except in flat track, 2nd ODI, 2006.
 
Fallen King said:
He didn't play in Test format. Came back to ODI format directly as opener out of nowhere from injury.

But in the same year, he did make it up for the tour of South Africa averaged above 50 where most players failed except in flat track, 2nd ODI, 2006.
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I thought the SA series happened in 2007?
 
Fallen King said:
And one inning he played like don bradman. Don't ignore positive thing too. That is positive especially for part-timer spinner who is playing in Test format after roughly five years without any practice. The more he plays he gets better.

Shoaib Malik is not chucker and that's why he had been able to bowl in Natwest T20 blast / County where the real drama started on Saeed Ajmal, bowled for Hobart Hurricane in Champion League where Hafeez bowling action was questioned, and played Big Bash League and CPL through out the whole tournament. Just now, he just bowled, and yet no discussion on his bowling action.

Saeed Ajmal and Hafeez are chuckers, and that's why they were rightly banned. But Shoaib Malik is clean spinner, and that's why he is legit to bowl. First test of last inning, he played vital role as part-time spinner, and kept the run tightened in support for Yasir Shah and Zulfiqar on the second of the first inning when they were leaking runs repeatedly.

The bottom line is he is here to say whether you like it or not. As Pakistani fan, you shouldn't be wishing like this. He plays for Pakistan too. Make sure not to let your hatred for Malik clouds your judgement. Okay to disagree, but wishing ill like this? That shows what kind of pper you are right now. We already that from the fans of Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir.
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I want Malik reported because I hate cheating. IN SHA ALLAH, he will be reported

Also, I hate Malik because
Shoaib Malik has been given a one-Test ban after he admitted deliberately losing the domestic Twenty20 match between Sialkot Stallions and Karachi Zebras. He engineered the result so that Sialkot lost the match
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http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/208490.html

Such a player should never be allowed to play, who knows what else he does? He has already been reported once for chucking. He's a terrible batsman, even Farhat is better, averages 8 in England and is shameless to boot
 
If we need an all rounder, bring in Afridi, he scores vital runs, has a good average, is a better player and can hit big sixes. Who can replicate that attack on India, his many match winning innings against Australia? Bring back Afridi for Malik and make him captain, because of his attacking nature, we'll win even more games.
 
AmmadYousuf said:
I want Malik reported because I hate cheating. IN SHA ALLAH, he will be reported

Also, I hate Malik because

http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/208490.html

Such a player should never be allowed to play, who knows what else he does? He has already been reported once for chucking. He's a terrible batsman, even Farhat is better, averages 8 in England and is shameless to boot
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You want him reported because you think he is cheating? Good thing that he is still playing and bowling, that way you can analyze his bowling action while you can. If i were you, i wouldn't get hope up.

This incident? Again this has been debated to death. Too lazy to go all over again. So he is cheater for your sake, happy now? :jf
 
WC-Passion said:
In all seriousness, I think Malik would fancy his chances against Australia.

I think if they use the same time of pitches as they did in the 2015 WC he will have a field day.
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Ironically, he did score fifty in his last tour of Australia. He loves flat bounce if not facing short balls. He will be playing the whole next year. That way we can make informed statements about his performance once and for all.
 
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some of you are on last warnings- others are now on our list

Good Luck - and dont reply to this post.
 
WC-Passion said:
Malik was getting the cramps at 230-240 and started slogging to avoid running so him getting 300 is very unrealistic, especially in England.

But who am I to tell you otherwise.
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Haven't been here for a few days so I don't know what is going on but I saw this comment and thouight I should reply.
Bro, u do understand that he was playing a test match after 5 years,right? That too in the heat of UAE
 
Shoaib Malik mustn't play test cricket

Although a lot of our players will fail abroad, on any pitch a decent delivery and any pacer who can generate some bounce or movement will get Malik and for that reason he must avoid test cricket.
 
MRSN said:
Because people overrate YK when they try to mention him in the leagues of Dravid,Tendulker and Sangakara who have scored in other conditions as well. If it takes bashing foreign teams in SC to get legendary batsman status than I'm sure Malik can get this status as well if he keeps playing for next 6 years as well.
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lmao what the heck< Ive heard it all

no wonder [MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION] has a special term for Malik fan group

funny thing is i would consider myself a fan too generally but this is sth else
 
umer187 said:
Haven't been here for a few days so I don't know what is going on but I saw this comment and thouight I should reply.
Bro, u do understand that he was playing a test match after 5 years,right? That too in the heat of UAE
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Convenient excuse.

Is this the new mantra?
 
This is getting ridiculous now. One look at Malik, and you know he's not Test material at all. Seems like a great guy and all, but we don't need great guys in the team, we need great cricketers and he isn't, at least in the test arena.
 
umer187 said:
Haven't been here for a few days so I don't know what is going on but I saw this comment and thouight I should reply.
Bro, u do understand that he was playing a test match after 5 years,right? That too in the heat of UAE
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How does heat relate to having cramps? :13:
 
WC-Passion said:
How does heat relate to having cramps? :13:
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Heat absorbs moisture from body, which may result in to muscle cramps. Also, cramps do take place for some irregularities in blood circulation - in games where you wear special gears (like cricket pad, box, Hockey GK, baseball catcher....), sometimes due to strapping for long time, you might suffer cramps.

Cramps (or heat fatigue) actually don't determine the fitness level always. Obviously, someone like Inzi or MoYo 'll throw their wicket after few hours in heat while YK once batted for 11 hours in Karachi in March, after 2 days of fielding and then fielded again. Last night Faf got cramped for just about 2 hours work in Mumbai heat, though these Proteas cricketers are extremely fit. Worst I have heard is Dean Jones - he batted for 10 hours in Chennai & lost 12lbs of weight & few ounces of blood through vomiting.

Physically it was a great effort for Malik at Abu Dhabi, because I don't think he had ever batted that long in his career.
 
MMHS said:
Heat absorbs moisture from body, which may result in to muscle cramps. Also, cramps do take place for some irregularities in blood circulation - in games where you wear special gears (like cricket pad, box, Hockey GK, baseball catcher....), sometimes due to strapping for long time, you might suffer cramps.

Cramps (or heat fatigue) actually don't determine the fitness level always. Obviously, someone like Inzi or MoYo 'll throw their wicket after few hours in heat while YK once batted for 11 hours in Karachi in March, after 2 days of fielding and then fielded again. Last night Faf got cramped for just about 2 hours work in Mumbai heat, though these Proteas cricketers are extremely fit. Worst I have heard is Dean Jones - he batted for 10 hours in Chennai & lost 12lbs of weight & few ounces of blood through vomiting.

Physically it was a great effort for Malik at Abu Dhabi, because I don't think he had ever batted that long in his career.
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Okay that makes more sense. I think that Malik might be fit enough to get 300 in England but there is no way he's going to do it with his crooked technique.
 
Zulfi Baba is looking like our best bowler right now while Malik is trying to keep the runs down by bowling around the wicket.
 
MMHS said:
No, he is not a Test player.

Last time they made him Test Captain which cost him 5-6 years - if he plans for a long Test career, it 'll be his end of Cricket. Street smart but limited cricketer - should focus on LOs & in between play Tests as horses for courses.
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A forgettable match for SM. I am sure this is going to hurt his future prospect. PAK cricket is all about instant decision - if YK can make an ODI comeback for his Test performance, I 'll not be surprised to see Malik dropped from ODI/T20 for his Test performance.

PAK doesn't have any Test in UAE in 1+ year : smart tips for Malik - man, retire from Test, at least temporarily, if you want to play CT2017.

However, he was under bowled in 4th innings, probably because Babar bowled exceptionally tight & pacers did give vital break throughs. At this rate, Malik 'll be stuck to a specialist No. 3 ONLY role - scary, very scary situation (if I were in Malik's shoe).
 
Rough match for Malik and his fans. He was our worst player in this match and hopefully will be dropped for the next test as he is a TTF in this format.
 
Haters are going to point out with 9 runs and figures of 14-3-47-0 coupled with no catches probably means he contributed the least of all 22 players that took the field. Haters will highlight that we won without the GOAT making a single contribution in each of the 5 days suggesting that he adds nothing to the team.

But haters won't mention that we won purely because of Malik's mind, dubbed the best in Pakistan cricket. The way he used the bowlers and manipulated the fielders to choke the English batsmen was a masterclass in captaincy. Watching this reminded me of his first stint as captain, when he showed his greatness by reining in the young, wayward and erratic Imran Khan at Adelaide to lead us to our first ever series win in Australia.

Simply the GOAT!

I feel confident the Hare Krishnas are working tirelessly composing a lullaby that is fit for a King and a dance routine that will keep Don Malik's spirit sky high for the next match.
 
MMHS said:
A forgettable match for SM. I am sure this is going to hurt his future prospect. PAK cricket is all about instant decision - if YK can make an ODI comeback for his Test performance, I 'll not be surprised to see Malik dropped from ODI/T20 for his Test performance.

PAK doesn't have any Test in UAE in 1+ year : smart tips for Malik - man, retire from Test, at least temporarily, if you want to play CT2017.

However, he was under bowled in 4th innings, probably because Babar bowled exceptionally tight & pacers did give vital break throughs. At this rate, Malik 'll be stuck to a specialist No. 3 ONLY role - scary, very scary situation (if I were in Malik's shoe).
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Come on MMHS you're better than this. The selection of Younis is obviously just to give him a good farewell series. :yk
 
WC-Passion said:
Come on MMHS you're better than this. The selection of Younis is obviously just to give him a good farewell series. :yk
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How do you know? He is in great touch & he 'll bat at 4 (as Misbah is not there) - what if he gets a 100 & decline to quit? PAK media 'll create mayhem if he is dropped after that.

I 'll buy that good bye staff, if YK declares officially that he is going to retire from ODI after English tour.
 
Just heard Boycott's podcast on Test Match Special. He called Malik a very average player. I wonder what Malik fans think about that. :13:
 
The_KING said:
Just heard Boycott's podcast on Test Match Special. He called Malik a very average player. I wonder what Malik fans think about that. :13:
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What does Boycott know about cricket?

He's just jealous that the ECB are going to hire Malik as director of cricket once he retires instead of Boycott.
 
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