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Should Malik be in the plans for the 2019 WC?

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Fantastic knock. The best ive seen from him.. His best knock under pressure
 
He is not world class but more than good enough for this team in Limited Overs.

Can build partnerships and rotates the strike well.
 
Great bowling by Malik.. Prime candidate for Man of the Match if Pakistan wins
 
Shoaib Malik's Asia Cup = hit the winning run against SL, took an important wicket in the same match which probably stopped SL getting another 10-20 runs; rescued his side's innings vs Bangladesh and took an important wicket; a brilliant match winning innings vs the UAE where he hit the winning runs. Sure against India he failed but that pitch was a bowlers dream.

Asia cup batting average 60.50.
Asia cup bowling average 9.5 with an economy rate of 6.33.

And coming into this tournament there were people doubting him just because he didn't perform in some tamasha fun cricket league!
[MENTION=65183]freelance_cricketer[/MENTION] you must be over the moon bhai?
 
Gabbar Singh said:
Shoaib Malik's Asia Cup = hit the winning run against SL, took an important wicket in the same match which probably stopped SL getting another 10-20 runs; rescued his side's innings vs Bangladesh and took an important wicket; a brilliant match winning innings vs the UAE where he hit the winning runs. Sure against India he failed but that pitch was a bowlers dream.

Asia cup batting average 60.50.
Asia cup bowling average 9.5 with an economy rate of 6.33.

And coming into this tournament there were people doubting him just because he didn't perform in some tamasha fun cricket league!

[MENTION=65183]freelance_cricketer[/MENTION] you must be over the moon bhai?
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Agreed but this wasn't his only contribution. Anybody paying close attention will notice how much he was buzzing around afridi giving advice. Speaking to the bowlers encouraging his batting partner. I feel that he has got his confidence back and is fast becoming once again an integral part of the LO TEAM. Well done.
 
His hitting skills against ace bowlers haven't improved in past 10 years and that's the reason why he hasn't become a top T20 bat.
 
He has no fire-power, but this is not news.

He will fail every single time if he is supposed to hit from ball one.
 
Should've been sent at 3 or Max at 4.

Complete lack of awareness by our mentally light management. And then sending Sarfraz at the end with 38 needed off 12 lmao :))) Should've sent Imad there.
 
Mahela J making a good point on the post match cricinfo discussion - Malik who was one of the best batsmen in the Asia Cup now coming in at 6 is madness.
 
This team has too many of the same players: Afridi, Hafeez, Malik, sarfaraz
Afridi: bits and pieces and unreliable batting
Hafeez: goodish against pace, and somewhat against spin but mentally weak
Malik: good against spin, weak against pace, but relative more reliable to anchor a chase
Sarfaraz: good against spin, weak against pace: still a young career.
You cannot have so many incomplete batsmen in a line up.
Ideally from Hafeez, afridi, Malik you should only play one. Unfortunately for Pakistan, they will not learn their lesson even after this world cup: they will retain hafeez and malik, whereas they should only keep one.
 
Pete Rose said:
This team has too many of the same players: Afridi, Hafeez, Malik, sarfaraz
Afridi: bits and pieces and unreliable batting
Hafeez: goodish against pace, and somewhat against spin but mentally weak
Malik: good against spin, weak against pace, but relative more reliable to anchor a chase
Sarfaraz: good against spin, weak against pace: still a young career.
You cannot have so many incomplete batsmen in a line up.
Ideally from Hafeez, afridi, Malik you should only play one. Unfortunately for Pakistan, they will not learn their lesson even after this world cup: they will retain hafeez and malik, whereas they should only keep one.
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Key is to utilize the resources/strength and cover weakness in timely fashion...slogers should come in the end...when Malik was batting, they scored 8, 5, 9,7 with the loss of Umer...imagine ..same runs scored during middle overs ..when we needed 8 RPO.
 
Malik played very well today.


Scores of 15* , 26 , 15* & 40 * in WT20.

Bowling figures of 0-14 & 0-22 in WT20.


" Officially " years old. Has played international cricket for 17 years now.


Not even 1 match winning performance in WT20 and Pakistan knocked out.


Next WT20 is in 2020. Is it the end of Shoaib Malik's international T20 career?


He is targeting 2020 and does not want to retire from this format but should PCB drop curtains on his T20i career ?
 
*** Malik scored with the average of 96 and with the Strike Rate of 165+ (All while batting low the order)
*** Not a single dot in last two matches
*** vs Aus, 40 runs with SR of 200

Afridi messed up the batting order by promoting himself up the order... you just need to play your best player at top.
 
Black Zero said:
*** Malik scored with the average of 96 and with the Strike Rate of 165+ (All while batting low the order)
*** Not a single dot in last two matches
*** vs Aus, 40 runs with SR of 200

Afridi messed up the batting order by promoting himself up the order... you just need to play your best player at top.
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Poor captaincy
 
Average of 96 and S/R off 166 for Malik, unbelievable that we lost despite these stats; I feel his legend was wasted down the order.
 
Shoaib Malik: was he that Bad?

T20 WC is over for Pakistan. Most people are blaming Shoaib Malik, lets see How was he as compare to others.

Batting

Sharjeel Khan Runs -112 Avg-28.00 SR-143.58
Ahmed Shehzad Runs-108 Avg-27.00 SR-102.85
Shoaib Malik Runs-96 Avg-96.00 SR-165.51

We all know he is not a big hitter, he is a player who can carry the innings.Who can hold one end, quick between the wickets.When he is well settled he can score with a better SR.
in my view it was poor captaincy. Afridi was failed to get maximum out of him.he used to send him in a situation for which he was never made.should have been sent in 3 or four number. stats show he did pretty well with the bat and was in good form.also he was never used as bowler.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Malik played very well today.


Scores of 15* , 26 , 15* & 40 * in WT20.

Bowling figures of 0-14 & 0-22 in WT20.


" Officially " years old. Has played international cricket for 17 years now.


Not even 1 match winning performance in WT20 and Pakistan knocked out.


Next WT20 is in 2020. Is it the end of Shoaib Malik's international T20 career?


He is targeting 2020 and does not want to retire from this format but should PCB drop curtains on his T20i career ?
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Surely he'll be more useless than Afridi in the next WC. Cant play even medium-pace to save his life
 
not a match winner...at all. He is partly responsible for the mess we are in...always hogs a spot and does nothing meaningful
 
While I think Pakistan need to move on - it has to said that the captain has not used him well. Every time if the spinners were bowling afridi would promote himself and flail around for 8 to 10 balls and in partnership use up about 2 to 3 overs . Power hitting the pacers was never Malik's game:
 
you seriously have to be kidding me. Anyone who thinks this guy can bowl is delusional. He is finished as a bowler and almost done with the bat as well. He cannot play at 3 or 4...and deff not later in the innings. Bye
 
The batting order should havd been Malik after Umar Akmal indtead of Afridi. Shoaib played well hitting a nice six and four of the pacer.
 
thenawabjunior said:
T20 WC is over for Pakistan. Most people are blaming Shoaib Malik, lets see How was he as compare to others.

Batting

Sharjeel Khan Runs -112 Avg-28.00 SR-143.58
Ahmed Shehzad Runs-108 Avg-27.00 SR-102.85
Shoaib Malik Runs-96 Avg-96.00 SR-165.51

We all know he is not a big hitter, he is a player who can carry the innings.Who can hold one end, quick between the wickets.When he is well settled he can score with a better SR.
in my view it was poor captaincy. Afridi was failed to get maximum out of him.he used to send him in a situation for which he was never made.should have been sent in 3 or four number. stats show he did pretty well with the bat and was in good form.also he was never used as bowler.
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Just the fact that you are comparing him to Sharjeel and Shehzad is the reason why Malik should go. He is a senior pro who's a T20 expert remember? His role in the team is a finisher and he hasn't finished much. His innings today was fine when you look at the SR. However, the game was already beyond reach and that's when he plays his best. Get rid of this selfish dinosaur who plays for himself.
 
No but he is not the future. Doesn't make sense to keep trying him. I understand we have fragile batting line but good news is we have four years to groom. Malik should go along with Afridi, Ahmed and Akmal.
 
rhony said:
Just the fact that you are comparing him to Sharjeel and Shehzad is the reason why Malik should go. He is a senior pro who's a T20 expert remember? His role in the team is a finisher and he hasn't finished much. His innings today was fine when you look at the SR. However, the game was already beyond reach and that's when he plays his best. Get rid of this selfish dinosaur who plays for himself.
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Disagree! Shoaib Malik's role was a finisher? LOL who said? Do you think he is a big hitter like Razaq, Dhoni, Afridi? He is playing cricket from years, he can't start from big hits or slogs, he has been playing as a middle order batsman who can carry the innings and after getting 25 , 30 he can manage to hit some big shots. but never is a good finisher. sign of a good captain is to use players as per their strength.

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thenawabjunior said:
Disagree! Shoaib Malik's role was a finisher? LOL who said? Do you think he is a big hitter like Razaq, Dhoni, Afridi? He is playing cricket from years, he can't start from big hits or slogs, he has been playing as a middle order batsman who can carry the innings and after getting 25 , 30 he can manage to hit some big shots. but never is a good finisher. sign of a good captain is to use players as per their strength.

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Malik bhai....hosla rakhein..We have a habit of rewarding the worst players in our team..so you might be in for a good surprise.
 
thenawabjunior said:
T20 WC is over for Pakistan. Most people are blaming Shoaib Malik, lets see How was he as compare to others.

Batting

Sharjeel Khan Runs -112 Avg-28.00 SR-143.58
Ahmed Shehzad Runs-108 Avg-27.00 SR-102.85
Shoaib Malik Runs-96 Avg-96.00 SR-165.51

We all know he is not a big hitter, he is a player who can carry the innings.Who can hold one end, quick between the wickets.When he is well settled he can score with a better SR.
in my view it was poor captaincy. Afridi was failed to get maximum out of him.he used to send him in a situation for which he was never made.should have been sent in 3 or four number. stats show he did pretty well with the bat and was in good form.also he was never used as bowler.
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He lacks ability in the era of power hitters.He is no raina or dhoni.He does not have ability
 
sshakir411 said:
you seriously have to be kidding me. Anyone who thinks this guy can bowl is delusional. He is finished as a bowler and almost done with the bat as well. He cannot play at 3 or 4...and deff not later in the innings. Bye
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shah_1 said:
He can not play genuine fast bowling at all
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KKhan said:
No but he is not the future. Doesn't make sense to keep trying him. I understand we have fragile batting line but good news is we have four years to groom. Malik should go along with Afridi, Ahmed and Akmal.
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LOL.......and replace Malik with what exactly?!!

Trust me a few more games and Sharjeel will be found out......his game is one dimensional and cannot really rotate strike.

Akmal doesnt have a brain.

The only two players who played decent knocks this WC were Malik and Sarfraz, but both were pushed down the order.They did what they can when the game was already lost. Thanks to them Pakistani innings ended in 3 figures rather than reading 97 all out!

Sohaib Malik isn't a hack. He plays the long innings and rotates strike. Push him up the order and he can anchor one end while other batsmen attack. So can Sarfraz.

Malik as a bowler has been used by Afridi against set batsmen. If he gets consistent chances he will turn into a useful bowler. He's one of Pakistan's fittest cricketers and best fielders and a very reliable batsman.

People hate him for whatever reasons, but its definitely ain't really about his cricket.
 
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I don't know what's the deal with people and Malik. He looks a nothing player to me, always has. His technique and style is awful and when you see That you get sure that it he is in no way effective.
 
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mikeypbadana said:
He lacks ability in the era of power hitters.He is no raina or dhoni.He does not have ability
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Brother t20 is not all about hitting, you need someone to anchor the innings, esp in Pak batting lineup where you have hit or miss players , I am not comparing him with the likes of Dhoni or Raina but he is a good players in Asian conditions, his stats are good.
All around the globe, teams are spending money to bring him in league cricket.

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shortbread said:
LOL.......and replace Malik with what exactly?!!

Trust me a few more games and Sharjeel will be found out......his game is one dimensional and cannot really rotate strike.

Akmal doesnt have a brain.

The only two players who played decent knocks this WC were Malik and Sarfraz, but both were pushed down the order.They did what they can when the game was already lost. Thanks to them Pakistani innings ended in 3 figures rather than reading 97 all out!

Sohaib Malik isn't a hack. He plays the long innings and rotates strike. Push him up the order and he can anchor one end while other batsmen attack. So can Sarfraz.

Malik as a bowler has been used by Afridi against set batsmen. If he gets consistent chances he will turn into a useful bowler. He's one of Pakistan's fittest cricketers and best fielders and a very reliable batsman.

People hate him for whatever reasons, but its definitely not cricket.
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LMAO. So he deserves a spot because there's no replacement? Great reasoning.

Can't play fast bowling so top order is out of the question.

And yes...maybe he should only be given the ball while 10 years olds are batting.

You must be getting paid for such pathetic reasoning
 
Bhai he cost us the Kiwi match by selfish batting. That alone is enough to kick him out for good
 
KyoOne said:
Surely he'll be more useless than Afridi in the next WC. Cant play even medium-pace to save his life
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At 40 in Australia on the quick bouncy surfaces it will be more difficult.

It will be 22nd year of his international cricket :-) ;-)

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A lot people got owned today. People were being mean to me when I said Malik is a bigger hitter than Sarfraz, and today my theory has been proven. Sarfraz couldn't get it together, but Malik was gracefully as ever lofting the ball straight into the stands at a massive SR of 200. And they said he is a weak hitter LOL :)))

Too bad Afridi wanted to look cool and came at 5, had he promoted Malik we would've seen a different ball game
 
Pakistan lost dues to our bowlers (esp fast ones)

Best batsman by far for Pakistan

*** Malik scored with the average of 96 and with the Strike Rate of 165+ (All while batting low the order)
*** Not a single dot in last two matches
*** vs Aus, 40 runs with SR of 200 Afridi messed up the batting order by promoting himself up the order... you just need to play your best player at top.
 
Black Zero said:
Pakistan lost dues to our bowlers (esp fast ones)

Best batsman by far for Pakistan

*** Malik scored with the average of 96 and with the Strike Rate of 165+ (All while batting low the order)
*** Not a single dot in last two matches
*** vs Aus, 40 runs with SR of 200 Afridi messed up the batting order by promoting himself up the order... you just need to play your best player at top.
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***Number of Games won- ZERO. He will score when the matches are already lost. He will lose a match that could have been won. Kick him out and groom a finisher. He's an old wily fox who knows how to keep the Avg and SR up by playing pretty useless knocks. He knows fans like you and PCB do not look beyond those for selection
 
Pakistan missed a trick with Malik.

We all know he's a slow starter with roughly 90-100 strike rate at the start but then kicks on. In my opinion he should have came in at number 3 in all of the games minus the Bangladesh one as that's the time the spinners came on.

Him and Umar Akmal batting together always provides a solid partnership.

Coming in at 5-6 in all the matches was a waste, as I highlighted in another thread before. Pakistan just don't know how to utilise their team and players since 2011.
 
rhony said:
Just the fact that you are comparing him to Sharjeel and Shehzad is the reason why Malik should go. He is a senior pro who's a T20 expert remember? His role in the team is a finisher and he hasn't finished much. His innings today was fine when you look at the SR. However, the game was already beyond reach and that's when he plays his best. Get rid of this selfish dinosaur who plays for himself.
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LOLSSSSS!!! Shehzad and Sharjeel hae the best stats apart from malik this world cup so dont mess when you dont know something
 
wicketpace said:
LOLSSSSS!!! Shehzad and Sharjeel hae the best stats apart from malik this world cup so dont mess when you dont know something
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Dude..Look at the pitches and then talk. Sharjeel was good in NZ match. However, Those are not the performances you put up on flat pitches
 
Mash Allah - 151th page.

This itself puts Silkotia to WG Grace status of PP .......
 
Not a single bad word about Malik in Waqar's or Intikhab's reports. And yet people still claim he is a trouble maker.
 
Gabbar Singh said:
Not a single bad word about Malik in Waqar's or Intikhab's reports. And yet people still claim he is a trouble maker.
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He was never a trouble maker.

What he did was self-defense that every intelligent person will do.

He was appointed Captain at 25 by Dr. Ashraf, who was bitter after the "Mollah Days"; therefore he thought of a new start with a young Captain, under a professional coach. I heard him saying that Malik can lead PAK in 3 WCs. Malik started excellent - won 10 consecutive ODI against BD & ZIM. It sounds cheap, but those wins indicates the ruthlessness of the Captain & the team. Ruthlessness doesn't mean crashing a weak opponent by 200 runs, it's about not losing a single match that you are not expected to lose, something MSD has installed in team IND. If this current PAK team plays 10 consecutive ODI/T20 against Hong Kong or UAE - I'll bet my house that they won't win it 10-0.

It'll be "foolish" for posters to attempt proving that Dr. Ashraf appointed a 25 years old Sialkotia as Captain over big boys from Lahore, Karachi, Islamabad; because Sialkotia could "out-lobby" those big boys at PCB ranks. However, making him Test captain was wrong as he didn't make the Test team on merit - but I think, those days the concept of duel Captain wasn't established & no one in PAK is Afridi that you should sacrifice the tradition/law/team to facilitate the Quaid E Cricket.

Anyway, Malik & Henry started excellently, took PAK to WC Final & started to bring youngsters in the team. But, this guy was young, comes from a small city, but performing both as a player & Captain and he was politically correct, therefore it was difficult to play "humpty" with him openly. He could have called names & expose on face, because this guy might not be highly educated, but street smart. So, the shadow war started - and in this case, Malik did exactly what any one here 'll do - try to find own cronies in the team & form an admirer group, who'll protect him by counter balancing the shadow war.

Some of the comments in this thread is an excellent example of what Malik suffered from his egoistic team members. He gets all sorts of hammering for politics & lobbying, but I wonder why those posters are "silent" for the 2 DOI losses against SRL in JAN 2009 - after winning the 1st ODI by 8 wickets, on same ground, same opponents, PAK managed to lose by 129 runs & 234 runs, in ODI that is & Mian Malik was sacked. This guy is always identified as the political "under-performer", BUT, he was one of the mainstay of the team that won 2009 WC, under a Captain, who was among the leaders of the coup that ousted Malik.

If PCB can assemble 11 players with the attitude, work ethics, street-smartness, commitment, responsibility, above all professionalism of Mian Malik; instead of these "talented" bunch - PAK 'll reach the WC SF of 2019 at least, even with this terrible management & domestic style.
 
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the thing I liked about his batting today was not how he ended it up with some massive strokes, but the way he encouraged M.Nawaz to bat on and as always, was up for those quick runs between the wickets.
 
Big series coming up for the Showstopper [MENTION=136729]Suleiman[/MENTION]
 
shaz619 said:
Posters use to ridicule the showstopper "I recall his double hundred in x,y,z etc" then he actually made a double hundred a week later :yk
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Unfortunately, soon after the show didn't stop, it was permanently cancelled via sweet chin music.
 
miandadrules said:
It's going to be phenomenal!

I predict he increases his already impressive average in England.
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Just had a look at those numbers they are shocking, he's going to be up against England's best ODI team in years; tough series awaits him and now or never for Hafeez/Malik. Surely the PCB will have to get rid of excess waste with the champions trophy and WC coming up both in England.
 
shaz619 said:
Just had a look at those numbers they are shocking, he's going to be up against England's best ODI team in years; tough series awaits him and now or never for Hafeez/Malik. Surely the PCB will have to get rid of excess waste with the champions trophy and WC coming up both in England.
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avg of ~70 in last 18 months and still Malik's career depends on next few matches ...interesting...
 
Black Zero said:
avg of ~70 in last 18 months and still Malik's career depends on next few matches ...interesting...
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He along with Hafeez have failed away from home, with the champions trophy and WC in England there is no reason for us to take sacrificial lambs to those tournaments. Malik is in superb form as you say so he shouldn't have a problem performing in England, but if he does then it should be curtains as we can't afford to carry players who struggle in English conditions which is why I said now or never
 
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