Shoaib Malik Support & Performance Watch

Should Malik be in the plans for the 2019 WC?


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1.Hafeez.Deserves to stay on all round abilities.
2.Shezad.Needs an extended run.
3.Asad.Read shezad.
4.Umar.Build our batting around him.
5.A young batsman.
6.Hammad.Extended run please.
7.Afridi.
8.Young bowling all rounder.
9.Wahab
10.Gul
11.Junaid/Ajmal.
 
Malik is an ODI specialist, whilst for YK it was always a chore.

Asad and Umar have found their niche in the team, but you need someone to be the backbone.

and Malik is the man for that, he has exactly what it takes and should be our number 4.

Backbone will be Umar.He needs to bat at 4.I will try Azhar or Amin ahead of Malik.
 
1.Hafeez.Deserves to stay on all round abilities.
2.Shezad.Needs an extended run.
3.Asad.Read shezad.
4.Umar.Build our batting around him.
5.A young batsman.
6.Hammad.Extended run please.
7.Afridi.
8.Young bowling all rounder.
9.Wahab
10.Gul
11.Junaid/Ajmal.

Throw Fawad Alam in there, anything Shoaib Malik can do he can do.
 
Hafeez
Kami
Asad
Azhar
Malik- VC (to be made ODI captain after a year)
Umar
Hammad
Afridi
Wahab
Gul
Ajmal
 
^ Umar Akmal need more time. He just started his career. It's crazy to expect him to carry the batting line knowing that it took years for Yousuf and Younus to get settled, and carried the batting line alone. Which is precisely why we will need Shoaib Malik. Sometimes, you have to let hatred/ego go for the sake of Pakistan team and betterment of Pakistan cricket. Shoaib Malik will play vital role in the future of Pakistan cricket, trust me.
 
with all the history that Shoaib Malik has of grouping within the team and whatnot,why would anyone want him back.

i believe the current team is pretty ''clean'' in those respects.no fixers,no politics ,no grouping .let it remain that way
 
He only saves fours whilst fielding.

so can Malik. But Malik can hit four,six, and take single comfortably. Stabilize the inning comfortably, and can change the game comfortably.
He is only the best batsman against any spinner in the world, and literally, didn't spare Muralitharan, Warne...etc.
 
do not give a toss about the stats and whether he can play on green wickets.

bring Malik back NOW.


I think that would be bad move because he will start playing politics again like last time. Pakistan should move on and try new batsman forget about a guy who can't produce his bank statement.
 
Not the biggest fan of Shoaib but he will certainly be back...if Shoaib Akhtar can come back from a "5 year ban" and MoYo and YK from "life bans" this current Malik situation is nothing.

He's 29 now, hopefully gets over the whole grouping thing, presumably YK/MoYo won't even be in the ODI squad so that helps a bit with the politics in terms of Malik. Keep him away from the captaincy, give him a good run batting at 4 or 5 and he'll deliver, I feel. He would fill YK's role better than YK in ODIs.
 
There is a case for am experienced batsmen in the middle order...

However I would simply drop one of misbah or yk and play a youngster in his position..
I certainly wouldn't pick Malik because he's rubbish.
 
absolutely.

Fawad can't do that either.

So he can't hit 4's and 6's nor take singles, but he manages to make more runs at a better average and against better teams than Malik how?

Must be a helluva lot of doubles. :fawad
 
so can Malik. But Malik can hit four,six, and take single comfortably. Stabilize the inning comfortably, and can change the game comfortably.
He is only the best batsman against any spinner in the world, and literally, didn't spare Muralitharan, Warne...etc.

Yes. All the more reason Malik should be named for the Windies tour.
 
they're called Not Outs.

lets not Fadi-fy this thread.

it's obvious who is the better player between the 2.
 
You're right, anyone sensible will know Fawad is better. Glad we solved that :)

We could just drop both Younis and Misbah and fit them both in ...
 
I didn't comment in this thread after the worldcup started as I wanted to support the team we had now that we are out of the World Cup we did miss Malik. He should replace YK in the ODI side now.
 
If Afridi is unavailable for the WI, Malik should retain the captaincy :malik
 
Malik is 29 :facepalm:

i can bet u on anything if malik true age is 29, i can set up session with you with national team player which will clearly tell you about his wrong age and then will aslo tell you some other players too!.

thats one reason i always mad with this fake age things, it hurts very badly pakistan team and selection policy, i am sure u already heard the from younis and afridi in moring shows where they both accepted their ages are not correct, in one moring i am sure its vidoe is available on pakistaion too where younis said his age is close to misbah and then he started laughing and said u know in pakistan mostly ages are not correct.. and in other moring show afridi said to nadia very clearly.. "app ko tu pata hai 2-3 sall to pakistan main agay peachay hojatay hain" and then he started laughing! ...

why this fake ages thing hurt pakistan selection policy bcoz look if somebody is 33 years with fake age but actual age was 37-38.. selector can give the reason age for not selecting player but if they give the reaosn to 33 years player then media can fans will catch selectors.. for me that is problem and that should be fixed!
 
talentless wonder who was a better ODI record than the fisherman?

I'll take it.
 
talentless wonder who was a better ODI record than the fisherman?

I'll take it.

Except there records are the same lol? Never understood this Malik vs. Younis debate in ODIs, they're both fairly ordinary.
 
I just don't understand the fascination with Malik. What has this guy done in a big match which should solidify his spot in the team?

He is a flat track bully against teams with mediocre fast bowling attacks like India, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. Mentally he is weak, you can listen to him for less than 30sec and conclude that he is not a leader, he has no quality to lead a group of men.

Malik is a poor mans Hafeez, he has no place in the team now or in the future and I really hope the management do the right thing and keep ignoring him.
 
It means that Malik's 2 point average and 4 point strike rate advantages barely make him a better player than Younis. How is his career record as a batsmen at all significantly better than Younis?

Theres nothing to separate these two except for personal preference.
 
Here's one for AZ:

Malik has 21 not outs in 192 games, while Younis has 20 in 221 games. Clearly Malik's average is thus boosted thanks to his not outs, which make up a larger percentage than Younis's. In fact, this would mean that Malik averages even less than Younis!
 
Not outs should not be used in a comparison. After all, it's not your fault if the opposition can't get you out.

Malik also has 100+ wickets to YK's 2.
 
The not outs were in reference to an AZ post about Fawad, I agree with you to an extent.

Do we really need Malik's spin? We have Hafeez, Afridi, Ajmal and Rehman who have all taken their recent wickets cheaply (barring Rehman). Besides, we want Malik as a batsmen and not a bowler right? After all, if he's replacing Younis or Misbah, thats what he'd be doing.

He's going to be 33-34 by the time the next world cup comes around and most definitely his reflexes will be on the wane. Bring in a youngster, no nee for Moon.
 
The not outs were in reference to an AZ post about Fawad, I agree with you to an extent.

Do we really need Malik's spin? We have Hafeez, Afridi, Ajmal and Rehman who have all taken their recent wickets cheaply (barring Rehman). Besides, we want Malik as a batsmen and not a bowler right? After all, if he's replacing Younis or Misbah, thats what he'd be doing.

He's going to be 33-34 by the time the next world cup comes around and most definitely his reflexes will be on the wane. Bring in a youngster, no nee for Moon.

Malik has shown time and again why he was such a good ODI batsman.

he has the ability to hit boundary shots, rotate the strike and is probably our best player of spin bowling.

had great temperament, and played according to the situation.

Inzy and Woolmer made him from scratch, and he was their man for a crisis before YK and Yousuf ever were, why do people refuse to recognize this fact?

as for his age, he is probably the fittest cricketer in all of Pakistan, it won't be an issue.
 
Here's one for AZ:

Malik has 21 not outs in 192 games, while Younis has 20 in 221 games. Clearly Malik's average is thus boosted thanks to his not outs, which make up a larger percentage than Younis's. In fact, this would mean that Malik averages even less than Younis!
so 1 more not out would make that much difference? Have you actually worked that out that Malik's average would be lower than Younis's? Or you just guessing?

I'm pretty sure you're wrong there.

Anyway, not outs should be counted anyway.

The main reason Malik should have been recalled, is that in domestic he refound form. He was the best player in that domestic tournament, scoring runs just for fun, and taking lots of wickets. In good form, he is a quality ODI player. He lost his form ever since he lost captaincy. It seems he may have rediscovered it again.

He should get a chance to play and cement his place back in the team. I wouldn't make him captain though.
 
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Malik and YK as ODI batsmen are similar.

Both can rotate strike, although it didnt work for YK yesterday

But Malik can change gears when required

Btw, check this Malik catch

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Malik has shown time and again why he was such a good ODI batsman.

he has the ability to hit boundary shots, rotate the strike and is probably our best player of spin bowling.

had great temperament, and played according to the situation.

Inzy and Woolmer made him from scratch, and he was their man for a crisis before YK and Yousuf ever were, why do people refuse to recognize this fact?

as for his age, he is probably the fittest cricketer in all of Pakistan, it won't be an issue.

I'm sorry, you completely ignored the fact that you're statement about Malik being a statistically superior batsmen to Younis is wrong. You're bringing in the intangible, like Woolmer and Inzi's opinion. Why can't I talk about all the crunch matches that Younis has played in tests?

Unfair to call one trash and the other a crisis man when they have the same exact stats. Why not just say both are rubbish?

so 1 more not out would make that much difference? Have you actually worked that out that Malik's average would be lower than Younis's? Or you just guessing?

I'm pretty sure you're wrong there.

Anyway, not outs should be counted anyway.

The main reason Malik should have been recalled, is that in domestic he refound form. He was the best player in that domestic tournament, scoring runs just for fun, and taking lots of wickets. In good form, he is a quality ODI player. He lost his form ever since he lost captaincy. It seems he may have rediscovered it again.

He should get a chance to play and cement his place back in the team. I wouldn't make him captain though.

The not outs were in reference to AZ's post about Fawad, you'd know this if you'd bother to read the thread.

Secondly if you read my post you'd realize that having more not outs in less matches than Younis will certainly inflate his average more. It's not a hard concept, Malik has 21 in 192 games and Younis 20 in 221. Again this was more just to rub it in AZ's face since he seems to hate on Fawad's "inflated" average.

When you drop a player, at what point do you know he's become better? Malik has played at the international level for years now without improving, it's expected of him to perform at the domestic. It's good that he's performing and most definitely he should be looked at for a recall.

However, why should he be preferred over a similarly performing youngster who is yet to debut? That player can be moulded at the international level, Malik at the rip age of 29, cannot.

People need to accept that Malik is equal to Younis at the ODI level. No if's, and's, or intangibles can change the statistics.
 
I'm sorry, you completely ignored the fact that you're statement about Malik being a statistically superior batsmen to Younis is wrong. You're bringing in the intangible, like Woolmer and Inzi's opinion. Why can't I talk about all the crunch matches that Younis has played in tests?

Unfair to call one trash and the other a crisis man when they have the same exact stats. Why not just say both are rubbish?



The not outs were in reference to AZ's post about Fawad, you'd know this if you'd bother to read the thread.

Secondly if you read my post you'd realize that having more not outs in less matches than Younis will certainly inflate his average more. It's not a hard concept, Malik has 21 in 192 games and Younis 20 in 221. Again this was more just to rub it in AZ's face since he seems to hate on Fawad's "inflated" average.

When you drop a player, at what point do you know he's become better? Malik has played at the international level for years now without improving, it's expected of him to perform at the domestic. It's good that he's performing and most definitely he should be looked at for a recall.

However, why should he be preferred over a similarly performing youngster who is yet to debut? That player can be moulded at the international level, Malik at the rip age of 29, cannot.

People need to accept that Malik is equal to Younis at the ODI level. No if's, and's, or intangibles can change the statistics.

Malik is much better then Younis in ODIs and always has been. Hope to see Malik bat in the Green shirt soon we need him.
 
Malik is a must have in the current odi team he can bowl a bit too. And he is a good fielder
 
Malik is much better then Younis in ODIs and always has been. Hope to see Malik bat in the Green shirt soon we need him.

Both of them have no place in the team going forward. I hope Malik never even comes close to wearing the green again. Overrated cricketer who has NOTHING to offer and always succumbs to pressure.
 
The argument for Malik's inclusion has been pretty thin so far. I'd rather see Fawadi boy or another young gun, whats Naved Yasin doing these days?
 
With Pakistan losing I hope all anti Malik will undeer stand how important he is he know how to play ODI how to build inning he would never stuck in middle like Younis and Misbah and you will be stupid to bet againist him dropping catches.

Bring Back Malik
 
Both of them have no place in the team going forward. I hope Malik never even comes close to wearing the green again. Overrated cricketer who has NOTHING to offer and always succumbs to pressure.

He scored 4 hundreds vs India is presure get any bigger then that ask Younis and Misbah both who could not buy a single in Mohali
 
He scored 4 hundreds vs India is presure get any bigger then that ask Younis and Misbah both who could not buy a single in Mohali


Well think big. There is no series against India in NEAR FUTURE.

This team can't afford one more mess :malik
 
More silly posts..when are we going to move on?? I'm sick of this bakwaaad..WE GOT TO A SEMI FINAL for goodness sake..all without this leech!! he is not a team man and cannot play for the team..he proved this in the last few years!! He had his chance..let's look forward...

I'd also like to know how old some of our newbie posters are plz..because this is now getting very annoying..I'm sick of the same band baajay!! Malik is a loser with a crap attitude who betrayed His talent..LOSER!! And anyone who supports is unfortunatley a loser too!!
 
Reason was obvious. Unity Spoiler...

Just coz when he was made Captain he tried to stop players power and Prima donna like Akhter and Yousaf didnt like it

What prove any one got other then rumours u heard with out any offical evidence that he is unity spolier

Mate Get a Life
 
More silly posts..when are we going to move on?? I'm sick of this bakwaaad..WE GOT TO A SEMI FINAL for goodness sake..all without this leech!! he is not a team man and cannot play for the team..he proved this in the last few years!! He had his chance..let's look forward...

I'd also like to know how old some of our newbie posters are plz..because this is now getting very annoying..I'm sick of the same band baajay!! Malik is a loser with a crap attitude who betrayed His talent..LOSER!! And anyone who supports is unfortunatley a loser too!!

If ur old enough to talk like an adult we can speak and I can prove u that using words like Crap and Loser does not showing ur mature enough to hold decent converstaion .
Age is just a number I really dont care how old some one is as long as he know how to behave

Malik is best pakistani ODI batsmen at the moment and him not playing in WC cost us semi.

TC
 
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Just coz when he was made Captain he tried to stop players power and Prima donna like Akhter and Yousaf didnt like it



Do you have proof of this?

Check Inquiry Committee videos. Even Intikhab Alam mentioned his name that he is a unity Spoiler.


Forget him. We don't want these Girlish type of players at all :malik :moyo
 
Do you have proof of this?

Check Inquiry Committee videos. Even Intikhab Alam mentioned his name that he is a unity Spoiler.


Forget him. We don't want these Girlish type of players at all :malik :moyo

In that report whats was said about Afridi what was said about Younis I m not even talking about Akmal bros

why all those still in side why only one person getting blame who is much better then any other batsman in ODI

Didint that committee banned Younis didnt they fined Afridi and AKmals so do u still think its was fair trails
 
In that report whats was said about Afridi what was said about Younis I m not even talking about Akmal bros

why all those still in side why only one person getting blame who is much better then any other batsman in ODI

Didint that committee banned Younis didnt they fined Afridi and AKmals so do u still think its was fair trails

Wah. You are saying that if Akmal Brothers are in team then this Senator Shoaib Malik should also be there?

Einstein!!


Time to move forward mate. We don't want him at all.

I know he will do CHEAP tactics to get captaincy back.


Addat say majboor hai yea.
 
Wah. You are saying that if Akmal Brothers are in team then this Senator Shoaib Malik should also be there?

Einstein!!


Time to move forward mate. We don't want him at all.

I know he will do CHEAP tactics to get captaincy back.


Addat say majboor hai yea.

When you say WE ?

Its not only Ur team it is national team every one have right to say their point of view how easily U can start saying We plz say U don't want him in team speak for urself why r U trying to lead people like Ur some kind of politician ( and u say Malik is senator) lol

And how do U know he will do some cheap tactics for captaincy

R u MR. Ijaz Butt right hand or some thing
 
And why r u not talking about Afridi and Younis in that report why poeple have double standard when looking at any prospective
 
And why r u not talking about Afridi and Younis in that report why poeple have double standard when looking at any prospective

THE ROOT Cause was this Sifarshi of Dr Firdous Ashiq Awan. My Point is simple. His past is dark. A sifarishi. A politician. Time to look forward. Not backward.


And ''WE'' doesnt mean that I am saying it on behalf of all people.

Grow up mate :D


Are you from Sialkot BTW? :D
 
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If ur old enough to talk like an adult we can speak and I can prove u that using words like Crap and Loser does not showing ur mature enough to hold decent converstaion .
Age is just a number I really dont care how old some one is as long as he know how to behave

Malik is best pakistani ODI batsmen at the moment and him not playing in WC cost us semi.

TC

no our best ODI batsman is yusuf by a million billion miles..we didnt miss mr mediocre..he's rubbish just accept it and move on please...he's a "termite" and has not place in this team...since 99 i can only remembrer 1 innings of note..thats it..stop harping on about him and support our current team who played their hearts out and got us to within 30 runs of a historical final! thats jazba, mehnat and hard work..unlike Malik sahib who betrayed his captain. country and people by helping to destroy the fragile unity within thet eam and undermined it for personal gain..now dont you have homework to do? or exams etc?
 
this is shoaib malik support thread.
so the supporters shud be here talking about his activities and performance.

its simple. if u dont like him. dont write here.
Everybody is free to think watever he want.
for me,
he is the best team man. and should be in the team. Huge fan.
 
this is shoaib malik support thread.
so the supporters shud be here talking about his activities and performance.

its simple. if u dont like him. dont write here.
Everybody is free to think watever he want.
for me,
he is the best team man. and should be in the team. Huge fan.

indeed but it is also wise to highlight stupidity when one sees it in whatever form!
 
We don't need Shoaib Malik.

We should create a team which can dominate on any pitch but there is another factor that Shoaib Malik would be completely useless in Australia.

*fast bowling pitches
*Imagine him facing the fast bowlers.
 
We don't need Shoaib Malik.

We should create a team which can dominate on any pitch but there is another factor that Shoaib Malik would be completely useless in Australia.

*fast bowling pitches
*Imagine him facing the fast bowlers.

no need to imagine just watch is bradmenesque performance in england!
 
Shoaib Malik would have made some difference. Misbah was crap in the semi final. Though he Played exceptionalyyyy well when Shahid was on the verge of becoming Captain.
 
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