South Africa (138 & 285/5) defeat Australia (212 & 207) by 5 wickets in the final to clinch the World Test Championship 2023/25 title

[kron]

Head’s average away from home - 32.2
Sidhus avg away from home - 33.58

Note- Sidhu was an opener and that too in the 90s era

Head average vs Rohit lead India is 45
Vs any non Rohit lead captain his average is sub 25

 

[mominsaigol]

In india he was dropped from playing 11 just because he is pathetic player against spinners

Too bad he butchered kuldeep in a final .

Oh cant provide my 3 documents? Go on, I'll wait.

 

[sweep_shot]

Not sure why Australia are hellbent on shoehorning their middle order batters as openers.

They tried Steve Smith as opener for a while too.

Yes. They need to find specialist openers.

Maybe they can give Konstas a lengthy run.

 

[Rana]

So you think Sidhu was a Joginder Sharma level player?

This is not a Rizwan bashing thread, please use your brain here.

Practice what you bloody preach

Do you honestly think Sidhu was a Head level player? What a clownish statement to begin with!

 

[mominsaigol]

@Devadwal so desprate hes bringing in kohli into a wtc thread..his own hero ran away from test cricket with his tail between his legs.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

In the 1996 tour to WI, Sidhu averaged 46 against the trio of Ambrose, Walsh and Bishop and we have @Rana here comparing Sidhu with Joginder Sharma.

 

[Rana]

In the 1996 tour to WI, Sidhu averaged 46 against the trio of Ambrose, Walsh and Bishop and we have @Rana here comparing Sidhu with Joginder Sharma.

Even a joker like Rizwan averaged something like that against Cummins, Starc and Hazlewood in Australia

Don’t give me random one offs to prove a ridiculous point!

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Practice what you bloody preach

Do you honestly think Sidhu was a Head level player? What a clownish statement to begin with!

In tests, yes.

Instead of running your mouth go watch some actual cricket from the past.

Shastri used to unleash hell on spinners of the calibre of Warne and Murali.

 

[Devadwal]

@Devadwal so desprate hes bringing in kohli into a wtc thread..his own hero ran away from test cricket with his tail between his legs.

Check the thread who brings the Kohli in this thread .

 

[mominsaigol]

In tests, yes.

Instead of running your mouth go watch some actual cricket from the past.

Shastri used to unleash hell on spinners of the calibre of Warne and Murali.

Ravi shastri use to unleash hell on warne and murli?

 

[Devadwal]

From These peoples hitting few boundary means he is better players

In tests, yes.

Instead of running your mouth go watch some actual cricket from the past.

Shastri used to unleash hell on spinners of the calibre of Warne and Murali.

 

[Rana]

In tests, yes.

Instead of running your mouth go watch some actual cricket from the past.

Shastri used to unleash hell on spinners of the calibre of Warne and Murali.

Let me have my lunch first and then I’ll have you for desert…

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Let me have my lunch first and then I’ll have you for desert…

beta stick to Rizwan bashing, this is something way above your calibre.

 

[mominsaigol]

@Devadwal

You better hope and pray smith doesnt hit a century today cause this will be another test century beyond 46 avg below 10k test runs kohli's caliber.

 

[RidiculousMan]

@jeeteshssaxena logic.

Because Wasim Akram has higher score than Sachin in Test Cricket. Therefore Wasim is better batter.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Ravi shastri use to unleash hell on warne and murli?

Yeah, its a known thing. I am not shocked though, you hardly have any knowledge of cricket pre 2020.

Even his cricinfo profile says the same.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

@jeeteshssaxena logic.

Because Wasim Akram has higher score than Sachin in Test Cricket. Therefore Wasim is better batter.

When did i say that.

I am comparing a 42 averaging test opener from the 90s to a middle order batsman averaging the same?

Is this getting too difficult to grasp?

 

[Devadwal]

beta stick to Rizwan bashing, this is something way above your calibre.

Don't take these guys view serious because for them Asif Ali is best captain in Pakistan , Usman Khan is best limited over players and fixer Sharjeel is best Opener in Pakistan cricket

 

[mominsaigol]

Yeah, its a known thing. I am not shocked though, you hardly have any knowledge of cricket pre 2020.

Even his cricinfo profile says the same.

Ravi shahstri faced Warne when warne was a debutant on the flattest wicket possible .

Only an indian can hype a 35 avg test batter and act like he'd be relevant to warne and murli in prime.

Keep your 2020 covid knowledge to yourself please.

 

[mominsaigol]

@jeeteshssaxena logic.

Because Wasim Akram has higher score than Sachin in Test Cricket. Therefore Wasim is better batter.

It's pretty funny Akram has a higher HS then Sachin in test though

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

It's pretty funny Akram has a higher HS then Sachin in test though

And Muralitharan has a higher str rate then Head in test cricket

 

[RexRex]

When did i say that.

I am comparing a 42 averaging test opener from the 90s to a middle order batsman averaging the same?

Is this getting too difficult to grasp?

mominsaigol is not the sharpest tool in the shed. Please forgive him.

 

[mominsaigol]

And Muralitharan has a higher str rate then Head in test cricket

Strike rates increase if you have scores of 5 of 3 or 10 of 4 lol.

A high score is a high score though. Not easy to achieve even especially for a bowling allrounder.

Anyway I like sachin and won't say anything negative about him. I will however laugh at the notion of someone believing ravi shastri is in bootlicker distance of Warne and murli as a cricketer

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Ravi shahstri faced Warne when warne was a debutant on the flattest wicket possible .

Only an indian can hype a 35 avg test batter and act like he'd be relevant to warne and murli in prime.

Keep your 2020 covid knowledge to yourself please.

Warne debuted in 1997-1998?

Again, watch some cricket before mouthing off

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Y

mominsaigol is not the sharpest tool in the shed. Please forgive him.

Yeah i Know, he can’t calculate averages so this is definitely too much for him.

 

[mominsaigol]

mominsaigol is not the sharpest tool in the shed. Please forgive him.

Moron, if you're going to make fun of me, atleast check the replies. @jeeteshssaxena made that reply to @RidiculousMan not me .

Lol you literally owned yourself and proved to the whole world why your cognitive skills are zero

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Not sure why Australia are hellbent on shoehorning their middle order batters as openers.

They tried Steve Smith as opener for a while too.

No options. Konstas is too young and Campbell Kellaway needs at least one more season of Shield , but looks the most promising imo.

 

[mominsaigol]

Y

Yeah i Know, he can’t calculate averages so this is definitely too much for him.

Oh another one who cant tell the difference between me and @RidiculousMan

 

[RexRex]

Moron, if you're going to make fun of me, atleast check the replies. @jeeteshssaxena made that reply to @RidiculousMan not me .

Lol you literally owned yourself and proved to the whole world why your cognitive skills are zero

 

[mominsaigol]

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Yeah show that wicket. Not the innings prior where he destroyed India by scoring a super century in BGT. Kitnei had tak rat bano gei

 

[PAKFAN12]

Too much hype about the head

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Australia with all the luck . Umpires' calls all going their way.

 

[Devadwal]

Pathetic umpiring. As I said all the close call will go in australia favour.

 

[Rana]

Acha what was that…


Navjot Siddhu>> Travis Head according to who? Kapil Sharma??

 

[Hellion]

Travis Head is a good Test batsman, nothing more.

 

[Devadwal]

Australia with all the luck . Umpires' calls all going their way.

Imagine india gets favour of these close call . ICC = BCCI

@BouncerGuy @The Bald Eagle bro already started a thread on this topic.

 

[Rana]

Oh bhai mela loot liya WTC final ka

 

[mominsaigol]

Australia with all the luck . Umpires' calls all going their way.

See the difference when my blessing is involved

 

[Rana]

Travis Head is a good Test batsman, nothing more.

Yeah I mean he didn’t just end India’s rigged wc campaign in ODI’s did he?

 

[Rajdeep]

@mominsaigol what is Travis Head's score again? Sorry I am not following the game and have no access to cricinfo

 

[shaz619]

Yeah I mean he didn’t just end India’s rigged wc campaign in ODI’s did he?

Anyone who bends India over is average

 

[mominsaigol]

@mominsaigol what is Travis Head's score again? Sorry I am not following the game and have no access to cricinfo

Its over 9000

 

[Hellion]

2 borderline decisions to OZ and now a plumb lbw not given.

 

[PAKFAN12]

Bad umpiring , everything towards aussies .

 

[mominsaigol]

Travis Head is the 5th greatest all format batsmen of all time after kohli, KP, Gayle and Warner.

Siddu wasnt even relevant in his own era.

 

[Hellion]

Yeah I mean he didn’t just end India’s rigged wc campaign in ODI’s did he?

I was talking specifically about Tests. I'm sure you can read that.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Travis Head is a good Test batsman, nothing more.

Fair assessment. he Needs more consistency. Average of 42 at 31 years old, 50ish matches and 1 overseas century is far far away from great in the format.

 

[Hellion]

Travis Head is the 5th greatest all format batsmen of all time after kohli, KP, Gayle and Warner.

Siddu wasnt even relevant in his own era.

So, you haven't even included AB in that? Wow

 

[Devadwal]

Should have 6 down till now. Robbed by umpires. once a cheater always a cheater . Give them trophy.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Travis Head is the 5th greatest all format batsmen of all time after kohli, KP, Gayle and Warner.

Siddu wasnt even relevant in his own era.

IMO its Kohli, KP and ABDV who would get into the great teams in all formats. They have solid records no matter the format.

Players like Head, Gayle and Warner are tier below. Not bad players across formats by any means but they have some weaknesses in test particularly.

 

[mominsaigol]

So, you haven't even included AB in that? Wow

No cause ab was rubbish in t20. Not an international t20 batsmen. Better then head in test and odi 100%

 

[Devadwal]

So far 3-0 in Australia favoured including a Plumb decison. ​

 

[mominsaigol]

IMO its Kohli, KP and ABDV who would get into the great teams in all formats. They have solid records no matter the format.

Players like Head, Gayle and Warner are tier below. Not bad players across formats by any means but they have some weaknesses in test particularly.

By all formats, I mean players that are good in all formats. AB is an odi and test legend but he underachieved in international t20

 

[sweep_shot]

Aussies are recovering a bit.

AUS - 94/4 (30.3 overs).

 

[shaz619]

Travis Head is the 5th greatest all format batsmen of all time after kohli, KP, Gayle and Warner.

Siddu wasnt even relevant in his own era.

With Kohli though I was just thinking that out of the so called greats, there has never been a player who has flopped in so many high profile ICC tournament KO games when it actually mattered. And lets be real, even that knock in the ICC T20 final recently was terrible, he can count his lucky stars that SA saved their usual botchmania for the end. You talk about Viv Richards, Travis Head & even KP all these guys played crucial impactful knocks to deliver trophies for their country. Kohli was amazing in bilaterals however, he just didn’t have the marbles when it mattered, it’s a genetic issue and not his fault. I wish him well and hope he can take care of Anushka’s kids in the UK very well.

 

[sweep_shot]

Smith is on 45*. He needs to score a big hundred.

Opportunity for rookie Webster to make a name for himself.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

By all formats, I mean players that are good in all formats. AB is an odi and test legend but he underachieved in international t20

You are right, he underachieved compared to his IPL exploits, yeah, but he was still a very, very good player in T20i.

 

[shaz619]

Fair assessment. he Needs more consistency. Average of 42 at 31 years old, 50ish matches and 1 overseas century is far far away from great in the format.

Needs more matches against India

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Smith is on 45*. He needs to score a big hundred.

Opportunity for rookie Webster to make a name for himself.

Beau seems like he is ready to give his wicket to Rabada any time.

 

[sweep_shot]

Beau seems like he is ready to give his wicket to Rabada any time.

It is not an easy condition for batting. Overcast.

He did well during BGT. Good prospect.

 

[PAKFAN12]

Blind umpiring

 

[shaz619]

Who can forget Amir bent Kohli in a KO game against Pakistan to; such a legendary player, I wouldn’t pick him for the Warwickshire Bears second XI in a knockout game. Coward chickened out from this England tour to.

 

[sweep_shot]

Fair assessment. he Needs more consistency. Average of 42 at 31 years old, 50ish matches and 1 overseas century is far far away from great in the format.

Head is an impact player.

Even if he is not very consistent, a team needs someone like him.

 

[mominsaigol]

You are right, he underachieved compared to his IPL exploits, yeah, but he was still a very, very good player in T20i.

I disagree.

AB avg 26 with a 135 sr in t20. Despite being one of the most explosive league batters, he was beyond awful in international t20.

He is obviously >>>>>>>>>>> Head in odi and test and head won't ever reach him, but head is consistently good in all formats.

HTB in tests with 9 centuries + 1 wtc final, 40+ avg and 100+ sr in modern odi with impact knocks and a solid sr in t20 is good enough to be considered all format.

De villers basically falls in the realm of root and smith, aka solid odi and test players but average t20 players.

Although de villers is leagues and leagues > Smith and root in odi

 

[sweep_shot]

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Blind umpiring

South Africa had 3 reviews left. Why didn't they review?

 

[mominsaigol]

Webster is so underrated. A hidden gem. People forgot that he turned the tidies for AU in BGT. His knocks were small but crucial. And marsh was history.

 

[mominsaigol]

50 for the Smith Machine

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Webster lucky to survive till now but Smith has batted beautifully and with alot of patience and concentration.

 

[sweep_shot]

100 is up for the Aussies.

AUS - 104/4 (32.2 overs).

 

[DeadlyVenom]

50 for the Test GOAT.

A real privilege to watch him bat.

 

[mominsaigol]

@Devadwal rn

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Kevin Pietersen's whole thing while commentating is saying the same thing multiple times.

"South Africa need Smith. They need Smith. They need Smith. They want him."

We understood you the first time bro.

He is one of the worst commentators around.

 

[mominsaigol]

50 for the Test GOAT.

A real privilege to watch him bat.

And this is why I rate smith > Sachin. Sachin never throughout 24 years of test cricket got his team out of a collapse or a tricky jam.

He scored big but only due to dravid + Sehwag + Ganguly performing prior.

Sachin has a few solid knocks in odi such as desert storm but in test he has zero match saves.

This isnt the first time smith has rescued either. He once reduced Aus against England won them the game single handidely.

Easily the greatest technician and impact player in test history.

 

[Devadwal]

@Devadwal rn

After cheating he gets the fifty.

This is another umpire fixing after the BGT and sandpaper .

 

[DeadlyVenom]

And this is why I rate smith > Sachin. Sachin never throughout 24 years of test cricket got his team out of a collapse or a tricky jam.

He scored big but only due to dravid + Sehwag + Ganguly performing prior.

Sachin has a few solid knocks in odi such as desert storm but in test he has zero match saves.

This isnt the first time smith has rescued either. He once reduced Aus against England won them the game single handidely.

Easily the greatest technician and impact player in test history.

I agree 100%

 

[kron]

With Kohli though I was just thinking that out of the so called greats, there has never been a player who has flopped in so many high profile ICC tournament KO games when it actually mattered. And lets be real, even that knock in the ICC T20 final recently was terrible, he can count his lucky stars that SA saved their usual botchmania for the end. You talk about Viv Richards, Travis Head & even KP all these guys played crucial impactful knocks to deliver trophies for their country. Kohli was amazing in bilaterals however, he just didn’t have the marbles when it mattered, it’s a genetic issue and not his fault. I wish him well and hope he can take care of Anushka’s kids in the UK very well.

Kohli is a known choker.

Bumrah your favourite bowler won it for India.

And head averages under 25 when Rohit isn’t captain. He only does well vs rohit the captain.

Another overrated fraud Rohit. He is just good at putting on more fat.

 

[kron]

And this is why I rate smith > Sachin. Sachin never throughout 24 years of test cricket got his team out of a collapse or a tricky jam.

He scored big but only due to dravid + Sehwag + Ganguly performing prior.

Sachin has a few solid knocks in odi such as desert storm but in test he has zero match saves.

This isnt the first time smith has rescued either. He once reduced Aus against England won them the game single handidely.

Easily the greatest technician and impact player in test history.

Yeppp 100%

 

[RexRex]

jeez, Smith just never fails. He really is Bradmanesque.

 

[Ice Man]

Head is an impact player.

Even if he is not very consistent, a team needs someone like him.

Nailed it.

It's not his problem that most of the batsmen up the order are hacks atm, so, he should continue to play his natural game as that's what has made him successful thus far.

 

[sweep_shot]

Australia are getting into a good position now.

Vintage Australia.

AUS - 107/4 (33.4 overs).