South Africa [291/7] beat Australia [217] by 74 runs in the 1st ODI, lead series 1-0

[MenInG]

South Africa Squad:Quinton de Kock (c & wk), Janneman Malan, Temba Bavuma, JJ Smuts, David Miller, Heinrich Klaasen, Andile Phehlukwayo, Beuran Hendricks, Lungi Ngidi, Tabraiz Shamsi, Keshav Maharaj, Anrich Nortje, Lutho Sipamla, Kyle Verreynne

Australia Squad:Aaron Finch (c), Alex Carey (wk), David Warner, Steven Smith, Marnus Labuschagne, Mitchell Marsh, Ashton Agar, Pat Cummins, Mitchell Starc, Adam Zampa, Kane Richardson, Matthew Wade, D Arcy Short, Josh Hazlewood, Jhye Richardson

 

[MenInG]

Teams:
South Africa (Playing XI): Quinton de Kock(w/c), Janneman Malan, Temba Bavuma, Kyle Verreynne, Heinrich Klaasen, David Miller, Andile Phehlukwayo, Keshav Maharaj, Anrich Nortje, Lungi Ngidi, Tabraiz Shamsi

Australia (Playing XI): David Warner, Aaron Finch(c), Steven Smith, Marnus Labuschagne, D Arcy Short, Mitchell Marsh, Alex Carey(w), Mitchell Starc, Pat Cummins, Adam Zampa, Josh Hazlewood

South Africa have won the toss and have opted to bat

 

[minamino]

I have got a bad feeling about this one. Australia is gonna win by 10 wickets.

 

[minamino]

Janneman Malan gone on golden duck in his first match.

 

[minamino]

Hazlewood is not good enough for LOI.

 

[minamino]

The stadium is really beautiful.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Poor Malan got a brute of a delivery first up on debut.

Actually I was a bit surprised to see that de Kock didn't take the strike first up instead.

 

[minamino]

Surprised to Australia playing their full strength in this series.

 

[minamino]

This Verryenne guys looks very average

 

[warcry]

rossow would walk into this sa team. instead they have the african shafiq at no3.

 

[Ozymandiasza]

This will be a slaughter.

 

[Khan12]

rossow would walk into this sa team. instead they have the african shafiq at no3.

Shafiq is still miles better then him

 

[minamino]

Bad dismissal of Verreyne. Should have at least scored a 50.

 

[Ryw]

SA 156/4 * (32.3/50 ov) crr 4.8
SA won the toss and elected to bat

 

[Hasan123]

SA need to get to close go 300 to have a chance.

 

[Hasan123]

This Verryenne guys looks very average

I swear all you do on every match thread is call every player rubbish or ovverated.

 

[minamino]

Are Smith and Warner in plans for WC 2023? If not, then I don't think selections in this series makes much sense.

 

[Hasan123]

Klassen is really stepping up. Making himself impossible to be dropped.

 

[minamino]

Klassen is really stepping up. Making himself impossible to be dropped.

It's him vs RVD. I think they will go with RVD.

 

[Hasan123]

It's him vs RVD. I think they will go with RVD.

RVD will bat at 3. Klassen is at 5/6.

 

[Hasan123]

Are Smith and Warner in plans for WC 2023? If not, then I don't think selections in this series makes much sense.

Your ODI and T20 team should be similar. They will probably reassess after 20201 World T20.

 

[Smudger]

Are Smith and Warner in plans for WC 2023? If not, then I don't think selections in this series makes much sense.

Such a clueless poster

 

[minamino]

RVD will bat at 3. Klassen is at 5/6.

You keep on forgetting about the quota. Bavuma is almost a given.

 

[minamino]

QdK
Bavuma
RVD
AB
FAF
Klaassen
Miller
Rabada
Nortje
Steyn
Tahir

This will never be the team of SA. You need to have at least 5 colored players.

 

[warcry]

Shafiq is still miles better then him

both play no6 in tests.
both are short.
both continue to play due to politics.

hence the similarity.

 

[Mobashir]

Class batting by Klaasen!SA will put a good total despite the early losses.

 

[minamino]

Klaassen another victim of pathetic CSA politics.

 

[shah_1]

QdK
Bavuma
RVD
AB
FAF
Klaassen
Miller
Rabada
Nortje
Steyn
Tahir

This will never be the team of SA. You need to have at least 5 colored players.

In the ICC events

There is no transformation policy

 

[minamino]

In the ICC events

There is no transformation policy

There is. That's why Philander was played over Abbott in the semi-final against NZ.

 

[minamino]

I don't think I have seen a player worse than Phehlukwayo in SA team.

 

[sindhiboy]

I don't think I have seen a player worse than Phehlukwayo in SA team.

He is hilarious. And he wont be dropped any time soon. He does get wickets though. Not terrible at the death.

But is a shambolic batsman.

 

[minamino]

He is hilarious. And he wont be dropped any time soon. He does get wickets though. Not terrible at the death.

But is a shambolic batsman.

He is playing only because of quota otherwise I don't think he's better than Pretorious

 

[sindhiboy]

Aus are very reliant on Cummins.

They have to watch his workload.

Starc can miss a test if injured. But Cummins is their best bowler and a must in all conditions.

 

[shah_1]

There is. That's why Philander was played over Abbott in the semi-final against NZ.

If you follow the news then you would know there was no transformation target in 2019 WC to avoid that incident again

 

[minamino]

The useless Phehlukwayo has wasted the review. One of the worst reviews of all time

 

[Justcrazy]

SA need to break this partnership here

 

[Justcrazy]

209 from 34 overs , Key is partnership.

 

[Justcrazy]

40 runs partnership so far , slowly they are grinding there way in.

 

[MenInG]

South Africa vs Australia, 1st ODI

AUS 104/2 (20.2 Ovs) • RSA 291/7 (50.0 Ovs)

Australia need 188 runs

 

[Justcrazy]

SA need wickets here , this way these two will continue to milk the bowling and get into strong position. Wickets will be key.

 

[Hasan123]

You keep on forgetting about the quota. Bavuma is almost a given.

Bavuma will move to open eventually I think.

Bavuma,Andile,Rabada,Sipamla,and Ngidi. Enough options to fill the quota.

 

[Justcrazy]

Required rate is still very managable.

 

[Justcrazy]

SA are keeping it tight but not getting wickets.

 

[minamino]

Smith playing a gem here.

 

[Hasan123]

Marnus Labuschange excellence in tests in recent times has prevented Smith from getting a couple of big scores.

Australia are lucky to have both.

 

[minamino]

Smith is not a good LOI player. Babar is much better than him LOIs.

 

[Justcrazy]

Labuschange gone.

 

[MMHS]

I feel, last WC was the lowest point of SAF cricket in many years - several aged cricketers on their last leg who had to be carried for their legacy for one last WC, untimely loss of the best batsman of last decade and a bit of self imposed handicap (quota), pushed them to near bottom of the pack, but they are a much better team than that, even now.

At 30, Miller is their senior most batsman now and he should be within his prime till next WC - add Kock, Janneman Malan, Verryeene, Klaasen, Bvuma, Rassi .... that's a damn good top order, their batting is covered. Mahraj & Shamshi can form a good spin duo, if not great and their fielding, pace attack will always be among best - Kagisu, Ngidi, Nortje, Andile, couple of U19 WC kids, and few all-rounders still in their 20s.... I am sure, they'll make a come back big time. It might take a little more time in Test, but SAF cricket is back on right track for sure. It's a full strength Australia and SAF did beat them in one active T20, should win 1st ODI as well.

 

[minamino]

I feel, last WC was the lowest point of SAF cricket in many years - several aged cricketers on their last leg who had to be carried for their legacy for one last WC, untimely loss of the best batsman of last decade and a bit of self imposed handicap (quota), pushed them to near bottom of the pack, but they are a much better team than that, even now.

At 30, Miller is their senior most batsman now and he should be within his prime till next WC - add Kock, Janneman Malan, Verryeene, Klaasen, Bvuma, Rassi .... that's a damn good top order, their batting is covered. Mahraj & Shamshi can form a good spin duo, if not great and their fielding, pace attack will always be among best - Kagisu, Ngidi, Nortje, Andile, couple of U19 WC kids, and few all-rounders still in their 20s.... I am sure, they'll make a come back big time. It might take a little more time in Test, but SAF cricket is back on right track for sure. It's a full strength Australia and SAF did beat them in one active T20, should win 1st ODI as well.

I think you always overrate SA team. Their fielding has gone pathetic. Their U19 team was demolished by Afghanistan and they lost pretty badly to Australia in T20I series except when where Australia self-imploded in the chase. Rassie, Klaasen, Bavuma all of them are in ending parts 20s or early 30s as well.

 

[Hasan123]

I feel, last WC was the lowest point of SAF cricket in many years - several aged cricketers on their last leg who had to be carried for their legacy for one last WC, untimely loss of the best batsman of last decade and a bit of self imposed handicap (quota), pushed them to near bottom of the pack, but they are a much better team than that, even now.

At 30, Miller is their senior most batsman now and he should be within his prime till next WC - add Kock, Janneman Malan, Verryeene, Klaasen, Bvuma, Rassi .... that's a damn good top order, their batting is covered. Mahraj & Shamshi can form a good spin duo, if not great and their fielding, pace attack will always be among best - Kagisu, Ngidi, Nortje, Andile, couple of U19 WC kids, and few all-rounders still in their 20s.... I am sure, they'll make a come back big time. It might take a little more time in Test, but SAF cricket is back on right track for sure. It's a full strength Australia and SAF did beat them in one active T20, should win 1st ODI as well.

It's a shame PP doesn't think like this. They think 1 bad year means you will end up like Zimbabwe. Don't see them doing much in tests but in LO they will be a strong team you are right.

 

[Hasan123]

Australia need to see off the spinners to have a chance here.

 

[Hasan123]

I think you always overrate SA team. Their fielding has gone pathetic. Their U19 team was demolished by Afghanistan and they lost pretty badly to Australia in T20I series except when where Australia self-imploded in the chase. Rassie, Klaasen, Bavuma all of them are in ending parts 20s or early 30s as well.

You think everything is rubbish. That's your problem. U19 WC doesn't mean much lol. Only 1/2 players will be playing at international level.

MMHS is one of the most knowledgeable posters here , if he is saying South Africa will be fine I would go with that.

 

[Mobashir]

Bavuma will move to open eventually I think.

Bavuma,Andile,Rabada,Sipamla,and Ngidi. Enough options to fill the quota.

Bavuma and Andile are not good enough to be part of a good South African team.

Sipamla is still unproved and if all three pacers played are black it means there is no room for any good/great white pacer in South Africa. That will be a shame knowing those they have produced over the last 20/30 years.

The quotas will always be a problem if they are in place.

 

[Hasan123]

Bavuma and Andile are not good enough to be part of a good South African team.

Sipamla is still unproved and if all three pacers played are black it means there is no room for any good/great white pacer in South Africa. That will be a shame knowing those they have produced over the last 20/30 years.

The quotas will always be a problem if they are in place.

Bavuma is a LO player. Don't see him doing much in tests.

Andile has good LO stats and has a character. He is more than good enough.

 

[Justcrazy]

Required rate is over 7 , but Aussies just have a edge here , a few wickets here would tilt the game towards SA

 

[minamino]

You think everything is rubbish. That's your problem. U19 WC doesn't mean much lol. Only 1/2 players will be playing at international level.

MMHS is one of the most knowledgeable posters here , if he is saying South Africa will be fine I would go with that.

MMHS has no knowledge about South African domestic. People like Firdose Moonda know more about it than him and if she's saying that future of SA cricket is bleak then I am gonna take her word for it. You can never trust SA white players, they can run away to England, NZ, Australia any time they want. Their talent pool is so drain that they selected Magala who being a bowler weighs more than Azam Khan. This is how bad SA cricket is at the moment.

 

[Hasan123]

Steve Smith has very good numbers in his last few LO games. Expecting him to have a ridiculous peak in LO.

 

[Justcrazy]

You think everything is rubbish. That's your problem. U19 WC doesn't mean much lol. Only 1/2 players will be playing at international level.

MMHS is one of the most knowledgeable posters here , if he is saying South Africa will be fine I would go with that.

I think they need there new batsmen to mature a bit , also I think they need to find a penetrative spinner in there team.

 

[Hasan123]

MMHS has no knowledge about South African domestic. People like Firdose Moonda know more about it than him and if she's saying that future of SA cricket is bleak then I am gonna take her word for it. You can never trust SA white players, they can run away to England, NZ, Australia any time they want. Their talent pool is so drain that they selected Magala who being a bowler weighs more than Azam Khan. This is how bad SA cricket is at the moment.

They will struggle in tests. But looking at their LO team, they will be a strong team.

 

[Hasan123]

I think they need there new batsmen to mature a bit , also I think they need to find a penetrative spinner in there team.

Maharaj has been selected due to his good numbers in domestic LO cricket.

 

[minamino]

They will struggle in tests. But looking at their LO team, they will be a strong team.

No, they are going Zimbabwe route unless they change their quota rules and they have got financial problems as well like ZC.

 

[sweep_shot]

This match can now go either way.

Aussies need 124 runs from 103 balls (7 wickets in hand).

Smith is the key.

 

[Hasan123]

No, they are going Zimbabwe route unless they change their quota rules and they have got financial problems as well like ZC.

They are not going to go down the Zimbabwe route. Bookmark this post.

 

[Hasan123]

Ngidi strikes. Australia under pressure here.

 

[sweep_shot]

They are not going to go down the Zimbabwe route. Bookmark this post.

Maybe not like Zimbabwe but they are definitely going downhill. They are extremely ordinary currently.

 

[minamino]

They are not going to go down the Zimbabwe route. Bookmark this post.

Losing to Australia twice by 100 odd runs in T20s is already Zimbabwe-esque.

 

[sweep_shot]

Gone!

174/4.

Game on.

 

[minamino]

Maybe not like Zimbabwe but they are definitely going downhill. They are extremely ordinary currently.

They are at WI currently. Even WI will defeat them 9 out of 10 times in T20s right now.

 

[Hasan123]

Beating Australia without Van Der Dussen, Rabada, and Faf, also De Kock failing and being 48-3.

PP reaction = going down the Zimbabwe route.

 

[Mobashir]

Bavuma is a LO player. Don't see him doing much in tests.

Andile has good LO stats and has a character. He is more than good enough.

If bavuma has played so many tests and not so many LOI's for the moment there is a reason. He normally is a long format player.
As a 30 year old he just has 3 List A century and averages 32.

Phehlukwayo' stat are nothing to write home. One fifty in 55 games and non impactful batting shows that he is not even an all rounder, can bat and can bowl category.

 

[Justcrazy]

Ngidi strikes , SA getting wickets

 

[Hasan123]

I thought Darcy Short was an opener lol.

 

[sweep_shot]

They are at WI currently. Even WI will defeat them 9 out of 10 times in T20s right now.

I think West Indies will kill them in T20 and even in ODI. But, West Indies should lose to them in Test.

 

[Hasan123]

If bavuma has played so many tests and not so many LOI's for the moment there is a reason. He normally is a long format player.
As a 30 year old he just has 3 List A century and averages 32.

Phehlukwayo' stat are nothing to write home. One fifty in 55 games and non impactful batting shows that he is not even an all rounder, can bat and can bowl category.

He is improving in LO. He won't be an elite ODI player but will do a good job for SA.

He averages 30 odd with the bat and he is batting at 7. Most of the time he is batting with a few overs left.

 

[minamino]

Beating Australia without Van Der Dussen, Rabada, and Faf, also De Kock failing and being 48-3.

PP reaction = going down the Zimbabwe route.

They haven't beaten them yet.

 

[sweep_shot]

Smith departs.

South Africa really should win this now.

174/5.

 

[Hasan123]

Smith gone. South Africa will win this 1.

 

[Justcrazy]

smith gone , SA right back in the game.

 

[minamino]

Smith is an average ODI player.

 

[Hasan123]

They haven't beaten them yet.

Well the team going down the Zimbabwe route will at least compete with Australia.