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South Africa end Day 2 of the 2nd Test at 382/6 as Pakistan bowlers toil with little success

Just forfeit the game. SA could declare now and the game could finish before lunch tomorrow
 
castortroy said:
Hopefully Yasir will also be benched for the next match
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Spinners aren't needed on pitches like these. South Africa have dropped theirs, and it's not like Yasir Shah is some Shane Warne either.
 
All the people talking about pace seriously need to shut up. This is not a pacy wicket, even Philander was huffing and puffing to 124km/hr and screaming at 127km/hr. This is flat wicket, hardly anything for bowlers except for when the bend their back and bang the ball into the pitch which might get a take off. That requires a lot of hard work. Basically its not the bowlers we should be angry at, its our miserable batsmen.
 
Feel like Faheem Ashraf could have been very useful about now.

Not sure why the management wanted to go in with the same core team that got hammered the last few tests and according to cricinfo, has lost something like 13 of the last 20 tests.
 
Varun said:
Spinners aren't needed on pitches like these. South Africa have dropped theirs, and it's not like Yasir Shah is some Shane Warne either.
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A good off spinning all rounder like Moeen Ali would have been good here. But leg spinner has to be accurate like warne and other end being hold by McGrath. Only then a leg spinner will run through the line ups in such pitches
 
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Faheem should have played in place of Yasir and Rizwan in place of Asad since they don't have any other middle order batsmen in the squad.

We might have had a few more runs in the first innings and Faheem could have made a breakthrough or two.
 
Zakaz said:
All the people talking about pace seriously need to shut up. This is not a pacy wicket, even Philander was huffing and puffing to 124km/hr and screaming at 127km/hr. This is flat wicket, hardly anything for bowlers except for when the bend their back and bang the ball into the pitch which might get a take off. That requires a lot of hard work. Basically its not the bowlers we should be angry at, its our miserable batsmen.
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Disagree completely. There is nothing flat about this wicket by any stretch of the imagination. Inconsistent bounce and cracks and divots from where ball deviates wickedly. Saf have just shown some.application and pakistani bowlers lack the pace to trouble the batsmen.
 
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Holding " Pakistan need batsman who can make ugly runs like Du Plesssis" Faf plays a beautiful cover drive :))
 
Blistering Barnacle said:
Faheem should have played in place of Yasir and Rizwan in place of Asad since they don't have any other middle order batsmen in the squad.

We might have had a few more runs in the first innings and Faheem could have made a breakthrough or two.
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Well I've been saying this for months. Yasir is finished anyway.
 
Zakaz said:
All the people talking about pace seriously need to shut up. This is not a pacy wicket, even Philander was huffing and puffing to 124km/hr and screaming at 127km/hr. This is flat wicket, hardly anything for bowlers except for when the bend their back and bang the ball into the pitch which might get a take off. That requires a lot of hard work. Basically its not the bowlers we should be angry at, its our miserable batsmen.
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Except Philander, the other three South Africans pacers regularly clocked over 140 kmph in this test.
 
I remember the series when Mitchel Johnson absolutely terrorised SA on these bouncy tracks
 
Zakaz said:
All the people talking about pace seriously need to shut up. This is not a pacy wicket, even Philander was huffing and puffing to 124km/hr and screaming at 127km/hr. This is flat wicket, hardly anything for bowlers except for when the bend their back and bang the ball into the pitch which might get a take off. That requires a lot of hard work. Basically its not the bowlers we should be angry at, its our miserable batsmen.
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I thought pace was measured by speed after the release of the ball.
 
Very bad captaincy by Sarfaraz, he has bowled all his fast bowlers 20 overs each, and still around 10 overs are left for new ball, no bowler are fresh and they have to bowl in second inning also
 
South Africa should try to take 200 lead so it won't have to play in 4th inning
 
Rahul1 said:
I don't get this obsession with pace. McGrath rarely bowled above 140 and yet he is most likely the greatest bowler of all time.
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Our bowlers do not have the deathly accuracy of McGrath.If they trundle at 125-127kph they are not likely to pick up any wickets soon.
Especially Amir who is considered a fast bowler not a medium pacer is regularly clocking at 125-135.Its about the effort as well,they need to put more of it.
 
Zakaz said:
All the people talking about pace seriously need to shut up. This is not a pacy wicket, even Philander was huffing and puffing to 124km/hr and screaming at 127km/hr. This is flat wicket, hardly anything for bowlers except for when the bend their back and bang the ball into the pitch which might get a take off. That requires a lot of hard work. Basically its not the bowlers we should be angry at, its our miserable batsmen.
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Philander us a medium pacer.The other 3 quicks consistenly bowled above 140.
And not one person here has absolved the batsmen off any blame.that does not however mean that the bowlers do not need to put in any effort.they are almost 250 and not even half the team is back in the hut.The bowlers have their responsibilty too.
 
Saf did their homework where as pak didnt. Simple as that. To top it up we have one of the worst arrogant captains who has no cricketing brain
 
So much for Abbas being the best bowler in the world. Couldn't knock out an out of form Faf. Masood has looked more threatening than him.
 
Masood has a bowling average of 16

Another candidate for allrounder role [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] :ma
 
Green Patriot said:
Philander us a medium pacer.The other 3 quicks consistenly bowled above 140.
And not one person here has absolved the batsmen off any blame.that does not however mean that the bowlers do not need to put in any effort.they are almost 250 and not even half the team is back in the hut.The bowlers have their responsibilty too.
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thats because our bowlers have no hope. if they had a score to bowl at, like 280, they would be much more charged up. The bowlers know they would just be wasting their energy now because its impossible for our pathetic batting lineup to reach 200.
 
I was watching the match for pakistans bowling , even our bowling is super ordinary now. Dont know where to find respite , india winning as well.
 
JibranAnsari said:
I was watching the match for pakistans bowling , even our bowling is super ordinary now. Dont know where to find respite , india winning as well.
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Lol, actually true, India getting smashed would have brought respite for us :D
 
This must be such a relief for Saffas having faced Indian and Aussie attacks recently.
 
Losing Younis and Misbah was always going hamper the batting the line up further.

Hopefully will see some new faces in the 3rd test.
 
Pakistan bowling is not that good. only three wickets from main bowlers is not great.
 
How long before the new ball is taken? What would experts in this pp forum suggest for Pak to win the next session?
 
Yasir shah is a pointless selection. He is as harmless here as teletubbies. Mickey and co making it an issue of ego by not dropping him.
 
arunpsm said:
How long before the new ball is taken? What would experts in this pp forum suggest for Pak to win the next session?
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2 more overs for the new ball IMO. Pacers must be tired by now, especially Amir and Abbas. They will waste the new ball.

Should give 10 overs to Yasir/Shan and then take the new ball.
 
JibranAnsari said:
I was watching the match for pakistans bowling , even our bowling is super ordinary now. Dont know where to find respite , india winning as well.
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You can be happy knowing that an Asian team is finally winning a series in Australia.
 
Madplayer said:
Yasir shah is a pointless selection. He is as harmless here as teletubbies. Mickey and co making it an issue of ego by not dropping him.
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You are talking as if other bowlers have been doing great. His role is hold one end and help rotate seamers.Seamers have to pick up wickets.
 
jadaja said:
You are talking as if other bowlers have been doing great. His role is hold one end and help rotate seamers.Seamers have to pick up wickets.
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Yasir is not a spinner that can contain.

He needs to be a wicket-taker.
 
Zakaz said:
thats because our bowlers have no hope. if they had a score to bowl at, like 280, they would be much more charged up. The bowlers know they would just be wasting their energy now because its impossible for our pathetic batting lineup to reach 200.
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They need to their job irrespective of whether the batsmen can bat the next innings or not.This is not an excuse that whatevar we do the batsmen will not reach that score anyways so lets just not put in any effort and let the game take its course.if that is the mentality than its bogus and you know it.
 
Yasir is not the problem. Problem is other three seamers, they are not at all effective.
 
Please let Yasir bowl a couple more before new ball, he is really smelling a wicket here
 
You select two all rounders ie Faheem Ashraf and Shadab Khan but don't play them in South Africa?
 
For their own good Pakistan should give it their all in the 2nd batting innings and show some fight.

Then hopefully carry on the momentum into the next test and see what happens.

They're looking like a balloon that has exploded after a 1000 cuts at the moment.
 
Lol why won't you take new ball when it has been available for some 2-3 overs now?
Pathetic captaincy.
 
Pakistan cricket is finished
These are best available players.
Saad, Saud , usman all are just average players.
Now bowling department is also poor because aizaz chema is still our best domestic bowler along with right handed kokri ( M irfan junior)
 
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