South Africa v Australia | 2nd Test | Port Elizabeth | Day 1 | 20/02/2014

[proteyeah]

One trick poney, is the pitch slower then the last one? From cricinfo it seem his speed was between 137-149. Average around 143 i guess. I don't know why people think he is express like Bret Lee.

If you read anything since the last test you'd know they don't think he is as fast as Bret Lee. They think he is the fastest bowler in the history of the universe. I've been rolling my eyes so much I look like a slot machine.

 

[cricket sport]

AB destroy confidence of jonno

 

[Convict]

If you read anything since the last test you'd know they don't think he is as fast as Bret Lee. They think he is the fastest bowler in the history of the universe. I've been rolling my eyes so much I look like a slot machine.

Your batsman played him as if he were Jeff Thomson on steroids

 

[proteyeah]

Quite convinced that we're on top here. The Saffers will want to play some shots at some point

Overs 60-80 after tea S.A will look to try and dominate.

 

[proteyeah]

Your batsman played him as if he were Jeff Thomson on steroids

The pitch was more than helping him. Haven't seen anyone flinch today have you ?

 

[Jo_Don]

One trick poney, is the pitch slower then the last one? From cricinfo it seem his speed was between 137-149. Average around 143 i guess. I don't know why people think he is express like Bret Lee.

Pitch is much slower, and not as much bounce.

 

[Convict]

The pitch was more than helping him. Haven't seen anyone flinch today have you ?

And?
Doesn't change Centurion at all.

 

[proteyeah]

Your batsman played him as if he were Jeff Thomson on steroids

You're media were pathetic about it. One journalist asked "Can you even prepare a wicket Johnson won't destroy a batting team on ?"

I just giggled and reminded myself "Ah yes, Australians."

 

[Buffet]

is the pitch slower then the last one? .

It's a slow pitch with a consistent bounce. All grass has been shaved off as well.

 

[proteyeah]

These two must tick it over and get going after tea. Try get the run rate over 3 and start to dominant. I see the Aussie bowlers getting very flat after tea.

 

[saj786]

Dissapointing wicket, slow, shows clearly boks fear the aus pace attack

 

[Jo_Don]

Dissapointing wicket, slow, shows clearly boks fear the aus pace attack

PE has always been slow and low.

 

[trogger]

So whats a par score here maybe 350-380?

Not a lot in it but at the same time scoring freely won't be that easy so 350 would put SA in a pretty strong position.

be interesting to see what steyn and co get out of the pitch.

 

[Buffet]

Dissapointing wicket, slow, shows clearly boks fear the aus pace attack

Not different from previous pitches in this venue.

 

[style_guru]

Some saffers are getting too excited I can see. I say let's wait for the game to finish.

 

[Convict]

So whats a par score here maybe 350-380?

Not a lot in it but at the same time scoring freely won't be that easy so 350 would put SA in a pretty strong position.

be interesting to see what steyn and co get out of the pitch.

Barry Richards called it a 400 wicket during the second over of the day

 

[Buffet]

So whats a par score here maybe 350-380?

Par score - 300 in the last 10-15 years. I think 330 is a par score here right now.

 

[saiyan0312]

Well for the session it was SA. Faf and elgar really grinded it out and elgar could end up playing a masterful gem.m

 

[Dandango]

Dissapointing wicket, slow, shows clearly boks fear the aus pace attack

The PE wicket is always slow, if south africa fear aussie pace attack then why is the game not played in Bloemfontein on a flat track the biggest ground in south africa.

 

[kinventor]

Pitch is much slower, and not as much bounce.

And just saw Johnson bowling at 131kph, it seem he has given up already. Not much point bending your back on slower pitch. Overrated bowler, and some people though he is already better then styen.

Styen is bowler for all kind of pitches.

 

[Convict]

The PE wicket is always slow, if south africa fear aussie pace attack then why is the game not played in Bloemfontein on a flat track the biggest ground in south africa.

Probably because comptent boards generally organise matches well in advance.

 

[proteyeah]

Actually I think the S.A bowlers will be quite difficult on this pitch. Steyn through the air with his swing, Vern to nip it around.

 

[Haz95]

LOL. Cricinfo love the aussies cos in one quote it said 'johnsons slower ball is a normal medium pacer' and the commentator said that's Zaheer at his hardest ) )

And Johnson had a hint of swing in the air. Hopefully Steyn will be a handful and prove that Johnson is just a guy in good form. Why are people suggesting he's an express? He's no Shoaib, Lee, Bond Waqar etc.

 

[proteyeah]

Some saffers are getting too excited I can see. I say let's wait for the game to finish.

You don't think some Aussies and media people got over excited after the first test ? They lost their minds ! I've never seen such a demonstration of unwarranted over confidence and arrogance.

With all the insults throw at the South African team did you expect there not to be a few words when we got on top of them ? If you want to dish it out then prepare to suck it up when the boot is on the other foot.

 

[Convict]

You don't think some Aussies and media people got over excited after the first test ? They lost their minds ! I've never seen such a demonstration of unwarranted over confidence and arrogance.

With all the insults throw at the South African team did you expect there not to be a few words when we got on top of them ? If you want to dish it out then prepare to suck it up when the boot is on the other foot.

Graeme Smith 2005/06

 

[Buffet]

Johnson's speed is really slow here. He is bowling at 130 now. Keep him out for long and it may drop more

 

[cricket sport]

hopefully sa shows ozzies where they belong

 

[Haz95]

Watching this fielding as a Pakistani makes me jealous

 

[proteyeah]

Johnson's speed is really slow here. He is bowling at 130 now. Keep him out for long it may drop more

He will be bowling pies soon. And if Lyon comes on De Villiers must put him out the ground for a few. Force the Aussies to feel some pain for going with only 3 seamers.

 

[Haz95]

Harris is the jamshed of bowlers. Can't tell if he's fat or hench

 

[proteyeah]

De Villiers looking to up the rate with the old ball now. Dangerous times for Aussies.

 

[Haz95]

workhorse siddle with express 125kph deliveries

 

[proteyeah]

workhorse siddle with express 125kph deliveries

Best bowling attack in the world. As he tells us himself. Show some respect.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Johnson has bowled 15 out of 60 overs. Wearing him out may have been Elgar's job after all. Looks a bit less threatening and his pace is down. If SA can capitalise and score heavily they might just get the edge. Shows the difference between SA and England. saffers always come back hard like they're doing right now

 

[Haz95]

lol fat harris averaging 138 and they philander philtrundler. Tbh still a good bowler tho...He was hitting 148ish in previous test

 

[saj786]

Some bufoonish posts here, if aus were to roll every Team inside 40 overs every time then the opposition May well Not bother, its called TEST CRICKET

 

[Bilal7]

With Duminy, Knock, Philander still to come, 300+ looks like a surety. The bowling needs to bowl out the Aussies cheaply though.

 

[proteyeah]

Some bufoonish posts here, if aus were to roll every Team inside 40 overs every time then the opposition May well Not bother, its called TEST CRICKET

It was them who were going on like this is what they expected to do. That was the bufoonish part of it.

 

[Haz95]

workhorse cranking it to 120kph...That's gonna trouble himself

 

[Convict]

It was them who were going on like this is what they expected to do. That was the bufoonish part of it.

quotes please

 

[hk031992]

Wonder if Elgar can make it a hundred

 

[soso_killer]

Just got home really struggling to adapt to my new environment, how is the pitch playing? I miss the old job with my secretary having TV in the next room.

 

[Buffet]

Harris is the jamshed of bowlers. Can't tell if he's fat or hench

lol fat harris averaging 138

Harris is not fat. His built is that way. 138 is actually a good speed when you have only 3 fast bowlers on a slow track. He is bowling faster than Johnson.

That's why I always maintain that bowlers, who bowl for a whole test for 140+ on flatter tracks, are genuine quick by any definition.

SA needs to capitalize on tiring bowlers. People often underestimate how hard it is bowl for fast bowlers if you keep them out for a very long period. Even Steyn was having problems in last Indian series because he was bowling so many overs in first test. I am not talking about taking wickets here but simply able to bowl with some venom.

 

[hk031992]

I do think these two need to stick around for a long time. De kock is on debut, duminny is out of form and simply not very good. These two need to add another 80 runs atleast

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Lyon has to be demolished here. Puts more pressure on quicks. AUS bowlers are not effective over longer spells. Certainly not on these kinda wickets.

 

[Haz95]

Harris is not fat. His built is that way. 138 is actually a good speed when you have only 3 fast bowlers on a slow track. He is bowling faster than Johnson.

That's why I always maintain that bowlers, who bowl for a whole test for 140+ on flatter tracks, are genuine quick by any definition.

SA needs to capitalize on tiring bowlers. People often underestimate how hard it is bowl for fast bowlers if you keep them out for a very long period. Even Steyn was having problems in last Indian series because he was bowling so many overs in first test. I am not talking about taking wickets here but simply able to bowl with some venom.

yeh I can't tell if he's fat or like hench/built

 

[Haz95]

This is usually where Watson would come and take a wicket....

 

[Buffet]

how is the pitch playing?

Slow with a consistent bounce. Not easy to score quick but not easy to pick up wickets as well.

 

[EarthBoltX]

I love seeing how relieved we all are when Johnson for once gets little success. )

 

[soso_killer]

This pitch does not even look green. Looks like it will be hard for either side to get 20 wickets on this pitch. But lets wait and see.

 

[Buffet]

Lyon has to be demolished here.

Doing that will be the key for SA. It will leave Clarke with very little option. But Lyon can pick up wickets as well . It has to be done by AB here. He can play spin well. SA needs to score bit faster now.

 

[Buffet]

This pitch does not even look green.

All grass was shaved off. More than I expected.

 

[WebGuru]

What is warner doing lol

 

[proteyeah]

I love seeing how relieved we all are when Johnson for once gets little success. )

Or how upset it makes the Aussies. I heard an Aussie commentator off air saying"rubbish pitch". They're all in a sulk. Tough to win when you're one trick card doesn't turn up. What's plan B Australia ?

 

[soso_killer]

Poor shot by Elgar

 

[proteyeah]

Oh Dean !

Anyway well played. Had to go after the spinner.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Doing that will be the key for SA. It will leave Clarke with very little option. But Lyon can pick up wickets as well . It has to be done by AB here. He can play spin well. SA needs to score bit faster now.

Yeah Lyon is a good spinner but Sa have to take their chances. They need to score aggressively and let AUS crumble under scoreboard pressure. They can't score much tomorrow morning as the quicks will be fresh again. Next 20 overs are extremely crucial if SA are to win.

 

[WebGuru]

Elgar give up

 

[Haz95]

what a waste of a wicket

 

[Convict]

Garry has a habit of breaking key partnerships.

Underated part of this attack

 

[Convict]

Or how upset it makes the Aussies. I heard an Aussie commentator off air saying"rubbish pitch". They're all in a sulk. Tough to win when you're one trick card doesn't turn up. What's plan B Australia ?

Garry I guess

 

[soso_killer]

Losing a wicket with 11 overs before the new ball is just criminal

 

[saiyan0312]

Elgar gone!

 

[Haz95]

Quinton playing

 

[Convict]

4/181 is pretty good at this stage for Australia

 

[trogger]

quotes please

Don't bother he's a troll.

he made some rubbish posts about the aussie team calling SA scared, i posted a quote from johnson where he stated the exact opposite and was actually defending smith i then asked him for quotes proving what he alleged and he just ignored it.

Obvious troll.

 

[Buffet]

Wrong person was trying to take on spinner here. It should be AB.

 

[Pantani]

Or how upset it makes the Aussies. I heard an Aussie commentator off air saying"rubbish pitch". They're all in a sulk. Tough to win when you're one trick card doesn't turn up. What's plan B Australia ?

You don't need a plan B when you have the opposition four down, with less than 200 on the board, 10 overs away from getting a new ball on day 1. Australia have the lead right now, South Africa are a wicket away from being on the ropes.

 

[Buffet]

Quinton needs to be careful with shots here. No slogging right now.

 

[leatherface58]

Proteyeah is soso's unchecked version. The insecurity in that Saffer..oh my.. I better ZIP it before I get an infraction.

 

[Haz95]

Why quinton out of all people. Look how pressured he is
Another . Out of all series' they give him the Aus series to debut.

 

[Mr Consistent]

dean elgar gone
well played top knock at crucial time

 

[trogger]

I worry about some of our lot batting on this pitch, not a difficult pitch unless you try and force what isn't there, we have a lot more of those restless bats than SA do.

be interesting to see if our top 6 have the patience to grind out the runs if SA keep it tight for long periods.

 

[Haz95]

QDK first runs a

 

[Convict]

I worry about some of our lot batting on this pitch, not a difficult pitch unless you try and force what isn't there, we have a lot more of those restless bats than SA do.

be interesting to see if our top 6 have the patience to grind out the runs if SA keep it tight for long periods.

I'm expecting that Shaun Marsh will do his typical fluent 35 and out lbw after leaving.

 

[IndianWillow]

Two good partnerships. They need to get to 350+ now.

 

[Mr Consistent]

7k runs for ab in test cricket

 

[Mr Consistent]

AB is the second-fastest South African to 7000 runs behind Smith and level with Kallis

 

[Mr Consistent]

4 by AB

 

[Convict]

Brilliant Smith

Absolutely horrid shot though