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South Africa v England | 1st test | Centurion | 16-20 Dec 09

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Strauss out!

England 5 for 1

Anderson comes in as night watchmen
 
England 11 for one at the end of day 4

Morne Morkel bowling brilliantly and Harris getting lots of turn at the deteriorating 'Hennops River End'

I think that England will have to pray to the rain gods this evening... It work for moyo :)
 
that was some seriously good bowling by Morkel...kudos to Anderson as well, showed guts and determination
 
Ahmed Zulfiqar said:
that was some seriously good bowling by Morkel...kudos to Anderson as well, showed guts and determination

When Morne is bowling well than he is really dangerous but he lacks consistency. He is 6ft 5 inches tall and so he gets good bounce and he can bowl in the region of 145-150 kph and has the ability to swing it both ways
 
Some graft and guts need from England tomorrow to salvage a draw!
 
Amjid Javed said:
Some graft and guts need from England tomorrow to salvage a draw!


The Hennops river end is in a really bad condition. Harris was getting some good purchase bowlintg in the 'rough'.

Only rain can save England
 
Khalil said:
Only rain can save England

I'm reminded of the 1995 test where Atherton batted for the whole of the last day, ending on 185* to save the match.....
 
Robert said:
I'm reminded of the 1995 test where Atherton batted for the whole of the last day, ending on 185* to save the match.....


The wicket was 'batting friendly' in the 1995 test. The Hennops river end is really bad. Have you watched the ball that bowled Amla? Have you seen the turn Harris is getting from that end.

I cannot see history repeating itself on this surface
 
Khalil said:
The Hennops river end is in a really bad condition. Harris was getting some good purchase bowlintg in the 'rough'.

Only rain can save England

No man, Pietersen is still to come, Bell still has to ring, Cook is still out there, Colly is still waiting, so are Prior and Trotty....not forgetting Swann......but here is something for your rain thing:

"7.00 pm Gnasher, our man at the ground, has this rather interesting update: "Here's something for England fans to cling to, there is a massive storm just approaching the ground. Fork lightning coming down and the wind has really got up. Looks like the end of the world out there. Oh, the joy of an open press box."

That's it from me, Sahil and Andrew Miller, I hope you'll join us tomorrow for the conclusion to this Test, play gets underway at 10.30am (8.30 GMT) and it should be a cracking finish.

Until then, there is plenty to entertain you with Andrew Miller's end-of-day bulletin, the sparkling gallery, the rather exciting video verdicts that will arrive soon, and of course, you can debate all the action on our Facebook page.

Amla and de Villiers stole the initiative from England midway through the day and South Africa have not looked back. The wicket of Strauss, England's linchpin, before the close, gives them a massive opportunity tomorrow, provided the rains stay away. " thats from cricinfo
 
cricket_fever said:
No man, Pietersen is still to come, Bell still has to ring, Cook is still out there, Colly is still waiting, so are Prior and Trotty....not forgetting Swann......but here is something for your rain thing:

"7.00 pm Gnasher, our man at the ground, has this rather interesting update: "Here's something for England fans to cling to, there is a massive storm just approaching the ground. Fork lightning coming down and the wind has really got up. Looks like the end of the world out there. Oh, the joy of an open press box."

That's it from me, Sahil and Andrew Miller, I hope you'll join us tomorrow for the conclusion to this Test, play gets underway at 10.30am (8.30 GMT) and it should be a cracking finish.

Until then, there is plenty to entertain you with Andrew Miller's end-of-day bulletin, the sparkling gallery, the rather exciting video verdicts that will arrive soon, and of course, you can debate all the action on our Facebook page.

Amla and de Villiers stole the initiative from England midway through the day and South Africa have not looked back. The wicket of Strauss, England's linchpin, before the close, gives them a massive opportunity tomorrow, provided the rains stay away. " thats from cricinfo


Just 15 minutes after close of play the heaven in Pretoria opened up and it started pouring and rain is expected for tomorrow.

It was a miracle that the there was no rain in Pretoria for 3 succesive days

I cannot see England saving that game on that wicket unless rain interupts play
 
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Khalil said:
Just 15 minutes after close of play the heaven in Pretoria opened up and it started pouring and rain is expected for tomorrow.

It was a miracle that the there was no rain in Pretoria for 3 succesive days

I cannot see England saving that game on that wicket unless rain interupts play

cummon man we are talking about english batsmen and not our pakistanis
 
rain looks quite likely. wooo
a stalemate looks fair enough to me. unless we really muck it up tomorrow I don't think we deserve to lose. neither team has been that good.
 
if it doesn't rain, then it'll be over in the 1st session tomorrow
 
Khalil said:
When Morne is bowling well than he is really dangerous but he lacks consistency. He is 6ft 5 inches tall and so he gets good bounce and he can bowl in the region of 145-150 kph and has the ability to swing it both ways

He has all the tools to be a top bowler - but he is not able to bowl a consistent line and length. His action is irregular in that it looks a little different every ball, he bowls on tip toes too. Will always struggle for consistency unless he tightens it up.

Haven't really followed this match but I assume South Africa are beating England (aka South Africa A). No surprise there.
 
Random Aussie said:
Haven't really followed this match but I assume South Africa are beating England (aka South Africa A). No surprise there.

It's been closer than you think.
 
Anderson out!

Debutant De Wet gets his second wicket

Eng 12/2 and in trouble
 
De Wet is currently the fastest bowler in S.A and his first over of the day was really hostile
 
thunderstorms won't come until teatime at the earliest, if at all :( looks like we will actually have to bat this one out for once, and not just sit in the pavilion sipping tea. basically we just need 1 or 2 quality partnerships and we should scrape it - this could be one of them.
 
Down to KP and Trott now...Can the two Saffers save England? ;-)

If there is no weather interruption, SA should win comfortably
 
I still refuse to accept that Harris is actually a good bowler. The match situation is allowing Smith to set the most outrageous fields around the bat, and Cook has always been rubbish against spin. Cook needs to be replaced in my view, or else he will never improve, he has been allowed to make the same mistakes again and again for years because they haven't had the balls to open with anybody else.

I hope we get away with this today. Usually if we scramble a draw in the first test after being outplayed, we feel some kind of lift and get a lot better throughout the rest of the series.
 
Whippy said:
I still refuse to accept that Harris is actually a good bowler. The match situation is allowing Smith to set the most outrageous fields around the bat, and Cook has always been rubbish against spin. Cook needs to be replaced in my view, or else he will never improve, he has been allowed to make the same mistakes again and again for years because they haven't had the balls to open with anybody else.

I hope we get away with this today. Usually if we scramble a draw in the first test after being outplayed, we feel some kind of lift and get a lot better throughout the rest of the series.


Imran Tahir is a much better bowler than Harris.

Rain expected at 3pm S.A time and I think England will get lucky
 
KP is a class above the rest of the top order on this pitch. Looks completely comfortable. I know he will probably be out by lunch and we'll lose by a lot, but little moments of the game like those few boundaries show his class. Trott 8 off 60 balls, and KP 24 off 30 balls.
 
Trott lucky to survive runnout, courtesy to sloppy fielding from duminy
 
is that really such a bad session for England? 70 runs scored, best player in and playing well, only lost an opener and a nightwatchman. SA have to do something special to win this, it is heading for a draw at the moment - if the worst happens and we lose Pietersen and Trott, we still have Bell, Col, Prior and Swann to bat.
 
Whippy said:
is that really such a bad session for England? 70 runs scored, best player in and playing well, only lost an opener and a nightwatchman.

Good point. Trott is making their spinner look like Tony Lock but at least he is staying in.

Colly is adhesive but Dingdong is a gutless wonder and you would not expect Prior to hang around long in this situation. At least we have Draco and Swanny to provide a last line of defence.
 
as much as Trott is looking out of his depth in the scoring stakes, it doesn't matter. if we finish the day 102/9 and it's the most boring match ever to the rest of the world, I don't care, the only column that matters now is the wickets column, I just realllllly don't want to lose here or else I anticipate a very long painful series.
 
Trott's gonna get worked over. The pitch has deteriorated - if he keeps trying to dead bat every ball, eventually he's gonna lob a catch to a close-in spinner when the pitch misbehaves. I've seen this method tried before, and it never works. Anyone remember Tendulkar soldiering on for 96 balls for his 16 runs until Shahid Afridi worked him out? Bangalore 2005? If someone like Tendulkar can get out playing that defensively, I wouldn't put it past Harris to get Trott out unless he gets a little more positive.

On a side note, how exactly has Paul Harris taken 71 Test wickets at 32? Baffling.
 
Oh, and excuse me for a moment, while I have a hearty laugh

Khalil said:
Moyo can only bat on flat tracks against mediocre bowling. Amla is a better batsmen. Moyo would never have been in the Protea side had he been South African
:))) :))) :)))
 
Easa said:
Oh, and excuse me for a moment, while I have a hearty laugh


:))) :))) :)))


Moyo's test average in South Africa - 26

Moyo's test average in Australia - 33

Moyo's average against Bangladesh - 276

These stats prove that moyo is a flat track bully who is clueless on fast or bouncy tracks.

The only reason why moyo has a high test average because he big averages against mediocre teams like bangladesh and Zimbabwe.


Moyo is a mother of all flat track bullies
 
Whippy said:
I just realllllly don't want to lose here or else I anticipate a very long painful series.

Yeah, SA will get stronger when Steyn comes back. This was England's best chance to win, I think.

All we can do now is scrap like mad, hang on, and hope to catch them napping somewhere and pinch a test.
 
Khalil said:
Moyo's test average in South Africa - 26

Moyo's test average in Australia - 33

Moyo's average against Bangladesh - 276

These stats prove that moyo is a flat track bully who is clueless on fast or bouncy tracks.

The only reason why moyo has a high test average because he big averages against mediocre teams like bangladesh and Zimbabwe.


Moyo is a mother of all flat track bullies
Putting your pointless and irrelevant comments in bold doesn't give them any more weight. Just makes you look like a prat.

I thought this issue has been discussed and your arguments refuted around 25 times already? Yousuf has scored runs, and tonnes of them, against quality bowling attacks...whether its a fit and firing Ambrose and Walsh.... a gung-ho and pacy Harmison and Freddie... very fast Taylor, Edwards, et al.... he's scored them on green tops in England, New Zealand and Zimbabwe (back when they were a better Test team than Pak, at least going by bilateral results), and he's scored them on barren tracks elsewhere. Not sure what your point is. If you're saying he's not scored in SA, then who cares? SA is not the be-all and end-all of the world, contrary to what you might like to think.......... Its just a lame corner of a lame continent ;-)
 
Pieterse survives plumb LBW , courtesy to a 'no ball'
 
He deserved that luck with the marginal no-ball being picked upon. He was bowled off a no-ball in the first innings while playing well. If he had been out to two no-balls in the match it would have been dreadfully unlucky, and actually a bit of a disgrace, considering how seriously this joke 'referral system' is being taken.
 
Pieterson scores his 16th 50 in test cricket.

A draw seems to be the most likely result now
 
Pietersen is, perhaps, the best driver of the cricket ball in the game.
 
South Africa getting desperate and appealing for everything
 
wanabee said:
14 South African players on ground at the moment

Reminds me of the Lord's test in 1991. WI were bowling, and DeFreitas and Lawrence were batting. One umpire was John Holder, so the other ump was the only man on the field born in England and not the Caribbean.
 
Whippy said:
Might not even need the rain.

Yeah, apart from the odd shooter, it's looking comfy. Fine resistance by our two African mercenaries.

Maybe Fattis will really crock himself for Durban now. ;-)
 
Thread title should be changed to:

South Africa v South Africa | 1st test | Centurion | 16-20 Dec 09
 
Kallis vs England in SA with the ball: average 57, strike rate 116.
 
Pietersen runout 81

What a moron! The run was not on, not even in 20/20
 
For a good player Pietersen has brain farts of Pakistani proportions.

Salman Butt would have been proud of that one.
 
I reckon trott should have trotted on and let himself get out rather then pietersen... as KP is more then likley to give half a chance of england winning the game, trott will not.
 
de Wet to Trott, out Caught by de Villiers at 3rd slip!! Trott c de Villiers b de Wet 69(212) [4s-7]
81.4
de Wet to Trott, THATS OUT!! Caught!!
 
de Wet to Trott, out Caught by de Villiers at 3rd slip!! That's one of the best catches you'd ever get to see, fraction short and rises up on the batsman from nowhere, Trott hung his bat at that one, flew off the outside edge, ABD dived to his left, full stretch and plucked that from thin air, superb one-handed catch. Aww, that was a beauty! Trott c de Villiers b de Wet 69(212) [4s-7]
 
Here's Dingdong to lose the match for England in another tragic pants-filling episode.
 
207 for 6

Another wicket for the debutant De wet who at times bowled over 150 kph
 
Khalil said:
Centurion is Matt Prior's home ground :)
Wow. I just realized that there are four South African born players in the English team. South Africa vs South Africa :)))
 
debutant DeWet of Fire!

Prior out . 208 for 7 and South Africa are smelling a win
 
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