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South Africa v India | 2nd ODI | Johannesburg| Jan 15, 2011

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So losing 4 out of 60 games is something I should feel ashamed of ?

Trust me I'd rather be the "chocker" who wins 90% of the time that the loser who gets a win in a blue moon.

Yes u are that choker who never won the worldcup :P Too bad isnt it ?? :D
 
I feel the same. India is a bunch of overhyped nothings who are not much good. I am shocked and consider it a fluke they won a game against us. We have absolute zero respect for Indian cricket.

Some people just don't learn.

But can happen when you make an absolute fool of yourself on a forum with 3-0 and 5-0 predictions.
 
Dhoni: "It's a big win for us. We were short of 40-45 runs. We got a slow but a good start. Yuvraj got out just before we were about to take the powerplay. Then we had to postpone it. Then when we took it, Raina fell first ball. Harbhjan's role was crucial. When Bhaji came they decided not to take him on and lost a bit of momentum . Munaf has been bowling well for us in the last 10-20 games he has played. The part-timers also have bowled well. Yuvraj is our main batsman at no 4. He can dictate terms. Once he crosses 10-15 runs, you can see that he bats fantastically. Two gone, three more to go; we are expecting some tough cricket."
 
Smith "Congrats MS and his team. We played some good cricket for 70 overs but our game in the back end wasn't good enough. We now have to regroup. I would have liked to be there a little longer. Couple of soft dismissals, bad decision making and ... The pitch was slow and stopped a bit .. shot making was difficult. Credit to India. Tsotsobe bowled incredibly well. Unfortunately we weren't good enough to get over the line."
 
what culture? we as muslims dont kill anybody, those people are criminals and criminals exist in every culture it has nothing to do with our religion or culture! dont complicate it
we live here with non islamic people, nobody kills anybody! who told u this crap ??
yeah so is it bad to fight for ur right ? if America invades SA are u gonna sit and see ur relatives getting killed or raped?? surely u will raise weapons!!
SELF DEFENCE IS NOT A CRIME....

Hey ! Yuu're barking up the wrong tree ! I am against this islamaphobia that has gotten America by the balls. But ! I think, and this is a very important part of Western culture, that I am responsible for my culture and what exudes from it. Hence when Westerm culture messes up, as is often does, I fight against it. Why in the past years have I yet to hear from a Islamic group that fights strongly to be distanced from the violence of Fundamentalists ?


It's not good enough when a Western (Sorry I am not Christian) orginisation causes terrible chaos for me to say "But there are many good western people". I need to make the non Western people understand I am against such a deed. You want to stop the West to hate Islam ? Easy ! Just come out and say "We do not promote killing innocent people". Why aren't you doing that ?
 
You mean how voluntarily we voted out a racist system, whilst never promoting violence as a way to secure power ?

Funny yet many still support a cultural system that promotes the murder of other cultures as something gallant. Look, I can take care of myself and control myself from killing other. When someone can't I will try stop them or berate them. All I expect of you as an equal is the same.

dude take it down a notch before you get banned.
 
So losing 4 out of 60 games is something I should feel ashamed of ?

Trust me I'd rather be the "chocker" who wins 90% of the time that the loser who gets a win in a blue moon.


No more pretzels for you , you choker :amir
 
Awesome win!!!! I am really thrilled with this win. Never thought that we will win this match.
 
So why support it ? I didn't berate Islam. I berated a culure that exists (whether you like it or not) that holds dear the concept of killing non islamic people. If Islam is against it I want to see more Islamic people tell me so. When America invaded Iraq I was sure vocal and loud about why I thought it was wrong and why I didn't want to be associated with such actions. Never seen an Islamic march for anti Islamic fundametalism that promotes murder of other races. Is that too much to ask ?

You've probably never heard of them becuase of the News. You don't know what goes on in the World.

Just because the media hasn't reported "muslims" carrying out good deeds, doesn't means we're all bad. Every culture, religions has its criminals and murders and rapists etc.

For example:
The conflict between between muslims and christians in Egypt.
The media always discuss how this many christians were murdered by muslims etc.

http://www.metrolic.com/egyptian-muslim-protect-coptic-christians-on-christmas-day-155882/

Stories like the ones above you probably never even heard of, have you? Only the ones the about Muslims being bad, where are the ones discussing the other 99% good hearted muslims?
 
Im not a big fan of south african cricket but the main reason why they never won a world cup is cause they peaked at the same time australia was dominating world cricket. Not because their chockers.
 
Can't see SA winning any more matches now in the series. Once India get started SA just get blown away.. like in test series they won't be able to beat India now ..
SA will lose 4-1 .. time for some excuses by smith and co .. :D
Wht a crap team SA .. No class at all ..
 
dude take it down a notch before you get banned.

Nice. The whole world wants an even playing field, but they don't want to play by the rules. You want special rights. When you screw up you want it to be explained away and never take responsibility for it. How much longer do you expect the west to accept this ?

Personal responsibility is all we ask for. How about when your group screws up you are as angry about it as when our group screws up ? What is so wrong with that idea ?

Racists !
 
mate i will watch your team match today

hope pak win test and series in kiwis land

ok mate, yeah inshallah we will.
well i wish u guys best of luck as well, but u must admit that if india carries on playing like this there wont be much joy for them in the remaining matches as this was just a fluke that ended up well for them:misbah
 
Nice. The whole world wants an even playing field, but they don't want to play by the rules. You want special rights. When you screw up you want it to be explained away and never take responsibility for it. How much longer do you expect the west to accept this ?

Personal responsibility is all we ask for. How about when your group screws up you are as angry about it as when our group screws up ? What is so wrong with that idea ?

Racists !



That's not it. This is totally unrelated to the thread. There are plenty of thread on TimePass discussing this, you should go there.
 
Can't see SA winning any more matches now in the series. Once India get started SA just get blown away.. like in test series they won't be able to beat India now ..
SA will lose 4-1 .. time for some excuses by smith and co .. :D
Wht a crap team SA .. No class at all ..

ok:hafeez
 
ok mate, yeah inshallah we will.
well i wish u guys best of luck as well, but u must admit that if india carries on playing like this there wont be much joy for them in the remaining matches as this was just a fluke that ended up well for them:misbah

we missed viru and gauti .
 
Im not a big fan of south african cricket but the main reason why they never won a world cup is cause they peaked at the same time australia was dominating world cricket. Not because their chockers.

how far they got in the WCs???
 
Hey ! Yuu're barking up the wrong tree ! I am against this islamaphobia that has gotten America by the balls. But ! I think, and this is a very important part of Western culture, that I am responsible for my culture and what exudes from it. Hence when Westerm culture messes up, as is often does, I fight against it. Why in the past years have I yet to hear from a Islamic group that fights strongly to be distanced from the violence of Fundamentalists ?


It's not good enough when a Western (Sorry I am not Christian) orginisation causes terrible chaos for me to say "But there are many good western people". I need to make the non Western people understand I am against such a deed. You want to stop the West to hate Islam ? Easy ! Just come out and say "We do not promote killing innocent people". Why aren't you doing that ?

First of all why do we clearify something which we never did?? secondly its America who created these voilent fundamentalist...ur missing the point mate! its a cycle. Americans poke their noses everywhere and then comes the reaction!! Why dont u come out and accept that terrorism in Iraq, Palestine, Kashmir and Afghanistan is wrong? why dont u see that? cuz u never saw these issues in the media. U are one of them who believe whatever media shows them. Get ur facts right and then come out with ur einstine philosphys....
 
You've probably never heard of them becuase of the News. You don't know what goes on in the World.

Just because the media hasn't reported "muslims" carrying out good deeds, doesn't means we're all bad. Every culture, religions has its criminals and murders and rapists etc.

For example:
The conflict between between muslims and christians in Egypt.
The media always discuss how this many christians were murdered by muslims etc.

http://www.metrolic.com/egyptian-muslim-protect-coptic-christians-on-christmas-day-155882/

Stories like the ones above you probably never even heard of, have you? Only the ones the about Muslims being bad, where are the ones discussing the other 99% good hearted muslims?

I respect what you are saying. And yes the western media is anti islam. I'm a very liberal guy. But to keep supporting Islam I need to feel there are people out there who are Islamic who show me that they don't support these violent acts, If I was Islamic and I saw what has heppened in recent years I would make it my life cause to show people this is not part of my beliefs. If you did that there would be no hate for Islam. Basically take responsibility for your beliefs. If you did it strongly enough there would not be kids out there who thought it was cool to blow people up.
 
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