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South Africa vs Pakistan | 1st Test | Johannesburg | 2/2/13 | Day 2

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Paradox said:
We haven't batted poorly - barring the shot of Shafiq and MAYBE Azhar's, those deliveries would usually get most of other batsmen around the world out, too.
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Just Shafiq's really. & you can add in Gul.

Azhar was out to a beauty.
 
IAJ said:
Oh listen Einstein, sis shot would have been stupid even in LOIs. You play cricket with controlled aggression, not just throwing your bat at everything.

50 overs are enough to score 200 runs with proper cricket shots.
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Not with the bounce, swing, seam and accuracy these SA pacers are producing. Especially when we're not used to these conditions.

You HAVE to play yourself in.
 
Equinox said:
When Bangladesh last toured South Africa our lowest score in the series was 121. I think Pakistan's Test status needs to be reviewed.
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:))) A fine trolling effort it has to be said.
 
Wow what a super hammering!!

And now for the non-existant tail, crickey this might be over in a jiffy!

Lame batting, tame the ball a bit knock it out of shape and it won't do so much rather than playing out 20 maidens ina row, no wonder why they're all sitting back in the pavillion having lunch.

This batting line up does not know what a counter attack is, and its required in situations like today when the heat is on.

There's me thinking there is no womens cricket on today!!
 
Shehzad is a batsmen with a solid back-foot technique.

He's a proper batsmen who likes to take the attack to the bowlers.
 
Wonder what India would have managed under the same conditions - 150/7 perhaps?

You have to score at 3-4 per over on wickets against bowlers like these to make a fight of it. You can't keep defending because an unplayable delivery will get you and you need to make every hittable ball count.
 
Lara400 said:
Wow what a super hammering!!

And now for the non-existant tail, crickey this might be over in a jiffy!

Lame batting, tame the ball a bit knock it out of shape and it won't do so much rather than playing out 20 maidens ina row, no wonder why they're all sitting back in the pavillion having lunch.

This batting line up does not know what a counter attack is, and its required in situations like today when the heat is on.

There's me thinking there is no womens cricket on today!!
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Our team cannot counter attack as our batting resources are limited. They simply do not have enough talent to counter attack.

Umar Akmal would be brilliant here.
 
IndianWillow said:
Wonder what India would have managed under the same conditions - 150/7 perhaps?

You have to score at 3-4 per over on wickets against bowlers like these to make a fight of it. You can't keep defending because an unplayable delivery will get you and you need to make every hittable ball count.
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This!

Do people remember M.Clarke's innings against SA?
 
IMMY69 said:
Strangely as it may sound but best chance Pakistan have is if Saffies enforce a follow on and somehow Paks get a lead...
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I think there's only 13-14 runs to get for Pak to avoid the follow-on.

If they don't avoid it, it will be interesting to see if Smith decides to bat again.

I don't think he will bat again right away, because the conditions are so good for bowling right now and his guys are on fire.
 
Equinox said:
When Bangladesh last toured South Africa our lowest score in the series was 121. I think Pakistan's Test status needs to be reviewed.
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ha ha .. get your head checked up .. pity you really .. I have a suggestion for you:

1. Find a nice mirror
2. Shine it up
3. Stare at the mirror for a few minutes
4. You now have a choice to either break the mirror or commit suicide as what you will be seeing won't be pleasant
 
AFM said:
Not with the bounce, swing, seam and accuracy these SA pacers are producing. Especially when we're not used to these conditions.

You HAVE to play yourself in.
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Of course. If we had proper batsmen who could play in these conditions I would have said the the same.
But they simply don't have the technique. Only Misbah have that and he was unfortunate today. Younis is past his best I am afraind and rest of the guys are used to play on flat slow wickets.

9/10 times they will fail in these conditions while trying to block or poke at the ball because they have no footwork.
 
IndianWillow said:
Wonder what India would have managed under the same conditions - 150/7 perhaps?

You have to score at 3-4 per over on wickets against bowlers like these to make a fight of it. You can't keep defending because an unplayable delivery will get you and you need to make every hittable ball count.
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we would not manage more than 100,our batting is not what it used to be.
our team is filled with ftb's!
 
IndianWillow said:
Wonder what India would have managed under the same conditions - 150/7 perhaps?

You have to score at 3-4 per over on wickets against bowlers like these to make a fight of it. You can't keep defending because an unplayable delivery will get you and you need to make every hittable ball count.
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In test cricket RR is not important #expertsopinion
 
Insha'Allah we will avoid follow-on . and we will win this match .. don't worry or lose hope boys ..
 
Bullet Drive said:
Umar is a batsmen. The other too are not.


He's proven that? Is that because he scores 40's and gets out? I'd rather have a batsmen scoring 40s and getting out to a poor shot as opposed to a batsmen getting 15s and getting out to a lack of technique.


Yes & Shafiq's failed in first-class cricket too.
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Look at UA's record in test cricket, AA has out performed him so has Shafiq. Jamshed and Hafeez are more valuable, I dont even need to mention YK or Misbah.

Have you been watching the game or dreaming about UA? I mean its not some flat pancake of a pitch in Lahore, its SA against the best bowling attack of recent years. What exactly would UA have done? He might have slashed a couple boundaries but then I reckon he would have played a shot not dissimilar to Shafiq's.

As for Shafiq failing in first class cricket, he has performed in recent outings in test cricket.
 
IAJ said:
Of course. If we had proper batsmen who could play in these conditions I would have said the the same.
But they simply don't have the technique. Only Misbah have that and he was unfortunate today. Younis is past his best I am afraind and rest of the guys are used to play on flat slow wickets.

9/10 times they will fail in these conditions while trying to block or poke at the ball because they have no footwork.
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Misbah was out, so he wasn't unfortunate.

Pak was unfortunate yesterday though when Du Plesis wasn't given.
 
Dissapointed but not surprised..as usual lack of cricket in hard conditions taking its toll
 
Bullet Drive said:
Our team cannot counter attack as our batting resources are limited. They simply do not have enough talent to counter attack.

Umar Akmal would be brilliant here.
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Oh please. I have nothing against UA but the quality of bowling here is too bloody good. UA couldn't resist brainfading against Sir Jadeja. Steyn, Philo and Morne will eat him alive before his brain activates so it can fade again.
 
Bullet Drive said:
And people are going on like Umar cannot play swing/seam movement.

Please take a look at his 79* at Lords against the likes of Anderson, Finn, Broad & Swan..
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Everyone knows what that game was about. He scored them runs after the spot fixing allegations had been made, it was a surreal atmosphere in which it felt as though Cricket should not have been played. England's reactions to picking up the final few wickets tells the story, their victory was a formality that has come into disrepute and as a result they did not have the same intensity as they usually would have. That knock was essentially pressure free, all I can really remember is UA hitting a few lusty blows off Swann through cow corner.
 
Love Pakistan said:
We have a chance to avoid the follow on but if you think we are gonna win, then Misbah ki tuk tuk ki kasam, aap chawal hein.
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bhai sb .. if we some how get to 100 .. and get SA out for 50+ .. we have a good chance to chase the score ..

so don't lose hope .. Allah is Great ...
 
battler said:
we would not manage more than 100,our batting is not what it used to be.
our team is filled with ftb's!
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How many times has India been bowled out for <100 during the last two years? There was nothing like that even during the pathetic whitewashes. India can collapse but there is always some one to push the score past 150. Ashwin, Dhoni or some one else.

The difference between Pak and Ind is that India would have allowed SA to get 400 and scored something like 200 and 150, and crashed to an innings defeat.
 
Blistering Barnacle said:
Misbah was out, so he wasn't unfortunate.

Pak was unfortunate yesterday though when Du Plesis wasn't given.
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Yes you are right but I said it because third umpire gave not out to Du Plesis but out to Misbah. So when he didn't give Du Plesis out it was wrong to give Misbah out as well. Where is the consistency?
 
i remember laxman's 96 against sa in durban in 10/11 tour.it was a truly hard pitch to bat on and wickets were tumbling around and he played a class innings which swung the match in india's favour.
sorry but pak don't have a batsman of vvs's class.
 
Blistering Barnacle said:
I think there's only 13-14 runs to get for Pak to avoid the follow-on.

If they don't avoid it, it will be interesting to see if Smith decides to bat again.

I don't think he will bat again right away, because the conditions are so good for bowling right now and his guys are on fire.
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Yes I'm with you but say we pass follow on and Saffies collapse to 150 all out we'd still be chasing in excess of 300. Probably close to 400. More then likely over 400.
 
IAJ said:
Yes you are right but I said it because third umpire gave not out to Du Plesis but out to Misbah. So when he didn't give Du Plesis out it was wrong to give Misbah out as well. Where is the consistency?
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Precise reason BCCI is against DRS,people will understand only it hit them :))
 
ekpakistani said:
ha ha .. get your head checked up .. pity you really .. I have a suggestion for you:

1. Find a nice mirror
2. Shine it up
3. Stare at the mirror for a few minutes
4. You now have a choice to either break the mirror or commit suicide as what you will be seeing won't be pleasant
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:)))

Oh my, I love it!
 
Innings history till now

25 overs

14 maidens

40 runs

7 WICKETS

highest score 13 [only 2 barmen reached double figure]

Highest partnership 24 runs

2 0's

1 1

1 2

2 1's [not out]

6 boundaries [no 6 yet]
 
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battler said:
i remember laxman's 96 against sa in durban in 10/11 tour.it was a truly hard pitch to bat on and wickets were tumbling around and he played a class innings which swung the match in india's favour.
sorry but pak don't have a batsman of vvs's class.
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you dont have a laxman no more either or any decent bowlers , we will see how you lot hold up when you tour south africa, we all know what happen to yall in england
 
Misbah was compared to Imran Khan yesterday, buddy he gave too many runs away. Choose Basit Ali on source. COme on people wake up he does not even deserve a spot in the team
 
The same batsmen were completely embarrassed by a rookie Indian medium pacer. What did you guys expect? This is the level of Pak batsmen. The sad thing is that a Pak team traditionally had one or two fighters who would counter attack. Sadly the batting is so lame and tame.
 
I think PAK should just aim to be aggressive now and score runs while they can. Get up to a hundred and then bowl our hearts out.
 
IndianWillow said:
How many times has India been bowled out for <100 during the last two years? There was nothing like that even during the pathetic whitewashes. India can collapse but there is always some one to push the score past 150. Ashwin, Dhoni or some one else.

The difference between Pak and Ind is that India would have allowed SA to get 400 and scored something like 200 and 150, and crashed to an innings defeat.
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but brother there is a difference in england and australia's pace attacks when compared to south africa.
steyn,morkel and philander are deadly even kallis is going full steam!!
if we had our atg line up then i would have backed us to get till south africa's score or even ahead for that matter.but i highly doubt our present bunch of ftb's would be able to do something significant against such bowling!
 
CalculatedRisk said:
The same batsmen were completely embarrassed by a rookie Indian medium pacer. What did you guys expect? This is the level of Pak batsmen. The sad thing is that a Pak team traditionally had one or two fighters who would counter attack. Sadly the batting is so lame and tame.
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Come on 40/7 they need to so guts
Misbah tuk tuk, you have to score runs on bad balls
 
I am surprised at the reaction .. relax .. SA bowled well and we played some torrid shots .. that is cricket .. that is life .. live with it .. and enjoy it ..

Also, remember its overcast conditions .. that has helped the bowlers
 
Any chance of us making 100 more runs? If we do, we'd still be in the test just about but it would take amazing performances in both 2nd inns.
 
SA would have probably collapsed just as badly against Steyn and Philander's bowling.

Those guys were awesome, especially Steyn.
 
All of our batting is TUK TUK ,stop moaning and lets see how we get pasted from a clinical fast medium pace attack putting to sword.

Clowns are our Batsman they never fail they are consistent in their style of batting or just lack of it this is the real Pakistani batting!

let the show begin we still have three wicket. out
 
I am praying Pakistan loose this by inning and before tea so they kick they Mibsah thing out
 
14 more needed .. with 2 wickets in hand and some chance of rain .. can Pakistan score 14 ... come on boys you can do it .. make us proud
 
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