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South Africa vs Pakistan | 1st Test | Johannesburg | 2/2/13 | Day 2

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top 6 batsman ... only shafiiq played the lose shot and gift his wicket ... otherwise it was brilliant bowling by south africa
 
An example of another quality post by James :)

Your determination to bring in the Akmal angle in every thread is ridiculous. Kind of admirable though.

Pray tell what would an out of form and out of practice Akmal have done differently here?

And don't act like I'm the only one mocking your post.
 
I m sure kamran could have played better than this sarfaraj..I say Bring him back!
 
at lest we still have the ability to take wicket and not concede 600 plus score and wait for a wicket .Our strength is till up their with the best!
 
When the opposition is out for 253 all Paksitan needed to do was to play it as a 50 overs match. They simply don't have the technique to block or leave.
We could easily have made over 200 if we played our shots.

Only proper batsmen can survive in these conditions.
 
why cant they play it like a one day match...
its no point in blocking every ball...
and playing shot at good deliveries
 
Your determination to bring in the Akmal angle in every thread is ridiculous. Kind of admirable though.

Pray tell what would an out of form and out of practice Akmal have done differently here?

And don't act like I'm the only one mocking your post.

I'm sorry but Umar Akmal is out of form?

You clearly know very little.

2 fifites and a hundred in his last 3 games.
 
why cant they play it like a one day match...
its no point in blocking every ball...
and playing shot at good deliveries
 
When the opposition is out for 253 all Paksitan needed to do was to play it as a 50 overs match. They simply don't have the technique to block or leave.
We could easily have made over 200 if we played our shots.

Only proper batsmen can survive in these conditions.

WTH? Do you even understand cricket? Just look at Shafiq to see where your logic takes you.
 
to be fair .. its not only the pitch but also over cast conditions + our batting ... lethal combination for us fans
 
Our batsmen simply cannot rotate strike. It is clear to see that Umar Akmal is the best strike rotator we have..
 
If they played like one day then every one will curse the batting line up so tuk tuk is ok but rotation of strike is the real problem!
 
In Tests?

Real men play this game mate, this is not pyjama cricket.

first-class cricket. You said he's short of match practise and he's out of form. I've given you stats to prove he's had match practise and he's in form.
 
Your determination to bring in the Akmal angle in every thread is ridiculous. Kind of admirable though.

Pray tell what would an out of form and out of practice Akmal have done differently here?

And don't act like I'm the only one mocking your post.

Very valid point. Also, he has done nothing to prove he deserves a position of responsibility in this side since his 129 and 75 on his debut. I am reminded of Muhammad Wasim was was far less talented but also managed a century on debut and then played some really good innings in testing conditions. I am also reminded of Imran Nazir who was far more talented than Umar Akmal and good enough to take a hundred off Walsh and Ambrose at the age of 18 and then dominated McGrath, Warne, Gillespie and Lee in Australia at the age of 20 but ended up nowhere.
 
I'm sorry but Umar Akmal is out of form?

You clearly know very little.

2 fifites and a hundred in his last 3 games.

Why dont we bring in afridi and umm awais zia too?

No matter what umar scores, he's always disappointed when we needed him to step up !
 
Our batsmen simply cannot rotate strike. It is clear to see that Umar Akmal is the best strike rotator we have..

Why are you so in love with UA? The ball is seaming around, what exactly are these tail enders meant to do?

UA has proven he does not have the temperament for Test Cricket as of now. All the batsmen in the side are better than him for Tests.
 
Relax guys, if any of you thought our batting would fare much better with only one practice match were way too optimistic! We may not be 'New Zealand' esque with the ball, but we certainly are with the bat!
 
When the opposition is out for 253 all Paksitan needed to do was to play it as a 50 overs match. They simply don't have the technique to block or leave.
We could easily have made over 200 if we played our shots.

Only proper batsmen can survive in these conditions.

Good thing your not a coach or in any capacity to teach cricket to some one :)))
 
first-class cricket. You said he's short of match practise and he's out of form. I've given you stats to prove he's had match practise and he's in form.

Big difference between Pakistan first class cricket and playing the best bowling attack in the world on a difficult wicket.
 
pathetic batting display from pakistan and as expected our batting has been exposed by both swing and bounce :facepalm:
 
Very valid point. Also, he has done nothing to prove he deserves a position of responsibility in this side since his 129 and 75 on his debut. I am reminded of Muhammad Wasim was was far less talented but also managed a century on debut and then played some really good innings in testing conditions. I am also reminded of Imran Nazir who was far more talented than Umar Akmal and good enough to take a hundred off Walsh and Ambrose at the age of 18 and then dominated McGrath, Warne, Gillespie and Lee in Australia at the age of 20 but ended up nowhere.

Why are you so in love with UA? The ball is seaming around, what exactly are these tail enders meant to do?

UA has proven he does not have the temperament for Test Cricket as of now. All the batsmen in the side are better than him for Tests.

Spot on. Although it's difficult to apply logic and reason when somebody has such a biased view.
 
It's probably worth recalling Umar for the next test. While i'm 99% sure that he will fail miserably, he does have some talent & is at least capable of taking the attack to SA.
 
Why dont we bring in afridi and umm awais zia too?

No matter what umar scores, he's always disappointed when we needed him to step up !

Umar is a batsmen. The other too are not.

Why are you so in love with UA? The ball is seaming around, what exactly are these tail enders meant to do?

UA has proven he does not have the temperament for Test Cricket as of now. All the batsmen in the side are better than him for Tests.
He's proven that? Is that because he scores 40's and gets out? I'd rather have a batsmen scoring 40s and getting out to a poor shot as opposed to a batsmen getting 15s and getting out to a lack of technique.

Big difference between Pakistan first class cricket and playing the best bowling attack in the world on a difficult wicket.
Yes & Shafiq's failed in first-class cricket too.
 
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WTH? Do you even understand cricket? Just look at Shafiq to see where your logic takes you.

Oh listen Einstein, sis shot would have been stupid even in LOIs. You play cricket with controlled aggression, not just throwing your bat at everything.

50 overs are enough to score 200 runs with proper cricket shots.
 
Relax guys, if any of you thought our batting would fare much better with only one practice match were way too optimistic! We may not be 'New Zealand' esque with the ball, but we certainly are with the bat!

Yes your are right but seriously 40/7 is too much.....................really our batters were very very very very very very defensive.....Apart from one hook/pull from Azhar .........the rest were all edges............
 
Excellent, excellent bowling from SA and awful batting by Pakistan.

This game will be finished in 3 days.

Well Done SA, there's a reason why you're no1.
 
When Bangladesh last toured South Africa our lowest score in the series was 121. I think Pakistan's Test status needs to be reviewed.
 
And people are going on like Umar cannot play swing/seam movement.

Please take a look at his 79* at Lords against the likes of Anderson, Finn, Broad & Swan..
 
When Bangladesh last toured South Africa our lowest score in the series was 121. I think Pakistan's Test status needs to be reviewed.

I think your status as a sane person needs to be reviewed after a comment like this :)
 
If asian teams want to win outside they need to have domestic conditions of playing bounce and swing... There is a reason no asian team has won a series in SA, AUS yet...

This SA attack is very good... But I still think other bowlers are managable, styne is too good but he still only bowls out swing only, that's some thing you can work with... both Youis and Hafeez should have left those balls... I still think Pakistan can come back in the series... Their character will be tested...
 
Strangely as it may sound but best chance Pakistan have is if Saffies enforce a follow on and somehow Paks get a lead...
 
We haven't batted poorly - barring the shot of Shafiq and MAYBE Azhar's, those deliveries would usually get most of other batsmen around the world out, too.
 
When Bangladesh last toured South Africa our lowest score in the series was 121. I think Pakistan's Test status needs to be reviewed.

When you last toured SA...Monkeys were riding on Rockets to space and Liverpool were still a force in football :)
 
Anyway just half an hour to go before post lunch session.

Next session will be ours Insha'Allah
 
Oh in this wicket is not just a fast and bouncy wicket, that would be acceptable. Nope, it's a dangerous up and down track and 100pct sub standard.
 
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