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SIF, although your advice is amazing, again (I've lost count of how many times I've praised you and am now running out of words to praise you) it probably won't work because the cousin who gave him the number lives in the UK, hence, she did not attend the dinner.

And Shaz, saying he found her number at the back of a book leads to many questions.
 
SIF, although your advice is amazing, again (I've lost count of how many times I've praised you and am now running out of words to praise you) it probably won't work because the cousin who gave him the number lives in the UK, hence, she did not attend the dinner.

And Shaz, saying he found her number at the back of a book leads to many questions.

I know. I meant Mamoon can say that while he was talking to his cousin over the phone or via Whatsapp or whatever this topic came up (where he was telling her about this dinner and about his plans to arrange another get together) and so she gave him the number.

And thanks for your kind words.
 
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SIF, although your advice is amazing, again (I've lost count of how many times I've praised you and am now running out of words to praise you) it probably won't work because the cousin who gave him the number lives in the UK, hence, she did not attend the dinner.

And Shaz, saying he found her number at the back of a book leads to many questions.

This is the problem man if he keeps thinking too much about things like that he will never do anything and most people are putting doubts in his mind already in this thread lol

She is a relative her contact is bound to be within his grasps no biggy, he can text her something he needs to know like hi you alright its me mamoon ****enter that something he needs to know**** and then he can take it from there. I read that she too is into medicine? they already got something big in common build on that! he could easily ask something related to his career/career prospects etc

That's my suggestion to him or he should some how get in contact with her directly and take her number....
 
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This is the problem man if he keeps thinking too much about things like that he will never do anything and most people are putting doubts in his mind already in this thread lol

She is a relative her contact is bound to be within his grasps no biggy, he can text her something he needs to know like hi you alright its me mamoon ****enter that something he needs to know**** and then he can take it from there. I read that she too is into medicine? they already got something big in common build on that! he could easily ask something related to his career/career prospects etc

That's my suggestion to him or he should some how get in contact with her directly and take her number....

Shaz is right. Mamoon should act and act fast. No point thinking so much. Ask her out already before someone else does. Act first and think later. :afridi style
 
Lol SIF you give advice like a seasoned pro I must say. You can go bowling, Area 51 was a very popular hangout spot in Karachi till the tharaks decided to invade it.

Oh and if you guys are talking about halwa puri, nothing beats Lahore. I've lived in Karachi (10 years) and Lahore, Lahore halwa puri and chanay are miles ahead of anything I've eaten in Pakistan or overseas.

Oh btw, any idea on how to initiate a conversation with this girl I like on my commute. It seems awfully nerve racking to start a conversation in front of so many strangers, I much prefer the 1-to-1 interaction.

Reg Area 51 - Didn't get your point.

Reg initiating the conversation - Are you asking me or Mamoon or someone else?

Does she travel alone or with her friends?
 
I personally think Shaz advice is very good. Act fast. Spontaneity is a very cool trait to have.

But one thing to remember is different females act differently.

Some are just cool. They don't care how you got their number (as long as they know you), they don't mind accepting someone as friends if they know them.

On the other hand, some are very very protective about such stuff.

So if you gauge her personality wrongly and act fast without knowing what to say if she asks you that question and if she keeps harping on that, it can lead to awkwardness.

Especially in this case where his cousin has specifically told him not to tell her how he got her number - I think I get a rough idea of who she is.

Maybe I am totally wrong regarding this.

Just my opinion.
 
You're welcome, Sensible-Indian-Fan. Your point might be worth a shot.

If Mamoon doesn't get her, he won't be bitter and will still dance at her wedding, people.

TBH, I don't know what he should do. Play it safe like SIF said or go all out like you guys suggest.
 
It's been 10pages full of advises and Mamoon is still feeling giddy by just looking at her number..:facepalm:
 
Shaz, if someone randomly texted me like that, especially an extended cousin, I'd freak out and never reply back.
 
Shaz, if someone randomly texted me like that, especially an extended cousin, I'd freak out and never reply back.

Why would she freak out?? He is just texting her like a cousin. Also she does not gives an ounce of attention to our Mamoon bhai so no reason to get excited or to get angry on him. If I was she, I will just reply back normally.
 
I am going to send her this text soon, maybe within this week:

"Hi, its um Mamoon. XYZ's son.

Okay listen, this is extremely awkward for me and please don't ask me how I got your number. I wanted to contact you for long and I couldn't develop the guts. Many times I have wanted to talk to you face to face but I always end up feeling shy :D

I started thinking about you when you came over to my house in February 2010, when we had a barbecue when my uncle came over from England. I started to stalk you on Facebook for a brief period before your profile simply vanished. Deactivated I think? Well so have I so it doesn't matter. These days I read your Twitter feed on almost daily basis. :D

I think you are beautiful and I like your family as well. If I had it my way, I would marry you.

Okay so please listen, I know this very strange and awkward but I had to get this message across you so that I don't regret it in the future. Please don't tell anyone. If you do it will be extremely embarrassing for me. This text might make you feel I am perverted or something but I swear on God if you don't reply or say no I won't bother you ever again. I won't make you feel uncomfortable the next time we see each other or something.

After all, we are cousins and share one family. If you tell someone etc how will I face everyone? Just keep it to yourself. I am blushing writing this all :P

Anyways, take care. Bye.


:nehra
 
The I will marry you part is a bit much no? I love how it is just snuck in there. Lol. That's a long text dude. She's a twitter user. She might zone out after the first few lines.
 
This thread is finally getting interesting.
I wish the best for you bro but like Poison I'm just here to see the train derail and crash. Sorry.
 
^^^^^

Headline on Al Jazeera next week

"Woman files restraining order against obsessed cousin!!"

Seriously though I admire your guts. Hope it works out
 
This is a bit too lengthy and you are grovelling way too much.

Who knows she might actually like your style but i would suggest the following.



I am going to send her this text soon, maybe within this week:

"Hi, its um Mamoon. XYZ's son.

Okay listen, this is extremely awkward for me and please don't ask me how I got your number. I wanted to contact you for long and I couldn't develop the guts. Many times I have wanted to talk to you face to face but I always end up feeling shy :D

I started thinking about you when you came over to my house in February 2010, when we had a barbecue when my uncle came over from England. I started to stalk you on Facebook for a brief period before your profile simply vanished. Deactivated I think? Well so have I so it doesn't matter. These days I read your Twitter feed on almost daily basis. :D

I think you are beautiful and I like your family as well.

Okay so please listen, I know this very strange and awkward but I had to get this message across you so that I don't regret it in the future. This text might make you feel I am perverted or something but I swear on God if you don't reply or say no I won't bother you ever again. I won't make you feel uncomfortable the next time we see each other or something.

I am blushing writing this all :P

Anyways, take care. Bye.

Please Mamoon talk more about her and lesser about you and your family.
 
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I say go for it, it's a lot better than sitting on your behind and just fantasising about her

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:facepalm: Mamoon, you sound like a desperate,shy,gutless,stalking and totally scared lover (which you are basically by the way :)) ) and this will completely put her off and she will pity on you. Don't ever show this side of yours to any girl.Also whats up with this long lecture in the 1st text itself?? :facepalm:

Shaz's route is the best for you and if it fails, send this essay to her..:asif
 
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I am going to send her this text soon, maybe within this week:

"Hi, its um Mamoon. XYZ's son.

Okay listen, this is extremely awkward for me and please don't ask me how I got your number. I wanted to contact you for long and I couldn't develop the guts. Many times I have wanted to talk to you face to face but I always end up feeling shy :D

I started thinking about you when you came over to my house in February 2010, when we had a barbecue when my uncle came over from England. I started to stalk you on Facebook for a brief period before your profile simply vanished. Deactivated I think? Well so have I so it doesn't matter. These days I read your Twitter feed on almost daily basis. :D

I think you are beautiful and I like your family as well. If I had it my way, I would marry you.

Okay so please listen, I know this very strange and awkward but I had to get this message across you so that I don't regret it in the future. Please don't tell anyone. If you do it will be extremely embarrassing for me. This text might make you feel I am perverted or something but I swear on God if you don't reply or say no I won't bother you ever again. I won't make you feel uncomfortable the next time we see each other or something.

After all, we are cousins and share one family. If you tell someone etc how will I face everyone? Just keep it to yourself. I am blushing writing this all :P

Anyways, take care. Bye.


:nehra

Remove the red.

Control your fear and write couple of more lines in her praise.
 
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dude, just act cool. Instead of writing this long text, just write one saying hi and that you got her number from somewhere (make something up thats smooth). just be cool and be yourself.
 
I am going to send her this text soon, maybe within this week:

"Hi, its um Mamoon. XYZ's son.

Okay listen, this is extremely awkward for me and please don't ask me how I got your number. I wanted to contact you for long and I couldn't develop the guts. Many times I have wanted to talk to you face to face but I always end up feeling shy :D

I started thinking about you when you came over to my house in February 2010, when we had a barbecue when my uncle came over from England. I started to stalk you on Facebook for a brief period before your profile simply vanished. Deactivated I think? Well so have I so it doesn't matter. These days I read your Twitter feed on almost daily basis. :D

I think you are beautiful and I like your family as well. If I had it my way, I would marry you.

Okay so please listen, I know this very strange and awkward but I had to get this message across you so that I don't regret it in the future. Please don't tell anyone. If you do it will be extremely embarrassing for me. This text might make you feel I am perverted or something but I swear on God if you don't reply or say no I won't bother you ever again. I won't make you feel uncomfortable the next time we see each other or something.

After all, we are cousins and share one family. If you tell someone etc how will I face everyone? Just keep it to yourself. I am blushing writing this all :P

Anyways, take care. Bye.


:nehra

Really?

For a while I thought you were sarcastic and joking.

Its an honest text but I don't know.

Anything can work technically. She may think this is cute. But there is a chance she may think you are a weirdo. Odds are very high for the latter.

Man, you are going for a home run shot here with that text of yours.

I am not sure about its odds.

I would be interested to know what Dhoni183 would message if he were in your place.
 
Really?

For a while I thought you were sarcastic and joking.

Its an honest text but I don't know.

Anything can work technically. She may think this is cute. But there is a chance she may think you are a weirdo. Odds are very high for the latter.

Man, you are going for a home run shot here with that text of yours.

I am not sure about its odds.

I would be interested to know what Dhoni183 would message if he were in your place.

I agree with sensible India fan here.

Mamoon honestly i'd keep it simple just read my earlier posts and take it from there you need to let it build i don't think someone will instantly fall in love with you just by reading that message love at first sight/love at first text happens in the movies, the text you are about to send is as a result of too much over-thinking HOWEVER it is better then NOTHING so if this is the only way you are willing to contact her GO FOR IT. Every woman is unique and will react differently so we can't say much on how she will react.

Personally i'd approach it differently i'd be subtle in my advances and build a relationship with the person, then if she likes you fair enough you can take it to the next level etc from experience going in hard can back fire plus when they know how you feel about them from the word go the girl can possibly feel as if you are trying too hard etc anyways if this is the only way you will contact her go for it and never give up. Don't be a pyscho though, give her room lmao.
 
Don't send that text, it will totally put her off and then whenever she sees you the next time around she won't even make eye contact.
 
I agree with sensible India fan here.

Mamoon honestly i'd keep it simple just read my earlier posts and take it from there you need to let it build i don't think someone will instantly fall in love with you just by reading that message love at first sight/love at first text happens in the movies, the text you are about to send is as a result of too much over-thinking HOWEVER it is better then NOTHING so if this is the only way you are willing to contact her GO FOR IT. Every woman is unique and will react differently so we can't say much on how she will react.

Personally i'd approach it differently i'd be subtle in my advances and build a relationship with the person, then if she likes you fair enough you can take it to the next level etc from experience going in hard can back fire plus when they know how you feel about them from the word go the girl can possibly feel as if you are trying too hard etc anyways if this is the only way you will contact her go for it and never give up. Don't be a pyscho though, give her room lmao.

Yeah bud. True.

Also girls like Mamoon's cousin like a challenge (very high odds). And Mamoon poses no challenge to her with that strategy. At a subconscious level, she would know she can have him any day she wants. Harsh but true.

Mamoon's strategy can work too but that if it does, it would be an exception rather than the norm.
 
I feel for you SIF. Even after all the coaching,he is still in the slogging mode like some typical Pakistani player..:afridi
 
Marriage is the ultimate thing that every woman wants. But for that you need a base. And I know you have been very honest in that text but tbh,it looks horrible.
 
i'd be subtle in my advances and build a relationship with the person, then if she likes you fair enough you can take it to the next leve .Don't be a pyscho though, give her room lmao.

That's what i mean to say.

Don't lose your wicket on first ball. But that does not mean that you delay it for too long.

You may text her even today but be precise and don't play all your cards in a single move.
 
Give a thought to this poetry.

Itne zalim na bano kuch to adaab-e-mohabbat, Seekho

Tum Pay marty hain to kiya maar hi daalo gay
 
Mamoo I think you should choose my way...

Say to your mom and father that you like this girl and so on. and so their can send your rishta and than the girl can thing about it...

Do not send that next.. I did not like it how would she like it. first you have to meet her, or can also text her in twitter and ask about something interesting.. The way you are doing its very inexperince way..

Sorry for my bad english
 
Why would she freak out?? He is just texting her like a cousin. Also she does not gives an ounce of attention to our Mamoon bhai so no reason to get excited or to get angry on him. If I was she, I will just reply back normally.

From my extended second cousin, whom I've only met twice, I think this would be very creepy.. I mean, had there been some groundwork set, then a text like that wouldn't seem so bad..

But like SIF said, if shes protective about her number, then Mamoon would find himself in a serious fix.

As for the text in question.

I am going to send her this text soon, maybe within this week:

"Hi, its um Mamoon. XYZ's son.

Okay listen, this is extremely awkward for me and please don't ask me how I got your number. I wanted to contact you for long and I couldn't develop the guts. Many times I have wanted to talk to you face to face but I always end up feeling shy :D

I started thinking about you when you came over to my house in February 2010, when we had a barbecue when my uncle came over from England. I started to stalk you on Facebook for a brief period before your profile simply vanished. Deactivated I think? Well so have I so it doesn't matter. These days I read your Twitter feed on almost daily basis. :D

I think you are beautiful and I like your family as well. If I had it my way, I would marry you.

Okay so please listen, I know this very strange and awkward but I had to get this message across you so that I don't regret it in the future. Please don't tell anyone. If you do it will be extremely embarrassing for me. This text might make you feel I am perverted or something but I swear on God if you don't reply or say no I won't bother you ever again. I won't make you feel uncomfortable the next time we see each other or something.

After all, we are cousins and share one family. If you tell someone etc how will I face everyone? Just keep it to yourself. I am blushing writing this all :P

Anyways, take care. Bye.


:nehra

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

There is so much fail in that text, I can't even laugh at it :facepalm:

So not only is it defeatist, stalker-ish and desperate, it reeks of cowardice.

That is not how you win a girl, bro. This is the kind of random FOB messages girls come across on facebook from random people!

If this is how you're gonna initiate things, then you'd be far better off talking to your parents about it.

With zero groundwork, this would be a disaster. Even with groundwork, I think this would fail..

T'is a golden duck, 'm afraid.
 
Also, I felt the strangest feeling of vindication seeing the support of Lahori halwa-puri in this thread..

:hamster:

Ignore any grammatical errors or spelling mistakes, I'm on my phone and accompanying my sis on a dreadful shoe-shopping trip -_-
 
Whatever you do don't send that text. The tone is quite weak and needy. Only when you know that a girl is completely into you should you show your true feelings. Till then, just text her like you would any other person.
 
Mamoon you have being extremely over coached for this position. Itna Sochay gaya to payar Kya Khak Karay Gha...


Its quite funny that many of you guys are so young (teens and early 20s), yet spend so much time on PP (thousand and thousands of posts) ... You need to enjoy and experience life...

I remember in 1986, I went for playing cricket rather than watching India Pakistan match, missed the whole match, just watched last few overs. I never preferred playing over watching even today when my both knee and shoulders are almost gone. We had a match when Pakistan won the T20 WC... You guys need to play more cricket and less PPing ;-)
 
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I would be interested to know what Dhoni183 would message if he were in your place.

In my fantasy land, I would paste this old piece of mine:

"From a distance, yet not from too far,
I observed how special you are,
Those moments,... an everlasting affect,
Something unique, these eyes were able to detect,
A touch and feel of heavens,
So different was your presence!
Words meant straight from the heart,
This is all I want to impart."


By "Those moments", reference is made to the first time etc. I saw her.

Anyway, she would smile reading it and would write me back, saying, "Since where is all this going on in your heart?" So on and on as we both would soon land in the valleys of Switzerland.

In reality:

"Ermmm.... Ahmmm,,... Aaaannnnn...... How is the weather there?"
 
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Sending that text would be suicide.

Number one, she'll freak out, and you can say goodbye to your fantasies. Or she might think it's some sort of really cruel joke, and won't believe it's really you.

Number two, did you even go through that?? Do you realize how you're coming across? A cowardly idiot who needs to get a life and is really, really desperate. Even if she does like you, this will completely put her off. If you actually knew her, it might, I repeat, might have worked.

My advice, as always, is try to make friends with her. You know her best, so nobody here can tell you how to go about that. Different girls react and work in different ways.
 
Sending that text would be suicide.

Number one, she'll freak out, and you can say goodbye to your fantasies. Or she might think it's some sort of really cruel joke, and won't believe it's really you.

Number two, did you even go through that?? Do you realize how you're coming across? A cowardly idiot who needs to get a life and is really, really desperate. Even if she does like you, this will completely put her off. If you actually knew her, it might, I repeat, might have worked.

My advice, as always, is try to make friends with her. You know her best, so nobody here can tell you how to go about that. Different girls react and work in different ways.

"Hi, its um Donal. XYZ's son.

Okay listen, this is extremely awkward for me and please don't ask me how I got your number. I wanted to contact you for long and I couldn't develop the guts. Many times I have wanted to talk to you face to face but I always end up feeling shy

I started thinking about you when you came over to my house in February 2010, when we had a barbecue when my uncle came over from England. I started to stalk you on Facebook for a brief period before your profile simply vanished. Deactivated I think? Well so have I so it doesn't matter. These days I read your Twitter feed on almost daily basis.

I think you are beautiful and I like your family as well. If I had it my way, I would marry you.

Okay so please listen, I know this very strange and awkward but I had to get this message across you so that I don't regret it in the future. Please don't tell anyone. If you do it will be extremely embarrassing for me. This text might make you feel I am perverted or something but I swear on God if you don't reply or say no I won't bother you ever again. I won't make you feel uncomfortable the next time we see each other or something.

After all, we are cousins and share one family. If you tell someone etc how will I face everyone? Just keep it to yourself. I am blushing writing this all

Anyways, take care 96notout. Bye."

Did that get you interested??? :P
 
Simply send her this picture I suggest......

2nsvwub.jpg
 
In my fantasy land, I would paste this old piece of mine:

"From a distance, yet not from too far,
I observed how special you are,
Those moments,... an everlasting affect,
Something unique, these eyes were able to detect,
A touch and feel of heavens,
So different was your presence!
Words meant straight from the heart,
This is all I want to impart."


By "Those moments", reference is made to the first time etc. I saw her.

Anyway, she would smile reading it and would write me back, saying, "Since where is all this going on in your heart?" So on and on as we both would soon land in the valleys of Switzerland.

In reality:

"Ermmm.... Ahmmm,,... Aaaannnnn...... How is the weather there?"

Haha.

Thanks for your answer.
 
@Donald - Nice to see you in the time pass section often.

Hey bud, are you too early 20's like most of us here?
 
Why not ask your common friend to do a favor?

While talking to her she would simply express her observation to her, "It seems Mamoon has a crush on you." This will give an idea whether the ice is going to melt or not.

You have already involved her , now take advantage of her.
 
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I think you're one of the younger ones, Donal.

In the western world when you turn 15 you're officially old lol. Cant believe how quick time has passed since i left primary school....

Now if you excuse me im off to indulge in childhood memories.
 
In the western world when you turn 15 you're officially old lol. Cant believe how quick time has passed since i left primary school....

Now if you excuse me im off to indulge in childhood memories.

I'm talking about PP. :P
 
A) Its Donal not Donald lol

B) Yeah im 18. Not quite 20 though. Judging by the no topic thread im one of the older ones here lol

Sorry Donal.

I don't know why I wrote Donald. Just wrote it even though I was thinking Donal.

Good to see you hear.

To be honest, when I first saw you in the cricket forums, I thought you were a middle aged dude.

:))

No reason at all. Just like that.

How wrong I was.
 
Don't profess your love so openly in the first text message. Start with something like this:

"Assalam u alaikum. This is Mamoon, your distant cousin. Remember you came to our place on dinner the other night?

Actually I am planning to perform Hajj in 2017. Would you like to accompany me on the pilgrimage?

Awaiting your reply"

The worst case scenario would be that she'll respond with "How dare you?!" or if things go according to plan you might receive a "I love you too" message.
 
@Mamoon:-You shouldn't send that text to her. You sound like a desperate, hapless boy.

If you type something like "Please don't tell anyone. If you do it will be extremely embarrassing for me.", she might start feeling superior and it will become harder for you to please her.

#CutTheCrap
 
She watches "The Office" too. British one.

Good taste. I would be devastated if I don't marry her, we will get along so well.

How many teenage girls have a refined taste anyway?
 
She watches "The Office" too. British one.

Good taste. I would be devastated if I don't marry her, we will get along so well.

How many teenage girls have a refined taste anyway?

Don't narrow your options down so quickly. You have only seen the bright side so far. She may be conceited for all you know.
 
I am seeing her for almost a decade now. I have figured her out.
 
I am seeing her for almost a decade now. I have figured her out.

Ummm...not sure bud (since you said you haven't met her much and its all based on few meetings and following her on twitter).

Have you seen how she reacts when she is in a bad period (not just mood but a prolonged period when things don't go her way)?

Have you seen how she treats people whom she doesn't like?

Have you seen what's her view regarding male - female equality, male chauvinism, etc (a stuff that leads to major problems later on - some females take a literal "if I have to do something, you must too" kinda approach which in theory sounds good but flops when trying to run a family)?

Have you seen how she reacts in complicated situations that need tact?

Just asking.
 
Yeah Mamoon you mentioned that she will start her studies to become a doctor soon so its best to make a move earlier. Research says that women in the medical profession long to be in a relationship the most so get ahead of the pack.

Lol SIF you give advice like a seasoned pro I must say. You can go bowling, Area 51 was a very popular hangout spot in Karachi till the tharaks decided to invade it.

Oh and if you guys are talking about halwa puri, nothing beats Lahore. I've lived in Karachi (10 years) and Lahore, Lahore halwa puri and chanay are miles ahead of anything I've eaten in Pakistan or overseas.

Oh btw, any idea on how to initiate a conversation with this girl I like on my commute. It seems awfully nerve racking to start a conversation in front of so many strangers, I much prefer the 1-to-1 interaction.

I agree. Medical colleges are the best dating spots. :jf
 
How can I find out? :moyo

You can't unless you talk to her (on a regular basis).

Which is why its premature to conclude that you know everything about her and things will be fine if you end up marrying (it could be or it could not be).

I know that girls with great looks and intelligence (non academic) are a HUGE turn on.

The latter more so than former (for me).

So I get your strong feelings towards her.

But don't come to a conclusion about compatibility now.

Figure out a plan to get her to interact with you on a regular basis and things will reveal itself.
 
I am going to send her this text soon, maybe within this week:

"Hi, its um Mamoon. XYZ's son.

Okay listen, this is extremely awkward for me and please don't ask me how I got your number. I wanted to contact you for long and I couldn't develop the guts. Many times I have wanted to talk to you face to face but I always end up feeling shy :D

I started thinking about you when you came over to my house in February 2010, when we had a barbecue when my uncle came over from England. I started to stalk you on Facebook for a brief period before your profile simply vanished. Deactivated I think? Well so have I so it doesn't matter. These days I read your Twitter feed on almost daily basis. :D

I think you are beautiful and I like your family as well. If I had it my way, I would marry you.

Okay so please listen, I know this very strange and awkward but I had to get this message across you so that I don't regret it in the future. Please don't tell anyone. If you do it will be extremely embarrassing for me. This text might make you feel I am perverted or something but I swear on God if you don't reply or say no I won't bother you ever again. I won't make you feel uncomfortable the next time we see each other or something.

After all, we are cousins and share one family. If you tell someone etc how will I face everyone? Just keep it to yourself. I am blushing writing this all :P

Anyways, take care. Bye.


:nehra

Take out everything in red and you should be fine. :yk
 
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I think this thread will only stop growing when Mamoon will marry her,I mean after 4-5 years :P
 
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