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The Eoin Morgan Thread | Is he a Craftsman, Finisher or Just Overrated?

I love his stance and his expression at the crease. Always looks completely focused and fearless.
 
Its like a magician waving a wand or an artists paint brush... Saeed Anwar would be proud of that wristiness...
 
He is the only batsmen in the world who plays a reverse sweep right after the bowler has released the ball. Others pre-meditate.
 
remember watching that shot vs Ravi, my eyes almost popped out!

incredible stuff, and much more 'legal' in my eyes than that idiotic KP switch hit.
 
but can he cartwheel and ride a unicycle and then attempt a shot and get out like umar akmal?

didnt think so
 
Fawad2010 said:
That guy has some serious talent. Seeing the ball clearly then having the reflexes to change the shot mid-way and being so innovative while doing so, requires a certain level of talent.
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I just love watching his reverse sweep sots/
 
Supposidly Morgan played alot of the irish sport Hurling before playing cricket so pretty much his technic and the way he plays shots has been adapted from there!

Brilliant shots and improvisation!
 
He's entitled to a poor series after all the games he has helped England to win. The rest of our overrated lineup is far less entitled to forgiveness, yet again!
 
He is a top T20 finisher.

At ODI level he is yet to convince he can guide a chase for a longer period of time (20 overs, rather than 10 in T20s).

He has the ability to do it and cold have a big WC but he's not nearly as big a threat yet in ODIs. Yet.
 
Eoin Morgan Should Play for Ireland

Ireland have played supremely well this WC. They are a young and exuberant team and need all the help they can get. They have proved in little opportunities that they have received that they are a handful team and can cause a few upsets in every 3-5 games they play. More importantly, they are determined folks and keen to improve.


Dear Morgan, You are Irish by birth. You grew up playing Cricket for them. You learned your basic skills in the streets of Ireland. You gained your initial recognition with Ireland, averaging 52.20 in the World Cricket League, including your first ODI century. Today, as they improve, they can ill afford to loose all the talent to the neighbors who were once the enemy of the country. Ireland needs you in the team as they make their case for test status. While there is riches and fame with English team, it will be more gratifying for you to instead display your talent for your country of birth.

You need to man up and make a decision. Multiculturalism is good and has its upsides but that is Blah. Go play for Ireland in your next match
 
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Its his choice. I don't know why do some pper here fail to understand that for players from Ireland, netherlands, and scotland cricket doesn't pay them good money. The reason why they join other teams is cause of the good salary....
 
He would be doing world cricket a huge favor if he decides to leave England and play for Ireland. we need more cricket teams. England need to stop stealing players from other countries.
 
shahrukh619 said:
Its his choice. I don't know why do some pper here fail to understand that for players from Ireland, netherlands, and scotland cricket doesn't pay them good money. The reason why they join other teams is cause of the good salary....
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Now IPL is there. I'm sure KB would get a huge contract in next IPL edition for his display today.
 
surely it would take years for him to be allowed.
 
Didn't Dirk Nannes play for Dutch and played for Aussies soon after that.
 
insaftak said:
Now IPL is there. I'm sure KB would get a huge contract in next IPL edition for his display today.
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IPL. Yar IPL is a one month tornament. These Cricketers need to make money during those other 11 months. What if England board doesn't allow him to play cricket in IPL.,
 
Netherlands are associate team, rules are different for full members. If you have represented a full member like England in ODIs, you have to wait 4 years before you represent any other country. I dont know about test matches, the duration could be longer
 
shahrukh619 said:
IPL. Yar IPL is a one month tornament. These Cricketers need to make money during those other 11 months. What if England board doesn't allow him to play cricket in IPL.,
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Comon Yaar

Ross Taylor recently got a million dollar contract. If that is not enough for a cricketer than nothing is. I am sure Eoin Morgan can make that kind of money in IPL.
 
with the kind of cricketers they are producing, they just need full member status. It'll bring in cash, infrastructure and their players will finally stop migrating to other countries. A one-off case like Morgan wont change anything

Mentally, they are the best of associate teams, even better than Bengalees. I think they can handle the 5-day format
 
This is just a stupid argument.... Its simple, a cricketer has a dream of playing for a Test nation, and players have dream to play full time cricket, rather then play part time and getting no money.

Morgan is on a contract with England, he cant just leave the team for no reason, and whats funny is that he is injuried... How did he know he would be getting a ipl contract.

It will be stupid not to play for a test nation, ratehr then playing with a assciate, if it was me i would had done the same thing, play for Pakistan, rather then Canada......
 
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KingKhanWC said:
No because Morgan is a class player who should be playing Test Cricket.
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Agreed.

This money talk is quite insulting, considering the guy actually wanted to play cricket, lots of quality cricket against big oppositions.
 
MC said:
Agreed.

This money talk is quite insulting, considering the guy actually wanted to play cricket, lots of quality cricket against big oppositions.
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Ryan Ten is a quality bat, as well as Nial and Kevin brothers. They all can be allocated into real cricket easily i.e test cricket.

but the problem is England cant keep importing players they always need to balance out foreign and english players..cant have em all :afridi

If we can watch high quality test cricket from Morgan then why not from Doeschate?

The point OP is trying to make is that if Morgan gets back to his native country, Ireland can become a force in world cricket today. They already have class players in the side morgan will further strengthen it.
 
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He wants to play tests. Anyways he has improved alot since coming into the english team, becoming the finisher. Though if he was still back in ireland, ireland would have a very strong team indeed.
 
kaalakawaa said:
Ireland have played supremely well this WC. They are a young and exuberant team and need all the help they can get. They have proved in little opportunities that they have received that they are a handful team and can cause a few upsets in every 3-5 games they play. More importantly, they are determined folks and keen to improve.


Dear Morgan, You are Irish by birth. You grew up playing Cricket for them. You learned your basic skills in the streets of Ireland. You gained your initial recognition with Ireland, averaging 52.20 in the World Cricket League, including your first ODI century. Today, as they improve, they can ill afford to loose all the talent to the neighbors who were once the enemy of the country. Ireland needs you in the team as they make their case for test status. While there is riches and fame with English team, it will be more gratifying for you to instead display your talent for your country of birth.

You need to man up and make a decision. Multiculturalism is good and has its upsides but that is Blah. Go play for Ireland in your next match
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this Post reminds of of great" BRAVEHEART"

Go Melgibson
 
a serious traitor...good player but a traitor...

not many other irishmen would want to represent england...theres intense dislike still and bitterness for dividing the country into north and republic...
 
Prince_Pathan said:
a serious traitor...good player but a traitor...

not many other irishmen would want to represent england...theres intense dislike still and bitterness for dividing the country into north and republic...
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Some serious garbage being written on this thread.

The reason Eoin Morgan is playing for England is that as things stand it's his only chance to play cricket at the highest level. The idea that this makes him a traitor is complete and utter rubbish.

The history of the British in Ireland and the bitterness it caused goes way back beyond partition, and of course includes The Great Irish Famine. But do the people of Ireland think of the huge number of Irish who have left over the years to live and work in Britain on the building sites, the roads, the railways, etc. as traitors? I've never heard anyone even suggest it, and I think any Irish sports fan with even half a brain fully understands the choice Eoin Morgan has made.

If Ireland get Test status - and they've applied for it - I'm sure Eoin Morgan would happily play for them, and would rather play for them than England.
 
Big Harvey said:
Some serious garbage being written on this thread.

The reason Eoin Morgan is playing for England is that as things stand it's his only chance to play cricket at the highest level. The idea that this makes him a traitor is complete and utter rubbish.

The history of the British in Ireland and the bitterness it caused goes way back beyond partition, and of course includes The Great Irish Famine. But do the people of Ireland think of the huge number of Irish who have left over the years to live and work in Britain on the building sites, the roads, the railways, etc. as traitors? I've never heard anyone even suggest it, and I think any Irish sports fan with even half a brain fully understands the choice Eoin Morgan has made.

If Ireland get Test status - and they've applied for it - I'm sure Eoin Morgan would happily play for them, and would rather play for them than England.
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Well said. Excellent post.
 
Eoin Morgan

It seems everyone across the cricket globe heavily rates this guy...but I don't.

What are your thoughts on him?

I think he is very overated, has rather limited technique and is just a middle order slogger that is suited to the T20's and ODI's but not made or tests.
 
He looked very impressive when he first came into the team but seems to have lost his touch

maybe hes losing his form
 
Was a huge fan but am not so enthused, has various technical issues.

Overrated.
 
Right, Morgan needs to be dropped from the test side i'm afraid. He has an average first class record, and hasn't looked like scoring any runs for ages. Has no clue against the Pakistani spinners.

Trouble is, who could replace him? Bopara? No thanks.
 
Starting to look like a T20 and ODI specalist. Starting to look clueless against top class bowlers in Test matches!
 
clueless against top class test bowling stick to the odi stuff mate. Your not good enough.
 
He's good enough to get in other teams, but if we want to remain the world's #1 side, we can't have weak links like Morgan in the team. Strauss is starting to worry me as well.
 
I hope he doesnt do an ed joyce and quit playing for england and run off back to ireland!

:)
 
malakian said:
He's good enough to get in other teams, but if we want to remain the world's #1 side, we can't have weak links like Morgan in the team. Strauss is starting to worry me as well.
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Hes can only play for ireland or england! so no hes not good enough to get into any other team!
 
Amjid Javed said:
Hes can only play for ireland or england! so no hes not good enough to get into any other team!
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I'm well aware of how the rules work, what i'm saying is, if he was born in say, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Windies etc, he would get in those teams no problem. However, he's not good enough to bat in the best team in the world, England.
 
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Not good enough for Pakistan...heck we've left :umarakmal on the bench.
 
malakian said:
I'm well aware of how the rules work, what i'm saying it, if he was born in say, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Windies etc, he would get in those teams no problem. However, he's not good enough to bat in the best team in the world, England.
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To be honest we have much better players then morgan in every gulley of pakistan
 
Where's that comedian GOAT? Morgan better than Shakib, eh? Shakib scored 144 against the same opposition and then went to the field and picked up six wickets the very next innings like a baws.
 
Equinox said:
Where's that comedian GOAT? Morgan better than Shakib, eh? Shakib scored 144 against the same opposition and then went to the field and picked up six wickets the very next innings like a baws.
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lol Shakib is a HTB. Even Ashwin is better than him :asif
 
malakian said:
I'm well aware of how the rules work, what i'm saying is, if he was born in say, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Windies etc, he would get in those teams no problem. However, he's not good enough to bat in the best team in the world, England.
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lol, NO. He cant even get in Pakistan's ODI team
 
I never really liked Morgan, England surely has better Test batsman than him. He's an odi specialist though
 
Shows how important Collingwood was. Under-rated nudger.
 
A modern day Neil Fairbrother.

I really don't like his stance. Stay still and track the (spinning) ball
 
I hope he continues to fail like he is and is dropped from English side and goes back to play for Ireland.
Hate the fact that he is not playing for his country. Selfish player.
 
What a knock! He is a craftsman, finisher and a class player! One of the very best T20 player!
 
This was six of his life :D (so far)

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What a finish. A massive :6 to win the game. Great entertainer.
 
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