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The Khyber Pakhtunkhwa v Balochistan match ends in 'no result' due to dust/rain storm

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Squads:

Balochistan - Asad Shafiq (captain); Ali Imran; Ammad Butt; Awais Zia; Bismillah Khan (WK); Fawad Alam; Ghulam Mudassar; Haris Rauf; Mohammad Irfan Sr; Qaiser Ashraf; Taj Wali; Umar Khan; Umer Akmal; Waqar Hussain (WK) and Zeeshan Ashraf


Khyber Pakhtunkhwa - Salman Butt (captain); Abid Ali; Adil Amin; Adnan Akmal (WK); Faizan Riaz; Khushdil Shah; Mohammad Irfan; Mohammad Irfan Jr; Mohammad Saad; Sohail Khan; Musa Khan; Umaid Asif; Wahab Riaz; Zeeshan Malik and Zohaib Khan
 
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Balochistan win toss elect to bowl first
 
Damn no speed gun but great outswing and bounce on this placid track. if he can get consistent speed with that shorter run up then he would defo be a better bet than hasnain as he more maturer and better fielder than him too
 
Abid Ali playing test cricket?

Has scored one run at the cost of 18 balls.
 
Abid Ali smashing Balochistan bowlers around as if he is playing in his garden.

Doubt that he will pass Mickey's yoyo test though.
 
I laughed when posters said Abid couldn't hit big as they clearly hadn't watched him bat in domestic/Pak A tours. Hope they are tuning in now...
 
mak36 said:
I laughed when posters said Abid couldn't hit big as they clearly hadn't watched him bat in domestic/Pak A tours. Hope they are tuning in now...
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More than that he is a sweet timer so he doesn't need slogs like Imam does. Reminds me of how Yousuf used to get big boundaries by just a flick or a punch.
 
I cant seem to get myself to watch this low level cricket in such disgraceful streaming quality on TV and streams across the world.

It's a headache the quality of streams available on the web and such poor quality of cricket with barely any spectators in the ground watching.

PTV needs to be taken down if they cant get their equipment changed to the 21st century and get professionals working for them rather than hired out labourers.
 
some observations in khushdil shahs batting.
- bottom handed player
- leg sided player like Jamshed
- hard hands
 
Sher Khan said:
some observations in khushdil shahs batting.
- bottom handed player
- leg sided player like Jamshed
- hard hands
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Jamshed was never as big hitter of the ball like Khushdil Shah.

Most of the big hitters you see around the world are targeting that mid on to mid off area more often than not as that is where you generally can generate most force.

Early in his innings Khushdil Shah does play off side shots as well, has a pretty decent cover drive.
 
Haris Rauf has shown some real good fitness, remained pacy throughout his 10 overs in this Pakistan Cup till now.
 
On this pitch, anything less than 120 is a failure for Umar Akmal.
 
The next logical step is to take Pakistan Cup towards the PSL route... allow foreign players to participate. Heck even an average county player will bring more to each side than never-beens like Butt. Merit in selection and captaincy selection should also be made a priority, but merit will only come when corrupt Inzi is booted out of the job.
 
Lol. what a pathetic tournament. There's nothing for the bowlers at all, even below average players are scoring big and playing with 100+ SR. This is terrible to watch, this will only inflate batting numbers of 20-30 pathetic batsmen in the country and after few months every Pak fan esp on PP will go gaga about those stats and will ask for the inclusion of all these rubbish batsmen. Pitches in Pakistan Cup have always been bad, u can't produce Int quality batsmen by dishing out such roads where even the ordinary batsmen are scoring runs with so much ease.

Pitches between 2013-16 were far better in domestic Oneday tournaments where batsmen had to put some efforts to score big and bowlers had something for them too. That's when we produced Fakhar Zaman, he was the only one during that time who had outstanding numbers like 45+ avg, 90+ SR and these bunch of mediocre batsmen had averages and strike rates in 30s and 70s respectively. Then you knew Fakhar had something in him and that he would deliver at International level and he did. Now, because of these pitches everyone gonna have outstanding numbers but fact remains that 80% of them are club level cricketers and shouldn't be even playing Premier domestic Oneday tournament.

Regional oneday cups and departmental oneday cups still have better tracks than this pathetic tournament, its, for sure , gonna do more harm than good for Pak cricket just like PSL.
What's the point of televising tournaments when the conditions in it are even worse than non televised departmental oneday Cup.
 
Farhan93 said:
Lol. what a pathetic tournament. There's nothing for the bowlers at all, even below average players are scoring big and playing with 100+ SR. This is terrible to watch, this will only inflate batting numbers of 20-30 pathetic batsmen in the country and after few months every Pak fan esp on PP will go gaga about those stats and will ask for the inclusion of all these rubbish batsmen. Pitches in Pakistan Cup have always been bad, u can't produce Int quality batsmen by dishing out such roads where even the ordinary batsmen are scoring runs with so much ease.

Pitches between 2013-16 were far better in domestic Oneday tournaments where batsmen had to put some efforts to score big and bowlers had something for them too. That's when we produced Fakhar Zaman, he was the only one during that time who had outstanding numbers like 45+ avg, 90+ SR and these bunch of mediocre batsmen had averages and strike rates in 30s and 70s respectively. Then you knew Fakhar had something in him and that he would deliver at International level and he did. Now, because of these pitches everyone gonna have outstanding numbers but fact remains that 80% of them are club level cricketers and shouldn't be even playing Premier domestic Oneday tournament.

Regional oneday cups and departmental oneday cups still have better tracks than this pathetic tournament, its, for sure , gonna do more harm than good for Pak cricket just like PSL.
What's the point of televising tournaments when the conditions in it are even worse than non televised departmental oneday Cup.
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I guess its difficult to satisfy everyone. People were bashing PCB when conditions were bowler friendly in QAE and now when the wickets are flat and outfield is good people are still questioning the quality.

I agree there could be more balanced approach towards creating pitches but still I am sure not everyone will be happy even then.
 
Farhan93 said:
Lol. what a pathetic tournament. There's nothing for the bowlers at all, even below average players are scoring big and playing with 100+ SR. This is terrible to watch, this will only inflate batting numbers of 20-30 pathetic batsmen in the country and after few months every Pak fan esp on PP will go gaga about those stats and will ask for the inclusion of all these rubbish batsmen. Pitches in Pakistan Cup have always been bad, u can't produce Int quality batsmen by dishing out such roads where even the ordinary batsmen are scoring runs with so much ease.

Pitches between 2013-16 were far better in domestic Oneday tournaments where batsmen had to put some efforts to score big and bowlers had something for them too. That's when we produced Fakhar Zaman, he was the only one during that time who had outstanding numbers like 45+ avg, 90+ SR and these bunch of mediocre batsmen had averages and strike rates in 30s and 70s respectively. Then you knew Fakhar had something in him and that he would deliver at International level and he did. Now, because of these pitches everyone gonna have outstanding numbers but fact remains that 80% of them are club level cricketers and shouldn't be even playing Premier domestic Oneday tournament.

Regional oneday cups and departmental oneday cups still have better tracks than this pathetic tournament, its, for sure , gonna do more harm than good for Pak cricket just like PSL.
What's the point of televising tournaments when the conditions in it are even worse than non televised departmental oneday Cup.
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I agree bro. Their should atleast be some seam movement and swing early on for the bowlers. But their is none. These pitches are pure batting paradises. Duds like ramiz raja jr are smacking it around here.
 
Syed1 said:
The next logical step is to take Pakistan Cup towards the PSL route... allow foreign players to participate. Heck even an average county player will bring more to each side than never-beens like Butt. Merit in selection and captaincy selection should also be made a priority, but merit will only come when corrupt Inzi is booted out of the job.
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What’s your issue with butt, you don’t have an issue with Amir or sharjeel. Let butt earn his rozi as well.
 
LO wickets should always be full of runs - batting belters where batsman can hit through the line in full flow and lighting fast outfield so that every good shot earns it's full value.

Just 2 things need to be there for bowlers - 1. there must be good, consistent bounce and carry on the track, so that pacers bending their back can force batsmen on back foot, and spinners get good bounce as well and 2. The boundary size must be expanded enough to ensure that miscues don't clear it for six and if spinners starts to flight the ball, it'll not be a one way traffic, batsmen will need proper footwork to loft
him and clear 4 men on line.

Today is the day for Umar to prove a point - better if he can win it, but at least I wish he shows the maturity to chase a target methodically, a close loss doesn't matter there after. These are 300+ like condition and under dew, it's even more easier; Khusdil probably would have chased 380 last time and yesterday from 5 down inside 120, chasing team reached 300 in 43 overs - so, Umar batting out 50 overs, should chase this target; what he needs to show that he can count the chase by every ball and don't try to hatch all the golden eggs in one go.
 
Syed1 said:
The next logical step is to take Pakistan Cup towards the PSL route... allow foreign players to participate. Heck even an average county player will bring more to each side than never-beens like Butt. Merit in selection and captaincy selection should also be made a priority, but merit will only come when corrupt Inzi is booted out of the job.
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Don't know why people are criticising this so much. Butt shouldn't be in the international side fair enough but he still needs money to eat and that source is domestic cricket.
 
Titan24 said:
I guess its difficult to satisfy everyone. People were bashing PCB when conditions were bowler friendly in QAE and now when the wickets are flat and outfield is good people are still questioning the quality.

I agree there could be more balanced approach towards creating pitches but still I am sure not everyone will be happy even then.
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In this part of year wickets are usually flat , its better than slow uae wickets. QA trophy has worst kind of wickets for a premeir tournament where every trundler becomes Hadlee.
 
What a world class catch by Abid Ali to dismiss U. Akmal!

This guy always manages to take the best of catches.
 
Full storm Out there, Whole ground is covered by flying adverts etc
 
Wonder if this aandhi has appeared during international matches before?
 
Titan24 said:
I guess its difficult to satisfy everyone. People were bashing PCB when conditions were bowler friendly in QAE and now when the wickets are flat and outfield is good people are still questioning the quality.

I agree there could be more balanced approach towards creating pitches but still I am sure not everyone will be happy even then.
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Getting the right balance is a way forward. Atleast give both batsmen and bowler a proper challenge. you aren't really preparing your batsmen or bowlers by giving them pitches like these. Every flop in this tournament is looking like Sharjeel khan. Thats where ordinary player like Shan masood beefed up his List A average and SR within 2 years and made media and people call for his inclusion in ODIs. We all know he is a terrible player but we have to raise voice for him because his average now is touching 60 in List A and strike rate went up from 71 to 82 with in 2 years (not because hes got any better but because hes been scoring runs on these ****** tracks). Thats why tournaments like this are so detrimental that they influence selection in a wrong way.

In QeA trophy ,at least you get different tracks, different venues so performing in QeA trophy isn't that easy for anyone. Bowlers usually get tested when they play in Khr or Hyd or even in Punjab where not every pitch is bowling friendly. Batting is definitely tough in QeA trophy but atleast we find quality batsmen (Usman,Fawad,Saud,Saad,Abid etc) for test level from that ,we dont give them the chance that's an another matter and merit issue.
 
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JibranAnsari said:
In this part of year wickets are usually flat , its better than slow uae wickets. QA trophy has worst kind of wickets for a premeir tournament where every trundler becomes Hadlee.
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QeA trophy atleast gives u genuine spinners and it separates test level batsmen from bunch of mediocre duds when they go on and perform on tough pitches. what are you really getting out of these roads in Pakistan cup? International level bowlers are getting hammed by club level batsmen and can't do anything. This cup is only helping List A strike rates and avgs of second rate batsmen who aren't even good enough to represent Pakistan C team let alone play for Pakistan A team or national team
 
Rain has stopped play for the moment in the Pakistan Cup encounter between KPK and Balochistan; Awais Zia is 84*(61) as Balochistan reach 129/3 in 17.5 overs, still need 230 runs to win as they chase a massive target of 359;
 
Awais zia 84 (61)*

Another dud looking like Sharjeel Khan today. What a joke

:facepalm:
 
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Farhan93 said:
QeA trophy atleast gives u genuine spinners and it separates test level batsmen from bunch of mediocre duds when they go on and perform on tough pitches. what are you really getting out of these roads in Pakistan cup? International level bowlers are getting hammed by club level batsmen and can't do anything. This cup is only helping List A strike rates and avgs of second rate batsmen who aren't even good enough to represent Pakistan C team let alone play for Pakistan A team or national team
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QA trophy used to give us genuine spinners , that was long time ago. Pitches have been low and damp for last 10 years , the average overs we get per day in a 4 day match are 64. Every trundler on these pitches seems like richard hadlee and go have a look at last 10 years record of qa trophy that spinners have very little part to play. No wonder we have stopped producing quality cricketers , its down to the poor damp pitches during qa trophy.
 
JibranAnsari said:
QA trophy used to give us genuine spinners , that was long time ago. Pitches have been low and damp for last 10 years , the average overs we get per day in a 4 day match are 64. Every trundler on these pitches seems like richard hadlee and go have a look at last 10 years record of qa trophy that spinners have very little part to play. No wonder we have stopped producing quality cricketers , its down to the poor damp pitches during qa trophy.
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Part of the reason we are seeing less quality spinners is uninterrupted clamp down on the spinners after ajmal's action issue. But there are still some quality spinners who have been performing season after season on those damp pitches, the issue is we aren't giving them a chance. Imran khalid,Kashif bhatti,Khalid usman have done well but they are never in the reckoning and instead we pick medicore bilal asif and nawaz for some strange reason. why are you blaming QeA trophy if ur selection is awful?

QeA trophy is good enough, we only need merit in selection.
Big problem is tournaments like Pakistan cup and PSL which influence selection in a wrong way
 
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