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Why the hell does Seth dress so feminine? He looked like he was wearing a ladies pantsuit when he confronted Cody today ☠️ ☠️ And white heels to add.

Is this lgbt nonsense now in WWE too? :facepalm
 
Suleiman said:
Why the hell does Seth dress so feminine? He looked like he was wearing a ladies pantsuit when he confronted Cody today ☠️ ☠️ And white heels to add.

Is this lgbt nonsense now in WWE too? :facepalm
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I don’t think he has realised Vince has left, trying to impress him a bit too suspiciously hard….
 
The_KING said:
CM Punk out of Wrestlemania. :cry:
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He’s done imo his body has broken down into bits, at best they should have him on a special events part time contract (even that will be tricky) or look into another on-screen role. They should use him like the legit draw he is and try and paper over his injuries but I doubt it, and Punk himself would want to work full time to, not a good situation, and horrible blow to Mania, I rather lose every member of that roster then Punk
 
Well if he is going down, what a way to bow out in a blaze of glory. Not one person in the world cut a promo so real and emotionally thralling then Punk’s on RAW last night, and in the process he helped get serious heat on Drew and make him the most interesting he has been since pre-Covid.

This might be a stretch but what if his recovery is not expected to be as long as we think, am not sure what the shortest period of recovery is from a tricep injury but this could partially be a worked shoot (hoping for it).

- Punk looked like a million dollars in the Rumble until Drew entered to beat the crap out of him

- Punk eliminates Drew out of nowhere

- Drew is seriously upset, he doesn’t like Punk but this will just help take him over the edge

- Punk/Cody have a classic back and forth, excellent ring generalship from Punk and selling, helps get heat on Cody’s win

Punk rumoured to have torn his tricep.

Seth is in rehab to, they can’t build the program they would like with Seth on the shelf so need to find Punk a new opponent?

This all might be stretch, but why would he be even cleared to take that beatdown from Drew and even strike with his right arm if he has a torn tricep? the WWE health/medical regime is more strict then ever, and there was serious heat on Drew there and it sounded like the crowd were backing Punk more than ever before, Punk being back is all nice and great, but you put serious obstacles in his path and the audience rally behind him even harder.

Lets see how things pan out, wouldn’t shock me if Punk/Drew happens sooner rather than later, Sami Zayn might just be an insurance policy🤔
 
shaz619 said:
Well if he is going down, what a way to bow out in a blaze of glory. Not one person in the world cut a promo so real and emotionally thralling then Punk’s on RAW last night, and in the process he helped get serious heat on Drew and make him the most interesting he has been since pre-Covid.

This might be a stretch but what if his recovery is not expected to be as long as we think, am not sure what the shortest period of recovery is from a tricep injury but this could partially be a worked shoot (hoping for it).

- Punk looked like a million dollars in the Rumble until Drew entered to beat the crap out of him

- Punk eliminates Drew out of nowhere

- Drew is seriously upset, he doesn’t like Punk but this will just help take him over the edge

- Punk/Cody have a classic back and forth, excellent ring generalship from Punk and selling, helps get heat on Cody’s win

Punk rumoured to have torn his tricep.

Seth is in rehab to, they can’t build the program they would like with Seth on the shelf so need to find Punk a new opponent?

This all might be stretch, but why would he be even cleared to take that beatdown from Drew and even strike with his right arm if he has a torn tricep? the WWE health/medical regime is more strict then ever, and there was serious heat on Drew there and it sounded like the crowd were backing Punk more than ever before, Punk being back is all nice and great, but you put serious obstacles in his path and the audience rally behind him even harder.

Lets see how things pan out, wouldn’t shock me if Punk/Drew happens sooner rather than later, Sami Zayn might just be an insurance policy🤔
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Seth did a lengthy beatdown on Cody's torn pect on the RAW after their HIAC match to write him off which Cody wrestled with a broken pect tendon.

But i think it's possible it might be a worked shoot, he could be a surprise entrant at Elimination Chamber, as Cody just simply challenging Roman would have devalued WHC even more. I haven't followed dirt sheets in a long time so I don't know what they've said.
 

Raw Results: January 29, 2024​

  • The Judgment Day def. #DIY in an Undisputed WWE Tag Team Title Match
  • Shayna Baszler & Zoey Stark def. Chelsea Green & Piper Niven
  • Jey Uso def. “Big” Bronson Reed
  • Gunther def. Kofi Kingston in an Intercontinental Title Match
  • The Kabuki Warriors def. Tegan Nox & Natalya
  • Drew McIntyre def. Sami Zayn
 
Dream Match for me, Really wanted this match to happen.

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Dwayne ‘The Rock’ Johnson appears set for WWE return in WrestleMania 40 dream match with Roman Reigns

Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson is heading to WrestleMania and has Roman Reigns in his sight.

WWE made the match all but official Friday night on SmackDown as the two cousins came face to face for the first time during Reigns’ historic 1,200-plus day world championship reign.

The two didn’t say a word, but WWE teased a WrestleMania 40 press conference for Thursday in Las Vegas.

It’s a dream encounter, as the two have never had a match together and now likely will main event Night 2 of the two-night WrestleMania at Philadelphia’s Lincoln Financial Field on April 6-7.

It wasn’t immediately announced if Reigns’ championship will be on the line.

The Rock was a surprise for SmackDown, which advertised back-to-back Royal Rumble winner Cody Rhodes making his decision about who he will face at WrestleMania — either a rematch from last year’s show with Reigns, the Undisputed WWE Universal champion, or World Heavyweight champion Seth Rollins.

Rhodes, who pointed to Reigns after winning the Royal Rumble last week, had some doubt planted in his mind by Rollins earlier this week on Raw.

Rollins told him he should go after his title — the workhorse title that his dad, Dusty Rhodes, had won.

Rhodes said one of the people he sought council with over his decision was The Rock, whose music then hits.

It allowed WWE to have Rhodes in the storyline graciously bow out of facing Reigns and make it seem like this was all his idea to the fans who wanted to see him beat The Tribal Chief and “finish the story” by winning the title his dad never won.

It’s unclear if this was an audible WWE called after Rollins’ rumored opponent, CM Punk, tore his right triceps during the Royal Rumble and will have to miss WrestleMania.

But WWE felt on this path with Reigns and Rock after the Hollywood star asked if he should “sit at the head of the table” on SmackDown in January.

The 51-year-old Rock, who just became a board member of WWE’s parent company TKO, hasn’t wrestled a true match since he lost to John Cena at WrestleMania 29 at MetLife Stadium in 2013.

He and Reigns have a history in Philadelphia.

The Rock raised Reigns’ hand after he won the Royal Rumble at the Wells Fargo Center in 2015 in an ill-received segment during Reigns’ failed babyface push.

SOURCE: https://nypost.com/2024/02/02/sport...-for-wrestlemania-40-match-with-roman-reigns/
 
Lol… I’m a big rock fan since his work in attitude era but for the past few years his character has been pathetic.

Stole the spotlight from punk and now Cody. Cody just gave up the chance to win the title his dad always wanted and the chance to do what he couldn’t do last time Vs Roman.

Must be nice sitting on the TKO board that owns WWE… slot in whenever you want.

Rock v Roman was always a good matchup… but this is the laziest way to set it up.
 
bring back the 90s rock with $900 cuban shirts and sunglasses talking unfiltered smack 24/7 or Hollywood Heel Rock (which makes 1000x more sense now than it did in 03 now that he IS actually the highest paid Hollywood actor!)

otherwise stop using him as a plot device to slot in and swipe the title whenever convenient. Hurting his own legacy now.
 
Suleiman said:
Why the hell does Seth dress so feminine? He looked like he was wearing a ladies pantsuit when he confronted Cody today ☠️ ☠️ And white heels to add.

Is this lgbt nonsense now in WWE too? :facepalm
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On Stone Cold's broken skull sessions, he said "the drip" side of wrestlers has diminished in current era and he wants to become the best one at that. He named the likes of Savage as his influence in terms of "dressing the best". The gimmick worked well earlier on especially as a heel, but for last one year, he's become a very tiresome character.
 
Suleiman said:
bring back the 90s rock with $900 cuban shirts and sunglasses talking unfiltered smack 24/7 or Hollywood Heel Rock (which makes 1000x more sense now than it did in 03 now that he IS actually the highest paid Hollywood actor!)

otherwise stop using him as a plot device to slot in and swipe the title whenever convenient. Hurting his own legacy now.
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Want to see The Rock cutting promos rather than Dwayne Johnson trying to play The Rock.
The Rock was ruthless, fearless, often stretched the boundaries of the product he was to maintain. Long promos, switching from roasting people to becoming dead serious and bringing intensity. That was the Rock. What we've gotten since 2011 is the jolly Dwayne Johnson maintaining his good guy demeanour of behind the scenes, promos filled with catchphrases rather than actually cutting promos. He's been doing the same in his movies since 2011, just relying on playing himself rather than playing a character. Black Adam could have been played so much better if he hadn't tried to inject Dwayneness to the character and had actually played the character. He used to really try doing something different in his earlier movies like Be Cool, Get Smart, Faster, Pain and Gain etc.
 
I am not the biggest Cody Rhodes fan but he earned the right to finish his story at Wrestlemania. But selfish Dwayne Johnson stole his moment by using his power to play backstage politics and get himself an undeserved spot in the main event of Wrestlemania. He did the same thing in 2013, when we should have got CM Punk vs John Cena in the main event of Wrestlemania, but instead Dwayne decided to comeback and have one more lame run with the WWE title. The Rock has been a joke since his return in 2011. His first run between 1996-2004 was great, but since 2011, he has living off his past glory and it is pathetic. He needs to retire for good or try something different.
 
shaz619 said:
He’s done imo his body has broken down into bits, at best they should have him on a special events part time contract (even that will be tricky) or look into another on-screen role. They should use him like the legit draw he is and try and paper over his injuries but I doubt it, and Punk himself would want to work full time to, not a good situation, and horrible blow to Mania, I rather lose every member of that roster then Punk
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Punk could be a great manager or an on screen authority figure. He has got the mic skills for that type of role.

As for wrestling, I think he needs to adopt a more part time schedule.
 
The_KING said:
I am not the biggest Cody Rhodes fan but he earned the right to finish his story at Wrestlemania. But selfish Dwayne Johnson stole his moment by using his power to play backstage politics and get himself an undeserved spot in the main event of Wrestlemania. He did the same thing in 2013, when we should have got CM Punk vs John Cena in the main event of Wrestlemania, but instead Dwayne decided to comeback and have one more lame run with the WWE title. The Rock has been a joke since his return in 2011. His first run between 1996-2004 was great, but since 2011, he has living off his past glory and it is pathetic. He needs to retire for good or try something different.
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That expression says everything… Sad.

Now that promo between Punk and Cody hits 10x harder. Where Punk was saying “having someone who hasn’t been with the company for years to come in and take your spotlight” referring to Dwayne, whenever the same thing happened to Punk. Wonder if they deliberately scripted that or if the irony is truly lost on them…
 
There are so many ways to do this but they have to take Cody out the programme which is so risky.

From a fans POV, I’m not as bothered as I was in 2011-2012, part of it may be because I care more for Punk than Cody as performers. And Rock/Reigns is a dream match we all wanted for years, but it leaves a little sour taste when done this way.

With Rock on the TKO board, any changes would surprise me.
 
The_KING said:
I am not the biggest Cody Rhodes fan but he earned the right to finish his story at Wrestlemania. But selfish Dwayne Johnson stole his moment by using his power to play backstage politics and get himself an undeserved spot in the main event of Wrestlemania. He did the same thing in 2013, when we should have got CM Punk vs John Cena in the main event of Wrestlemania, but instead Dwayne decided to comeback and have one more lame run with the WWE title. The Rock has been a joke since his return in 2011. His first run between 1996-2004 was great, but since 2011, he has living off his past glory and it is pathetic. He needs to retire for good or try something different.
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I think whether it happens now or later, The Rock has to turn heel, that would benefit all so much more. Hollywood Heel Rock makes sense now even more than the early 2000’s, he now has plenty of rubbish movies under his belt which his millions and millions of dweebs ate up until the gravy train stopped and he came crawling back to the WWE, I should call him by his real name; Dwyane.
 

WWE RAW Card for February 5, 2024 Episode:​

  • Bullrope match: Cody Rhodes vs. Shinsuke Nakamura
  • Women’s Tag Team Championship: The Kabuki Warriors (Asuka & Kairi Sane) vs. Katana Chance & Kayden Carter
  • The Miz vs. J.D. McDonagh
  • Maxxine Dupri & Akira Tozawa vs. Ivar & Valhalla
  • Tag Team Contenders Four-Way: DIY (Johnny Gargano & Tommaso Ciampa) vs. The Creed Brothers (Julius Creed & Brutus Creed) vs. Imperium (Ludwig Kaiser & Giovanni Vinci) vs. The New Day (Kofi Kingston & Xavier Woods)
  • Gunther to celebrate 600 days as WWE Intercontinental Champion
 
shaz619 said:
I think whether it happens now or later, The Rock has to turn heel, that would benefit all so much more. Hollywood Heel Rock makes sense now even more than the early 2000’s, he now has plenty of rubbish movies under his belt which his millions and millions of dweebs ate up until the gravy train stopped and he came crawling back to the WWE, I should call him by his real name; Dwyane.
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One thing is, Rock of old before he became watered down and became Pebble, knew when to embrace the heat and become heel.

The “Rocky sucks” chants returned big time today on RAW as everyone could expect after a very long time. And will probably get worse for him regarding fan support. Let’s see if he steps into Hollywood persona once again.
 
Wrestling has become pathetic Nowadays. No real venom in it now. AEW is much better in terms of match intensity and more aggressive and looks much more real than WWE.
 
Suleiman said:
One thing is, Rock of old before he became watered down and became Pebble, knew when to embrace the heat and become heel.

The “Rocky sucks” chants returned big time today on RAW as everyone could expect after a very long time. And will probably get worse for him regarding fan support. Let’s see if he steps into Hollywood persona once again.
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Some dirt is suggesting this is a worked shoot to make Cody a martyr like Bryan in 2014, if the triple threat and a Rock heel turn is the long term plan this is great!

Whenever he turns we’re reminded of why we fell in love with wrestling, it’s mad how he can command such polarising reactions
 

WWE Raw Results – 5 Feb 2024​

  • #DIY (Johnny Gargano and Tommaso Ciampa) def. The Creed Brothers (Brutus and Julius Creed), Imperium (Ludwig Kaiser and Giovanni Vinci), and The New Day (Kofi Kingston and Xavier Woods) in a Fatal 4-Way Tag Team Championship Qualifier Match
  • “The Man” Becky Lynch def. Shayna Baszler in an Elimination Chamber Qualifying Match
  • Ivar and Valhalla def. Akira Tozawa and Maxxine Dupri in a Mixed Tag Team Match
  • The Miz def. JD McDonagh
  • The Kabuki Warriors (Asuka and Kairi Sane) def. Kayden Carter and Katana Chance to retain the WWE Women’s Tag Team Championship
  • “The American Nightmare” Cody Rhodes def. Shinsuke Nakamura in a Bull Rope Match
 
The_KING said:
lol good joke. AEW is trash.
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The concept of AEW was a good one.

I wonder if the big networks will give pro wrestling a go again with the big monopoly WWE have with the TKO takeover.

Competition is good, but they have ruined it.
 
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shaz619 said:
The concept of AEW was a good one.

I wonder if the big networks will give pro wrestling a go again with the big monopoly WWE have with the TKO takeover.

Competition is good, but they have ruined it.
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AEW has potential but it is run by a clown who runs his mouth on Twitter like a teenager.
 
The_KING said:
AEW has potential but it is run by a clown who runs his mouth on Twitter like a teenager.
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He is an embarrassment lol there are levels to this game, the way he use to berate Nick Khan who has been the most influential man in wrestling, other than Vince himself dare I say vetoing some of his power. Securing that deal with Netflix is insane, it will make my subscription more worthwhile now lol
 
Don’t know if H booked this or if it was a last minute change after the backlash from Rock facing Roman, but either way, well done to WWE creative.

Most intensity and organic tension I’ve seen in a WWE cutscene in a very long time.
 
Rock’s work at the press conference was the most interesting thing he has done since 2003-04.
 
shaz619 said:
He is an embarrassment lol there are levels to this game, the way he use to berate Nick Khan who has been the most influential man in wrestling, other than Vince himself dare I say vetoing some of his power. Securing that deal with Netflix is insane, it will make my subscription more worthwhile now lol
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I hope the Netflix deal allows us to watch the classic moments and matches from Monday Night Raw history.
 
The_KING said:
I hope the Netflix deal allows us to watch the classic moments and matches from Monday Night Raw history.
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I think they mentioned the Network would end? I would hope over a period of time, all the insane archive footage makes its way to Netflix; that library alone makes the 5 billion worth it. Netflix do have a clause to move away after 5 years but that’s still 2.5 billion in the pocket for WWE and I don’t think their relationship will end there, we will get all the content over a period of time I would hope from the Network and then new originals with Netflix budgets. The quality of the originals have been great as they are so I expect more improvement; that Kurt Angle documentary when he came back was special, worthy of an Academy/Emmy.

Or how about that WWF adult animation, camp WWF or something, it wont be the same without Vince but that was hilarious lol
 

WWE SmackDown HIGHLIGHTS – February 9, 2024​

  • Seth “Freakin” Rollins’ WrestleMania challenger will be decided inside the Elimination Chamber.
  • Drew McIntyre def. AJ Styles to qualify for the Elimination Chamber
  • Bianca Belair def. Michin to qualify for the Elimination Chamber
  • Dakota Kai helped Bayley fend off Damage CTRL with a steel chair
  • Pete Dunne & Tyler Bate def. #DIY to win the right to challenge The Judgment Day at WWE Elimination Chamber
  • Randy Orton def. Sami Zayn to Qualify for the Elimination Chamber
 
I just read the complete lawsuit filed on Vince McMahon. I'm disgusted beyond belief. In fact the things that the women claims are so miserable and horrible that I'm still wondering on whether she is speaking the truth. Such are the things she claims Vince McMahon and John Laurinaitis did to her.
 
Elimination chamber is going to be one hell of an event. Seth Rollins might have to face Randy at the WM.
 
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Elimination chamber is going to be one hell of an event. Seth Rollins might have to face Randy at the WM.
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They should have Charlotte Flair as the final chamber participant, have her come out right at the end and squash Seth; Seth is practically a diva anyway, best chance to put a major male title on a female, I don’t think it will hurt Seth much, he openly admits Becky gets the better off him every night.
 

WWE RAW Card for February 12, 2024 Episode:​

  • Men's Elimination Chamber qualifying match: “Big” Bronson Reed vs. Bobby Lashley.
  • Men's Elimination Chamber qualifying match: LA Knight vs. Ivar.
  • Women's Elimination Chamber Qualifying match: Liv Morgan vs. Zoey Stark.
  • R-Truth vs. JD McDonagh.
  • The New Day & Jey Uso vs. Imperium.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Elimination chamber is going to be one hell of an event. Seth Rollins might have to face Randy at the WM.
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Doesn't seem like a match with alot of heat. Both are babyfaces. Plus, Orton is on a different brand. I think McIntyre feels like the favorite to face Rollins based on how the booking has been. But we have already seen that match twice and it was fine.

Maybe a three-way with Rollins, McIntyre and Zayn.

Orton, Owens, LA Knight need compelling matches for Mania. Though I think LA vs Logan Paul could be a good idea to put the US title on Knight.
 
Has anyone seen The Iron Claw? I am going to be finally watching it over the weekend. It's about the Von Erichs, and you have Zac Efron as Kevin Von Erich, Jeremy Allen White of The Bear fame as Kerry and Holt McLaney, who was awesome in Mindhunter as Fritz. I have heard great things about it and being a wrestling fan, it's so rare to see great wrestling movies. The only one I can even recall is Aronofsky's The Wrestler starring Mickey Rourke. So excited for this one.

@shaz619
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Has anyone seen The Iron Claw? I am going to be finally watching it over the weekend. It's about the Von Erichs, and you have Zac Efron as Kevin Von Erich, Jeremy Allen White of The Bear fame as Kerry and Holt McLaney, who was awesome in Mindhunter as Fritz. I have heard great things about it and being a wrestling fan, it's so rare to see great wrestling movies. The only one I can even recall is Aronofsky's The Wrestler starring Mickey Rourke. So excited for this one.

@shaz619
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Welcome back mahh gawwd do you believe in miracles! lol I haven’t seen the movie but have heard good things, am going to the cinema this week with a mate and it’s between this and the british horror baghead; selling a mate on a wrestling movie will be challenging aha

Absolutely, I hope this is decent at least to add to a largely weak portfolio. The Wrestler is the gold standard, Wrestling’s ‘Rocky’ I’d say, that movie really hits you in the feels, I am not ashamed to admit I cried watching it, to people who say this business is fake I encourage them to watch that. It relaunched Mickey’s career to which was lovely after the struggled he went through; he was perfect for the role to say the least. Let me know how it goes bud
 
shaz619 said:
Welcome back mahh gawwd do you believe in miracles! lol I haven’t seen the movie but have heard good things, am going to the cinema this week with a mate and it’s between this and the british horror baghead; selling a mate on a wrestling movie will be challenging aha

Absolutely, I hope this is decent at least to add to a largely weak portfolio. The Wrestler is the gold standard, Wrestling’s ‘Rocky’ I’d say, that movie really hits you in the feels, I am not ashamed to admit I cried watching it, to people who say this business is fake I encourage them to watch that. It relaunched Mickey’s career to which was lovely after the struggled he went through; he was perfect for the role to say the least. Let me know how it goes bud
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Hahah glad to be back. I think I will be straying clear of the cricket boards for the most part. I don't have it in me to indulge in toxic debates anymore. But this thread is forever.

Ah so glad to see someone who shares my love for that movie. Rourke is incredible in it. The Best Actor Oscar was stolen from him that year. And yeah man that movie cuts deep. So having that kind of reaction to it makes total sense. It is a remarkably realistic portrayal of the toll this business can take on a person. Which is surprising since Aronofsky wasn't even a wrestling fan apparently. Rourke's character bore a lot of similarities to Terry Funk imo. I wonder if that's who he was modelled after? But yeah, an absolute modern day classic that film.
 
@shaz619 are they trying to do the Sami-NXT storyline on the main-roster? Because I hope they are and that this ends with Sami becoming World Champion. For weeks now he has been losing and they seem to make a point about it on commentary. They've been doing interviews with him too where he's kinda questioning himself and has self-doubt. Honestly, Sami is by far the most under-utilized guy on their roster. He can talk, he's arguably one of the best in the world in the ring and he can play the that underdog babyface role to perfection. The tag title WrestleMania main-event was nice but we all know that he should have been the guy who ended Roman's reign. The least they can do now is put the other World title on him. Because he has been completely cooled off eventhough he was the hottest babyface in the company just a year ago. Not even Cody was as hot as him at one point.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Has anyone seen The Iron Claw? I am going to be finally watching it over the weekend. It's about the Von Erichs, and you have Zac Efron as Kevin Von Erich, Jeremy Allen White of The Bear fame as Kerry and Holt McLaney, who was awesome in Mindhunter as Fritz. I have heard great things about it and being a wrestling fan, it's so rare to see great wrestling movies. The only one I can even recall is Aronofsky's The Wrestler starring Mickey Rourke. So excited for this one.

@shaz619
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That's on my watchlist. Usually these films are gross exaggerations of real events but in this case - the actual story is more dramatic than what's shown on screen.

For example, they haven't included the death of Chris Von Erich.

An ex-wrestler once compared the Von Erichs to the Kennedys which was such an apt statement. That many tragedies in one family is staggering.

Kerry was maybe not the best worker but easily the biggest star from the brothers. IMO he would've been huge in 80s WWF as the #2 babyface behind Hogan. Imagine him instead of Ultimate Racist at WM6. Also, welcome back !
 
Hitman said:
I just read the complete lawsuit filed on Vince McMahon. I'm disgusted beyond belief. In fact the things that the women claims are so miserable and horrible that I'm still wondering on whether she is speaking the truth. Such are the things she claims Vince McMahon and John Laurinaitis did to her.
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You read the whole lawsuit ? I tapped out after seeing the first few texts. They are beyond words.

I'd like to believe this isn't true but unfortunately VKM and sexual harassment is nothing new. The ex-referee Rita Chatterton also alleged he assaulted her in a limousine in 1986.

IMO he picked this behaviour up from his childhood. The man was sexually abused by his violent stepfather. He never knew his real father until he was a teenager, and was "Old School Irish" in that he didn't show much outward affection. He probably was too stubborn to seek counselling.

He may be scrubbed from their archives like Benoit. Imagine working so hard for 40 years only for your legacy to be destroyed in the space of 2 years.
 

WWE RAW Results for February 12, 2024 Episode:​

  • Jey Uso & The New Day def. Imperium
  • Bobby Lashley def. “Big” Bronson Reed to qualify for the Elimination Chamber
  • Cody Rhodes and Seth “Freakin” Rollins agreed to form an alliance against The Rock and Roman Reigns
  • Liv Morgan def. Zoey Stark to qualify for Elimination Chamber
  • JD McDonagh def. R-Truth; #DIY saved R-Truth from a Judgment Day beatdown
  • Becky Lynch and Rhea Ripley worked together to dispel Nia Jax
  • LA Knight def. Ivar to qualify for the Elimination Chamber
  • Shinsuke Nakamura def. Sami Zayn
  • Cody Rhodes helped Sami Zayn against Drew McIntyre and Shinsuke Nakamura
 
Markhor said:
That's on my watchlist. Usually these films are gross exaggerations of real events but in this case - the actual story is more dramatic than what's shown on screen.

For example, they haven't included the death of Chris Von Erich.

An ex-wrestler once compared the Von Erichs to the Kennedys which was such an apt statement. That many tragedies in one family is staggering.

Kerry was maybe not the best worker but easily the biggest star from the brothers. IMO he would've been huge in 80s WWF as the #2 babyface behind Hogan. Imagine him instead of Ultimate Racist at WM6. Also, welcome back !
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Yup. I am well aware of the tragedy. Having read about it and seen it explored fairly well on Dark Side of the Ring. It's incredible how so much tragedy can befall one family. But I can understand them leaving out certain details because just the tragic stuff is so much that you wouldn't have anything else to focus on in the movie. Generally speaking I have never had an issue with movies not being entirely accurate historically.

Yeah I didn't get Kerry's booking in WWF. He won the IC Championship within months of coming on and was booked very strongly at the start despite the stupid's name he was given. But somewhere down the line he was just another guy on the roster, lost in the shuffle.

Thanks man. Glad to be back.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
@shaz619 are they trying to do the Sami-NXT storyline on the main-roster? Because I hope they are and that this ends with Sami becoming World Champion. For weeks now he has been losing and they seem to make a point about it on commentary. They've been doing interviews with him too where he's kinda questioning himself and has self-doubt. Honestly, Sami is by far the most under-utilized guy on their roster. He can talk, he's arguably one of the best in the world in the ring and he can play the that underdog babyface role to perfection. The tag title WrestleMania main-event was nice but we all know that he should have been the guy who ended Roman's reign. The least they can do now is put the other World title on him. Because he has been completely cooled off even though he was the hottest babyface in the company just a year ago. Not even Cody was as hot as him at one point.
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If they are, it's one year too late, he was red hot this time last year and Hunter failed to capitalise on it. I am all for a Sami push if they still go ahead, but I am not confident and I agree with you that he is not used well enough, his opinions on Gaza might not help him either. I don't know if the audience are that upset about Sami's booking, maybe if they do put him in a WHC match; he should lose in 30 seconds like Bryan did against Sheamus?

I feel as though Gunther has all the heat and needs a big gig at Mania, unfortunate for him the Lesnar match can't happen but alternatively; a WHC match on Night 2? where he absolutely crushes Seth. He has made huge strides in the last 12 months and developed his character well and talking skills thanks to shrewd feuds with The Mizz (so underrated) and others.
 
Hitman said:
I just read the complete lawsuit filed on Vince McMahon. I'm disgusted beyond belief. In fact the things that the women claims are so miserable and horrible that I'm still wondering on whether she is speaking the truth. Such are the things she claims Vince McMahon and John Laurinaitis did to her.
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Markhor said:
You read the whole lawsuit ? I tapped out after seeing the first few texts. They are beyond words.

I'd like to believe this isn't true but unfortunately VKM and sexual harassment is nothing new. The ex-referee Rita Chatterton also alleged he assaulted her in a limousine in 1986.

IMO he picked this behaviour up from his childhood. The man was sexually abused by his violent stepfather. He never knew his real father until he was a teenager, and was "Old School Irish" in that he didn't show much outward affection. He probably was too stubborn to seek counselling.

He may be scrubbed from their archives like Benoit. Imagine working so hard for 40 years only for your legacy to be destroyed in the space of 2 years.
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Vince is a seriously disturbed individual there's no doubt there, and there's a lot he should probably go to Jail for which the whole world will never know, least of all his involvement in the murder of Jimmy Snuka's girlfriend.

But in this case, his ego has finally been defeated; if he continued to pay this woman, more specifically $3 million dollars, he would still be involved with the company today.

This case needs to be thoroughly investigated for me to determine the full extent of Vince's crimes, however it's worth pointing out the western victim was happy to go to space mountain so long the deposits were made into her bank account and her requests for various items were completed.
 
shaz619 said:
Vince is a seriously disturbed individual there's no doubt there, and there's a lot he should probably go to Jail for which the whole world will never know, least of all his involvement in the murder of Jimmy Snuka's girlfriend.

But in this case, his ego has finally been defeated; if he continued to pay this woman, more specifically $3 million dollars, he would still be involved with the company today.

This case needs to be thoroughly investigated for me to determine the full extent of Vince's crimes, however it's worth pointing out the western victim was happy to go to space mountain so long the deposits were made into her bank account and her requests for various items were completed.
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True. Would like to know A) why VKM stopped paying the money and B) Janel Grant hasn't pressed criminal charges given the illegal activity described in the suit - although I suppose conviction would require a higher burden of proof than a civil trial.

Jimmy Murderfly Snuka is undoubtedly guilty of killing Nancy Argentino. Not only did he change his story countless times, he had a history of domestic abuse and the pathologist report clearly described an assault with a blunt instrument. The local police in Allentown, PA apparently were notoriously corrupt so VKM paying them off to protect his #1 babyface at the time wasn't out of the question.
 
If they are, it's one year too late, he was red hot this time last year and Hunter failed to capitalise on it. I am all for a Sami push if they still go ahead, but I am not confident and I agree with you that he is not used well enough, his opinions on Gaza might not help him either. I don't know if the audience are that upset about Sami's booking, maybe if they do put him in a WHC match; he should lose in 30 seconds like Bryan did against Sheamus?
shaz619 said:
I feel as though Gunther has all the heat and needs a big gig at Mania, unfortunate for him the Lesnar match can't happen but alternatively; a WHC match on Night 2? where he absolutely crushes Seth. He has made huge strides in the last 12 months and developed his character well and talking skills thanks to shrewd feuds with The Mizz (so underrated) and others.
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Yeah I might be reading too much into it. Or they might just be turning him heel. Regardless, WWE and Triple H did a great injustice to Sami by wasting that opportunity at Elimination Chamber. And I don't see how you get him back to being that white-hot. That moment was like lightning in a bottle and sure they got to tell that story with him and Owens winning the tag belts in the main-event of WrestleMania, which was nice...but it wasn't the World title.

Agree re: Gunther. The Miz feud was really well-executed. Gunther definitely needs to move on to the World title soon but I think for now he is going to holding on to the IC belt. Though its a massive step-down from Brock, my guess would be that he faces Andrade at Mania? Can't think of many other names on the roster that he hasn't gone through already.
 
England messed up big time by dropping Rohit. Now he is going to put them to the sword and make them pay.
 
Vince McMahon was having his female wrestlers compete in bra and panties matches, not to mention the fact that he was making other wrestlers literally kiss his backside on live tv.

He was always messed up in the head. I am just surprised that it has taken this long for allegations of this nature against him to finally surface.
 
The_KING said:
Vince McMahon was having his female wrestlers compete in bra and panties matches, not to mention the fact that he was making other wrestlers literally kiss his backside on live tv.

He was always messed up in the head. I am just surprised that it has taken this long for allegations of this nature against him to finally surface.
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He even suggested an incest angle between him and Stephanie. Mercifully that never made air.
 
shaz619 said:
If they are, it's one year too late, he was red hot this time last year and Hunter failed to capitalise on it. I am all for a Sami push if they still go ahead, but I am not confident and I agree with you that he is not used well enough, his opinions on Gaza might not help him either. I don't know if the audience are that upset about Sami's booking, maybe if they do put him in a WHC match; he should lose in 30 seconds like Bryan did against Sheamus?

I feel as though Gunther has all the heat and needs a big gig at Mania, unfortunate for him the Lesnar match can't happen but alternatively; a WHC match on Night 2? where he absolutely crushes Seth. He has made huge strides in the last 12 months and developed his character well and talking skills thanks to shrewd feuds with The Mizz (so underrated) and others.
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Yes Sami definitely doesn't have the same momentum he had last year post Rumble. But I think he's going to be the one to dethrone Gunther.
 
So we got the heel Rock wearing cuban vests in 2024. Who would have thought that. Needs to grow his hair as well if he can.
He's still not totally gone into his heel character like he did back in the day but I think he's a few promos away from that.
@Suleiman you got your wish about cuban vest Rock.
 
Seems like it's going to be Gunther vs Sami, Drew vs Seth, LA Knight vs AJ, Jey vs Jimmy, Logan vs Andrade or a multi men US title match. Judgement Day needs a compelling feud as well for Mania, none of DIY and British Strong Style has gotten over yet. Creeds might eventually be the ones to dethrone JD but don't think they're ready yet. Certainly don't want a Randy vs Solo match.
At this point, I'd really love a Randy vs heel Cena at Mania.
 

SmackDown Results: February 16, 2024​

  • Kevin Owens def. “Dirty” Dominik Mysterio to qualify for the Elimination Chamber
  • Tiffany Stratton def. Zelina Vega to qualify for the Elimination Chamber
  • AOP def. Javier Bernal & Beau Morris
  • Logan Paul def. The Miz to qualify for the Elimination Chamber Match
  • Naomi def. Alba Fyre to qualify for the Elimination Chamber Match
  • Nick Aldis announced Bron Breakker has signed with SmackDown
  • The Rock and Roman Reigns formed a seemingly unstoppable Bloodline
 
BunnyRabbit said:
So we got the heel Rock wearing cuban vests in 2024. Who would have thought that. Needs to grow his hair as well if he can.
He's still not totally gone into his heel character like he did back in the day but I think he's a few promos away from that.
@Suleiman you got your wish about cuban vest Rock.
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He seemed hesitant at the start of his promo, but toward the end he started to really embrace it. Started to talk with the same cadence as his OG heel run.

Still, good to see.
 
Suleiman said:
He seemed hesitant at the start of his promo, but toward the end he started to really embrace it. Started to talk with the same cadence as his OG heel run.

Still, good to see.
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It was better than I expected lol was like Nation Of Domination Rock, the $500 shirt is back to.

I am more excited now
 
Suleiman said:
He seemed hesitant at the start of his promo, but toward the end he started to really embrace it. Started to talk with the same cadence as his OG heel run.

Still, good to see.
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Yes. Having been away from wrestling for 2 decades now. It will take time for him to shed the "Dwayneness" in The Rock.
 

WWE RAW Card for February 19, 2024 Episode:​

  • Cody Rhodes vs. Drew McIntyre
  • Chad Gable vs. Ivar
  • WWE Intercontinental Championship: Gunther (c) vs. Jey Uso
  • DIY (Tommaso Ciampa & Johnny Gargano), The Miz & R-Truth vs. The Judgment Day (Damian Priest, Finn Balor, Dominik Mysterio & JD McDonagh)
  • Last Chance Battle Royal To Qualify For Women’s Elimination Chamber: Shayna Baszler vs. Michin vs. Zoey Stark vs. Alba Fyre vs. Zelina Vega
 

Raw Results: February 19, 2024​

  • Drew McIntyre def. “The American Nightmare” Cody Rhodes
  • Raquel Rodriguez won a Last Chance Battle Royal
  • The Judgment Day (Undisputed WWE Tag Team Champions “Senor Money in the Bank” Damian Priest and Finn Balor, JD McDonagh, and “Dirty” Dominik Mysterio) in an 8-Man Tag Team Match
  • Chad Gable def. Ivar
  • “The Ring General” Gunther def. “Main Event” Jey Uso to retain the WWE Intercontinental Championship
 

WWE SmackDown Results – February 2023, 2024​

  • Tiffany Stratton def. Liv Morgan
  • Bron Breakker def. Dante Chen
  • Pete Dunne & Tyler Bate def. “Dirty” Dominik Mysterio & JD McDonagh
  • Authors of Pain def. The Street Profits
  • Drew McIntyre def. LA Knight by Disqualification
 
shaz619 said:
Welcome back mahh gawwd do you believe in miracles! lol I haven’t seen the movie but have heard good things, am going to the cinema this week with a mate and it’s between this and the british horror baghead; selling a mate on a wrestling movie will be challenging aha

Absolutely, I hope this is decent at least to add to a largely weak portfolio. The Wrestler is the gold standard, Wrestling’s ‘Rocky’ I’d say, that movie really hits you in the feels, I am not ashamed to admit I cried watching it, to people who say this business is fake I encourage them to watch that. It relaunched Mickey’s career to which was lovely after the struggled he went through; he was perfect for the role to say the least. Let me know how it goes bud
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RedwoodOriginal 3MB back Reunion is here to stay :therock
 
It's amazing how the senior most member of a stable has taken a back seat and let the younger ones take the leadership. Balor has been pretty selfless in his JD run with him voluntarily taking a back seat letting Rhea, Damian and Dom take all the heat.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
So we got the heel Rock wearing cuban vests in 2024. Who would have thought that. Needs to grow his hair as well if he can.
He's still not totally gone into his heel character like he did back in the day but I think he's a few promos away from that.
@Suleiman you got your wish about cuban vest Rock.
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This Rock is pretty vanilla compared to old Rock. But, that's understandable because this era is different. Saying something controversial can cause backlash.

I personally feel he shouldn't be a heel at this stage of his career. WWE should've used him as a face and he should've put over a young talent.
 
sweep_shot said:
This Rock is pretty vanilla compared to old Rock. But, that's understandable because this era is different. Saying something controversial can cause backlash.

I personally feel he shouldn't be a heel at this stage of his career. WWE should've used him as a face and he should've put over a young talent.
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he actually cut a promo in some interview a day before Elimination Chamber on Waller, Seth and Cody and it was definitely the Hollywood Heel Rock level stuff.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
he actually cut a promo in some interview a day before Elimination Chamber on Waller, Seth and Cody and it was definitely the Hollywood Heel Rock level stuff.
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That's good. However, I still think he can't be his 100% old self due to PC culture. He has to restrain himself.

For example, old Rock made fun of Stephanie McMahon in a derogatory manner. He probably can't do that type of stuff anymore. Not to that extent. Feminists may eat him alive.

Also, old Rock was not shy to offend different cultures. For example, he once said La Resistance sucked because they were French. He probably cannot cut those promos anymore.

But, yeah. Great to see him back.
 

WWE RAW Confirmed Matches: February 26, 2024​

  • The New Day vs. Imperium
  • Sami Zayn vs. Shinsuke Nakamura
 

WWE Raw Results: February 26, 2024​

  • Raquel Rodriguez def. Chelsea Green.
  • Sami Zayn def. Shinsuke Nakamura.
  • Imperium def. The New Day in a Street Fight
  • Shayna Baszler & Zoey Stark def. Candice LeRae & Indi Hartwell
  • Nia Jax def. Liv Morgan by Disqualification
  • Cody Rhodes def. Grayson Waller.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
Seems like it's going to be Gunther vs Sami, Drew vs Seth, LA Knight vs AJ, Jey vs Jimmy, Logan vs Andrade or a multi men US title match. Judgement Day needs a compelling feud as well for Mania, none of DIY and British Strong Style has gotten over yet. Creeds might eventually be the ones to dethrone JD but don't think they're ready yet. Certainly don't want a Randy vs Solo match.
At this point, I'd really love a Randy vs heel Cena at Mania.
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Logan Paul v Randy Orton. JD v R-Truth and The Miz.

Andrade v Shinsuke Nakamura? That could be hard-hitting match.

Don't know who Kevin Owens wrestles. Could be a Three Way with him, Orton and Logan Paul too.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Logan Paul v Randy Orton. JD v R-Truth and The Miz.

Andrade v Shinsuke Nakamura? That could be hard-hitting match.

Don't know who Kevin Owens wrestles. Could be a Three Way with him, Orton and Logan Paul too.
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Randy vs Logan is a weird feud. Randy doesn't want the US title and him putting Logan over wouldn't make much sense as Logan is already a part timer. Seems like Trips didn't have any plans for Randy for Mania which is shocking cause he is the biggest "legend" working full time in WWE currently. And there isn't really any story in place for Randy Logan feud. But I guess Randy Logan would be a better worked match than Randy Solo. Plus good chance of a Randy win there. A multi (5 or 6) men ladder match for US title would be more crowd pleasing. There's going to be a lot of storylines but the ladder match could provide the high pace spot match.

I haven't found any Nakamura match great in his main roster tenure yet. Him vs Randy in 2017 on a random SD episode was probably his best wrestled match.

More interested to see Andrade vs Gunther down the line.

Theory vs Waller might happen too as they have been teasing that.
 
Outside Cody finishing his story. Wrestlemania looks so bland and goofy, you are going to see a great exhibition of athletics, but I watch that in the Olympics; not in professional wrestling.

WWE are yet to recreate the magic they did with Orton/Edge in the ring at Backlash, and that wasn’t even a live production.

You got Logan Paul working with Orton, it’s an insult tot he business and if he is considered a good worker then the industry peaked a long time ago.

WWE is a monster on the same level of a Coca Cola, it doesn’t matter what they do wrong the business will be strong but they peaked long ago, who even watches a full 3 or 2 hour wrestling show these days with lead billing from Logan Paul and The World Heavyweight Tranny.
 
On the flip side, I got all warm and fuzzy watching Sting come down the rafters one last time. That was a segment well done, as much as I hate the Bucks.

AEW have done many wrongs but outside some crazy spots, the booking and use of Sting has been handled extremely well, the icing on the cake would have been a singles match as his retirement affair but lets see how things turn out, I”ll be watching The Crow regardless.
 
I watched an in-ring segment involving Kevin Nash at ICW recently, he looks well old and his legs were probably in quad tearing mode, but the aura, mannerisms, ring presence was all there and be delivered on the mic to and he didn’t need to say much at all. We went from guys like that to little midgets doing flips with zero aura or any kind of Charisma. These old guys really got ‘it’ man.
 
Screw this version of wrestling, it’s like a toxic girlfriend you keep running back to, I hate it so much but love it to
 
BunnyRabbit said:
Randy vs Logan is a weird feud. Randy doesn't want the US title and him putting Logan over wouldn't make much sense as Logan is already a part timer. Seems like Trips didn't have any plans for Randy for Mania which is shocking cause he is the biggest "legend" working full time in WWE currently. And there isn't really any story in place for Randy Logan feud. But I guess Randy Logan would be a better worked match than Randy Solo. Plus good chance of a Randy win there. A multi (5 or 6) men ladder match for US title would be more crowd pleasing. There's going to be a lot of storylines but the ladder match could provide the high pace spot match.

I haven't found any Nakamura match great in his main roster tenure yet. Him vs Randy in 2017 on a random SD episode was probably his best wrestled match.

More interested to see Andrade vs Gunther down the line.

Theory vs Waller might happen too as they have been teasing that.
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Logan Paul is perceived as good for business because he brings eye-balls with his young fans, and alot of social media buzz too. Personally, I don't mind him. He's a good enough heel with good instincts and is decent in the ring for someone with little to no experience. But this match would feel a little out of place. Orton should be figured in to a more high-profile feud at Mania. Definitely feels like HHH didn't have any plans for him. Randy-Solo would make no sense since Orton's beef is with Roman more than any other member. I think HHH f**ked up Orton's return by booking that four way at Royal Rumble when it should have been Orton v Reigns. There you could have had Solo interfering to set up a match at Mania.

I think Gunther's run is nearing its end. Which is fine because he should be moving on to the main-event now. For me, any match they do for him at Mania now will pale in comparison to what we could have gotten: Gunther v Brock. So I think you gotta go with Sami as the guy who finally dethrones him. Gunther wins at Mania but Sami gets screwed in some way. They have the rematch at Backlash in France and Sami wins infront of a hot crowd.

Yeah I agree, Nakamura has been a major miss on the main-roster. Which is surprising because some of the matches he had in New Japan with guys like Kota Ibushi and AJ Styles are arguably some of the best matches of the modern era. Even in NXT he was amazing for his short stint. His match against Sami Zayn really stands out.
 
shaz619 said:
On the flip side, I got all warm and fuzzy watching Sting come down the rafters one last time. That was a segment well done, as much as I hate the Bucks.

AEW have done many wrongs but outside some crazy spots, the booking and use of Sting has been handled extremely well, the icing on the cake would have been a singles match as his retirement affair but lets see how things turn out, I”ll be watching The Crow regardless.
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Yeah I agree. I would liked some singles matches too. Even if they were short big moves matches but it is what it is. But overall the booking of Sting has been done well and he has been treated like a legend too. I actually haven't minded this Young Bucks feud either. The angles were not as bad as they usually are with the Bucks. They did get some heat. And Sting's promo last week was one of the best promos I have ever seen him do. There was the little instance of them getting their own crowd to chant the name of the competition's top babyface but for AEW standards that's a minor blemish.
 
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