Final Boss Rock is the character we never thought we would be getting and it's been sheer joy to get it even though it's still nascent. The delivery of that promo was cerebral and perfect. Even the final ifffff you smell was done very well.
No I think if there's anyone who will interfere in the match to neutralize The Rock, it's poster boy of Attitude Era Stone Cold himself. The Rock's biggest opponent. And Austin doesn't need to wrestle a match afterwards to make his interference mean something because that's just what his character does. Arrives, Raises Hell, Leaves.
Yeah but what then again was the point of doing that stare down on SmackDown between Rock and Roman and then make the match official? Because that made Cody look really bad and at the time their explanation for why Cody stepped aside made no sense. Also if Cody vs Roman really was final then what match was The Rock wrestling initially? Because you can't tell me that the tag match was something they planned initially. I don't believe that.
I dunno man. I think that stepping aside part completely buried Cody because it wasn't explained and it being all whispers. And then couple of nights later he goes on RAW and talks about going after the Championship he explicitly said he didn't want to go after. I just feel that if they really foresaw the negative reaction to Rock v Roman they wouldn't have done those two things. But like you said, we shouldn't be bothered either way. Because as fans we are getting even more than what we expected. And that's the beauty of the pro-wrestling. Its all about fan-service and giving us what we want.
and for once actually have more of an organic outrage and then do the Reigns match at SummerSlam, doesn’t have to be WM 41. Yes, that’s the risk with The Rock, on the flip side there’s Saudi to but Dwyane knows it would be a PR disaster for him so he is going to be making a movie during the Saudi shows.
Yup. I can't wait for the face to face
Hahah okay now that would bring nuclear heat but that would also be the end of Cody as kind of credible babfyace. But yeah they'll never take that risk especially in Philadelphia. I just hope its not an anything goes, endless interference match, which is one of the potential stips. Cody needs to beat Roman clean in a 30 minute classic.On that promo during RAW I don’t think he explicitly gave his formal decision? on who he was going after, I see it now as more of a way to bring the irrelevant tranny into the Storyline. Cody is the most pushed wrestler since Reigns himself, they have not done anything to remotely hurt him from a booking POV, in fact you could argue maybe that’s an issue, because some of the most over faces in history have generally been under dogs, I don’t see Cody as an under dog. So having a few words with Rock, if that to people did bury him then it was by design and a positive because of the manufactured reaction to get Cody some more baby face sympathy, perhaps the intervention of The Rock allowed him to bring some logic/reason to how a star should be made, unlike the one dimensional booking from Hunter; wouldn’t shock me if his brainless / cry baby promo on SD a week later was a shoot because The Rock is his boss now.
I agree as a fan I don’t care where it happens, SS sounds nice to. In fact they can bury Cody at Mania for all I care
no idea. maybe it was a flustercluck of same bad booking decisions that was somehow saved by that press conference segment.
Steamboat was able to wrestle a full singles match in his 50s after being away from the ring for over a decade. And Dwayne's wrestling style is very much tapered down style (no acrobatics etc). I think it was only after him gassing up during that Jindar segment did he find out he really needs to get his body condition to wrestling again. Think it's just his style that he doesn't really need to do too much to be able to get a match done. And Dwayne rarely does a job he doesn't feel like he can pull off. I think he'll be fine as long as he has a good opponent (Roman). Edge is the same age as him and he's wrestling 20-25 min matches regularly.
no i don't want Drew to lose that match. Punk costing Seth would make for a better sighting.
Steamboat could probably wrestle a match today if you asked him to. He has always been in unreal physical shape. The Rock on the other hand has been hitting the juice pretty hard. He is bigger than he has ever been. And when you're moving that much muscle mass around and you haven't been in the ring in over a decade, chances are something can go wrong.
Yup he is the only one who well and truly excites me with everything he does which is why him being injured for most of the year is such a bummer.
He says he will be at WrestleMania. Interested to see how they use him.
Plus he can literally go ask anyone from his family to help him prepare for in ring work. The whole family is wrestling royalty.
His selling has always been his best attribute and that sorta character doesn't go away (like a person doesn't forget how to drive a manual car even if he hasn't driven it in years). And he is professional enough to know what the audience wants to see from him. Like no one is expecting him to hit a 450 engage in plethora of submission reversals. Austin at 57 was able to do a respectable singles match after an 16-17 year gap so Dwayne should be fine.
Yes Dwayne may not have the in ring IQ level of Austin, but it's a tag match. He has Roman and Cody who have very high ring IQs as well. I doubt he'll try to work like his past self. He is very conscious about not getting injured.
Rock v Randy for me as a dream match is up there with Taker v Sting which we never got.
Yes it would be brilliant. So many storylines they can play it with.
Yes from a casual perspective, it seems like Austin is just a brawler and all his matches work the same, but he is a genius. He does little stuff from a distant eye that it always comes off. Plus he is technically as astute as any other. I remember his matches with Kurt. He was toe to toe with him in terms of technical profiency.
That was a totally different Orton to what Randy is right now. That was the upstart Randy who was yet to find his cool edge. Plus his character morphed into so much more since then. Now Randy is himself a legend and one of the best ever. He has the presence of levels of guys like Cena, Punk etc. Plus Foley ruined that handicap tag match for me at Mania 20.
Rey is still treated like a jobber even though everyone calls him a legend.
Yes I was talking about the 316 gimmick which Austin is most famous for.
Rock vs Rey would be a weird match for me. I wouldn't say it would be a bad match, but it would be intriguing to see how they work it.
Even under Vince, he wasn't used like a star he is in his second run. Like if i have to make a list, Rey would be the guy who has taken the most physical beating in his WWE career. I don't think there's anyone else who's got beaten up as much as Rey has had.
Yes Rey should have been treated like a proper main eventer rather than becoming a punching bag for Kane or other big guys back in the day. And his current run is going pretty bad since his feud with Dominik last Mania. Think anyone could read between the lines with Cena there. He's pretty desperate to becoming a mega movie star and is doing all sorts of things to get him noticed.
I didn't get what your first paragraph was about.
Agreed. For all the kids who grew up in Ruthless Aggression era, Rey was the main character for us.
That should be the next wrestling film - the life and death of Bruiser Brody.
Yeah I heard alot of good things about TNA till Scott D'Amore was there. I wouldn't be surprised if they are still doing good. I think this is a good niche for them to thrive in. Not everyone is going to be in WWE and not everyone should be in AEW. MLW is too small so TNA can end up being a good place for guys like Ali and Nemeth, which allows them to work NJPW and indies too.
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Jack Perry disputes apologizing for CM Punk fight, was denied AEW release request
Perry wants to set the record straight about the situation at All In.
I mean who the hell does he even think he is? Tony ofcourse never ceases to amaze me with his absolute inability to run a wrestling promotion or deal with talent. But the amount of entitlement I see from this talentless, empty-headed Jack Perry is just on another level. No one in AEW is as bad as him and that's saying something!
I hope I never see him on AEW TV again and he goes back to the indies.
Btw the faction that he is a part of in NJPW is considered as one of the worst factions in the history of wrestling by New Japan fans lol.
Balor is an IGF black belt holder in submission wrestling. I won't say he is someone who could be beaten up by fans. He can get over with fans. It's just his booking on the main roster has been terrible. His match with Roman was fantastic back in 2021 but had an awful ending of rope collapsing itself.
I don't know, WWE's production and camera angles has always been top notch. Much much better than any of their competitions have managed throughout history.
Both Ziggler and Ali are pretty underrated guys. Dolph got relegated to the jobber role for upcomers and from that position, he could never really recover. TNA could become a good ground for Ali to properly get over with the fans. He was going nowhere after he was put together with Retribution. But it's going to be a challenge for Ali. US wrestling is not very kind to South Asian pro wrestlers.
I didn't compare Ziggler with Balor, bro what are you on about.
Nah Balor's a good wrestler bro. Much better than Seth IMO. I know he supports LGBTQ etc which I don't agree to, but I think he's a good worker. He put over Priest back in NXT pretty well that led to his call up to the main roster. He had a great match with AJ back in 2017-18 which is probably their only singles match to date. He had good matches with Edge as well but it is just that the whole feud was endless and pointless.
For me, they were too much sometimes. Especially in recent years. I remember watching the Lashley v McIntyre WrestleMania match and just being disoriented by the amount of camera cuts.
I didn't know about his anti Rock sentiments.
I usually fast forward the boring parts of the match and some segments/matches entirely. So I didn't notice much.
Guess we'll disagree on Balor.
Guess we'll disagree on Balor.
