The Wrestling Discussion Thread

[shaz619]

) Told you. This guy gets a new gimmick every other day but he'll always remain a jobber.

Hamoosh you guys, I don't want someone else's shovel to bury him ) I have no issues when he jobs out after taking hits from our shovel though )

 

[Red Devil]

Hamoosh you guys, I don't want someone else's shovel to bury him ) I have no issues when he jobs out after taking hits from our shovel though )

Lool imagine if it isn't him and it's some new poster who gets banned because of these posts. That would be rough. )

 

[Adil_94]

ADR first reign was not boring but a without flare. I also have made worst title holders for other categories

WWE Championship: Rey Mysterio - Just because he only won it for an hour and didn't hold it properly.
WH Championship: Dolph Ziggler - Same as Mysterio, only held the belt for a tiny bit and then dropped it back to Edge.
Intercontinental Championship: Chyna - Should have given her the European belt, not the second top title in the company at the time.
United States Champion: Santino - It's a joke around him and just takes away all it's credibility.
European Championship: Can't remember the champions that well to remember who was their worst.
Hardcore Championship: Same as the Euro title, can't remember the champions
Women/Diva Championship: Kelly Kelly - Awful just pure awful
WWE Tag Team Championship: Otunga and John Cena - Just because it was stupid



Eugene never was a champ in the first place

I think those one night or one day title runs a shouldn't be on the list. Because they weren't given a proper run as champion. .i.e mysterio 30 mins as WWE champion. Or Ziggler like 2 hours. That's not a proper reign. I would say it has to be a month at least to judge it. Swagger as WHC and Mysterio in 2010 were pretty Non descript as champions. Didn't do much. And I didn't say if Eugene was was champ I was asking if u were Eugene. And I'm sure Eugene won a world tag team title with Regal. Or was that just on SVR 2006.


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[Adil_94]

ADR first reign was not boring but a without flare. I also have made worst title holders for other categories

WWE Championship: Rey Mysterio - Just because he only won it for an hour and didn't hold it properly.
WH Championship: Dolph Ziggler - Same as Mysterio, only held the belt for a tiny bit and then dropped it back to Edge.
Intercontinental Championship: Chyna - Should have given her the European belt, not the second top title in the company at the time.
United States Champion: Santino - It's a joke around him and just takes away all it's credibility.
European Championship: Can't remember the champions that well to remember who was their worst.
Hardcore Championship: Same as the Euro title, can't remember the champions
Women/Diva Championship: Kelly Kelly - Awful just pure awful
WWE Tag Team Championship: Otunga and John Cena - Just because it was stupid



Eugene never was a champ in the first place

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[Adil_94]

why would i be Eugene. did the real eugene come to this forum?
those one day title runs made no sense whatsoever. it only damaged the superstar stock. Thwagger run as WHC was designed to fail. there was heat involving him and the writers. he wanted to cash it on the WWE Champ cena which he didnt.
also Kanes 1 day title run isnt mentioned because of how good the script was. fans didnt care whatsoever

There was a poster on here who has been banned,any times for making non sensical posts. And he has posted under various different names. Since u are new to this thread I was just asking if you were this guy who had been nicknamed Eugene because of his idiotic posts in the past. Punk as champion in 2008 was pretty boring too. A lot of the first runs the superstars have with a world title are lacklustre.


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[shaz619]

There was a poster on here who has been banned,any times for making non sensical posts. And he has posted under various different names. Since u are new to this thread I was just asking if you were this guy who had been nicknamed Eugene because of his idiotic posts in the past. Punk as champion in 2008 was pretty boring too. A lot of the first runs the superstars have with a world title are lacklustre.


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This Undertaker can't be Eugene, it seems he has a brain; just look at the intelligence he is displaying in that list of worst champions in the WWE. I love the reasoning behind his choices, especially the short term reigns. I think that in the space of 30 minutes we learned so much about what Rey Mysterio's run would be like if it was extended and the same applies to the rest of the choices Undertaker has made.

How about who's the greatest Champion in WWE history?

I can't make up my mind between HHH, Stephanie and Brock Lesnar

 

[shaz619]

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Remember when Eugene thought he won the WHC on RAW ) right before the shovel was used to bury him, so many similarities with our fallen jobber hero DM

 

[Adil_94]

This Undertaker can't be Eugene, it seems he has a brain; just look at the intelligence he is displaying in that list of worst champions in the WWE. I love the reasoning behind his choices, especially the short term reigns. I think that in the space of 30 minutes we learned so much about what Rey Mysterio's run would be like if it was extended and the same applies to the rest of the choices Undertaker has made.

How about who's the greatest Champion in WWE history?

I can't make up my mind between HHH, Stephanie and Brock Lesnar

Hahaha tu boh chalaaki kithi mara praa. I'd say the best is hunter because he's the GOAT of our business. Without him rock n Austin wouldn't have become stars. He carried the attitude and ruthless aggression era.


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[Adil_94]

Remember when Eugene thought he won the WHC on RAW ) right before the shovel was used to bury him, so many similarities with our fallen jobber hero DM

. What Eugene dreams about every night


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[shaz619]

Hahaha tu boh chalaaki kithi mara praa. I'd say the best is hunter because he's the GOAT of our business. Without him rock n Austin wouldn't have become stars. He carried the attitude and ruthless aggression era.


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Nah yeraah miki sharmindah na kar, without HHH there would be no Hulk Hogan. Ric Flair = HHH wannabe. I just loved the moves Stephanie use to do, especially the ones in the office as the GM off smackdown. She was a great ambassador for women wrestling and mashAllah I loved her modesty in those beautiful dress in attitude era.

 

[shaz619]

. What Eugene dreams about every night


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) I almost forgot, Eugene gimmick was actually a big fan of HHH even more then the Rock etc lmao because they both "like to play games" with each other ) am on the floor LOL pretty much like our fallen jobber hero DM, don't you think he was the biggest fanboy on PP beyond the shehzad, Malik fans etc LOL

 

[shaz619]

punk v hardy is my top 20 feud of all time. remember it very well how mad as a cut snake i was when his music hit shortly after jeff winning the ladder match. was cranky all the time until jeff won it back. that followed by their beauty of a match at summer slam where taker returned. was completely gobsmaked

Greatest Feud in WWE is HHH Shovel v The entire roster

 

[Adil_94]

punk v hardy is my top 20 feud of all time. remember it very well how mad as a cut snake i was when his music hit shortly after jeff winning the ladder match. was cranky all the time until jeff won it back. that followed by their beauty of a match at summer slam where taker returned. was completely gobsmaked

Yeah that was his second run on smackdown in 2009. That was when I became a big fan of Punk. His work As a heel was awesome. His first run on raw was lacklustre. He had that mediocre feud with JBL. He was overshadowed by the likes of Batista Cena Y2J HBK. And then he lost the title in such a lame way at Unforgiven getting taken out by Legacy. Him n Jeff fed off each other real well plus on smackdown there weren't the big superstars to take the spotlight away from the world title feud. Taker was on a sabbatical. N rest of the big guns were on RAW.


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[Adil_94]

) I almost forgot, Eugene gimmick was actually a big fan of HHH even more then the Rock etc lmao because they both "like to play games" with each other ) am on the floor LOL pretty much like our fallen jobber hero DM, don't you think he was the biggest fanboy on PP beyond the shehzad, Malik fans etc LOL

Hahaha he was up there with the shehzad Malik fans and the ******* . His love for hunter was something else.


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[shaz619]

Hahaha he was up there with the shehzad Malik fans and the ******* . His love for hunter was something else.


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Bah gawd! what is the JobberTaker doing in the IMPACT ZONE!

Yeah he was I think he was the undisputed fanboy though; apparently us baith kindah HHH ne shovel nal

 

[Adil_94]

with taker out for a good chunk of that year. smackdown didnt have any face to represent the brand. punk and jeff made the brand relevant during their feud. and what impressed me the most in that was the realism. they both were throwing lines related to their real life.

Yeah coz hhh had quietly moved over to raw to feud with orton after he attacked Steph. Edge moved into the tag team division with y2j. And yeah you could sense a real life animosity between the two. Due to the clash of lifestyles. It felt like a legit feud. And punk played the part of pompous arrogant zealot to perfection. And yeah they made smackdown interesting to watch.


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[Adil_94]

what do you guys think of WWE splitting brands once again. and what should the structure be like ?

I would like the WHC back as it gives guys like Barrett rusev cesaro a chance to win a world title. But idk if the roster is deep enough for there to be a proper brand split.


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[Adil_94]

punk v hardy is my top 20 feud of all time. remember it very well how mad as a cut snake i was when his music hit shortly after jeff winning the ladder match. was cranky all the time until jeff won it back. that followed by their beauty of a match at summer slam where taker returned. was completely gobsmaked

What are your views on Punk in general and the way he departed. Was he CM Quit to you. Or did u sympathise with him.


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[Muhammed Ismaeel]

MASHALLAH!!! Undertaker accepts Islam (Mark new name Muhammed Ismaeel)

 

[dashing_man]

MASHALLAH!!! Undertaker accepts Islam (Mark new name Muhammed Ismaeel)

Mubrook!

 

[Slog]

What's the story with dashing_boy? Why does he keep getting thrown out of the ring? I know previously was due to be under different guises but what's the exact reason lol. Unlucky customer!

 

[dashing_man]

ADR first reign was not boring but a without flare. I also have made worst title holders for other categories

WWE Championship: Rey Mysterio - Just because he only won it for an hour and didn't hold it properly.
WH Championship: Dolph Ziggler - Same as Mysterio, only held the belt for a tiny bit and then dropped it back to Edge.
Intercontinental Championship: Chyna - Should have given her the European belt, not the second top title in the company at the time.
United States Champion: Santino - It's a joke around him and just takes away all it's credibility.
European Championship: Can't remember the champions that well to remember who was their worst.
Hardcore Championship: Same as the Euro title, can't remember the champions
Women/Diva Championship: Kelly Kelly - Awful just pure awful
WWE Tag Team Championship: Otunga and John Cena - Just because it was stupid



Eugene never was a champ in the first place

stop shaming my name

on serious note


WWE Championship: CM PUNK longest reign - Was still whining after that and thought he was going to be a mid carder again
WH Championship: Dolph had a purpose behind it. It was to push Edge once more. My pick would be Thwagger, no purpose at all. Lame, it made SD weak
Intercontinental Championship: Chyna - agree, it sucked. Made Jericho a tool.
United States Champion: Cena - his latest reign didn't serve any purpose besides burrying talents
European Championship: William Regal
Hardcore Championship: this title itself was a joke. the face was like something I would throw away in the garbage. it was more like making fun of ECW pathetic!
Women/Diva Championship: Kelly Kelly, Candice both joke of Divas. only better off escourting wrestlers to the ring
WWE Tag Team Championship: Otunga and John Cena - anything related to Cena is a mockery. no argument.
Also Prime Time players are 2nd in line

 

[dashing_man]

What's the story with dashing_boy? Why does he keep getting thrown out of the ring? I know previously was due to be under different guises but what's the exact reason lol. Unlucky customer!

Unlucky. I somehow come in btw during other ppls fight. They love me so much that they dont think even once dragging my name in it

 

[Slog]

Unlucky. I somehow come in btw during other ppls fight. They love me so much that they dont think even once dragging my name in it

Haha ok. Good to see you back

 

[dashing_man]

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] Daniel Bryan is ruined

 

[Slog]

I haven't watched wrestling (apart from off 5-10 mins) since 2006 or sth so it's always very weird for me to see CM Punk having become such a huge star winning championships and apparently dominating story lines. He was around in early to mid 2000 and hardly used to get matches in RAW/Smackdown either and was restricted to Heat type shows. He wasn't very inspirational or dominating personality either so very weird to see how big he has become.

John Cena was also just starting to come in his how but you always knew with him that he will go to the top?

How come Punk ended up getting so much traction?

 

[dashing_man]

I haven't watched wrestling (apart from off 5-10 mins) since 2006 or sth so it's always very weird for me to see CM Punk having become such a huge star winning championships and apparently dominating story lines. He was around in early to mid 2000 and hardly used to get matches in RAW/Smackdown either and was restricted to Heat type shows. He wasn't very inspirational or dominating personality either so very weird to see how big he has become.

John Cena was also just starting to come in his how but you always knew with him that he will go to the top?

How come Punk ended up getting so much traction?

Punk used to clean toilets around the Arenas. He was the best in the world doing that. Then he got an upgrade and became John Cena driver in his Wrestlemania 22 entrance
He didn't got any push until that ECW V WWE fiasco in 2006. Then in 2007 he joined RAW and then the road started for him there. He got two MITB victories which didn't get him anywhere. It was his heel character and sudden charge of the group Nexus which catapult him to the Top guys department. He got the longest Title run of this decade which cemented his place at the top guy but somehow his whining started because he thought he was being demoted by Vince/Hunter to mid carder
Later he chickened out and left giving lame excuses. He is now in UFC and just chickened out from his scheduled fight in December and postponed it to next year's December
Its very likely that he will chicken out yet again and come back running to WWE

 

[dashing_man]

Ronda wants to be the part of Divas Revolution = Recipe to kill off Sasha and Becky

http://www.rollingstone.com/sports/...revolution-i-want-to-be-a-part-of-it-20151102

 

[Adil_94]

I haven't watched wrestling (apart from off 5-10 mins) since 2006 or sth so it's always very weird for me to see CM Punk having become such a huge star winning championships and apparently dominating story lines. He was around in early to mid 2000 and hardly used to get matches in RAW/Smackdown either and was restricted to Heat type shows. He wasn't very inspirational or dominating personality either so very weird to see how big he has become.

John Cena was also just starting to come in his how but you always knew with him that he will go to the top?

How come Punk ended up getting so much traction?

Punk made his WWE debut in 2006 on ECW. Before that he was in OVW WWEs developmental territory. And before that he made his name as an Internet star in ROH along with the likes OF Daniel Bryan Samoa Joe etc. He was pretty lacklustre from 2006-2008 odd bright moments but didn't really jump out as a main event player. Had a MITB then a WHC run but didn't really get over with casual fans. T all changed in 2009 when he turned heel and had an epic feud with Jeff Hardy over the WHC. That was when he started getting praise and attention from mainstream fans. Then he developed a new gimmick of a cult leader forming the Straight Edge Society. Where he was a messianic Jesus style figure converting people to live the straight edge lifestyle. Had a very good run with that group. Albeit it was a mid card group. Went over to RAW became a leader of the new nexus which was ok but not as good as his work against Jeff hardy then as THE SES leader. It all changed for Punk in the summer of 2011 when he dropped the now infamous 'pipebomb' where he aired his grievances against the company and how he felt he was handled. Also his actual contract was expiring at the MITB PPV a few weeks after he dropped the pipebomb. That moment turned him into an overnight megastar. Like the Austin 3:16 kind of effect. He beat Cena for the WWE title at MITB and " left the company". Returned had a match at summerslam vs cena won but Kevin Nash attacked him and screwed him out if he title. He ends up winning the title at survivor series 2011 after a feud with HHH then becoming his tag team partner. he held the title until royal rumble 2013 cementing himself as a top guy. However he loses the title t the Rock at the Royal rumble. Who was a part timer. However he didn't get to main event mania during his time as champ. In 2012 he wrestled Y2J for the title but it was treated like an upper mid are match. Rock n Cena and HHH vs Taker were the main event which is fair enough. 2013 WWE went back to Rock Cena despite calling the match in 2012 once in a lifetime they proceeded to do it again 12 months later. While Punk wrestled Taker they stole the show. Punk loses takes a sabbatical. Comes back in mid 2013 as a good guy beats Jericho again. Punk feuds with heyman n lesnar. Loses vs lesnar at summerslam 2013. After that drops down into the mid card and does nothing that interesting until his abrupt departure the night after Royal rumble 2014.


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[dashing_man]

Punk made his WWE debut in 2006 on ECW. Before that he was in OVW WWEs developmental territory. And before that he made his name as an Internet star in ROH along with the likes OF Daniel Bryan Samoa Joe etc. He was pretty lacklustre from 2006-2008 odd bright moments but didn't really jump out as a main event player. Had a MITB then a WHC run but didn't really get over with casual fans. T all changed in 2009 when he turned heel and had an epic feud with Jeff Hardy over the WHC. That was when he started getting praise and attention from mainstream fans. Then he developed a new gimmick of a cult leader forming the Straight Edge Society. Where he was a messianic Jesus style figure converting people to live the straight edge lifestyle. Had a very good run with that group. Albeit it was a mid card group. Went over to RAW became a leader of the new nexus which was ok but not as good as his work against Jeff hardy then as THE SES leader. It all changed for Punk in the summer of 2011 when he dropped the now infamous 'pipebomb' where he aired his grievances against the company and how he felt he was handled. Also his actual contract was expiring at the MITB PPV a few weeks after he dropped the pipebomb. That moment turned him into an overnight megastar. Like the Austin 3:16 kind of effect. He beat Cena for the WWE title at MITB and " left the company". Returned had a match at summerslam vs cena won but Kevin Nash attacked him and screwed him out if he title. He ends up winning the title at survivor series 2011 after a feud with HHH then becoming his tag team partner. he held the title until royal rumble 2013 cementing himself as a top guy. However he loses the title t the Rock at the Royal rumble. Who was a part timer. However he didn't get to main event mania during his time as champ. In 2012 he wrestled Y2J for the title but it was treated like an upper mid are match. Rock n Cena and HHH vs Taker were the main event which is fair enough. 2013 WWE went back to Rock Cena despite calling the match in 2012 once in a lifetime they proceeded to do it again 12 months later. While Punk wrestled Taker they stole the show. Punk loses takes a sabbatical. Comes back in mid 2013 as a good guy beats Jericho again. Punk feuds with heyman n lesnar. Loses vs lesnar at summerslam 2013. After that drops down into the mid card and does nothing that interesting until his abrupt departure the night after Royal rumble 2014.


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Punk was never dropped to mid-card level. His mind was, in fact he thought he was a jobber. and no hi, no hello..I see the posts you made behind my back

 

[dashing_man]

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[MENTION=858]Amir[/MENTION] Champion and [MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION] Jobber

 

[Adil_94]

Punk was never dropped to mid-card level. His mind was, in fact he thought he was a jobber. and no hi, no hello..I see the posts you made behind my back

Bro I was joking we are a family on this thread. And bro that feud with axel ryback n heyman was pretty lame.


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[dashing_man]

Bro I was joking we are a family on this thread. And bro that feud with axel ryback n heyman was pretty lame.


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tu serious hogaya

and that feud was to push axel but creatives doing what they do messed it up. I don't get why Cesaro was in and out just like Axel from Heyman, that was pretty lame too

 

[Adil_94]

tu serious hogaya

and that feud was to push axel but creatives doing what they do messed it up. I don't get why Cesaro was in and out just like Axel from Heyman, that was pretty lame too

Creative can only book Cena and lesnar the rest is a lottery.


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[dashing_man]

Creative can only book Cena and lesnar the rest is a lottery.


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to some extent

PS: how is Ismaeel Taker ) came here posted the most important news and left ) )

 

[Adil_94]

to some extent

PS: how is Ismaeel Taker ) came here posted the most important news and left ) )

I thought Muhammad Ismail was another one of your personas.


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[dashing_man]

I thought Muhammad Ismail was another one of your personas.


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You also thought I was Undertaker. did you not see how intelligent he is )

 

[shaz619]

I haven't watched wrestling (apart from off 5-10 mins) since 2006 or sth so it's always very weird for me to see CM Punk having become such a huge star winning championships and apparently dominating story lines. He was around in early to mid 2000 and hardly used to get matches in RAW/Smackdown either and was restricted to Heat type shows. He wasn't very inspirational or dominating personality either so very weird to see how big he has become.

John Cena was also just starting to come in his how but you always knew with him that he will go to the top?

How come Punk ended up getting so much traction?

DM was basically banned for being retarded ) It's on record and Rizzy who was a mod at the time told me that; since then he has been banned for his lack of quality in his posts; you got to be posting some absolute rubbish to get banned for stuff which people get infractions for but DM was like the undisputed champion of displaying dopey behaviour and hence why we call him Eugene because he hasn't been able to change his ways despite posting from multiple accounts half of whom are banned but as you can see in this thread quiet a few are active ) but ssshhhh . Also, he's the last guy you want to get some perspective on the industry today lol should have tagged Markhor, Amir, Adil or me.

In the early 2000's Punk established himself as one of the best wrestlers on the independent circuit or the very least in the top 3 along with the likes of Daniel Bryan, AJ Styles and Samoa Joe; his work was highly rated in the respected promotion Ring of Honour not because he was such a good technical wrestler but also because of his ability to connect with the audience through his mic skills (very good at talking and was pretty charismatic).

Soon enough WWE came calling thanks to Paul Heyman (ECW booker) who had a very good eye for talent and creative vision, he was then sent to a WWE developmental territory called OVW and there things were very frustrating for him because here's a guy with all the tools yet the WWE had him on the same level of rookie wrestlers they were trying to bring up to speed (Guys like Cena came through this system); anyhow Paul Heyman had to bat for Punk again and before we knew it Heyman chose Punk as his first guy for the new ECW promotion which the WWE had started. From then on wards there were ups and downs; Punks career was going no where when he was portraying a baby face but then when they had him turn heel he truly flourished in his gimmick as a "straight edge saviour" a big part of why it was such a big success was because Punk was straight edge in real life to; no drugs or alcohol I think at times he doesn't even take paracetamol or other medication unless absolutely necessary lol He had a decent run as that character but ultimately was not given the chance to really be a main-eventer so he was planning on leaving the WWE when his contract expired but Vince was very keen not to let him go and then came the famous "summer of punk" angle where Punk cut that "Pipebomb" promo breaking character and developing into an anti-hero similar to Austin during the Attitude era. He was outspoken in that he truly believed in his ability because he was that damn good so never was shy from going out on a limb in order to get opourtunites which Punk felt he truly deserved and could do justice, Vince liked that and although he usually wouldn't promote a superstar with the look Punk has he did allow him to dominate storylines because punk proved himself in every chance he was given and at WWE Live events they'd offer refunds if Punk was advertised and all of a sudden they pull him out, furthermore he also became the top merch seller and his DVD documentary is amongst the best selling for the company in history.

However the WWE overworked him, took poor care of his health and began to bury his career on a creative level and in the end he was forced to leave; his biggest downfall is also that he's not an easy guy to work with and when he feels he's in the wrong you just can't reach a middle ground and things usually don't end well but as a performer he was always outstanding. Now he has signed with the UFC/MMA after becoming increasingly disgruntled with the WWE and those who had an agenda against him.

Personally I didn't think John Cena would grow to become the star he is today, was a big fan of his thugonomics character but his in-ring work was very poor. His biggest asset was his ability to talk on the microphone and charisma so when WWE turned PG they built their company around him plus he was Vince's dream, great look, great mic ability etc so we give him the push similar to the guys he favoured during the PG 80's era and Cena's in-ring work began to improve quiet a bit to. Cena would go onto become very popular with the young kids and female demograph and he'd turn out to become the top merch seller and ticket seller at various house shows, Cena was great as a performer but it was also down to the fact that WWE invested so much into him. However after a decade his character has not changed and hardcore fans have grown tired of his shtick and the WWE as a product has started to suffer because all those years ago they just put so much time into Cena and built their PG company around him; now they find themselves in a sticky situation where fans demand fresh content but WWE remain stubborn, TV ratings have been record low numbers.

 

[shaz619]

Punk made his WWE debut in 2006 on ECW. Before that he was in OVW WWEs developmental territory. And before that he made his name as an Internet star in ROH along with the likes OF Daniel Bryan Samoa Joe etc. He was pretty lacklustre from 2006-2008 odd bright moments but didn't really jump out as a main event player. Had a MITB then a WHC run but didn't really get over with casual fans. T all changed in 2009 when he turned heel and had an epic feud with Jeff Hardy over the WHC. That was when he started getting praise and attention from mainstream fans. Then he developed a new gimmick of a cult leader forming the Straight Edge Society. Where he was a messianic Jesus style figure converting people to live the straight edge lifestyle. Had a very good run with that group. Albeit it was a mid card group. Went over to RAW became a leader of the new nexus which was ok but not as good as his work against Jeff hardy then as THE SES leader. It all changed for Punk in the summer of 2011 when he dropped the now infamous 'pipebomb' where he aired his grievances against the company and how he felt he was handled. Also his actual contract was expiring at the MITB PPV a few weeks after he dropped the pipebomb. That moment turned him into an overnight megastar. Like the Austin 3:16 kind of effect. He beat Cena for the WWE title at MITB and " left the company". Returned had a match at summerslam vs cena won but Kevin Nash attacked him and screwed him out if he title. He ends up winning the title at survivor series 2011 after a feud with HHH then becoming his tag team partner. he held the title until royal rumble 2013 cementing himself as a top guy. However he loses the title t the Rock at the Royal rumble. Who was a part timer. However he didn't get to main event mania during his time as champ. In 2012 he wrestled Y2J for the title but it was treated like an upper mid are match. Rock n Cena and HHH vs Taker were the main event which is fair enough. 2013 WWE went back to Rock Cena despite calling the match in 2012 once in a lifetime they proceeded to do it again 12 months later. While Punk wrestled Taker they stole the show. Punk loses takes a sabbatical. Comes back in mid 2013 as a good guy beats Jericho again. Punk feuds with heyman n lesnar. Loses vs lesnar at summerslam 2013. After that drops down into the mid card and does nothing that interesting until his abrupt departure the night after Royal rumble 2014.


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) Sorry Adil I didn't see this post, wouldn't have posted the stuff I said in essence repeating all that you've said. Oh well a double Shovel Concirto E and C style on DM

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] do you follow the Trews? Russel Brand youtube channel, in his final episode he said he is leaving I think he was going on hiatus after being upset with the election result having voted for the first time but he believes in a revolution and is going to use this hiatus to learn more but he truly believes in power amongst the people. Few days ago a criptic video appeared on his youtube channel; not sure what is going to follow? I think he's joining the YES MOVEMENT! the real life version lmao imagine Bryan showed up on one of his videos and they both began to do a YES! chant, do it outside number 10 and try to get cameron to agree to their terms or they won't leave like how Bryan and his fans left Vince and HHH no choice in storyline and in real life )

Occupy number 10!

I still remember it like it was yesterday what made Bryan main-eventing Mania even more sweet were [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] tears, me and Teesra had a field year ) Aman was the authority and we buried him in the end, he would spend hours crying about Punk and how Bryan was x,y and z and in the end Bryan + his fans occupied RAW and then he would go on to claim the World Title; [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] would never be the same again (literally) stopped posting in this thread and turned on the very beliefs which define CM Punk. Bryans victory at mania 30 destroyed him on every level

 

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[MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION], [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] . Thanks for the informational posts.

Do you think WWE will ever reach the peak of early 2000 and earlier even?

One thing I notice is that WWE these days has almost nil penetration outside its core fanbase. Theres a lot of die hard wrestling fans who follow it still religiously and know what is going on but the fairweather/casual (whatever you wanna call it) fans like me who used to follow it sometimes and other times just know whats going on are totally losing touch. For eg I would have no clue about who is where and even the guys I know are mostly pre-2010 folk. Why is WWE failing to engage people outside its core fanbase? (Might just be experience of my friend circle so I might be wrong here.) An example is earlier even my friends or cousins who had absolutely NO interest in Wrestling would atleast know the main superstars and have a rough idea of the situation but now it might aswell not exist.

Do I have a fair reading of the situation that WWE is failing to attract new fans and engage people outside its core fan base? Maybe Im exaggerating

 

[dashing_man]

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] watch this

 

[Adil_94]

[MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] do you follow the Trews? Russel Brand youtube channel, in his final episode he said he is leaving I think he was going on hiatus after being upset with the election result having voted for the first time but he believes in a revolution and is going to use this hiatus to learn more but he truly believes in power amongst the people. Few days ago a criptic video appeared on his youtube channel; not sure what is going to follow? I think he's joining the YES MOVEMENT! the real life version lmao imagine Bryan showed up on one of his videos and they both began to do a YES! chant, do it outside number 10 and try to get cameron to agree to their terms or they won't leave like how Bryan and his fans left Vince and HHH no choice in storyline and in real life )

Occupy number 10!

I still remember it like it was yesterday what made Bryan main-eventing Mania even more sweet were [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] tears, me and Teesra had a field year ) Aman was the authority and we buried him in the end, he would spend hours crying about Punk and how Bryan was x,y and z and in the end Bryan + his fans occupied RAW and then he would go on to claim the World Title; [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] would never be the same again (literally) stopped posting in this thread and turned on the very beliefs which define CM Punk. Bryans victory at mania 30 destroyed him on every level

Bro i watched bits of rusell brand wouldnt say am a huge fan. Just casual. And i didnt view the thread in those days. Was it a worse burial than we give DM.

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[MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION], [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] . Thanks for the informational posts.

Do you think WWE will ever reach the peak of early 2000 and earlier even?

One thing I notice is that WWE these days has almost nil penetration outside its core fanbase. Theres a lot of die hard wrestling fans who follow it still religiously and know what is going on but the fairweather/casual (whatever you wanna call it) fans like me who used to follow it sometimes and other times just know whats going on are totally losing touch. For eg I would have no clue about who is where and even the guys I know are mostly pre-2010 folk. Why is WWE failing to engage people outside its core fanbase? (Might just be experience of my friend circle so I might be wrong here.) An example is earlier even my friends or cousins who had absolutely NO interest in Wrestling would atleast know the main superstars and have a rough idea of the situation but now it might aswell not exist.

Do I have a fair reading of the situation that WWE is failing to attract new fans and engage people outside its core fan base? Maybe Im exaggerating

Nope this is an absolutely accurate assessment and you're bang on! Many have put down the decline of WWE's popularity to the fact that times have changed and that pop culture is no longer a part of wrestling as it was during the boom period in the late 90's. While it is true that there will be peaks and troughs with any company you just don't lose the faith of your core fan base who only tune into see the big events like Wrestlemania. Slog the core fan-base in this era is the young kids and female; WWE also do not make it clear which audience they are trying to appeal to and this derails the quality of the product. They tend to make an effort when it comes to the big events knowing that the old school fans are going to tune in and they need to depend on them for a successful event but they are not able to maintain consistency throughout the year. I understand that they are PG now but that is no excuse for the inability of the creative writers and those in charge of storyline and character development. I think I elaborated on what is wrong earlier in this thread if I find that post will tag you in it.

 

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Bro i watched bits of rusell brand wouldnt say am a huge fan. Just casual. And i didnt view the thread in those days. Was it a worse burial than we give DM.

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Thing is Aman wasn't like Eugene he had some good views/eye for the product it was just that he was a huge fanboy of Punk, a Bryan Hater and he hated the WWE so much that he'd often rate TNA (past their peak when they started to decline) more then the WWE; these would get in the way of him being objective but generally was so much better and I enjoyed burying him, our discussions were fun in general beyond all the buried alived matches.

 

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[MENTION=858]Amir[/MENTION] [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION]

I have been watching wrestling since the Monday Night wars and tapes which go back to the 1970-1980 period, and every time I click on the TV to watch a wrestling show I hope for the best and plan to enjoy what I watch. It’s because I love wrestling that I tend to be hard on some shows, if you want to call it that. Let me explain further, when I got into wrestling, TV was booked episodically; the stories flowed from show to show like a daily soap opera, the champions and finishes were protected and the challengers won matches to ensure their credibility leading into their title matches. The tag team champions were important individuals, and protected and rarely even lost in single matches (and if they did it was to someone like the world champion).

The basics were a rule, not a suggestion; because making sure that things make sense and were carefully done were a necessity to survive, to draw a house and to make the money to stay on TV. I have watched companies thrive, be born, and also watched all too many companies die. But because I want things to make sense, because I want things to mean something and want the wrestling to be quality; some say that wrestling has passed me by. The business may have changed, but the basics are the basics for a reason, they work.

The only reason I wrote that was to make it clear as to where I am coming from. If something is good, I will call it good. If it is bad, I call it bad and that's not whining [MENTION=137419]dashing_man[/MENTION] with a little bit of sense your narrow mind should not be consumed by fanboyism but it is and it's not surprising you fail to address the poor ratings and god awful product; instead your curse fans who want the WWE to thrive and embrace what Vince feeds you. Raw has not been a good show for a very long time, in my opinion, and it is because they continue to go against basic booking (NOT FANTASY BOOKING or a 9/10 show [MENTION=137419]dashing_man[/MENTION]), basic booking that makes sense week in and out. It feels like they are still booking one week at a time to fill the three hours. So what if things don’t make sense, if they fill the time, they are happy. WWE has lost the consistency to book effective episodic TV, and they lost it a long time ago, and I doubt it will get better any time soon. The funny thing is WWE doesn’t want to be pigeonholed as a “wrestling product” because they want to be a “TV/Entertainment product”. But the thing that they forget is that at the heart of it, that is what wrestling is when done properly. And the real shame of it is that they have such a great roster and so many smart people behind the scenes that it shouldn’t be that way.

If a show like this one tonight is the “new wrestling” then it can pass me on by because this was a badly booked, completely uninspired show that wasted three hours. Watching wrestling shouldn’t be a hassle, I shouldn’t have to question why things do not make sense or why champions and challenger constantly lose. Bad booking, tons of filler and an end product that felt as if it was booked on the plane ride to Europe on a napkin is what I felt like we get these days.

The rights were minimal, the wrongs that are always there were always there, and the wrestling was generally forgettable and at times, completely uninspired. But you can’t blame the workers when they have 60-seconds and they know they are out there just to fill time. Wyatts losing again despite their new found momentum , Big E losing clean to Cancer, Kane in a main-event program in 2015 despite being booked like a glorified jobber, Rollins being made to look like a complete fool, filler, filler, filler; the show was a complete struggle to me like most and at the end of the night I didn’t think it was good, at all. This is how I’ve been feeling after every RAW for the past few years, a fan who has been following the WWE religiously through all the ups and downs and you have WWE marks like [MENTION=137419]dashing_man[/MENTION] complain why people are not interested anymore and complain when we're in a perfect position to speak the truth through our criticisms.

The company always has great weekends with Mania and the Raw after, they gain momentum only to lose it all and ratingz ultimately suffer when the talent on the main-roster is not utilized.

[MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] this was the post I was taking about, it was me reviewing a typical episode of RAW these days. It's a bit of everything really and it's hard to pin point just one reason why things are bad. The positive news is that Cena is on hiatus for some unknown reason and this has forced the WWE against their own will to give the fresh faces more oppourtunites to succeed (some very talented guys out there like Wyatt and Kevin Owens one is a dark character like Taker and the other someone similar to a stone cold. When you use to watch wrestling there were so many guys on top, you had Austin, Rock, Taker, Kane, Mankind, DX, Benoit, Chris Jericho, Kurt Angle etc all these guys were given chances to succeed, the company was not built around just one individual and on a creative level there was always flexibility and storyline/character progression.

 

[Adil_94]

[MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] this was the post I was taking about, it was me reviewing a typical episode of RAW these days. It's a bit of everything really and it's hard to pin point just one reason why things are bad. The positive news is that Cena is on hiatus for some unknown reason and this has forced the WWE against their own will to give the fresh faces more oppourtunites to succeed (some very talented guys out there like Wyatt and Kevin Owens one is a dark character like Taker and the other someone similar to a stone cold. When you use to watch wrestling there were so many guys on top, you had Austin, Rock, Taker, Kane, Mankind, DX, Benoit, Chris Jericho, Kurt Angle etc all these guys were given chances to succeed, the company was not built around just one individual and on a creative level there was always flexibility and storyline/character progression.

Bro I bought the 2K16 game a few days ago. Not worth it tbh.


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[dashing_man]

Bro I bought the 2K16 game a few days ago. Not worth it tbh.


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and its not even on PC

 

[Adil_94]

and its not even on PC

The showcase mode is too short n inconsistent. E.g the last match u do is Wrestlemania XIX Rock vs Austin. And as Austin u beat Rock. Complete b.s


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[dashing_man]

[MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] this was the post I was taking about, it was me reviewing a typical episode of RAW these days. It's a bit of everything really and it's hard to pin point just one reason why things are bad. The positive news is that Cena is on hiatus for some unknown reason and this has forced the WWE against their own will to give the fresh faces more oppourtunites to succeed (some very talented guys out there like Wyatt and Kevin Owens one is a dark character like Taker and the other someone similar to a stone cold. When you use to watch wrestling there were so many guys on top, you had Austin, Rock, Taker, Kane, Mankind, DX, Benoit, Chris Jericho, Kurt Angle etc all these guys were given chances to succeed, the company was not built around just one individual and on a creative level there was always flexibility and storyline/character progression.

did you watch RAW last night

every match had a story. Like it had a purpose behind it. I don't remember any RAW where all the matches had a purpose behind it. It was a very good RAW, felt like watching one of those from 2001

 

[dashing_man]

The showcase mode is too short n inconsistent. E.g the last match u do is Wrestlemania XIX Rock vs Austin. And as Austin u beat Rock. Complete b.s


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they still wont let Rock beat him

the season mode was the worst in 15. any improvements in 16 ?

 

[shaz619]

did you watch RAW last night

every match had a story. Like it had a purpose behind it. I don't remember any RAW where all the matches had a purpose behind it. It was a very good RAW, felt like watching one of those from 2001

No but RAW last week was good, I liked how they made the no.1 contender feel so important and it elevated seth as well because his championship was made to feel like a big deal. Not everyones a fan of Roman but it has to be said he is improving and it was good to see him earn his title shot in 2 great back to back matches, take my hat of to sir kofi to for making roman look strong very underated worker our kofi. The product is no where near what it was like 2001 or individual episodes lmao [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] Eugene with another brain fartt )

 

[shaz619]

Bro I bought the 2K16 game a few days ago. Not worth it tbh.


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I don't have the big time consoles. Am looking to invest in a N64 controller and adapter to play the emulator games on my laptop which also happens to have a really bad graphics card issue that hasn't been sorted.

The new game has some good reviews though around the net

 

[shaz619]

The showcase mode is too short n inconsistent. E.g the last match u do is Wrestlemania XIX Rock vs Austin. And as Austin u beat Rock. Complete b.s


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I heard the gameplay is amazing? like the in-ring action itself is the best?

 

[shaz619]

You jobbers chat you later, I got a maths exam tomorrow do dua I bury it. [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] did you know? on the way to my exam room I always listen to this:

 

[Adil_94]

they still wont let Rock beat him

the season mode was the worst in 15. any improvements in 16 ?

The 2k16 showcase is too short. They skip too many matches. It's an average game.


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[Adil_94]

I heard the gameplay is amazing? like the in-ring action itself is the best?

I have PS3 so there was no real difference from me. 2K have stopped putting effort in for the PS3 and Xbox 360. On next gens they have overhauled their system. But 2k16 showcase is mediocre


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[shaz619]

I have PS3 so there was no real difference from me. 2K have stopped putting effort in for the PS3 and Xbox 360. On next gens they have overhauled their system. But 2k16 showcase is mediocre


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You know when a next gen console is release, the games from a gen earlier the only thing they do is update the roster. It's only worth getting 2k16 if you have PS4 to get the full experience which ought to be so much better. I value gameplay more then anything because features can be added later, 2k15 had a good engine which they improved and added the features to with a showcase surrounding Stone Cold

 

[Adil_94]

You know when a next gen console is release, the games from a gen earlier the only thing they do is update the roster. It's only worth getting 2k16 if you have PS4 to get the full experience which ought to be so much better. I value gameplay more then anything because features can be added later, 2k15 had a good engine which they improved and added the features to with a showcase surrounding Stone Cold

It sucks that they don't have Angle. Would have made it so much better. They do backlash 01 two man power trip vs Kane n taker. Then skip all the way to vengeance 01 y2j vs Austin. Then to mania 19 Rockvs austin. Missed out on the Austin angle feud in 2001 which I enjoyed. And also there was no Armageddon HIAC. Don't even get to do HHH VS Mankid vs Austin summerslam 99.


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No but RAW last week was good, I liked how they made the no.1 contender feel so important and it elevated seth as well because his championship was made to feel like a big deal. Not everyones a fan of Roman but it has to be said he is improving and it was good to see him earn his title shot in 2 great back to back matches, take my hat of to sir kofi to for making roman look strong very underated worker our kofi. The product is no where near what it was like 2001 or individual episodes lmao [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] Eugene with another brain fartt )

i didn't said exactly

read my post again

I said it reminded me about those RAWs

 

[shaz619]

i didn't said exactly

read my post again

I said it reminded me about those RAWs

The fact that you said it reminds you is still bad it just goes to show that you don't really appreciate the RAW's in the 2001. You just feel the urge to glorify average stuff which isn't as bad as it normally is; proves how much you know about the product you jobber, go back to watching kiyun ki saas bi kabi bahoo thi ) Eugene's favourite show [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION]

 

[shaz619]

It sucks that they don't have Angle. Would have made it so much better. They do backlash 01 two man power trip vs Kane n taker. Then skip all the way to vengeance 01 y2j vs Austin. Then to mania 19 Rockvs austin. Missed out on the Austin angle feud in 2001 which I enjoyed. And also there was no Armageddon HIAC. Don't even get to do HHH VS Mankid vs Austin summerslam 99.


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They might have his move-set in create a wrestler. In the old WWE games, WWE use to have the move sets of the entire TNA roster lol well the main guys anyway like Samoa Joe, Styles etc I always use to edit Kurts Move set make one change where I add the ankle lock where he applies the sizzors to the legs on the ground instead of just applying the lock while he is on one knee

 

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[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION] [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION]

Ambrose turning on Reigns at SS. Yes or No ?

 

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Ambrose turning on Reigns at SS. Yes or No ?

Possible, would be great for ambroses career as well

 

[Adil_94]

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Ambrose turning on Reigns at SS. Yes or No ?

Hopefully yes. Anyone but you Roman :Wyatt

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[shaz619]

Hopefully yes. Anyone but you Roman :Wyatt

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Bray is a once in a life time talent; if they throw him in the main-event picture tomorrow he'd thrive; no issues with him being ready but it's all about whether or not the bookers and writers are ready. Also did you know his grandad is Blackjack Muligan, one of the best heels in the world during territory days just ask the nature boy WOOO! Bray continuing his legacy and is a bonafide 3rd generation mega star. What I would give to listen to J.R call his matches and put him over

 

[Adil_94]

Bray is a once in a life time talent; if they throw him in the main-event picture tomorrow he'd thrive; no issues with him being ready but it's all about whether or not the bookers and writers are ready. Also did you know his grandad is Blackjack Muligan, one of the best heels in the world during territory days just ask the nature boy WOOO! Bray continuing his legacy and is a bonafide 3rd generation mega star. What I would give to listen to J.R call his matches and put him over

Brays mic work is just amazing. If he was booked properly. It would be epic. I want him to get one clean win over Taker at least. And damn i miss JRs commentary. This monster weighing at 300 lbs from the University of Georgia where he played football. Just used to put people over like that. Its funny on 2K16 THey have lawler playing the wrestling expert commie. With all his background knowledge on wrestlers. His 2K16 Version better than real life lawler. Now we just have hashtags and follow us and download this.

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[shaz619]

Brays mic work is just amazing. If he was booked properly. It would be epic. I want him to get one clean win over Taker at least. And damn i miss JRs commentary. This monster weighing at 300 lbs from the University of Georgia where he played football. Just used to put people over like that. Its funny on 2K16 THey have lawler playing the wrestling expert commie. With all his background knowledge on wrestlers. His 2K16 Version better than real life lawler. Now we just have hashtags and follow us and download this.

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Bro in the last 15 years do you know anyone that has carried a feud entirely on the back of their mic work besides Paul Heyman? Bray did just that in his feud against Taker en-route to mania 31. Bray in any era is just a mega-star; if he had been bought up in the AE he'd be on the brink of Takers Legendary status. Bray is like the Mohammad Aamir to Wasim Akrams Undertaker. J.R always believed in what he said and that was made his work so special; he was responsible for signing guys like The Rock, Lesnar etc and really knew how to elevate talent. ) am not surprised, I know; the NXT commentary is pretty good though and I actually like Corey Graves but the thing is on the main-roster it's not easy for these guys to announce with mommy, daddy and grandpa barking in your head set every second "MAKE ROMAN LOOK STRONG! DAMMIT! "REMIND THEM COLE, WHO'S THE KING OF KINGS!" "YOU SHOULD ANNOUNCE ME AS THE MOST INSPIRATIONAL WOMAN SINCE MOTHER THERESA, I CURE BREAST CANCER COLE!" "WHAT A MANOEUVRE!!"

Corey graves would have to adjust and I'd give him a chance. Who I thoroughly enjoyed a few years ago was William Regal, dude he knows every hold in the book even unorthodox and his passion really comes across; really knows what to say and when, plus love how he got guys over in NXT by sharing his experiences in the ring with them etc

 

[shaz619]

Down with Eugene! Bury him! Bury him! Bury him!

Tensions escalate in the WWE thread as citizens demand that [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] reveal when they shall be using their shovel since it has turned into a part-timer, only appears on special occasions.
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] told reporters that in due course the shovel will make an appearance; we understand Eugene has risen once again but we also hold the power of the shovel, Eugene lives as long as we want him.

 

[Adil_94]

Bro in the last 15 years do you know anyone that has carried a feud entirely on the back of their mic work besides Paul Heyman? Bray did just that in his feud against Taker en-route to mania 31. Bray in any era is just a mega-star; if he had been bought up in the AE he'd be on the brink of Takers Legendary status. Bray is like the Mohammad Aamir to Wasim Akrams Undertaker. J.R always believed in what he said and that was made his work so special; he was responsible for signing guys like The Rock, Lesnar etc and really knew how to elevate talent. ) am not surprised, I know; the NXT commentary is pretty good though and I actually like Corey Graves but the thing is on the main-roster it's not easy for these guys to announce with mommy, daddy and grandpa barking in your head set every second "MAKE ROMAN LOOK STRONG! DAMMIT! "REMIND THEM COLE, WHO'S THE KING OF KINGS!" "YOU SHOULD ANNOUNCE ME AS THE MOST INSPIRATIONAL WOMAN SINCE MOTHER THERESA, I CURE BREAST CANCER COLE!" "WHAT A MANOEUVRE!!"

Corey graves would have to adjust and I'd give him a chance. Who I thoroughly enjoyed a few years ago was William Regal, dude he knows every hold in the book even unorthodox and his passion really comes across; really knows what to say and when, plus love how he got guys over in NXT by sharing his experiences in the ring with them etc

Bray is a definite once in a generation talent. And yeah man i really loved regal too. He focused on the craft in the ring and the wrestling. Way better than Lawler

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[shaz619]

Bray is a definite once in a generation talent. And yeah man i really loved regal too. He focused on the craft in the ring and the wrestling. Way better than Lawler

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I out wrestled shawn michaels with Regal on my PSP Smackdown 2006, It was a great match with HBK selling my offence for majority of the match. I took out shawns leg, then his back and finished up by having him blade after I sent him into the ring post twice. Then I made him tap out like a dog to the Regal Stretch! Take that HBK! not so much of a show stopper are ya! Lmao which HBK fan does that ) bah gawd can somebody stop the damn match, HBK gotta go to church tommorow shazzy Bear! stop it! While I had him in the submission I was screaming "One more match!" "Come Back!" The jobber never listened. Next time am going to throw him off a cell

 

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Hopefully yes. Anyone but you Roman :Wyatt

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Ufff that catch phrase, highlight of HIAC
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] I did a similar thing to HBK on Smackdown shut your mouth 2 but I was ruthless. I made a 3 on 1 handicap anywhere fall match ) me and my bros would cuss and beat the hell out of him. I remember shouting "Ab naach" which means dance now dance now ) ) I always hated his dancing entrance

 

[shaz619]

Ufff that catch phrase, highlight of HIAC
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] I did a similar thing to HBK on Smackdown shut your mouth 2 but I was ruthless. I made a 3 on 1 handicap anywhere fall match ) me and my bros would cuss and beat the hell out of him. I remember shouting "Ab naach" which means dance now dance now ) ) I always hated his dancing entrance

Stop chatting it you were Eugene and you faced HHH in a bra and panties match on here comes the pain )

 

[dashing_man]

Stop chatting it you were Eugene and you faced HHH in a bra and panties match on here comes the pain )

Eugene wasn't in Here comes the pain or Smackdown iirc

 

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Ambrose turning on Reigns at SS. Yes or No ?

It could very well be the case.

I can't see Reigns getting the belt at SS.

Ambrose screwing RR starting a feud between the 2 could be a route to go down.

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION]

when do you see Sheamus cashing in?

Personally - I have never been less interested in knowing when the briefcase will be cashed in and I don't want to see Sheamus getting the belt to be honest.

How about at SS Sheamus runs into the match and makes it a triple threat once both participants are beaten down (like Rollins did at Mania) however Rollins managing to pick up the win with a roll up on Sheamus. Roman's still looks strong and sets up the feud to continue at some stage & if Ambrose does turn on Roman, we can get Roman v Ambrose for a few months and Rollins v Roman can be picked up down the line.

 

[Red Devil]

It could very well be the case.

I can't see Reigns getting the belt at SS.

Ambrose screwing RR starting a feud between the 2 could be a route to go down.

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION]

when do you see Sheamus cashing in?

Personally - I have never been less interested in knowing when the briefcase will be cashed in and I don't want to see Sheamus getting the belt to be honest.

How about at SS Sheamus runs into the match and makes it a triple threat once both participants are beaten down (like Rollins did at Mania) however Rollins managing to pick up the win with a roll up on Sheamus. Roman's still looks strong and sets up the feud to continue at some stage & if Ambrose does turn on Roman, we can get Roman v Ambrose for a few months and Rollins v Roman can be picked up down the line.

These cash-ins are hard to predict man but yeah, it's possible he may cash it in at SS - chances are the finish of the main event is not going to be a clean one so he may have some role in that.

 

[Red Devil]

Down with Eugene! Bury him! Bury him! Bury him!

Tensions escalate in the WWE thread as citizens demand that [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] reveal when they shall be using their shovel since it has turned into a part-timer, only appears on special occasions.
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] told reporters that in due course the shovel will make an appearance; we understand Eugene has risen once again but we also hold the power of the shovel, Eugene lives as long as we want him.

Man, there are so many Eugene accounts here, I don't even know which one we're supposed to bury.

 

[shaz619]

Eugene wasn't in Here comes the pain or Smackdown iirc

) Obviously only you would know that because you tried to play Eugene but he wasn't in there so you created him in the create a wrestler mode before engaging in physical match with HHH

 

[shaz619]

It could very well be the case.

I can't see Reigns getting the belt at SS.

Ambrose screwing RR starting a feud between the 2 could be a route to go down.

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION]

when do you see Sheamus cashing in?

Personally - I have never been less interested in knowing when the briefcase will be cashed in and I don't want to see Sheamus getting the belt to be honest.

How about at SS Sheamus runs into the match and makes it a triple threat once both participants are beaten down (like Rollins did at Mania) however Rollins managing to pick up the win with a roll up on Sheamus. Roman's still looks strong and sets up the feud to continue at some stage & if Ambrose does turn on Roman, we can get Roman v Ambrose for a few months and Rollins v Roman can be picked up down the line.

I totally agree with you, it turned out to be a really bad move putting MITB on sheamus; I wish Bray Wyatt had won it he needed it so much more and honestly all of us would mark out if he cashed in and won with the help of his family. While the idea of having sheamus turn heel was correct; since then he has remained pretty one dimensional and he hasn't managed to connect with the audience unfortunately. What I hate most is that despite how much Roman has improved WWE have not been able to recover from the Screw Job in Philly and thus the reactions towards him remain mixed. It's sad that Roman will struggle to carve out his own identity when the crowd have accepted him as the next Cena due to WWE shoving him down our throats at a stage when he wasn't ready; now he's in better shape but a big part of the audience is not willing to accept him. A heel turn could solve things but theyve invested so much in Roman as a face that it's not worth it.

Ambrose and Seth may potentially turn in the future, I feel that the Sheild triple thread could happen in the main-event of mania and the turns will help provide some incredible storyline prospects.

That's the best solution agree with you, have sheamus cash-in and lose; how they get there am not bothered.

 

[dashing_man]

I totally agree with you, it turned out to be a really bad move putting MITB on sheamus; I wish Bray Wyatt had won it he needed it so much more and honestly all of us would mark out if he cashed in and won with the help of his family. While the idea of having sheamus turn heel was correct; since then he has remained pretty one dimensional and he hasn't managed to connect with the audience unfortunately. What I hate most is that despite how much Roman has improved WWE have not been able to recover from the Screw Job in Philly and thus the reactions towards him remain mixed. It's sad that Roman will struggle to carve out his own identity when the crowd have accepted him as the next Cena due to WWE shoving him down our throats at a stage when he wasn't ready; now he's in better shape but a big part of the audience is not willing to accept him. A heel turn could solve things but theyve invested so much in Roman as a face that it's not worth it.

Ambrose and Seth may potentially turn in the future, I feel that the Sheild triple thread could happen in the main-event of mania and the turns will help provide some incredible storyline prospects.

That's the best solution agree with you, have sheamus cash-in and lose; how they get there am not bothered.

Bray or Reigns both would have been ideal to win that case. But Reigns didn't win since he's not going with the easy way, thats why [MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION] love him so much, Honest life Honest Money :bow

Damn, imagine Bray with the case suddenly the lights dissrupt and Bray is in the ring BAAAH GAWWWD somebody start the damn match...ITS HAPPENING...WOOOOOOOOO!!

PS: I got goosebumps writing this