The Wrestling Discussion Thread

[QalandarFan]

It had been my dream match for so long and the match didn't disappoint one bit, while I was watching that I said to myself if they do this again it will be even better and now we get the rematch, Brock is in terrific condition, motivated and has immense respect for Styles so we can expect one hell of a fight and another MOTY candidate

Yep it's about to be a ****** Classic I'm sure of it!

 

[QalandarFan]

Brock Lesnar as Universal Champion again.

I don't think WWE cares about UC. The way the championship has been treated, it is safe to say that IC title is the main in WWE.

Atleast the top belt (WWE Championship) is on the best wrestler in the world!

Plus look on the bright side at least we get to see Brock vs AJ part 2!

 

[QalandarFan]

How hilarious was Shane McMahon winning the World Cup Tournament? I honestly died of laughter so I did not mind it one bit! ) Freaking Shane McMahon! ) The way he was celebrating after beating Dolph, killed me, as if just ran through everyone to win! SO Stupid yet so funny!!

 

[shaz619]

How hilarious was Shane McMahon winning the World Cup Tournament? I honestly died of laughter so I did not mind it one bit! ) Freaking Shane McMahon! ) The way he was celebrating after beating Dolph, killed me, as if just ran through everyone to win! SO Stupid yet so funny!!

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It was worth is just to see all the internet dweebs have a big meltdown lmao it was more of a house show like booking decision, if we were there live in attendance we'd be marking out to. It makes no sense but it created a huge buzz and will be used to build the SD v RAW rivalry at SS PPV this month, but yeah that was pretty hilarious he was playing it up like that because of the heat it would generate lmao

To Shane's credit, no one can pull of the stunts he has and in his career has hung in their with some of the greatest ever like Kurt Angle and more recently in a singles match vs AJ Styles at Wrestlemania not so long ago, I recall that being one of my favourite matches of the night

 

[Michael Chopra]

It was worth is just to see all the internet dweebs have a big meltdown lmao it was more of a house show like booking decision, if we were there live in attendance we'd be marking out to. It makes no sense but it created a huge buzz and will be used to build the SD v RAW rivalry at SS PPV this month, but yeah that was pretty hilarious he was playing it up like that because of the heat it would generate lmao

To Shane's credit, no one can pull of the stunts he has and in his career has hung in their with some of the greatest ever like Kurt Angle and more recently in a singles match vs AJ Styles at Wrestlemania not so long ago, I recall that being one of my favourite matches of the night

I have heard that they are trying to turn him heel because FOX wants a heel McMahon on the show once they move SDL there.

 

[shaz619]

I have heard that they are trying to turn him heel because FOX wants a heel McMahon on the show once they move SDL there.

Shane would be great as a heel, some of his best work as a character has been in that role. This move could play into that if true and build towards the SS PPV

 

[QalandarFan]

It was worth is just to see all the internet dweebs have a big meltdown lmao it was more of a house show like booking decision, if we were there live in attendance we'd be marking out to. It makes no sense but it created a huge buzz and will be used to build the SD v RAW rivalry at SS PPV this month, but yeah that was pretty hilarious he was playing it up like that because of the heat it would generate lmao

To Shane's credit, no one can pull of the stunts he has and in his career has hung in their with some of the greatest ever like Kurt Angle and more recently in a singles match vs AJ Styles at Wrestlemania not so long ago, I recall that being one of my favourite matches of the night

Apparently the point of this is to turn McMahon heel, can't say I am a fan of that but boy was that skit of Shane winning the Cup hilarious. That picture still cracks me up I just enjoyed it.

And yeah it really speaks volume about AJ's ability, having a match of the night with a man who has only wrestled like twice in the past 10 years and never been a wrestler. Just amazing, that match just went onto further entrench the fact that AJ Styles is the best wrestler in the world, not that I ever questioned that.

 

[QalandarFan]

I need to see these matches in WWE ASAP, bolded one's are my top dream matches right now, although I really like them all.

AJ Styles vs Seth Rollins
AJ Styles vs HBK (Then HBK should retire again)
AJ Styles vs Triple H (and give Triple H the retirement he deserves as well)
AJ Styles vs Undertaker (Also retire The Undertaker in the best possible match he can have at this stage)
AJ Styles vs Johnny Gargano
AJ Styles vs Tomasso Ciampa
AJ Styles vs Ricochet
AJ Styles vs Alesiter Black
AJ Styles vs Finn Balor (already seen it once but it was rushed and was still soo good)
AJ Styles vs EC3
AJ Styles vs Velveteen Dream
AJ Styles vs Bobby Roode
AJ Styles vs Lars Sullivan

And my personal favorite!

AJ Styles vs Adam Cole

 

[QalandarFan]

Man... watching AJ Styles vs. Samoa Joe vs. Christopher Daniels at Unbreakable 2005 never gets old watching right now even though I have seen it a million times and I can easily say my favorite wrestling match of all time. AJ Styles vs Nak at WK 10 is also up there for me with my fav matches of all time. JUst sad WWE couldn't let the two do their own thing, not in any of there matches were they truly allowed to express themselves, I feel if they gave the match at Mania like 15 more minutes it would have hit that high but can't change what is gone.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Seeing Shawn Michaels do the moonsault after all these years gave me chills.

He looks odd without the hair. I have got used to HHH without the hair but it’s hard to imagine heart break kid without the long hair. Not the same guy!

 

[Gabbar Singh]

21 years ago today.

 

[Bhaijaan]

21 years ago today.

Bret screwed Bret.

Vince was right all along.

 

[Proactive_]

The screwjob was the real end of Bret Hart's wrestling career. It's an absolute shame how WCW mishandled the greatest in ring performer of all time who was EASILY the most talked about wrestler in the world when he arrived at WCW. They could have don so so much with him and ended up doing nothing..

 

[Aman]

Hyped for AJ-Brock, here's hoping AJ goes over brother.

 

[shaz619]

I need to see these matches in WWE ASAP, bolded one's are my top dream matches right now, although I really like them all.

AJ Styles vs Seth Rollins
AJ Styles vs HBK (Then HBK should retire again)
AJ Styles vs Triple H (and give Triple H the retirement he deserves as well)
AJ Styles vs Undertaker (Also retire The Undertaker in the best possible match he can have at this stage)
AJ Styles vs Johnny Gargano
AJ Styles vs Tomasso Ciampa
AJ Styles vs Ricochet
AJ Styles vs Alesiter Black
AJ Styles vs Finn Balor (already seen it once but it was rushed and was still soo good)
AJ Styles vs EC3
AJ Styles vs Velveteen Dream
AJ Styles vs Bobby Roode
AJ Styles vs Lars Sullivan

And my personal favorite!

AJ Styles vs Adam Cole

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I don't get the hype with Adam Cole, find him very bland as a persona more of a poor mans CM Punk and in the ring am not impressed, so far all I have seen from him is look good doing high spots. Velveteen Dream is the real deal, I see so much potential in hims as an in-ring worker and character; Lars Sullivan is a freak of nature and very very good in and out of the ring.

Styles make fights (pun intended) and another to add in that list would be AJ vs Braun Strowman, it would one hell of a fight.

Speaking of Triple H lol he is the last person on this planet who deserves a big send off, I'd be delighted if his career came to a premature end. I will never forget all the careers he has ruined and is the biggest backstabbing politician in the history of our business, there is no level he wouldn't stoop to when it comes to his insecurity and ego. Speaking of the anniversary of Bret's montreal screw job, people forget it was HHH who made the suggestion to Vince with regards to the finish. So yeah screw Triple H and don't be fooled by his work in NXT either, the entire project has been to finally get that baby face heat from smarks he never received during his career, he's always using those guys to keep himself in the spotlight and in the end what we need to remember is that NXT should be a DEVELOPMENTAL territory, a number of the blokes down there should be in the main roster by now, the likes of Samoa Joe, Nakamura and Asuka should NEVER have spent so much time down there, HHH plays a big part in deciding who moves up and he tries his best to keep everyone down there as long as possible and I don't think that's a good thing for their careers unless they are very very inexperienced but as we have seen it's full of independent wrestlers that have travelled the world, a talent like Adam Cole could definitely benefit from staying down there a bit longer though or a Kenny Omega for example.

Styles / Taker is very appealing though and it's a match I've wanted to see for years, AJ should be given the responsibility of giving Taker the greatest send off possible, Shawn did for Ric at WM 24 and AJ can do the same for Taker. AJ is also now in this moment the biggest star in the company, he is a huge draw, an excellent character and never has a bad match. At this stage of his career Taker should be matched with guys in their prime, not friggin Triple H who made him feel like he is 500 years old given how terrible he is in the ring with his one dimensional pacing, limited in-ring ability and terrible ring generalship.

 

[shaz619]

Man... watching AJ Styles vs. Samoa Joe vs. Christopher Daniels at Unbreakable 2005 never gets old watching right now even though I have seen it a million times and I can easily say my favorite wrestling match of all time. AJ Styles vs Nak at WK 10 is also up there for me with my fav matches of all time. JUst sad WWE couldn't let the two do their own thing, not in any of there matches were they truly allowed to express themselves, I feel if they gave the match at Mania like 15 more minutes it would have hit that high but can't change what is gone.

Nak and AJ still had an amazing last man standing match, in WWE they need to pace themselves; in Japan you can go all out because then you have so much time to rest until the next show. In WWE you're working an intense schedule so they need to be careful, Nak / AJ was obviously a money feud and WWE prolonged it for as long as they could; but I do agree that perhaps they could have put in more during one of their singles encounters but still overall the blow off encounter delivered. That Triple Threat at Unbreakable 2005 is arguably the greatest ever, HBK / Benoit / HHH is up there to, hard for me to pick between the two although am going for the match at WM 20 because of how enthralling the feud was and had me really invested emotionally, and the ending would get even the strongest of folk when Eddie came out.

 

[shaz619]

21 years ago today.

Man he really fell off after that, had a stroke and what not; lost it mentally and physically he still had so much to offer and could have performed at high level well into his 40s. So many dream matches he could still have been involved in up until 2004/2005, wish he had the chance to wrestle Kurt Angle; could have been match of the century; that honour now belongs to HBK/Angle from WM 21 for me, incredible encounter, could watch it again and again.

 

[QalandarFan]

Nak and AJ still had an amazing last man standing match, in WWE they need to pace themselves; in Japan you can go all out because then you have so much time to rest until the next show. In WWE you're working an intense schedule so they need to be careful, Nak / AJ was obviously a money feud and WWE prolonged it for as long as they could; but I do agree that perhaps they could have put in more during one of their singles encounters but still overall the blow off encounter delivered. That Triple Threat at Unbreakable 2005 is arguably the greatest ever, HBK / Benoit / HHH is up there to, hard for me to pick between the two although am going for the match at WM 20 because of how enthralling the feud was and had me really invested emotionally, and the ending would get even the strongest of folk when Eddie came out.

Oh yes the Mania 20 Triple Threat was also great, but i would still pick the Unbreakable 2005 encouter easily my fav triple threat of all time, and up there as one my favorite wrestling matches of all time.

 

[shaz619]

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And then you had Hogan who snatched the WWE title of Bret after he had won it in one of his most special moments and celebrated as if he was the new world champion ahahahaha [MENTION=133315]Hitman[/MENTION]

 

[shaz619]

Oh yes the Mania 20 Triple Threat was also great, but i would still pick the Unbreakable 2005 encouter easily my fav triple threat of all time, and up there as one my favorite wrestling matches of all time.

Definitely, it's one of my favourites as well. Generally switch between those two as my favourite triple threats ever, you had Daniels, Joe and AJ at the top of their game and AJ was by far the no.1 high flyer at that time and P4P one of the best to because there were more layers to his bow which we would see once he transitioned beyond the X-Division, TNA unfortunately didn't give him enough respect.

 

[QalandarFan]

Definitely, it's one of my favourites as well. Generally switch between those two as my favourite triple threats ever, you had Daniels, Joe and AJ at the top of their game and AJ was by far the no.1 high flyer at that time and P4P one of the best to because there were more layers to his bow which we would see once he transitioned beyond the X-Division, TNA unfortunately didn't give him enough respect.

Yes very unfortuante, TNA had the potential to become so much more, but they made some serious blunders.

Why waste so much money on guys like Eric, and Hogan. They could have used that money to advertise and enhance their storylines. If that was not dumb enough whose bright idea was it to go head to head with WWE in 2010 during Wrestlmania season?!? Also I feel like TNA did not utilzie their top talents enough AJ, Joe and Daniels should have been the 3 faces of the brand. Yet they invested in part time stars who did not need to hold the TNA heavyweight title.

As for that triple threat match, AJ was the most insane high flyler the bussiness had seen upto that point in my opinion. The spring board shooting star press, the spiral tap, and my favorite the freaking FOSBURY FLOP! Shame he’s in his 40’s now and we never got to see those moves in WWE. But it still amazes me how he can still go at it like he’s in his 20’s, even after all those years in the X-divison. Usually guys like that burn out in there 40’s and move like senior citizens. Not AJ though, he’s still the best wrestler in the whole world in my opinion and can still hit those big moves like the 450.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Taker vs Rock vs Angle > HHH VS HBK vs Benoit

 

[shaz619]

Yes very unfortuante, TNA had the potential to become so much more, but they made some serious blunders.

Why waste so much money on guys like Eric, and Hogan. They could have used that money to advertise and enhance their storylines. If that was not dumb enough whose bright idea was it to go head to head with WWE in 2010 during Wrestlmania season?!? Also I feel like TNA did not utilzie their top talents enough AJ, Joe and Daniels should have been the 3 faces of the brand. Yet they invested in part time stars who did not need to hold the TNA heavyweight title.

As for that triple threat match, AJ was the most insane high flyler the bussiness had seen upto that point in my opinion. The spring board shooting star press, the spiral tap, and my favorite the freaking FOSBURY FLOP! Shame he’s in his 40’s now and we never got to see those moves in WWE. But it still amazes me how he can still go at it like he’s in his 20’s, even after all those years in the X-divison. Usually guys like that burn out in there 40’s and move like senior citizens. Not AJ though, he’s still the best wrestler in the whole world in my opinion and can still hit those big moves like the 450.

Speaking of 2010, AJ did have a great run with the company at that time and re-invented Flair's gimmick as a heel with the legend as is manager, that to me was his best stint with the company because they give him a big main event push, after that it just wasn't sustained. Am not sure but I think AJ was PWI's no.1 in that year and the only TNA wrestler to win that award.

At that time AJ definitely was the best high flyer and prime for prime can compare to the likes of Rey Mysterio and Jody Fleisch. Even back then when I use to watch him in NWA Wildside against Jerry Lyn you just got the feeling he was something special, Jim Ross tried to hire him back then but it wouldn't have worked out for him and his wife.

I think that in this era especially there is way too much emphasis on high spots and aerial attacks in general, am perfectly fine Styles not doing certain moves because he doesn't need them, there are so many layers to his bow that it doesn't do him justice when we just want to see a spiral tap or shooting star press because beyond those moves he is very sound technically, can brawl, can grasp in-ring psychology and his opponents weaknesses. Shawn was the master of just this and Styles is the only guy I've seen in the modern era who deserves a legit comparison. There are many styles in wrestling and while it's great to see certain high flying moves, I don't like over kill and prefer a story to be told in the ring, this unfortunately is missing these days and to me AJ is among a few guys who I love to watch. Believe you me there are many moves even at his age which he can still pull off, but in the WWE you need to pace yourself given the rigors of an intense schedule and focus more on in-ring generalship as well even though the style in general in today's era resembles video games and this can take out the legitimacy/realism at the top of the card especially.

AJ maybe in his 40s but if he wants can still compete at the elite level up until 45/46 if he likes, he's a smart worker and while you see him fly all over the place he understands how to take bumps and limit impact on his lower and upper back for example, little things like that can add years to your career just by landing on your side for example. Shawn was elite as well up until 46 when he retired, had arguably his greatest match ever a year before that at 45. But listening to his interviews it looks to me Styles could be ready to work a reduced schedule very soon or retire altogether, agree without a doubt the no.1 on the planet; one hell of a run as champion.

 

[QalandarFan]

Speaking of 2010, AJ did have a great run with the company at that time and re-invented Flair's gimmick as a heel with the legend as is manager, that to me was his best stint with the company because they give him a big main event push, after that it just wasn't sustained. Am not sure but I think AJ was PWI's no.1 in that year and the only TNA wrestler to win that award.

At that time AJ definitely was the best high flyer and prime for prime can compare to the likes of Rey Mysterio and Jody Fleisch. Even back then when I use to watch him in NWA Wildside against Jerry Lyn you just got the feeling he was something special, Jim Ross tried to hire him back then but it wouldn't have worked out for him and his wife.

I think that in this era especially there is way too much emphasis on high spots and aerial attacks in general, am perfectly fine Styles not doing certain moves because he doesn't need them, there are so many layers to his bow that it doesn't do him justice when we just want to see a spiral tap or shooting star press because beyond those moves he is very sound technically, can brawl, can grasp in-ring psychology and his opponents weaknesses. Shawn was the master of just this and Styles is the only guy I've seen in the modern era who deserves a legit comparison. There are many styles in wrestling and while it's great to see certain high flying moves, I don't like over kill and prefer a story to be told in the ring, this unfortunately is missing these days and to me AJ is among a few guys who I love to watch. Believe you me there are many moves even at his age which he can still pull off, but in the WWE you need to pace yourself given the rigors of an intense schedule and focus more on in-ring generalship as well even though the style in general in today's era resembles video games and this can take out the legitimacy/realism at the top of the card especially.

AJ maybe in his 40s but if he wants can still compete at the elite level up until 45/46 if he likes, he's a smart worker and while you see him fly all over the place he understands how to take bumps and limit impact on his lower and upper back for example, little things like that can add years to your career just by landing on your side for example. Shawn was elite as well up until 46 when he retired, had arguably his greatest match ever a year before that at 45. But listening to his interviews it looks to me Styles could be ready to work a reduced schedule very soon or retire altogether, agree without a doubt the no.1 on the planet; one hell of a run as champion.

It will be very sad the day AJ retires, hopefully it's not anytime soon. As for the high spots, I agree that they are over done these days. Take Ricochet vs Cole for example, it was a great match but honestly it could have toned down on those big moves. Talking about AJ it can't hurt to pull out a spiral tap every once in a while at Mania or SS. Yet, I do agree that he doesn't need these as he is the best wrestler in the world, but still it would be a nice to see that move at next years Mania as the ending of the match.

 

[QalandarFan]

Taker vs Rock vs Angle > HHH VS HBK vs Benoit

Oh boy since you said that I gotta give you my top 5 list of triple threat matches

5. AJ Styles vs. Jerry Lynn vs. Low Ki (TNA, 2002)

4. Brock Lesnar Vs. John Cena Vs. Seth Rollins (Royal Rumble 2015)

3. Kurt Angle vs. The Rock vs. The Undertaker (WWE Vengeance 2002)

2. Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit (WWE WrestleMania XX)

1. AJ Styles vs. Chris Daniels vs. Samoa Joe (TNA Unbreakable 2005) I am a huge AJ fan and been so for a while, and in opinion this is not just the greatest Triple Threat match ever but one of my favorite matches ever, period. The X-Division at the time was probably the greatest thing going for TNA, and it sure as hell proved that once again on this night. The match started in 6th gear at 100 miles an hour and never slowed down it was just perfect, and it's a match that I have seen over and over again and never get tired of.

 

[QalandarFan]

7 Days Away From Part II

 

[shaz619]

Oh boy since you said that I gotta give you my top 5 list of triple threat matches

5. AJ Styles vs. Jerry Lynn vs. Low Ki (TNA, 2002)

4. Brock Lesnar Vs. John Cena Vs. Seth Rollins (Royal Rumble 2015)

3. Kurt Angle vs. The Rock vs. The Undertaker (WWE Vengeance 2002)

2. Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit (WWE WrestleMania XX)

1. AJ Styles vs. Chris Daniels vs. Samoa Joe (TNA Unbreakable 2005) I am a huge AJ fan and been so for a while, and in opinion this is not just the greatest Triple Threat match ever but one of my favorite matches ever, period. The X-Division at the time was probably the greatest thing going for TNA, and it sure as hell proved that once again on this night. The match started in 6th gear at 100 miles an hour and never slowed down it was just perfect, and it's a match that I have seen over and over again and never get tired of.

Strangely I have 4 of your choices in my top 5 as well apart from Styles/Lynn/Low Ki, my 5th choice would be mike awesome vs masato tanaka vs taz with honourable mention going to styles / petey williams / chris sabin

 

[shaz619]

7 Days Away From Part II

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Incredible finish to RAW Becky Lync aka Stone-Cold / Ric Flair lit the show on fire the visual of her face covered in a crimson mask as she stalked Ronda was amazing, I think at this stage WWE have embraced her beeing a tweener; but boy is she over. I was expecting Styles to ambush Lesnar with a flying forearm but that didn't happen, we could get more build to that match on SD.

 

[shaz619]

It will be very sad the day AJ retires, hopefully it's not anytime soon. As for the high spots, I agree that they are over done these days. Take Ricochet vs Cole for example, it was a great match but honestly it could have toned down on those big moves. Talking about AJ it can't hurt to pull out a spiral tap every once in a while at Mania or SS. Yet, I do agree that he doesn't need these as he is the best wrestler in the world, but still it would be a nice to see that move at next years Mania as the ending of the match.

For special occasions it would be fine, he has excess muscle mass now so his centre of gravity has changed so he can perform the spiral tap from his final run in TNA but not the one from early 2000's, there's a chance he could pull it off but just too risky and not necessary in my opinion. Thing is am fine with excess high spots in the lower cards because that's what those positions on a PPV are designed for or a show like 205 live, at the top of a card you want to see more versatility, psychology and story. People don't even sell properly no more an take all the legitimacy out of wrestling with their theatrics and then complain when neutrals call it fake. But that's the current style right now and only reason Kenny is so over, but would he stand up in any other era? no chance, it's one of the weakest era's in terms of in-ring performances given what is demanded from the style in the ring.

 

[QalandarFan]

Incredible finish to RAW Becky Lync aka Stone-Cold / Ric Flair lit the show on fire the visual of her face covered in a crimson mask as she stalked Ronda was amazing, I think at this stage WWE have embraced her beeing a tweener; but boy is she over. I was expecting Styles to ambush Lesnar with a flying forearm but that didn't happen, we could get more build to that match on SD.

SMH AJ lost the FREAKING BELT!!!!! As much as I wanted to see Brock vs Bryan happen in the future, I was so pumped for AJ VS BROCK II. Not watching WWE anymore, first Roman has to leave then they take the belt of AJ. I'm done with WWE.

 

[QalandarFan]

Knew it from the moment Daniel Bryan came out tonight that he was going to win the title....

Ugh I freaking hate WWE for doing this, they could of had the Bryan/Brock match later man, smh. There's no point of doing that match right now with no build at all either. Plus Bryan/Brock won't be as good as AJ/Brock. AJ is a much better wrestler than Bryan. I never even liked Bryan to be honest, yes he is good but he's not my type. AJ is far more exciting and talented than Bryan, and there is a reason AJ has been 10x more successful than Bryan everywhere he has gone.

Not even a tough question for me as to who a better pro wrestler. AJ is easily the best all-round pro-wrestler since 2010 for me, truly a once in a lifetime performer.

 

[QalandarFan]

So what your gonna have the best wrestler in the world sit out of one of the big 4 ppv's? SMH, WWE has really become a comedic act in the past few weeks.

 

[QalandarFan]

Also how many heels are there in comparison to faces in WWE right now, it just crazy the amount of heel turns that have happened in the past few weeks/months.

 

[QalandarFan]

AJ should move back to New Japan, AJ is the only reason I am watching WWE these days, Becky's also been great but if AJ wasn't there doubt I'd watch. For the past 2/3 weeks WWE's booking has just been so AWFUL. Somebody should try to find out whether Vince Russo has came back as the head of the "creative", certainly looks like it watching WWE these days.

 

[QalandarFan]

Also horrible news that Becky got injured, Nia may have punched Becky that hard on purpose you never know, success breeds jealousy. I was so caught up in AJ losing the title I didn’t even care about Becky 3:16 getting injured. Hopefully it’s just a minor injury, and she’s back within a month. On the bright side Becky could now be the one to take on and defeat Ronda at WM!

 

[shaz619]

SMH AJ lost the FREAKING BELT!!!!! As much as I wanted to see Brock vs Bryan happen in the future, I was so pumped for AJ VS BROCK II. Not watching WWE anymore, first Roman has to leave then they take the belt of AJ. I'm done with WWE.

Over-reaction, our favourites can't reign till the end of time. AJ had an incredible championship reign, people expected him to be nothing more then a mid carder when he was signed but I knew so much better and especially those who look beyond the opinions of fickle smarks. We're very lucky to be witnessing the greatest in-ring performer of the modern era at the top of his game title or no title and that too in the no.1 wrestling company in the world. Shawn is my all time favourite and he only had a short reign with the world title in 2002 but that didn't stop me from tuning in or watching a genius go to work.

Knew it from the moment Daniel Bryan came out tonight that he was going to win the title....

Ugh I freaking hate WWE for doing this, they could of had the Bryan/Brock match later man, smh. There's no point of doing that match right now with no build at all either. Plus Bryan/Brock won't be as good as AJ/Brock. AJ is a much better wrestler than Bryan. I never even liked Bryan to be honest, yes he is good but he's not my type. AJ is far more exciting and talented than Bryan, and there is a reason AJ has been 10x more successful than Bryan everywhere he has gone.

Not even a tough question for me as to who a better pro wrestler. AJ is easily the best all-round pro-wrestler since 2010 for me, truly a once in a lifetime performer.

AJ Styles is incredible, I've never been short of complimenting his work but unless you're a casual fan or someone who doesn't really pay much attention to Bryans body of work he is one of the greatest wrestlers of all time and arguably the greatest technical wrestler of all time, and no, he has been successful every where he has toured be it North America, Europe or Japan as the American Dragon, alongside AJ Styles an Samoa Joe; he established the golden generation of independent wrestlers and his resume speaks for itself at ROH having memorable matches with the likes of Nigel Mcguiness, KENTA, Joe, Daniels, Styles, Low Ki and Morishma; the WON renamed the best technical wrestler award to the Bryan Danielson award (he won it across ROH/Dragon-Gate/Evolve/WWE from 05 to 2013 up until the retirement), Bryan at his peak actually won that award numerous time despite competing with a prime Chris Benoit for 2-3 years straight and the Wrestler of the 2000s Decade. He was a founding father of Ring of Honour, a promotion which has been an excellent haven for WWE talent and Bryan is by far their greatest star, a guy his size and being a technical maestro is not meant to thrive in a company like WWE but that's a stereotype when Benoit, Jericho and Bret all forged phenomenal careers, Bryan may not be as good at high spots like others but given his in-ring IQ he can adapt, this is why it's hardly surprising for me that he has excelled as an in-ring performer even in WWE, how can anyone doubt that even in the present watching him post-injury having these incredible matches with AJ Styles on TV ? Styles has great matches with everyone but not of such high quality every week on Smackdown and Bryan is a reason for that. Beyond the in-ring work he has excelled in world championship stints as a heel and face, the character work has been outstanding; this new run has great potential, I envision the american dragon persona being reinvented.

So what your gonna have the best wrestler in the world sit out of one of the big 4 ppv's? SMH, WWE has really become a comedic act in the past few weeks.

AJ Styles is a human being at the end of the day he doesn't have to work every single PPV, the card is still packed from the bottom to the top, they don't have to book him on the show as a performer but can use him in other capacities. WWE need plan beyond SS, Styles can interfere in the Lesnar match as well.

Also how many heels are there in comparison to faces in WWE right now, it just crazy the amount of heel turns that have happened in the past few weeks/months.

That I understand, but one of AJ or Bryan had to turn and it was a tough choice regardless. They have incredible chemistry and I am honoured that the two are going to be feuding at the main-event level.

AJ should move back to New Japan, AJ is the only reason I am watching WWE these days, Becky's also been great but if AJ wasn't there doubt I'd watch. For the past 2/3 weeks WWE's booking has just been so AWFUL. Somebody should try to find out whether Vince Russo has came back as the head of the "creative", certainly looks like it watching WWE these days.

New Japan are a god damn insult to wrestling, am glad AJ left that company; I do care for is health to, while NJPW don't have a tough schedule your risk of injury is a lot higher because everyone shoot with their strikes, they really can't comprehend basic wrestling fundamentals. WWE is not perfect but you get ups and downs, at their best no promotion can compete and there's more story and character development in general, if you're after pure high flying action and nothing else then NJPW is enjoyable but if you want more versatility then WWE is the best company. Legacy is more important which is why AJ should also remain in WWE, it's very easy to excel in Japan, Jericho was awarded a 5* rating over there despite being in his late 50s; WWE is the toughest territory and one which presents the ultimate test, this is why Nakamura jumped **** to; but not everyone has such courage.

Tbh the build to SS has largely been excellent, it's unfortunate that Becky is injured. The title change is premature however but I saw this coming, this is why I attended Smackdown last week and Joe / Bryan / Styles was advertised as the main event but for some reason it was changed and the title change was done this week. But am glad I got to see AJ in his final week as champion during the dark main event, SD attendance was quite poor and while this booking move is premature it creates a little buzz and freshens the scene on SD moving forward and am all for that but I agree the title change could have happened in different circumstances, however am equally excited for Bryan / Brock as I was for Styles / Brock and have no doubt the match will be fantastic.

People cuss Russo but he spearheaded the writing for the AE era which smarks worship overly, his creative wasn't so bad under the supervision of Vince especially.

Also horrible news that Becky got injured, Nia may have punched Becky that hard on purpose you never know, success breeds jealousy. I was so caught up in AJ losing the title I didn’t even care about Becky 3:16 getting injured. Hopefully it’s just a minor injury, and she’s back within a month. On the bright side Becky could now be the one to take on and defeat Ronda at WM!

I doubt Nia would have done something like that on purpose going by her personality, I've never read about any heat between the two either and accidents do happen in the ring. With that hot closing angle between Becky / Ronda surely the two have to face each other at WM!

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=141804]QalandarFan[/MENTION] I saw an Olympic Gold medalist and me hero get beaten to a pulp live, and while it upset me I can't criticise the decision and have to look for the positives in terms of the long term plan and see how it plays out. I know you're upset about Styles losing but after a while you will soon realise as a raslin fan to appreciate all the positives and how titles can not mean so much when we get to witness our favourites at the top of their game week in week out, Styles had one of the greatest championship runs ever on SD and continues to deliver in the ring and will do so until he retires. While Kurt lost, I still got to mark out when his theme hit; but he had his day and I just appreciate having witnessed the legend in action.

 

[shaz619]

Dreams do come true:

Those who have followed the careers of both men from the start will have nothing but immense respect for the elite skill levels and the journey they have had to go through to reach the top. It is surreal and a privilege to re-live all those beautiful moments and witness the two clash at the highest level.

 

[The Viper]

Heel Bryan could be interesting. He played it well during his early days in WWE and this will freshen up his character.

Becky vs Ronda though is the hottest feud at the moment. Shame what happened to Becky. Seriously Nia Jax needs to go back to developmental to work on her skills. This was not the first time she has injured some one.

It’s not safe and really if she wasn’t related to the Rock she would be getting more stick.

 

[QalandarFan]

Over-reaction, our favourites can't reign till the end of time. AJ had an incredible championship reign, people expected him to be nothing more then a mid carder when he was signed but I knew so much better and especially those who look beyond the opinions of fickle smarks. We're very lucky to be witnessing the greatest in-ring performer of the modern era at the top of his game title or no title and that too in the no.1 wrestling company in the world. Shawn is my all time favourite and he only had a short reign with the world title in 2002 but that didn't stop me from tuning in or watching a genius go to work.



AJ Styles is incredible, I've never been short of complimenting his work but unless you're a casual fan or someone who doesn't really pay much attention to Bryans body of work he is one of the greatest wrestlers of all time and arguably the greatest technical wrestler of all time, and no, he has been successful every where he has toured be it North America, Europe or Japan as the American Dragon, alongside AJ Styles an Samoa Joe; he established the golden generation of independent wrestlers and his resume speaks for itself at ROH having memorable matches with the likes of Nigel Mcguiness, KENTA, Joe, Daniels, Styles, Low Ki and Morishma; the WON renamed the best technical wrestler award to the Bryan Danielson award (he won it across ROH/Dragon-Gate/Evolve/WWE from 05 to 2013 up until the retirement), Bryan at his peak actually won that award numerous time despite competing with a prime Chris Benoit for 2-3 years straight and the Wrestler of the 2000s Decade. He was a founding father of Ring of Honour, a promotion which has been an excellent haven for WWE talent and Bryan is by far their greatest star, a guy his size and being a technical maestro is not meant to thrive in a company like WWE but that's a stereotype when Benoit, Jericho and Bret all forged phenomenal careers, Bryan may not be as good at high spots like others but given his in-ring IQ he can adapt, this is why it's hardly surprising for me that he has excelled as an in-ring performer even in WWE, how can anyone doubt that even in the present watching him post-injury having these incredible matches with AJ Styles on TV ? Styles has great matches with everyone but not of such high quality every week on Smackdown and Bryan is a reason for that. Beyond the in-ring work he has excelled in world championship stints as a heel and face, the character work has been outstanding; this new run has great potential, I envision the american dragon persona being reinvented.



AJ Styles is a human being at the end of the day he doesn't have to work every single PPV, the card is still packed from the bottom to the top, they don't have to book him on the show as a performer but can use him in other capacities. WWE need plan beyond SS, Styles can interfere in the Lesnar match as well.



That I understand, but one of AJ or Bryan had to turn and it was a tough choice regardless. They have incredible chemistry and I am honoured that the two are going to be feuding at the main-event level.



New Japan are a god damn insult to wrestling, am glad AJ left that company; I do care for is health to, while NJPW don't have a tough schedule your risk of injury is a lot higher because everyone shoot with their strikes, they really can't comprehend basic wrestling fundamentals. WWE is not perfect but you get ups and downs, at their best no promotion can compete and there's more story and character development in general, if you're after pure high flying action and nothing else then NJPW is enjoyable but if you want more versatility then WWE is the best company. Legacy is more important which is why AJ should also remain in WWE, it's very easy to excel in Japan, Jericho was awarded a 5* rating over there despite being in his late 50s; WWE is the toughest territory and one which presents the ultimate test, this is why Nakamura jumped **** to; but not everyone has such courage.

Tbh the build to SS has largely been excellent, it's unfortunate that Becky is injured. The title change is premature however but I saw this coming, this is why I attended Smackdown last week and Joe / Bryan / Styles was advertised as the main event but for some reason it was changed and the title change was done this week. But am glad I got to see AJ in his final week as champion during the dark main event, SD attendance was quite poor and while this booking move is premature it creates a little buzz and freshens the scene on SD moving forward and am all for that but I agree the title change could have happened in different circumstances, however am equally excited for Bryan / Brock as I was for Styles / Brock and have no doubt the match will be fantastic.

People cuss Russo but he spearheaded the writing for the AE era which smarks worship overly, his creative wasn't so bad under the supervision of Vince especially.



I doubt Nia would have done something like that on purpose going by her personality, I've never read about any heat between the two either and accidents do happen in the ring. With that hot closing angle between Becky / Ronda surely the two have to face each other at WM!

While usually I agree with you but nothing can convince me on this, and that is because this was probably the last time we'd ever get to see AJ in the ring with Brock, and also this is probably AJ's last run as WWE Champion therefore I wanted it to go till at least Royal Rumble, in fact in an ideal world I would have wanted it to end at Wrestlemania. Plus I never got to see Orton vs Styles feud for the belt that was one of my dream feuds when AJ came to WWE.

Yeah I'm a little butt hurt right now, but I a hope AJ has one more reign as WWE Champ before he retires. As for Bryan I have immense respect for his work, and yes he is a great technical wrestler, but overall I'm just not a fan of his, you can call me a casual fan or whatever but fact is I've seen numerous matches of Bryan's but I just do not find him appealing. Again that is just my opinion not saying anyone has to agree with it. AJ in my opinion is the second greatest all-round wrestler ever behind Shawn Michaels, (not seen to many of Flair's classic matches so can't say much about him) and so of course I will be upset when he loses.

 

[Aman]

Cool for Bryan, but I couldn't care less about him. I'm not a fan.

God if there wasn't any more reason to hate Daniel Bryan, there it is.

Screwed out of AJ-Brock II

 

[Aman]

So what your gonna have the best wrestler in the world sit out of one of the big 4 ppv's? SMH, WWE has really become a comedic act in the past few weeks.

I'm with you, I was so triggered by the loss. AJ really wanted this match and I felt he could beat Brock because they were building to it. I hope this is all a ploy with Brock ducking AJ and leads to AJ winning the rumble and challenging Brock, but I doubt it

 

[Aman]

Knew it from the moment Daniel Bryan came out tonight that he was going to win the title....

Ugh I freaking hate WWE for doing this, they could of had the Bryan/Brock match later man, smh. There's no point of doing that match right now with no build at all either. Plus Bryan/Brock won't be as good as AJ/Brock. AJ is a much better wrestler than Bryan. I never even liked Bryan to be honest, yes he is good but he's not my type. AJ is far more exciting and talented than Bryan, and there is a reason AJ has been 10x more successful than Bryan everywhere he has gone.

Not even a tough question for me as to who a better pro wrestler. AJ is easily the best all-round pro-wrestler since 2010 for me, truly a once in a lifetime performer.

I'm with you, technical wrestling is not my thing and he doesn't have the charm, charisma or intensity to sell it IMO. I liked Kurt and Benoit, but Bryan is just so boring to me. I'm not alone in thinking this.

 

[Aman]

AJ should move back to New Japan, AJ is the only reason I am watching WWE these days, Becky's also been great but if AJ wasn't there doubt I'd watch. For the past 2/3 weeks WWE's booking has just been so AWFUL. Somebody should try to find out whether Vince Russo has came back as the head of the "creative", certainly looks like it watching WWE these days.

Yeah, I've been wanting for AJ to go back NJPW too. Even with the title they were featuring Bryan, Charlotte and Becky above him.

Man, this loss hurts, I can't remember the last time a wrestling loss hurt like this

Days away from Brock again, AJ wanted that match so bad. It was a chance at redemption and that hairy hippy stole his title and match from him.

Yeah, I've been worked. But god dammit, screw Bryan. I hope Brock squashes him in 20 seconds.

 

[Aman]

This is the first PPV AJ wont have a match on since he debuted at the RR in 2016.....

Orton and Ambrose are also not on the card.

 

[QalandarFan]

I'm with you, I was so triggered by the loss. AJ really wanted this match and I felt he could beat Brock because they were building to it. I hope this is all a ploy with Brock ducking AJ and leads to AJ winning the rumble and challenging Brock, but I doubt it

Yeah I to doubt AJ will win the rumble hopefully I am proven wrong, but doesn’t seem likely.

 

[QalandarFan]

I'm with you, technical wrestling is not my thing and he doesn't have the charm, charisma or intensity to sell it IMO. I liked Kurt and Benoit, but Bryan is just so boring to me. I'm not alone in thinking this.

Same with me, it’s not that I don’t enjoy techinal wrestling I loved Bret Harr. Character and Presence is so important for me to like a wrestler along with in-ring ability. It’s why I am huge AJ fan his entrance and aura are just so cool, and I enjoy his matches. You could show an AJ match to anyone in the world even people who despise wrestling and they would be intrigued in wrestling afterwards. In my opinion the same can not be said about Bryan, he just does not posses that “cool” aspect which AJ has in my opinion. Even AJ’s attire is as cool as they get black hooded coat and the P1 gloves along with the sick wrestling tights. Just everything about AJ screams pro-wrestler and there is a reason why it was so much more easier for AJ to climb the ranks in WWE instantly in my opinion.

 

[QalandarFan]

This is the first PPV AJ wont have a match on since he debuted at the RR in 2016.....

Orton and Ambrose are also not on the card.

WWE’s booking has been really comedic since Roman left. I’m actually going to stop watching until at least the Royal Rumble.

 

[QalandarFan]

Yeah, I've been wanting for AJ to go back NJPW too. Even with the title they were featuring Bryan, Charlotte and Becky above him.

Man, this loss hurts, I can't remember the last time a wrestling loss hurt like this

Days away from Brock again, AJ wanted that match so bad. It was a chance at redemption and that hairy hippy stole his title and match from him.

Yeah, I've been worked. But god dammit, screw Bryan. I hope Brock squashes him in 20 seconds.

They just never let him shine with the title, I don’t know why. Like we could have gotten so much more out of that reign. You gotta let AJ be AJ. That’s the only way you should book a guy like AJ, he knows what he is freaking doing in the ring. Seeing AJ’s matches and WWE’s matches overall in the past year or so it seems that over-scripting is leaching into the matches as well.

I’d even take AJ on NXT then this atleast he’d be allowed to express himself and not hold back.

 

[Aman]

They just never let him shine with the title, I don’t know why. Like we could have gotten so much more out of that reign. You gotta let AJ be AJ. That’s the only way you should book a guy like AJ, he knows what he is freaking doing in the ring. Seeing AJ’s matches and WWE’s matches overall in the past year or so it seems that over-scripting is leaching into the matches as well.

I’d even take AJ on NXT then this atleast he’d be allowed to express himself and not hold back.

I agree 100 percent with everything you said. I've never liked Bryan and felt like he never looked like he belonged in a WWE ring. He looks out of place and like your average joe you'd see on the street, that's how he got over with people, he was like them small and average - he gave them hope and they lived through him. If you were to see him on the street you would never be able to guess he's a wrestler or athlete. I can understand it.

But I'm all about star power and super athletes like AJ and Brock. Even Roman is someone who has these traits. It's no surprise Cena, Roman, AJ and Brock are the company's 4 biggest stars who kids love.

 

[Aman]

WWE’s booking has been really comedic since Roman left. I’m actually going to stop watching until at least the Royal Rumble.

It really has, I cannot wait for Roman to get back to restore some normality.

 

[Aman]

Being rational, I can see why they did it. The shows were getting stale and needed a shake up, but I'm still filthy as an AJ mark.

If it was going to end like this Joe should have won months ago when he was on fire.

He knocked it out of the park every week and I was happy with him beating AJ.

 

[QalandarFan]

Being rational, I can see why they did it. The shows were getting stale and needed a shake up, but I'm still filthy as an AJ mark.

If it was going to end like this Joe should have won months ago when he was on fire.

He knocked it out of the park every week and I was happy with him beating AJ.

I agree Joe was way hotter around summerslam time would’ve been much happier to see Joe win it.

 

[shaz619]

While usually I agree with you but nothing can convince me on this, and that is because this was probably the last time we'd ever get to see AJ in the ring with Brock, and also this is probably AJ's last run as WWE Champion therefore I wanted it to go till at least Royal Rumble, in fact in an ideal world I would have wanted it to end at Wrestlemania. Plus I never got to see Orton vs Styles feud for the belt that was one of my dream feuds when AJ came to WWE.

Yeah I'm a little butt hurt right now, but I a hope AJ has one more reign as WWE Champ before he retires. As for Bryan I have immense respect for his work, and yes he is a great technical wrestler, but overall I'm just not a fan of his, you can call me a casual fan or whatever but fact is I've seen numerous matches of Bryan's but I just do not find him appealing. Again that is just my opinion not saying anyone has to agree with it. AJ in my opinion is the second greatest all-round wrestler ever behind Shawn Michaels, (not seen to many of Flair's classic matches so can't say much about him) and so of course I will be upset when he loses.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I was mostly speaking of the consensus in terms of POV from fan and industry expert, Bryan will go down as one of the greatest ever and his resume speaks for itself. In terms of style I understand that now more then ever there is a severe bias towards guys who are high flyers but it takes enthusiasts to truly appreciate Bryan's in ring genius but despite that he always manages to generate maximum heat from the crowd as a face or heel which is a testament to his special talent. But ignoring that I think that fans are extremely fickle, always whinge and will have something to complain about even when things are going well, Styles had one of the best reigns ever on SD and titles are not the be and end all especially once you've been to the top of the mountain, no one has booked Styles better then Vince so people need to give credit where due, we've been able to witness him in amazing runs as face/heel and his championship reign has included some very entertaining feuds and stellar matches, sure there are going to be some negatives here and there but as a Styles fan I can not complain and am excited for the future because the SD landscape is a lot more interesting.

People get too caught up in being marks and prevent themselves from enjoying the moment, many will regret this years from now because while their favourites were putting on master class in the ring they were too busy throwing a hissy fit about predetermined results, other posters in this thread especially not you but others who claim to be Styles fans especially are guilty of this and have not supported him though thick and thin whilst claiming he would be buried the moment he was signed for the company, no company has got more out of AJ Styles then WWE and people can cry, but North America is the ultimate territory and no on can tell me they would remotely watch another promotion on a weekly or even a monthly basis.

 

[shaz619]

I agree Joe was way hotter around summerslam time would’ve been much happier to see Joe win it.

Well this is the problem, morons boo faces and cheer heels; this Bryan win has ya"ll mad which justifies the heel turn and title win even more. I miss the good ol days when roles were clearly defined and fans didn't try to make the shows about themselves or disrespected the in-ring workers with their mentally deformed chants which take away from the match, mostly NJPW fans to be fair but you get the picture.

 

[shaz619]

That sell by AJ of the knee was the best I have seen, if there was one man he'd have loved to put on more then any other on the roster it would have to either of Bryan or Joe; what a match, I hope they are given more time during a main event PPV and I'd love to watch the two in an Iron Man match, it takes specific styles to pull off such a difficult match and those two certainly can.

 

[shaz619]

The AMERICAN DRAGON COMETH!

 

[Aman]

I hope Miz dethrones fake good guy Bryan at WM.

Meltzer and PWInsider are reporting Vince made the change because he didn't want AJ to lose to Brock at SS.

 

[QalandarFan]

Well this is the problem, morons boo faces and cheer heels; this Bryan win has ya"ll mad which justifies the heel turn and title win even more. I miss the good ol days when roles were clearly defined and fans didn't try to make the shows about themselves or disrespected the in-ring workers with their mentally deformed chants which take away from the match, mostly NJPW fans to be fair but you get the picture.

Hopefully Joe wins the title soon I would have even taken him winning this week imagine Joe vs Lesnar II without WWE protecting Lesnar this time around. It would be one hell of a fight the true defintion of two monsters colliding. Lesnar’s best feud probably came with Joe last year doing it this time and just letting the two titans go at it, would have been surreal. Even with WWE protecting Lesnar last year and having a short match, I still enjoyed the heck out of the match, imagine how good it would be without any restrictions. Regardless, the Brock/Bryan match will still be good and I’ll still watch it lol, but the match I am really looking forward to now is Shin vs Seth, although I think they will have Dean interrupt the match, and I do not mind that one bit because I am really loving heel Ambrose. With eveyone talking about Heel Becky I don’t think evryone has appreciated just how good this feud between Ambrose and Rollins is shaping up to be. i really hope they main event WM for the universal title.

 

[QalandarFan]

That sell by AJ of the knee was the best I have seen, if there was one man he'd have loved to put on more then any other on the roster it would have to either of Bryan or Joe; what a match, I hope they are given more time during a main event PPV and I'd love to watch the two in an Iron Man match, it takes specific styles to pull off such a difficult match and those two certainly can.

Yeah a 60 minute iron man match between the two for the title would be out of this world.

 

[QalandarFan]

Another wrestler who never got to WWE but I really wish he did was Christian Daniels! Man that guy was great unfortunate he never made it he was always my second fav non wwe wrestler behind AJ. The matches Daniels, AJ, and Joe put on both togehter and individually in the x-divison were stellar! Insanse how Daniels never won the Heavyweight Title.

 

[shaz619]

Hopefully Joe wins the title soon I would have even taken him winning this week imagine Joe vs Lesnar II without WWE protecting Lesnar this time around. It would be one hell of a fight the true defintion of two monsters colliding. Lesnar’s best feud probably came with Joe last year doing it this time and just letting the two titans go at it, would have been surreal. Even with WWE protecting Lesnar last year and having a short match, I still enjoyed the heck out of the match, imagine how good it would be without any restrictions. Regardless, the Brock/Bryan match will still be good and I’ll still watch it lol, but the match I am really looking forward to now is Shin vs Seth, although I think they will have Dean interrupt the match, and I do not mind that one bit because I am really loving heel Ambrose. With eveyone talking about Heel Becky I don’t think evryone has appreciated just how good this feud between Ambrose and Rollins is shaping up to be. i really hope they main event WM for the universal title.

Joe was definitely in contention and still remains in contention down the line, last week Bryan / Joe / Styles was meant to be the title match here in the UK but plans changed. Because of the audience in the current era there's a good chance we could see Bryan and Joe feud even though both are heels now, plus the back story sells the feud itself after all the epic rivalries which put ROH on the map. It's a great card, I look forward to Nak / Rollins to and Ronda / Charlotte is a match that had been tipped for main eventing a mania for so many years, classic SS match always delivers and on the under-card you have Ali and Murphy who are among the best high flyers in the world today. We've only scratched the surface with Dean Ambrose, he has done so well in his career despite being told to take on roles that are not natural to him, he loves being a heel and built his career in CZW as a sadistic psychopath, have always wanted to see him have a solo run as a bad guy and he will compliment Seth really well, I don't mind if they don't face each other for a title and this feud has so much heat that it doesn't need one although depending on the direction the company want to take in 2019 it could be important with Reigns out;

However with Styles being the most over face in the company right now I see him filling the void left by Reigns and being the top champion on RAW; so there's a chance he wins the Royal Rumble and the title at Mania. By then they either need to get the belt of Brock somehow whilst protecting him or have Styles beat him, I think that would be the smart thing and they can protect Brock during the match if they like, the win doesn't have to be clean.

 

[shaz619]

Another wrestler who never got to WWE but I really wish he did was Christian Daniels! Man that guy was great unfortunate he never made it he was always my second fav non wwe wrestler behind AJ. The matches Daniels, AJ, and Joe put on both togehter and individually in the x-divison were stellar! Insanse how Daniels never won the Heavyweight Title.

Remember Curry Man The guy was great in the ring and a great character to and could play pretty much anyone, the fallen angel was my favourite though. Am glad he finally became world champion in ROH

 

[QalandarFan]

Remember Curry Man The guy was great in the ring and a great character to and could play pretty much anyone, the fallen angel was my favourite though. Am glad he finally became world champion in ROH

Yes the fallen angel was incredible, and the way he helped shape TNA along with AJ and Joe was just incredible. Always wanted all of them to move to WWE two of them got there, I guess Daniels was meant for the indie circuit for life, jeez he was good, and no one deserves to be ROH Champion more than him right now. That Curry Man gimmick though ) almost forgot about that.

 

[shaz619]

Yes the fallen angel was incredible, and the way he helped shape TNA along with AJ and Joe was just incredible. Always wanted all of them to move to WWE two of them got there, I guess Daniels was meant for the indie circuit for life, jeez he was good, and no one deserves to be ROH Champion more than him right now. That Curry Man gimmick though ) almost forgot about that.

And the epic confrontations with shark boy lol and people have their views on some of the veterans on that show but any time Mick and Flair were on TV they created magic aha and Mick I think feuded with and put over Abyss, another under rated gem that is forgotten

 

[QalandarFan]

Another thing about this Sunday's Survivor Series is it will see the end of the 34 consecutive PPV appearances streak for AJ. That is just incredible for almost 3 years, since he has been signed with WWE not once has he got injured or missed a PPV event, he has been the real work horse of WWE in these past almost 3 years. He's held the WWE Championship twice for 511 days, and "BYGOD" has he deserved it. Just amazing how AJ can wrestle at such intensity and not get injured. I am sure that every other full time wrestler in that span has got injured at least once. I mean when was the last time AJ even got injured?? I believe he had some very minor back issues that kept him out for a like 3/4 weeks only in 2015 other than that I can not recall any such instances of AJ getting injured, not any major injury at least. Which if you think about it is really crazy, the moves he did for the first 15 odd years of his career would cause any other wrestler to look like they are senior citizens at this age. How you can do so many crazy high flying moves for such a long period and not get injured is seriously crazy. He just knows his body so well I guess, knows the in's and out's of every move and so therefore when he is doing the move there almost no possibility of injury.

Here's hoping he keeps going strong for at least another 5 years and keeps performing at this level and injuries stay away from him. But, boy has AJ deserved a break now. He has been performing non-stop for so many years now not just since he came to WWE but even before he came to WWE his work rate was immense.

 

[QalandarFan]

And the epic confrontations with shark boy lol and people have their views on some of the veterans on that show but any time Mick and Flair were on TV they created magic aha and Mick I think feuded with and put over Abyss, another under rated gem that is forgotten

I always loved the veterans on the show, really the star power and the young guys like Daniels, Joe, and AJ were the only reason I watched the show back then. I don't even remember the last time I watched TNA anymore. Really disappointing because I use to really enjoy the show, at one point in time.

 

[shaz619]

Another thing about this Sunday's Survivor Series is it will see the end of the 34 consecutive PPV appearances streak for AJ. That is just incredible for almost 3 years, since he has been signed with WWE not once has he got injured or missed a PPV event, he has been the real work horse of WWE in these past almost 3 years. He's held the WWE Championship twice for 511 days, and "BYGOD" has he deserved it. Just amazing how AJ can wrestle at such intensity and not get injured. I am sure that every other full time wrestler in that span has got injured at least once. I mean when was the last time AJ even got injured?? I believe he had some very minor back issues that kept him out for a like 3/4 weeks only in 2015 other than that I can not recall any such instances of AJ getting injured, not any major injury at least. Which if you think about it is really crazy, the moves he did for the first 15 odd years of his career would cause any other wrestler to look like they are senior citizens at this age. How you can do so many crazy high flying moves for such a long period and not get injured is seriously crazy. He just knows his body so well I guess, knows the in's and out's of every move and so therefore when he is doing the move there almost no possibility of injury.

Here's hoping he keeps going strong for at least another 5 years and keeps performing at this level and injuries stay away from him. But, boy has AJ deserved a break now. He has been performing non-stop for so many years now not just since he came to WWE but even before he came to WWE his work rate was immense.

Like I said immediately after his title loss, we can get greedy as fans but te guy is only human and could do with a break and I hadn't looked into these numbers; he has already gone above and beyond his contractual agreement and there is no off season in WWE. AJ also is always speaking of retirement so if we want to see him compete in the next 5 years then his work load needs to be reduced significantly. Speaking of injury, no need to worry unless there is some sort of freak accident god forbid due to another wrestler but AJ is an absolute profesional in the ring, he takes good care of himself and his opponent; next time you watch him have a look at how he takes bumps to limit the impact on his body and especially his lower and upper back, he tends absorb most of the punishment on the lower body, Shawn was a master of this which is why he was able to compete at a high high level well into his 40s, I think this aspect of a performer we tend to overlook very easily but it's one of the most important criteria, how safe you are as a performer and also longevity / consistency.

Before he joined the E, work-rate was immense but that was also due to the demands of X-Division or NJPW and what their fans look for; the E is the ultimate territory because you take the best of your experiences all around the world and put it together especially at the top of the card and have to show more ring-generalship like Bret for example who should be a role model for youngsters looking to get into the business, you don't have to kill yourself to get reaction, it's about execution and pacing; and as we know character work is exceptionally important, Rock / Hogan is a great example of this, they are no technicians and had a pretty decent match which turned into a 5* classic because they were able to get the audience to suspend their disbelief given how invested they were in the performers.

 

[shaz619]

I always loved the veterans on the show, really the star power and the young guys like Daniels, Joe, and AJ were the only reason I watched the show back then. I don't even remember the last time I watched TNA anymore. Really disappointing because I use to really enjoy the show, at one point in time.

Tbh I have watched bits and bobs of the show and over the last couple of shows have made immense improvements so give it a watch if you have the time. There is so much wrestling these days that I only follow WWE outside select shows which may be of interest to me. But need to watch a bit of TNA to, am a huge fan of Tessa Blanchard she is an elite performer.

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=141804]QalandarFan[/MENTION] I use to watch NXT weekly episodes when they were live when the Network was first set up, ever since they have been taped I stopped watching but always watch Takeover shows, I missed the last one so am watching as much as I can now before WarGames today to see what has been going on. Plus it's a saturday so I can stay up to see WarGames live! gone on the days now where I could stay up to see WWE PPV's live due to work but will see the replay on Monday of SS.

What are your preferred championship Wrestlemaia matches ?

Mine are:

Becky wins the Rumble to challenge Rousey for the title.

AJ wins the Rumble to challenge Brock for the title.

WWE Championship match: I would say Bryan vs Samoa Joe, but how do they turn Joe face ? there's Nakamura to but he is a heel to in addition to Almas. The role of these wrestlers may change heading into mania though so am cool with that. Otherwise the top faces are Hardy and Mysterio. Mizz is rumoured to be turning face and I wouldn't mind a match between him and Bryan, it would be a great build. So with this match am not sure what I'd like as there are so many avenues.

 

[QalandarFan]

[MENTION=141804]QalandarFan[/MENTION] I use to watch NXT weekly episodes when they were live when the Network was first set up, ever since they have been taped I stopped watching but always watch Takeover shows, I missed the last one so am watching as much as I can now before WarGames today to see what has been going on. Plus it's a saturday so I can stay up to see WarGames live! gone on the days now where I could stay up to see WWE PPV's live due to work but will see the replay on Monday of SS.

What are your preferred championship Wrestlemaia matches ?

Mine are:

Becky wins the Rumble to challenge Rousey for the title.

AJ wins the Rumble to challenge Brock for the title.

WWE Championship match: I would say Bryan vs Samoa Joe, but how do they turn Joe face ? there's Nakamura to but he is a heel to in addition to Almas. The role of these wrestlers may change heading into mania though so am cool with that. Otherwise the top faces are Hardy and Mysterio. Mizz is rumoured to be turning face and I wouldn't mind a match between him and Bryan, it would be a great build. So with this match am not sure what I'd like as there are so many avenues.

Same I only watch Takeover shows, mainly because they are on the weekends and I can't find time on weekdays to watch all that much wrestling. Looking forward to NXT TakeOver War Games tonight should be a hell of a show.

Speaking about the preferred championship matches at Mania mine would have to be:

Ronda Rousey (C) vs Becky Lynch (WWE Raw Womens Championship) Becky 3:16 to win the rumble and give Ronda her first loss in WWE! MAKE HER TAP BECKY!!!

Brock Lesnar (C) vs AJ Styles (Universal Championship) - AJ to win the rumble and challenge Brock for the title. Then beat Brock to claim the universal title!

Daniel Bryan (C) vs The Miz (WWE Championship) - Miz should win the title here, but it would be weird seeing The Miz as a face, lol his last face run didn't go to well, but he is much improved.

Charlotte Flair vs Bayley vs Sasha Banks (SD Live Womens Championship) - I know Sasha and Bayley are not on SD but hey this would be a great match so why not make it happen, we've seen crossover matches at Mania before so I would like to see this.

As for the mid card titles:

Seth Rollins vs Dean Ambrose in a No Holds Barred Match (Intercontinental Championship) - This could easily be the main event of WM if it was for the Universal Title however this could still be match of the night if it happens. It's still early days in this feud but I am loving it!

Shinsuke Nakamura vs Jeff Hardy vs Randy Orton vs Andrade Cien Almas vs Samoa Joe vs Rey Mysterio in a 6 Man Ladder Match (United States Championship) - A ladder match is always a great way to kick of Mania and I really missed the absence of a ladder match at Mania last year hopefully they do this at WM 35. I don't even care who's in it but man with those guys in the match, that would be a hell of a ladder match!

 

[QalandarFan]

Like I said immediately after his title loss, we can get greedy as fans but te guy is only human and could do with a break and I hadn't looked into these numbers; he has already gone above and beyond his contractual agreement and there is no off season in WWE. AJ also is always speaking of retirement so if we want to see him compete in the next 5 years then his work load needs to be reduced significantly. Speaking of injury, no need to worry unless there is some sort of freak accident god forbid due to another wrestler but AJ is an absolute profesional in the ring, he takes good care of himself and his opponent; next time you watch him have a look at how he takes bumps to limit the impact on his body and especially his lower and upper back, he tends absorb most of the punishment on the lower body, Shawn was a master of this which is why he was able to compete at a high high level well into his 40s, I think this aspect of a performer we tend to overlook very easily but it's one of the most important criteria, how safe you are as a performer and also longevity / consistency.

Before he joined the E, work-rate was immense but that was also due to the demands of X-Division or NJPW and what their fans look for; the E is the ultimate territory because you take the best of your experiences all around the world and put it together especially at the top of the card and have to show more ring-generalship like Bret for example who should be a role model for youngsters looking to get into the business, you don't have to kill yourself to get reaction, it's about execution and pacing; and as we know character work is exceptionally important, Rock / Hogan is a great example of this, they are no technicians and had a pretty decent match which turned into a 5* classic because they were able to get the audience to suspend their disbelief given how invested they were in the performers.

Rock/Hogan is so many peoples favortie WM match/moment of all time, it was a match unlike any other. The emotion, drama and anticipation heading into the match was off the charts.

 

[QalandarFan]

Tbh I have watched bits and bobs of the show and over the last couple of shows have made immense improvements so give it a watch if you have the time. There is so much wrestling these days that I only follow WWE outside select shows which may be of interest to me. But need to watch a bit of TNA to, am a huge fan of Tessa Blanchard she is an elite performer.

Guess I'll give it a try, I don't even know what they're roster looks like these days.

 

[QalandarFan]

[MENTION=141804]QalandarFan[/MENTION] I use to watch NXT weekly episodes when they were live when the Network was first set up, ever since they have been taped I stopped watching but always watch Takeover shows, I missed the last one so am watching as much as I can now before WarGames today to see what has been going on. Plus it's a saturday so I can stay up to see WarGames live! gone on the days now where I could stay up to see WWE PPV's live due to work but will see the replay on Monday of SS.

What are your preferred championship Wrestlemaia matches ?

Mine are:

Becky wins the Rumble to challenge Rousey for the title.

AJ wins the Rumble to challenge Brock for the title.

WWE Championship match: I would say Bryan vs Samoa Joe, but how do they turn Joe face ? there's Nakamura to but he is a heel to in addition to Almas. The role of these wrestlers may change heading into mania though so am cool with that. Otherwise the top faces are Hardy and Mysterio. Mizz is rumoured to be turning face and I wouldn't mind a match between him and Bryan, it would be a great build. So with this match am not sure what I'd like as there are so many avenues.

That's pretty unlucky, I get to watch all the PPV's no problem because they all end at 9 PM here except for WM which end at like 10 but other than that the PPV's start at 5/6 and end at 9 so it's a pretty good time.

 

[QalandarFan]

Looking forward to this 365 of AJ it's streaming following SS, and man after watching the little clip in there about AJ's body hurting now I really feel he needs some time off.

 

[gazza619]

Does anyone know where Kurt Angle is? He was one tough athlete and was hard to beat.

 

[shaz619]

Same I only watch Takeover shows, mainly because they are on the weekends and I can't find time on weekdays to watch all that much wrestling. Looking forward to NXT TakeOver War Games tonight should be a hell of a show.

Speaking about the preferred championship matches at Mania mine would have to be:

Ronda Rousey (C) vs Becky Lynch (WWE Raw Womens Championship) Becky 3:16 to win the rumble and give Ronda her first loss in WWE! MAKE HER TAP BECKY!!!

Brock Lesnar (C) vs AJ Styles (Universal Championship) - AJ to win the rumble and challenge Brock for the title. Then beat Brock to claim the universal title!

Daniel Bryan (C) vs The Miz (WWE Championship) - Miz should win the title here, but it would be weird seeing The Miz as a face, lol his last face run didn't go to well, but he is much improved.

Charlotte Flair vs Bayley vs Sasha Banks (SD Live Womens Championship) - I know Sasha and Bayley are not on SD but hey this would be a great match so why not make it happen, we've seen crossover matches at Mania before so I would like to see this.

As for the mid card titles:

Seth Rollins vs Dean Ambrose in a No Holds Barred Match (Intercontinental Championship) - This could easily be the main event of WM if it was for the Universal Title however this could still be match of the night if it happens. It's still early days in this feud but I am loving it!

Shinsuke Nakamura vs Jeff Hardy vs Randy Orton vs Andrade Cien Almas vs Samoa Joe vs Rey Mysterio in a 6 Man Ladder Match (United States Championship) - A ladder match is always a great way to kick of Mania and I really missed the absence of a ladder match at Mania last year hopefully they do this at WM 35. I don't even care who's in it but man with those guys in the match, that would be a hell of a ladder match!

Great card, Rollins/Ambrose has to be a given. If Styles is not facing Brock, I hope he gets to take on Taker in his final match. I know, Mizz previous face run didn't go so well, he has clout with hardcore fans to now who see the hard work he puts in and will make small tweaks to make his current persona work as a face, more experienced to and it could work, it's a crazy world but who'd have thought the two can potentially face in opposite roles!

 

[shaz619]

That's pretty unlucky, I get to watch all the PPV's no problem because they all end at 9 PM here except for WM which end at like 10 but other than that the PPV's start at 5/6 and end at 9 so it's a pretty good time.

Are you currently in Pak or Canada? that's an amazing time! which was why I didn't mind the saudi events because timing wise they were perfect for me aha, to be fair today it should be fine because Takeover has an early 12am start here in the UK and PPV is wrapped up by half 2, I don't like how main roster PPV's can be overly long at times

 

[shaz619]

Does anyone know where Kurt Angle is? He was one tough athlete and was hard to beat.

He is still with the company and I got to watch him wrestle live in the UK recently it was his first match on RAW in 20 years where a guy called Drew beat him with his own finishing moves, I think this is a story line to set up a fairy tale ending for Kurt at Mania, I believe he does have some gas left in the tank

 

[QalandarFan]

Are you currently in Pak or Canada? that's an amazing time! which was why I didn't mind the saudi events because timing wise they were perfect for me aha, to be fair today it should be fine because Takeover has an early 12am start here in the UK and PPV is wrapped up by half 2, I don't like how main roster PPV's can be overly long at times

I was born here in Canada, go to Pakistan to visit every 2 years or so though. Yeah the time is great if you live here in Alberta, 3 hour PPV's start at 6 and at 9 same thing with raw as well.

The Saudi Events aren't great for me as I they role out during the day at 11 am iirc.