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[MENTION=95766]leatherface58[/MENTION] thoughts on Styles / Brock what was your rating out of 5 ? and what you did you make of the main-event as well
It was incredible.

The psychology from start to finish and storytelling was so untypical of WWE.

The selling from both was 10000000000*, I legit thought AJ was gonna make him tap the way Brock was selling. The pop from that transition to the calf crusher would have been even bigger at 3-3.

But you know HHH and the McMahons, it's all about them.

No doubt in my mind they should have closed. At 3-3 at AJ coming back like that would have torn the roof off the place.
 
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I have zero interest in Angle/HHH it's not 2001 :facepalm:. Much rather see Angle face Roman Reigns, Cesaro, Russev or AJ Styles.
Angle is done man, it was depressing seeing him wrestle at SS. He's lost several step =\

This WM should be his last and I don't he'll get AJ anytime soon, AJ has said he's out in a few years. So WM 35 will be his last probably.
 
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] this was me 2 mins in

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Brock sold for AJ even backstage, he put him over huge and there will no doubt be a rematch next year.

Brock had no respect for AJ and didn't see him as a threat, he limped out with all the respect in the world for AJ. He kept looking back at AJ when he wouldn't look at him once (brushed him off like he was nothing and not on his level) before the match even started.
 
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] this was me 2 mins in

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Brock sold for AJ even backstage, he put him over huge and there will no doubt be a rematch next year.

Brock had no respect for AJ and didn't see him as a threat, he limped out with all the respect in the world for AJ. He kept looking back at AJ when he wouldn't look at him once (brushed him off like he was nothing and not on his level) before the match even started.

Your Japan bender buddies suck so bad at selling and wrestling psychology to the point these days that when someone sells properly everyone assumes they are injured lmao Brock is a lot like Andre the Giant, he can be a diva in the ring but if you earn his respect he will put you over in the most emphatic way possible and AJ made Brock look like a million bucks to. Incredible match and I am 100% sure they can have an even better match then that although this could have been a one and done. There were idiots saying AJ has lost a step blah blah, these guys don't know what they're watching and I"ll say the same with regards to Kurt because there is some gas left in the tank, when you're inactive for so long and get asked to work some random gimmick matches it's no way to judge someones ability to put on a decent match, he will kill it in a singles match at mania; needs to work more down the road to shake of a bit of rust like Batista did on the lead up to WM30.

Anyway, we're getting Styles/Nakamura at mania; there may or may not be a title on the line, if there is no title on the line them am guessing the other smackdown main event at mania will be Tinder Mahal v Cena for the WWE title. But don't really care because Styles/Nak is a bout that doesn't need a belt although it would be nice to see it as showpiece bout
 
Both Triple H and WWE Hall of Famer Kurt Angle were working while they were hurt for the main event tag team elimination match, featuring Team Raw vs. Team Smackdown, at Survivor Series last Sunday (Nov. 19). This might explain both men looking rather slow during their performances besides their advancing ages for their in-ring careers.

The report states that Triple H and Angle sustained some injuries during WWE’s recent European tour ahead of the Survivor Series, but they still went on to take part in the main event match. Angle also had his leg heavily taped up before the match. There are no other details on what type of injuries they were dealing with, other than that they were hurt from working the WWE house shows while in Europe.

Kurt Angle recently made his WWE in-ring return at TLC earlier this year.

https://411mania.com/wrestling/triple-h-angle-injured-survivor-series/
 
Kurt Angle is past it im afraid. He was too slow in the 5-5 match. Triple H though, the guy is vital to the WWE, he is the only person who knows how to add the epic element to the story lines. All of a sudden im starting to take an interest in a borefest such as the guy who is supposed to be kurt Angle's son.
 
Kurt Angle is past it im afraid. He was too slow in the 5-5 match. Triple H though, the guy is vital to the WWE, he is the only person who knows how to add the epic element to the story lines. All of a sudden im starting to take an interest in a borefest such as the guy who is supposed to be kurt Angle's son.

Nope, it's incredibly IGNORANT for anyone to even remotely suggest this. He was carrying an injury and since when are tag matches and cameos used as a metric to judge a wrestlers ability to put on a good match. None of you narrow minded fans who just follow a specific promotion have watched Angle against Lashley or Zack Sabre jnr just before he came to the E, in the space of such a short amount of time he become past it all of a sudden LOL IWC morons said the same about Batista when he returned to but when you're inactive for so long, ring rust is inevitable; things became more compatible the more shows he worked. Kurt is most certainly not the guy from 2005 but he's not a shadow just yet there is gas in the tank and soon enough you will have egg all over your faces just watch.

'Triple H though is vital' LOL vital to what? putting on snooze fests, sucking the life out of a match, having no grasp for modern wrestling, hogging the spotlight / getting others to massage his ego and as usual burying youngsters, taking their spot and making it all about himself. In 2017 HHH is the man to go over in an SS match lmao no one even remotely interested in anything HHH done in that match and the crowd only reacted when Braun killed him.
 
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Outstanding match between Reigns and Cesaro on RAW yesterday, the criticism he gets from smarks is criminal, his character has improved to over the years. But man, I can't remember the last time Reigns was in a disappointing match, always delivers and I look forward to watching him perform. He just keeps getting better and better.
 
Just saw jinder Vs ah styles clash of champions match... Best jinder match ever.

Stone cold on his podcast asked aj who is this phenomenal one. Aj replied he is the one who makes the match against anyone against anywhere looks phenomenal.
He is the Best in the world...
 
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION]

KANE in a World Title match in 2018. Bah Gawd what's happening here?!!!
 
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION]

KANE in a World Title match in 2018. Bah Gawd what's happening here?!!!

He and Brock use to ride together on the road, the two are good mates. Rumour has it Kane is the only one to beat Brock at arm wrestling. Strangely the two's paths have not collided during a feud? So there's some backstory here and it's a first. Kane is a great servant for the company, don't mind this and have enjoyed his monster feud with Braun. just not a fan of his PG mask wish it was the old one.
 
Man Ibushi managed to carry Cody to a match greater then 3.5* (I gave it a 3.75) big achievement in itself lol Ibushi is a star, my favourite high flyer since Rey.

See, NJPW proves once again that its a promotion based in a country with a distinct style and not as much restriction compared to the mainstream US promotiond, this is obvious but worth pointing out to those who were shocked by Jericho's performance in terms of his skil levels. However, if someone told me Jericho would maintain the pace he did for 35 minutes! And have the match he did at 47 I would have laughed at you, it was like watching a genius at work a master of his craft, he pulled out one of his greatest performances past his prime and proved why he's an all time great once again, just beautiful.

It was a good learning experience for Omega though, 5 mins into the match he went through a table then is up a few sec later :facepalm: , then no sells his knee and getting busted open his comebacks were too quick. The kid got a long way to go but outside those faults he held his own and credit where due.

Okada makes wrestling look so damn easy! It's like he doesn't even try, Naito proved his worth and is a great character, if they pulled the trigger on his title run I wouldn't have complained and the fans seemed to be hot for it. But it was a great match overall and it paced nicely.

I give the two main events about a 4.5
 
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Jericho is now among Ric Flair and Brock Lesnar to have main evented both Wrestlemania and WrestleKingdom
 
I cringed everytime Omega hit Y2J with those knee strikes, might have broken his teeth if not concussed him
 
Jericho's match at WK12 was easily the best of the night and Omega's career best, I enjoyed this more then Okada/Omega last year. Take a bow Y2J :bow:
 
Jericho's match at WK12 was easily the best of the night and Omega's career best, I enjoyed this more then Okada/Omega last year. Take a bow Y2J :bow:

Was a great match, if only WWE would give this kind of freedom to it's talent. Jericho for instance should have stole the show at WM 32 and 33 against 2 extremely talented performers in AJ and KO.
 
Looking forward to the royal rumble at this point hoping for two things. One, AJ Styles retains the WWE Championship. Two, Nakamura wins the Royal Rumble setting up a dream match between the two. I am dying to see these guys face after their epic encounter at WK 10. If it happens I can I hope it is better than the WK 10 match. Also this match has to be the last on the card if it happens.

Who do you think/want to win the Rumble [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] ?
 
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Was a great match, if only WWE would give this kind of freedom to it's talent. Jericho for instance should have stole the show at WM 32 and 33 against 2 extremely talented performers in AJ and KO.

Btw how in the world does a handicap match for the WWE Championship work?

Looking forward to the royal rumble at this point hoping for two things. One, AJ Styles retains the WWE Championship. Two, Nakamura wins the Royal Rumble setting up a dream match between the two. I am dying to see these guys face after their epic encounter at WK 10. If it happens I can I hope it is better than the WK 10 match. Also this match has to be the last on the card if it happens.

Who do you think/want to win the Rumble [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] ?

Thing is the WWE is a completely different beast and stylistically distinct to Japan given their American viewers, also imagine WWE allowed its wrestlers to go all out constantly? they'd get injured very easily and when you look at their gruelling schedule they need to pace themselves and not take too many stupid risks, I cringed every time Omega hit Jericho with those knees. These guys in Japan are given the license to go all out and then after Wrestlekingdom take a long break to heal before the next big event, but despite this WWE does give its stars freedom within the American style in the ring and beyond their excellent TV matches wrestlers tend to shine especially during big 4 PPV's. Also WWE are strategic in how they want you to work a match, Shane/AJ last year was the opener and they went all out to get the crowd buzzing, the year before Jericho/AJ were instructed to bring the crowd down because it was a 6 or 7 hour show I think, so there are a lot of factors.

Towards the top end of the card expectations understandably should be high and from matches involving stars we genuinely expect a classic; but despite this the talent doesn't always deliver, at the end of the day no matter what you're asked to do it's your job to do that job to the best of your ability and the crowd may not be invested every time. That triple threat involving Jericho, KO and AJ was also excellent as well, Jericho is no where near as slow as some so called experts were saying and the same people criticising Kurt are in for a rude awakening.

And I think in the handicap match it depends, it could be under traditional tag rules where only 2 people can be in the ring or tornado rules where both KO and Sami are in the ring with AJ, so whoever scores the pinball between KO and Sami would become champion for example.

Reigns is obviously confirmed to face Lesnar so he's a choice for the Rumble as well but he doesn't really need the win as much as Nakamura who is likely to face AJ who may or may not be champ by the time mania comes around but common sense suggests he will.

Am not as hyped as I've been in the past for the Rumble PPV, back in the day the hottest guy would win and there'd be a compelling angle behind him and while Nak has not been booked terribly I feel like he could certainly be used better, like if he were to fail I wouldn't be too disappointed because there's not a lot of momentum behind him you know what I mean.

And I know he will probably face Cena but my choice to win the Rumble is the Undertaker! now he's a big star with a compelling story behind him, the old gun slinger who everyone keeps writing off returns this time 100% healthy unlike when he fought Roman with a Hip injury (delayed surgery until after the PPV), he eliminates Reigns gaining his revenge and destroys everyone else, looks to be in good shape and is moving well. Triumphs in the Rumble to set up a huge super fight and dream match with AJ Styles who gives him the send off he deserves. Taker truly is the deadman, he can go from looking like he needs to retire asap to someone who still got another 3 years left but he's my personal choice even though I know he won't win but I think him just wrestling AJ at mania would also give the phenomenal one a big rub
 
Btw how in the world does a handicap match for the WWE Championship work?

It's an interesting concept lol especially considering the characters in the match.. it'll be a standard handicap match with tags I think.. so essentially a triple threat match but Kevin owens and zayn are assumed to not wrestle eachother.

Looking forward to the royal rumble at this point hoping for two things. One, AJ Styles retains the WWE Championship. Two, Nakamura wins the Royal Rumble setting up a dream match between the two. I am dying to see these guys face after their epic encounter at WK 10. If it happens I can I hope it is better than the WK 10 match. Also this match has to be the last on the card if it happens.

I'd rather see Kevin or sami beat AJ for the title, and the remaining partner winning the royal rumble later that night to see Kevin vs Sami for the title at WM. I actually am not sure who will win the RR this year which is good, and I'm hoping to be surprised with some returns.
 
[MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] Prince Puma finally signs with WWE, it had been in the works for a while once his contract with Lucha Underground expired
 
First ever women’s royal rumble.

Ronda rousey rumoured to be launched during RR.. Possibly she wins to set up a title shot at wrestle mania with flair’s daughter.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Stephanie McMahon trolls everyone and wins the Royal rumble herself..
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION]

Who do you guys think will win?
 
Saw RAW 25. I think it was the first RAW episode I've seen in it's entirety in about three years.. and it's further reinforced my belief that WWE can't book for sh*t in this day and age.

You got a guy like STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN, one of the icons of the business and one of the best talkers ever and you give him a grand total of 0 seconds of mic time.

You got Mean Gene freakin' Okerlund and have him interview a goof in AJ Styles of all people. Why not use someone who can actually talk worth a crap? The fact that this guy is holding the same title now that Stone Cold Steve Austin did epitomizes how much down the drain WWE has went.

Did nothing with almost all the legends present.

Cringeworthy segment with the DX and that little club.

The IC title match was ok but nothing special.

The Top title segment was decent.

Overall a garbage show for such a monumental episode.
 
Saw RAW 25. I think it was the first RAW episode I've seen in it's entirety in about three years.. and it's further reinforced my belief that WWE can't book for sh*t in this day and age.

You got a guy like STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN, one of the icons of the business and one of the best talkers ever and you give him a grand total of 0 seconds of mic time.

You got Mean Gene freakin' Okerlund and have him interview a goof in AJ Styles of all people. Why not use someone who can actually talk worth a crap? The fact that this guy is holding the same title now that Stone Cold Steve Austin did epitomizes how much down the drain WWE has went.

Did nothing with almost all the legends present.

Cringeworthy segment with the DX and that little club.

The IC title match was ok but nothing special.

The Top title segment was decent.

Overall a garbage show for such a monumental episode.


No old timers will enjoy today’s product if they compare with the old days.. Just enjoy some segments and matches which are good ones.. Braun Strowman is a good thing going on right now and his feud with Brock is excellent..

Similarly the GOAT “Maharaja Jindal Mahal Ji” segments are good if you watch with a bias view..

Overall bringing in old legends for one night is no fun for me never was never will be.. Fun is when someone comes back for a match like Goldberg did or Rock initially did.. On DD sport they show ROH I am quiet enjoying some of the programs over there.. You should give it a try, small arena so crowd is always behind the matches..
 
No old timers will enjoy today’s product if they compare with the old days.. Just enjoy some segments and matches which are good ones.. Braun Strowman is a good thing going on right now and his feud with Brock is excellent..

Similarly the GOAT “Maharaja Jindal Mahal Ji” segments are good if you watch with a bias view..

Overall bringing in old legends for one night is no fun for me never was never will be.. Fun is when someone comes back for a match like Goldberg did or Rock initially did.. On DD sport they show ROH I am quiet enjoying some of the programs over there.. You should give it a try, small arena so crowd is always behind the matches..

Yeah, I've been pretty much Youtube'ing my way through the product for years now. Rarely I'd tune in on TV if something interesting is there to look forward to or a special episode like RAW 25 but more often than not I'm left disappointed. Sadly because WWE wasn't like this even as recently as 2008-09. Now, they're hell bent on hiring all these 30 minute marathon guys and killing off characters and mic skills altogether. What a shame.
 
First ever women’s royal rumble.

Ronda rousey rumoured to be launched during RR.. Possibly she wins to set up a title shot at wrestle mania with flair’s daughter.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Stephanie McMahon trolls everyone and wins the Royal rumble herself..
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION]

Who do you guys think will win?

Ronda vs Stephanie
 
Yeah, I've been pretty much Youtube'ing my way through the product for years now. Rarely I'd tune in on TV if something interesting is there to look forward to or a special episode like RAW 25 but more often than not I'm left disappointed. Sadly because WWE wasn't like this even as recently as 2008-09. Now, they're hell bent on hiring all these 30 minute marathon guys and killing off characters and mic skills altogether. What a shame.


They are catering to the next generation fans, kids who buy merchandise, running for senate so they have to maintain this PG non sense..

I do the same I browse through YouTube as well don’t watch it on TV..

Only thing I watch on TV is UFC these days.. It’s really enjoyable and they don’t need anyone to hold their tongue.. So trash talking is full on.. Way better than current wrestling imo..

I haven’t watched raw 25 but seeing your reaction seems like I won’t be scrolling through YouTube also for that.. Will definitely watch RR match though the format is something fresh (happens once a year) and the Brock-Braun-Kane match should be fun..
 
First ever women’s royal rumble.

Ronda rousey rumoured to be launched during RR.. Possibly she wins to set up a title shot at wrestle mania with flair’s daughter.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Stephanie McMahon trolls everyone and wins the Royal rumble herself..
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION]

Who do you guys think will win?

Good shout lol it could be stephanie without a doubt, everyone is expecting Ronda so WWE tend to swerve the fans Russo style. Plus the two have history from WM 31, they could be building to Ronda/Steph, but Asuka is another prospect and has been undefeated for like 2-3 years so she could be someone who matches up to Ronda even though it's all kayfabe.
 
That would be an epic troll, book it vince!!!!

Do you see Ronda succeeding in WWE? Or do you see her as losing her popularity once he initial few months are over?

Ronda will thrive as much as Lesnar did in the aftermath of ending the streak he was used exceptionally well, Ronda is a huge draw; she is the reason why women are getting pushed in combat sports all over the world and also the WWE so it's premature to think that she'd lose her popularity. Vince even in his old age is the master promoter, he understands the current market quiet well and what it demands which is why the company is thriving more then ever before to the point where he even invests in product's beyond the wrestling like movies and more recently a reboot of the XFL basically the plan is to make it american football's version of the IPL, obviously things could always be better but he knows what he's doing unlike some other moronic pillocks who think they are students of the game based on drooling over roid monsters in the 90s, it's funny because Austin himself happens to be Styles biggest fan; what's an insult to the championship is not being able to last more then a couple of minutes in the ring, that's what the title's lineage was built on in the first place, in-ring excellence going back to Bruno Samartino and Buddy Rogers, but in this era you need to be a good character as well which is why Styles is champion and commands the respect of fans all over the world past or present, experts and wrestling legends; obviously kiyun ki saas bi kabi bahu thi fans won't get that, they're more use to degenerate TV. Anyway, the company right now is a different beast, don't get caught up in the views of morons who tune in once in a blue moon, if you watch it for a year consistently for yourself you"ll know where am coming from and I've been watching it as long as anybody out there.
 
First ever women’s royal rumble.

Ronda rousey rumoured to be launched during RR.. Possibly she wins to set up a title shot at wrestle mania with flair’s daughter.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Stephanie McMahon trolls everyone and wins the Royal rumble herself..
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION]

Who do you guys think will win?
Can’t see past Ronda winning this tbh. I know it seems predictable but she's already a huge draw and too big a star to show up and not win. They'd want her to make instant impact and what better way to do that than winning the Rumble.
 
Can’t see past Ronda winning this tbh. I know it seems predictable but she's already a huge draw and too big a star to show up and not win. They'd want her to make instant impact and what better way to do that than winning the Rumble.

Vince loves swerving us though :))

These are the candidates to win:

Rumble womens: Ronda/Asuka
Rumble mens: Reigns/Nak

Vince will throw at least 1-2 curve balls lol because he knows what we really want aha
 
Can’t see past Ronda winning this tbh. I know it seems predictable but she's already a huge draw and too big a star to show up and not win. They'd want her to make instant impact and what better way to do that than winning the Rumble.


Do you think she will Be able to compete in wrestling? I know she’s a huge draw but lesnar has a legit wrestling background, Ronda has wrestling background? How much development has she done would be a shame if she can’t wrestle but her character should be huge enough to hide her lack of wrestling skills.
 
Ronda will thrive as much as Lesnar did in the aftermath of ending the streak he was used exceptionally well, Ronda is a huge draw; she is the reason why women are getting pushed in combat sports all over the world and also the WWE so it's premature to think that she'd lose her popularity. Vince even in his old age is the master promoter, he understands the current market quiet well and what it demands which is why the company is thriving more then ever before to the point where he even invests in product's beyond the wrestling like movies and more recently a reboot of the XFL basically the plan is to make it american football's version of the IPL, obviously things could always be better but he knows what he's doing unlike some other moronic pillocks who think they are students of the game based on drooling over roid monsters in the 90s, it's funny because Austin himself happens to be Styles biggest fan; what's an insult to the championship is not being able to last more then a couple of minutes in the ring, that's what the title's lineage was built on in the first place, in-ring excellence going back to Bruno Samartino and Buddy Rogers, but in this era you need to be a good character as well which is why Styles is champion and commands the respect of fans all over the world past or present, experts and wrestling legends; obviously kiyun ki saas bi kabi bahu thi fans won't get that, they're more use to degenerate TV. Anyway, the company right now is a different beast, don't get caught up in the views of morons who tune in once in a blue moon, if you watch it for a year consistently for yourself you"ll know where am coming from and I've been watching it as long as anybody out there.



Post #5317 your views on Ronda being able to wrestle?

Problem isn’t AJ styles problem is that the lack of fresh and interesting story lines along with lack of character building..

Mid card and lower mid card people need character and story lines.. No one cares of same old tag team matches without any context or storyline.. Remember Nation vs DX vs Hart Foundation while Brett hart was fighting with Austin.. You need strong storylines like that to make it interesting for casuals..

I know technical wrestling is better now but I am more of a casual viewer who wants/enjoys storyline more than technical fights..

For fights I watch ufc or ROH these days they are fun and really easy enjoyable.. Even japan wrestling is good in terms of technical aspect.. Whatever WWE does they can never get me or people like me back to full time viewership just because of how much we have grown out of it and the options available.
 
Post #5317 your views on Ronda being able to wrestle?

Problem isn’t AJ styles problem is that the lack of fresh and interesting story lines along with lack of character building..

Mid card and lower mid card people need character and story lines.. No one cares of same old tag team matches without any context or storyline.. Remember Nation vs DX vs Hart Foundation while Brett hart was fighting with Austin.. You need strong storylines like that to make it interesting for casuals..

I know technical wrestling is better now but I am more of a casual viewer who wants/enjoys storyline more than technical fights..

For fights I watch ufc or ROH these days they are fun and really easy enjoyable.. Even japan wrestling is good in terms of technical aspect.. Whatever WWE does they can never get me or people like me back to full time viewership just because of how much we have grown out of it and the options available.

A lot of people who say lack of fresh and interesting storyline's tune in only when the old stars come back so that's not an accurate observation nor is it valid if you just watch a couple of shows. It's like me complaining about Breaking Bad being awful having watch 1 or 2 episodes. The landscape is completely different now, there was a point where it became 100% PG but there's more of a balance at present given the varying age groups which watch WWE.

The biggest reason why they had to go PG completely in 2007 was because of Benoit, he completely transformed the industry in America and they had to in order to survive given the main stream negativity, they banned chair shots to the head, introduced a wellness policy when it came to drug use, wrestlers are now better looked after and there are world class experts in the medical and physiotherapy field on hand if anything goes wrong. So there are pros and cons to wanting a product which is overly ruthless in the ring itself, many of your favourites have also died a lot sooner then they should have. Also, there's more of an emphasis on the in-ring work then in the past right now; so why will the company isolate its fan base. Vince is the master of adjusting where he needs to in order to prolong the company. Also, if old school fans primarily drove the project then we'd see a TV-14 product obviously within the confines of the modern restrictions; however they only show up for WM or Royal Rumble etc so as a business it would be a suicidal to make weekly episodes for those group of fans.

Having said that, to say there's no story or character building is a big myth once again. Am not sure what you watch but Bray Wyatt / Matt Hardy has been a compelling feud, a guy called Braun Strowman has been built up exceptionally well and in him they've finally found a replacement for monsters like Big Show / Kane, whether people like it or not AJ Styles is on hell of a character and in-ring performer who drives a lot of business on Smackdown, The Mizz is another terrific character and is always so invested in the IC title and keeps it relevant, Brock Lesnar is more over then he was in the early 2000's, if things were so bad then am sure he'd not be thriving in the current set up, Jinder Mahal's reign has been a mixed bag but he will go back to the upper mid card right now as a major player, Bobby Roode is fantastic, the women's division is more meaningful then it has ever been in history, Chad Gable/Benjamin, Rusev/English, USOS, The New Day and Cesaro/Sheamus are all phenomenal tag teams and have been involved in some very engaging feuds over the past 12 months and the main event scene is starting to look more interesting as we get ready for mania with Styles/Nak looking to battle over the title and if you know their history from Japan then there's a lot of backstory there to build on the same can be said for Reigns/Lesnar.

Many of you guys were fans of the Attitude Era but you didn't get consistent story telling beyond a couple of segments never mind weeks it's just that instance where people overly bury their heads in nostalgia, it was crash style TV. In the golden era you did get more of a long build but that was when kayfabe was still alive. Am not sure how you can criticise the WWE for lack of story and characters but enjoy Japan/ROH when those promotions are entirely focused on in-ring work, who do you enjoy watching in ROH? I stopped watching since the likes of Joe, Bryan, Punk, Styles, Daniels, Low Ki etc left and speaking of Samoa Joe! if you watched WWE consistently you'd appreciate how well they have utilised him, poor guy got injured recently at the wrong time.

I agree that WWE could certainly improve overall and invest in longer story arc's but to suggest that they don't make an effort is untrue and they invest more in their character work and story's then any other promotions in the world, that's why they are a global powerhouse. The Mizz is not exactly some in-ring general, but he has achieved so much because of his amazing character work; just one of the examples.

Ken Shamrock had zero background in wrestling as well but he did absolutely fine, there's a chick called Sonya Deville and Bazzler (A frend of Ronda) who also has an MMA background and she's doing really well in WWE and is such a bad @ss. Shamrock did say he found it tough to make the transition from MMA to wrestling though, it's not easy. I see no reason why Ronda will struggle, she's a big fan of WWE and has been training in pro-wrestling even when she was the UFC world champion. And the fact that she has all that legitimacy behind her, she doesn't even need to do a lot in the ring and less is more, she will probably work a shot style similar to Lesnar when he returned to the company
 
A lot of people who say lack of fresh and interesting storyline's tune in only when the old stars come back so that's not an accurate observation nor is it valid if you just watch a couple of shows. It's like me complaining about Breaking Bad being awful having watch 1 or 2 episodes. The landscape is completely different now, there was a point where it became 100% PG but there's more of a balance at present given the varying age groups which watch WWE.

The biggest reason why they had to go PG completely in 2007 was because of Benoit, he completely transformed the industry in America and they had to in order to survive given the main stream negativity, they banned chair shots to the head, introduced a wellness policy when it came to drug use, wrestlers are now better looked after and there are world class experts in the medical and physiotherapy field on hand if anything goes wrong. So there are pros and cons to wanting a product which is overly ruthless in the ring itself, many of your favourites have also died a lot sooner then they should have. Also, there's more of an emphasis on the in-ring work then in the past right now; so why will the company isolate its fan base. Vince is the master of adjusting where he needs to in order to prolong the company. Also, if old school fans primarily drove the project then we'd see a TV-14 product obviously within the confines of the modern restrictions; however they only show up for WM or Royal Rumble etc so as a business it would be a suicidal to make weekly episodes for those group of fans.

Having said that, to say there's no story or character building is a big myth once again. Am not sure what you watch but Bray Wyatt / Matt Hardy has been a compelling feud, a guy called Braun Strowman has been built up exceptionally well and in him they've finally found a replacement for monsters like Big Show / Kane, whether people like it or not AJ Styles is on hell of a character and in-ring performer who drives a lot of business on Smackdown, The Mizz is another terrific character and is always so invested in the IC title and keeps it relevant, Brock Lesnar is more over then he was in the early 2000's, if things were so bad then am sure he'd not be thriving in the current set up, Jinder Mahal's reign has been a mixed bag but he will go back to the upper mid card right now as a major player, Bobby Roode is fantastic, the women's division is more meaningful then it has ever been in history, Chad Gable/Benjamin, Rusev/English, USOS, The New Day and Cesaro/Sheamus are all phenomenal tag teams and have been involved in some very engaging feuds over the past 12 months and the main event scene is starting to look more interesting as we get ready for mania with Styles/Nak looking to battle over the title and if you know their history from Japan then there's a lot of backstory there to build on the same can be said for Reigns/Lesnar.

Many of you guys were fans of the Attitude Era but you didn't get consistent story telling beyond a couple of segments never mind weeks it's just that instance where people overly bury their heads in nostalgia, it was crash style TV. In the golden era you did get more of a long build but that was when kayfabe was still alive. Am not sure how you can criticise the WWE for lack of story and characters but enjoy Japan/ROH when those promotions are entirely focused on in-ring work, who do you enjoy watching in ROH? I stopped watching since the likes of Joe, Bryan, Punk, Styles, Daniels, Low Ki etc left and speaking of Samoa Joe! if you watched WWE consistently you'd appreciate how well they have utilised him, poor guy got injured recently at the wrong time.

I agree that WWE could certainly improve overall and invest in longer story arc's but to suggest that they don't make an effort is untrue and they invest more in their character work and story's then any other promotions in the world, that's why they are a global powerhouse. The Mizz is not exactly some in-ring general, but he has achieved so much because of his amazing character work; just one of the examples.

Ken Shamrock had zero background in wrestling as well but he did absolutely fine, there's a chick called Sonya Deville and Bazzler (A frend of Ronda) who also has an MMA background and she's doing really well in WWE and is such a bad @ss. Shamrock did say he found it tough to make the transition from MMA to wrestling though, it's not easy. I see no reason why Ronda will struggle, she's a big fan of WWE and has been training in pro-wrestling even when she was the UFC world champion. And the fact that she has all that legitimacy behind her, she doesn't even need to do a lot in the ring and less is more, she will probably work a shot style similar to Lesnar when he returned to the company


I agree with some of your points but you have missed my main point. A lot of. People have grown out of wrestling as you grow with age, storylines we used to enjoy as kids now the same storylines will be laughed at..

Bray wyatt is a good character and enjoyed him since his time as leader of the bearded stable however he never wins it seems.. If you want to build a strong character and dangerous heel you need victories.. For all the mic talk as soon as he steps in ring he loses why would anyone be scared of him?? Look at undertaker he was a genuine dangerous guy at start of his career beating everyone he faced, bray is good but then he loses and ultimately people can forget 1-2 losses but if you lose every match people just lose interest in the character..

Matt hardy is copying his gimmick from TNA times he’s good I know let’s see how far WWE let’s him go.. The main reason his gimmick was great in TNA was because he and Jeff were given full freedom to do whatever they want and both had lots of fun doing their characters.. Let’s see how much WWE allows them to do..

On TV they show Old TNA and ROH matches which are fun to watch... NJPW matches I only watch those which are given top notch ratings and are trending all over YouTube.. Like recent one Chris Jericho had.. Great match..

Maybe it’s nostalgia maybe something else who knows but wrestling can never be as close to my life as it used to be growing up.. Its just how it is, doesn’t mean the wrestlers are bad just that I would still rather go on YouTube and watch old savage, Hogan, warrior, Hart, michaels, rock, Austin etc feuds/promos than watch most of the current stars.. Some are good though no doubt just not that careable to tune in every week..

Let’s see how Ronda does I hope they bring in Meisha Tate or Holly Holmes in future when they have built up Ronda as this destructive force who is going over everyone they bring in either of those two women to challenge he would be fun to see.. Should bring in some moolah for all parties involved..
 
I agree with some of your points but you have missed my main point. A lot of. People have grown out of wrestling as you grow with age, storylines we used to enjoy as kids now the same storylines will be laughed at..

Bray wyatt is a good character and enjoyed him since his time as leader of the bearded stable however he never wins it seems.. If you want to build a strong character and dangerous heel you need victories.. For all the mic talk as soon as he steps in ring he loses why would anyone be scared of him?? Look at undertaker he was a genuine dangerous guy at start of his career beating everyone he faced, bray is good but then he loses and ultimately people can forget 1-2 losses but if you lose every match people just lose interest in the character..

Matt hardy is copying his gimmick from TNA times he’s good I know let’s see how far WWE let’s him go.. The main reason his gimmick was great in TNA was because he and Jeff were given full freedom to do whatever they want and both had lots of fun doing their characters.. Let’s see how much WWE allows them to do..

On TV they show Old TNA and ROH matches which are fun to watch... NJPW matches I only watch those which are given top notch ratings and are trending all over YouTube.. Like recent one Chris Jericho had.. Great match..

Maybe it’s nostalgia maybe something else who knows but wrestling can never be as close to my life as it used to be growing up.. Its just how it is, doesn’t mean the wrestlers are bad just that I would still rather go on YouTube and watch old savage, Hogan, warrior, Hart, michaels, rock, Austin etc feuds/promos than watch most of the current stars.. Some are good though no doubt just not that careable to tune in every week..

Let’s see how Ronda does I hope they bring in Meisha Tate or Holly Holmes in future when they have built up Ronda as this destructive force who is going over everyone they bring in either of those two women to challenge he would be fun to see.. Should bring in some moolah for all parties involved..

People to grow out of it and then move on to supporting Jon Snow's bid to defeat the army of the undead and his wish to bed mother of dragons ul Khaleesi who also happens to be his auntie :)) I think that a lot of viewers who criticise the product are extremely hypocritical, anyhow you will never find the cringe worthy story lines you did during the attitude era, but they could certainly be more depth that's true and I agree with you that booking needs to improve in order to create big stars which Wyatt clearly has the potential to be but in between all that I'd be lying to you if I said they don't get it right from time to time and when they do, no one does it better and you wont find much better story telling outside the company even though it is more of a in-ring performance oriented environment at preent.

Yes that's true, Vince has given Matt creative freedom with his current Woken persona as well and it's the same one inspired by TNA. It's very scripted environment so it's not always easy to get your ideas across also when job security is on the line but experienced verteran's tend to back themselves while others like Punk are not afraid to challenge the system, there are more restrictions now but Vince said himself in his own words that back in the day it was a shark tank everyone was looking to get into the top spot and took more risks, at present you do get more yes men. However, booking could improve and wrestlers also need to back themselves.

Jericho is criminally underated, he now has managed to get over as a top star in distinct era's, it just shows that class is permanent and the system is not as such to the point where everyone is overly handicapped, his goofy list persona has been very entertaining then he went to Japan and turned into a full blown monster heel to the point where his work in that feud broke record attendance at the tokyo dome.

My favourite era was the Ruthless Aggression era and I know things won't ever quiet be the same, but my fandom of stars I loved growing up doesn't get in the way of appreciating the current product, which is not perfect at all by the way but it's still a great escape and all the good moments make up for the negative ones.

Am sure she will do fine, plus her background is in Judo that can potentially help her pick things up a lot faster then others who are starting out and am sure she has invested a lot of time in preparation during her down time, Ronda is such a huge star that she could have gone to Hollywood but she just loves pro wrestling and if we can keep her happy then we're in for on hell of a time. Miesha Tate could potentially come one day hopefully, she was my all time fav fighter along with Holly; Cyborg is interested to. Ronda is the type of talent which could main-event or co-main-event mania, the company will strap a rocket to her back without a doubt. But hey lets not talk so soon, we don't know for sure her level of involvement with the company and may not even show up at the Rumble because at the end of the day she doesn't need the win, someone else would benefit more from it in order to have momentum if they are to challenge Ronda for example so lets see what way they go
 
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[MENTION=141093]big_gamer007[/MENTION] You probably would enjoy NXT under the current WWE banner although stylistically it's more of a hybrid in terms of style which combines American, European an Japanese forms, the pace is a lot slower and they focus more on individual feuds. Its a development territory but so much more, they tend to hire a lot of experienced foreign talent and those from the indies, it helps groom future talent as well. There's one fella called the Velveteen Dream, at first I thought good luck getting that persona over but he's so popular right now, he's a fan like we were growing up and that passion really shows in his work, his character is like a hybrid of Rick Rude and early 90's HBK. Am watching the Takeover PPV in Philly, check it out if you like. I rarely watch NXT weekly episodes as don't get enough time bu you may enjoy them, but never miss a Takeover show
 
The drifter is another great character not sure if you caught him on RAW but man is he entertaining and then after that segment the guy took out Cena who is the company's biggest star [MENTION=141093]big_gamer007[/MENTION] we focus on the negatives but that's one of the positives in terms of what they've done with Elias and that segment in general, was a huge boost for him
 
The drifter is another great character not sure if you caught him on RAW but man is he entertaining and then after that segment the guy took out Cena who is the company's biggest star [MENTION=141093]big_gamer007[/MENTION] we focus on the negatives but that's one of the positives in terms of what they've done with Elias and that segment in general, was a huge boost for him

No RR prediction comp? :mv

Who’s even still active on this thread? :afaq
 
[MENTION=141093]big_gamer007[/MENTION] you follow mma forgot to tell you that Bazzler is signed to the WWE as well, she's a pioneer of women's MMA. Check out her match at Takeover, her first PPV. They also show a promo prior to the match which shows how they have built her and the feud with her opponent Ember Moon up.
 
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] willl reply later in detail.

P.S. Stop hating on the Maharaja, he will soon be US champions and Indians wouldnhave officially taken over America.. :amir3
 
It's mostly me, Jinder Mahal fans and AJ Styles haters ( yes they exist ) :))

My pick is a swerve :)) what's yours

Sounds like a fun gang to hang out with :msd :))

I know there’s only like 8 hours left till the pre show but what the heck - let’s give it a bash even if it’s just you and I :)

Let’s:

- Predict a winner for each match
- Predict the final 4 for each royal rumble match

If you predict a match correctly -> +2 points
If you predict either royal rumble winner correctly -> +4 points
For each “Final 4” you Guess correctly for each Rumblr match -> +1 point

The predictions to make are are:

1. Bobby Roode vs TBC for the US title
2. Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson vs. The Revival (Scott Dawson and Dash Wilder)
3. Kalisto, Lince Dorado, and Gran Metalik vs. TJP, Gentleman Jack Gallagher, and Drew Gulak
4. The Usos (Jey and Jimmy Uso) (c) vs. Chad Gable and Shelton Benjamin
5. Seth Rollins and Jason Jordan (c) vs. Cesaro and Sheamus
6. AJ Styles (c) vs. Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn
7. Brock Lesnar (c) (with Paul Heyman) vs. Braun Strowman vs. Kane
8a. Women’s Rumble Final 4
8b. Women’s Rumble Winner
9a. Men’s Rumble Final 4
9b. Men’s Rumble Winner
 
My predictions below:

1. Roode to retain
2. G&A to win
3. Kalisto & co. to win
4. Usos to retain
5. Cesaro & Shemus to win
6. AJ to win
7. Brockk to win
8a. Sasha, Bayley, Asuka & Rousey to be Final 4
8b. Rousey to win
9a. Cena, Braun, Roman & Nakamura to be Final 4
9b. Nakamura to win
 
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] - can you please tag your gang who are still active in this thread to see if we can get a few people involved - other than just us 2.

Maybe one of the mods can update the thread title?.......who are mods these days? :S I’m so out of touch with PP lately....
 
Do you think she will Be able to compete in wrestling? I know she’s a huge draw but lesnar has a legit wrestling background, Ronda has wrestling background? How much development has she done would be a shame if she can’t wrestle but her character should be huge enough to hide her lack of wrestling skills.

Shouldn't be too difficult for her to transition into pro wrestling given the amount of experience she already has in combat sports. She's been training at WWE’s Performance Center for a while now so she should be able to handle herself fine. It's her mic skills that I'd be worried about tbh, she's going to need to be good with her promos to really get over.
 
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] - can you please tag your gang who are still active in this thread to see if we can get a few people involved - other than just us 2.

Maybe one of the mods can update the thread title?.......who are mods these days? :S I’m so out of touch with PP lately....

I'm still here. :ksi
 
1. Bobby Roode
2. Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson
3. Kalisto, Lince Dorado, and Gran Metalik
4. The Usos
5. Seth Rollins and Jason Jordan
6. AJ Styles
7. Brock Lesnar
8a. Becky, Nia, Asuka & Rousey
8b. Ronda Rousey
9a. Cena, Orton, Roman & Nakamura
9b. Shinsuke Nakamura
[MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION]
 
What rubbish?? The mens Rumble match is in the second hour of the PPV. People will probably fall asleep after this!
 
YES!!!!!!!!!! MY DREAM MATCH IS COMING TO LIFE AT WM34!!!!

AJ Styles vs Shinsuke Nakamarua for the WWE Championship at the grandest stage of them all!!! Oh my I can not wait!!!!
 
Really wanted to see Undertaker come out and throw Cena over the top rope, as he was in Philly and it would have been a great way to set up his match at WM against Cena. Also wish the final two of the rumble were Nakamura and Balor, would have been a much more enticing end however great result and now I am looking forward to Mania!
 
Balor really deserved to be in the final two after a 58 minute performance, I wonder what the plans are for him come WrestleMania.
 
1. Bobby Roode
2. Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson
3. Kalisto, Lince Dorado, and Gran Metalik
4. The Usos
5. Seth Rollins and Jason Jordan
6. AJ Styles
7. Brock Lesnar
8a. Becky, Nia, Asuka & Rousey
8b. Ronda Rousey
9a. Cena, Orton, Roman & Nakamura
9b. Shinsuke Nakamura

[MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION]

I wouldn't like if Ronda just walked in and won the rumble on her first night in WWE. The other women have really been working hard to get this moment the first ever women royal rumble, and a women who has never wrestled just shows up and wins. It would get great publicity and all but I wouldn't be too happy if I was one of the women who had been working so hard for so long. Hence I would much rather if Becky or Asuka win.
 
Brock vs Braun vs Kane was a great match, so now I guess we will have a number 1 contender's match for the Universal Championship at the Elimination Chamber, Reigns will win and go on to headline WM again. Although I really like Reigns if you have a card featuring Nakamura vs Styles you have to make that the main event.

Also really hope Chris Jericho returns in time for WM would be a disappointment if an active star of his caliber misses out at WM.
 
A really strong PPV apart from the ending. Best Rumble PPV in years.

Ending was a bit dumb.

You finally have a women’s rumble match

You hype it for weeks/months

30 women fight it out for over an hour

You finally have a winner

But apparently you can simply walk down to the ring, point at the Mania sign & get your Mania title shot! Made the whole Women Rumble irrelevant.

Should have let Asuka pick who she wanted to face (Alexa Bliss) - either tonight or on RAW tomorrow - and then brought in Ronda in on RAW tomorrow night to challenge her for a match at Mani.

No point coming out straight after he Rumble, stealing Asuka’s moment and rendering the whole Women’s Rumble match insignificant.

Apart from that ending - quite liked the PPV. Solid show, good Rumble matches and Nita LH good triple threat match for the RAW championship
 
A really strong PPV apart from the ending. Best Rumble PPV in years.

Ending was a bit dumb.

You finally have a women’s rumble match

You hype it for weeks/months

30 women fight it out for over an hour

You finally have a winner

But apparently you can simply walk down to the ring, point at the Mania sign & get your Mania title shot! Made the whole Women Rumble irrelevant.

Should have let Asuka pick who she wanted to face (Alexa Bliss) - either tonight or on RAW tomorrow - and then brought in Ronda in on RAW tomorrow night to challenge her for a match at Mani.

No point coming out straight after he Rumble, stealing Asuka’s moment and rendering the whole Women’s Rumble match insignificant.

Apart from that ending - quite liked the PPV. Solid show, good Rumble matches and Nita LH good triple threat match for the RAW championship

Absolutely agree!
 
Here are my grades for the PPV

Six Man Cruiserweight Tag Team Match - 2/10

Gallows and Anderson vs The Revival - 3/10

Bobby Roode vs Mojo Rawley (US Championship Match) - 3/10

AJ Styles vs Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn (WWE Championship Match) - 9/10


Loved the pace of the match with some well placed near falls had me wondering what the result would be. As Styles always does he looked crafty, but he also looked dangerous which he really hasn't shown as much in his run as face. Owens injury was a nice narrative for the match. Overall I feel it was a great match to start the show and it set the tone for the rest of the night. It also leaves the options open as to where WWE goes with this as it seemed Owens did not tag in at the end there.

The Usos vs Chad Gable and Shelton Benjamin (SD TT Championships) - ??

TBH I do not like the Usos and am not really intrigued in whatever they do, and I skipped this match so no grade from me.

Men's Royal Rumble Match - 10/10

There were many great moments in this match and I never got bored as there were many subplots featured in this rumble. I didn't think there was anything left for Kingston to do to entertain us but as he always does he surprised us again. Corbin was made to look strong despite being eliminated early. It was soooo great to see ADAM COLE in the match I hope this is his debut on the main roster and please use him well WWE. I truly loved the way Balor was booked, too many times since his return Balor has been made to look like a jobber but this 58 minute performance proved what he is capable of truly should have been in the final two. The final moments of the match were too sweet. We saw a standoff between two generations! The Ruthless Aggression Era vs The Reality Era it was to good to be true! The result however is what got me buzzing the most! Nakamura won. If we look at all the Royal Rumbles winners since 2007, all the winners expect maybe Del Rio and Reigns (and fans did not like that) were established stars. Going with a young star elevates a fresh face to the top of the company in a big way. This win sets up a dream match I don't have words to describe and I have an exam tomorrow morning and I should be long asleep but this win has just got me too excited!!!!

The Bar vs Rollins and Jordan (Raw TT Championships) - 7/10

One sided match seemed like it was just there to bring the crowd down after the rumble really. There was some good story telling in the match but the action was underwhelming to be honest. The bright side is I don't have to see Jason Jordan holding a championship anymore.

Brock Lesnar vs Braun Strowman vs Kane - 9/10 (Universal Championship Match)

I loved this match the pace was intense from start to finish. Table upon Table just destroyed by each man it was great to watch. A match loaded with big spots and destruction. Brock and Braun were just firing on all cylinders the punch Brock hit Braun with made me dizzy just watching it. Kane obviously at the end of his career wasn't able to keep up with the other two big men but it was an intense match different from all the other matches and I loved it!

Women Royal Rumble Match - 11/10

I absolutely loved this match watching the women from the past compete with the women of today was extremely fun to watch! Overall this was just a really fun match to watch Lita's return, Stratus and Mickie rekindling their rivalry as did Moon and Asuka just a really fun match to watch, and happy that Ronda didn't come and steal the spotlight (although she kinda did but atelast she didn't win) of the women who have been working so hard to get to where they are.
 
I don't think Ronda walking out derailed Asuka's win because it just hypes her WM involvement with the women and was a great moment. Good piece of business from WWE to create hype for mania and with all the rumours and Rumble being a big PPV it was the perfect moment to debut and get the mainstream publicity. At the end of the day Ronda is the reason why all women in combat sports and sports entertainment are geting a push and she is arguably an even bigger box office powerhouse then Lesnar.

The mens Rumble match was amazing and not only one of the best in recent years, and possibly in the top 5 all time. Who ever laid things out this year did a really great job. The Slater bit was fun, Almas got a good run, Balor got the iron man role, and Rey was a spectacular surprise. He looks to be in great shape, and if he’s in for a run, I’d love to see he and Styles get a match. I thought the booking to get to the final six (Balor, Nakamura, Reigns, Rey, Orton, & Cena) worked extremely well, as you had guys that were over, guys the fans wanted to win and just as important, guys the fans wanted to lose in the worst way. Nakamura’s WWE run has been less than spectacular, but this was a great rehabilitation match for him. He was over huge, worked hard, and the fans wanted him to win to see the Styles match.

The women had a lot to overcome, a crowd that was dead for the last two matches after the men’s Rumble, the fact that the guys killed it, and also the fact that this was their first rumble match and had a ton thrown onto them with all of WWEs making history media blitz. But with that being said, I felt that they delivered a great match for a first effort and again, the layout was a big part of that.

I loved both world championships matches, AJ Styles is an alien; the stuff he can pull of at his age in the ring is surreal, the handicap match was so much fun and the triple threat slug frst involving Braun, Lesnar and Kane really enjoyed it.

Overall an amazing PPV and great start to WM season. [MENTION=141093]big_gamer007[/MENTION] Make sure you watch it
 
[MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION] Sorry bro I saw your prediction post just now :)) if we had hyped it before hand there may have been more jobbers showing interest
 
Also enjoyed Asuka's audacity to show a little bit of disrespect to Ronda by slapping her hand the way she did and smirking like the psychopath she is, if Ronda laid her out then that may have taken away from the win so pointing towards the WM sign to crrate hype was fine
 
[MENTION=141093]big_gamer007[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION] I used one of my holidays to book Monday off work so I could stay up watching Royal Rumble :))) am probably the only one, maybe Talha did as well lmao
 
Ronda is a big fan of Rowdy Piper and he let her use his name in combat sports as well 'Rowdy' Ronda Rousey. The jacket she wore belongs to Rowdy Piper, it was given to her before the PPV by Piper's son and she had his famous hot rod shirt on, nice touch. She confirms that a full time contract has been signed, am so excited. Guys if the company was that bad folk like Ronda and Lesnar wouldn't be there, huge boost this; now in Ronda they have someone whom could main event mania and put an even bigger spotlight on the other stars if they went in that direction and Ronda moves the needle to the point where it's viable although I'd like to see Nak / Styles go on last but that's because am biased as well lol
 
Amazing Royal Rumble, really loved both the matches women’s and men’s..

The math between Brock Kane and braun was also pretty good, some of the hits look real legit..

I think Asuka will face smack down champion and Ronda will face flair’s daughter..

AJ styles vs nakamura would be a wrestling masterpiece no doubt..

Brock vs Roman would be meh because roman will win and he just doesn’t give the heavy weight champion vibes..

Impressed with - Ember moon, Asuka, Nakamura, Finn ballor..

Biggest disappointment was not seeing jinder mahal win, he got cheated by new day
Though that jump from That black dude was epic.. Moment of royal rumble for me.. Hopefully jinder and Singh brothers go in a segment with new day should be funny and if jinder comes out of top we will have watched a good story overall..
 
[MENTION=141093]big_gamer007[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION] I used one of my holidays to book Monday off work so I could stay up watching Royal Rumble :))) am probably the only one, maybe Talha did as well lmao

Dont worry about the prediction comp man :)

Nah man I stayed up till 4 to watch Rumble then had to come into work today because I have a all day meeting from 10 to 5.30 - the struggle is real :sanga

Was actually worth it though for a change! :inzi
 
Amazing Royal Rumble, really loved both the matches women’s and men’s..

The math between Brock Kane and braun was also pretty good, some of the hits look real legit..

I think Asuka will face smack down champion and Ronda will face flair’s daughter..

AJ styles vs nakamura would be a wrestling masterpiece no doubt..

Brock vs Roman would be meh because roman will win and he just doesn’t give the heavy weight champion vibes..

Impressed with - Ember moon, Asuka, Nakamura, Finn ballor..

Biggest disappointment was not seeing jinder mahal win, he got cheated by new day
Though that jump from That black dude was epic.. Moment of royal rumble for me.. Hopefully jinder and Singh brothers go in a segment with new day should be funny and if jinder comes out of top we will have watched a good story overall..

Make sure you watch the Takeover show from Phlly as well
 
Dont worry about the prediction comp man :)

Nah man I stayed up till 4 to watch Rumble then had to come into work today because I have a all day meeting from 10 to 5.30 - the struggle is real :sanga

Was actually worth it though for a change! :inzi

You must be a team leader then :)) can't avoid those meetings, am a new jobber and had 5 days to take off before the cut off so used one of those for the Rumble Did you see the big dawg go? his little duel will Nakamura was awesome, I wanted to see it to because styles make fights and you just know that the two will have amazing chemistry, hoping for a big feud down the line think they can have MOTY candidates
 
[MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION] did you mark out to see the Hurricane aka [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] :)) cringed when Lita climbed the top rope, didn't know she could could pull off the Lita sault. And by gawd almighty, Trish Stratus still got it :afridi :ksi
 
ONE OF THE GREATEST RUMBLES OF ALL TIMES BAH GAWD! eat that kiyun ki saas bi kabi bahu thi fans aka that Virat Kohli hater who poses as an Indian, also funny how Ric Flair put over AJ Styles as this generation's Shawn Michaels, not a bad rub from the greatest right :yk2 the pillocks who have an opposing view are very little but admiration from the GOAT is all that matters
 
I thought I would chime in with my thoughts. I am seeing a lot plaudits about last night event but to be honest, I thought it sucked. Die-hard wrestling fans (aka the Indie marks) only hyping it because Nakamura won. I will get to that later.

First off, for the side matches. I thought the Rollins Tag match was horrible. Crowd was dead. No hot tag. It was like watching a episode of Raw. And dear lord confirmed our worst fear. Rollins in a throwaway match at WM with Jason Jordan. Jordan I think is good but he shouldn't be on WM card. Smackdown tag match was irrelevant, could have saved that for Smackdown.

Brock gonna do Brock, now Strauman in limbo for WM. Only reason they put him in this match cause had they put him in RR, then he had to win. Screwing up rest of their plans. They missing a golden opp. Strauman should get the title at WM. Hottest guy all year, fans cheer for him regardless cause of the freak he is.

Mens Royal Rumble. This one sucked huge. Not many returns or surprises (lol Ziggler at 30, yeah that has me excited). Why they throw in useless mid-carders like Goldust, bring back some legends - that part of excitement. Nakamura wins, fans happy - otherwise had Roman won they would ruin rest of the event. Not too say he is not the right choice (who else if no Strauman?) but just cause he won does not mean this was a good match. Match sucked period. Also planning of match was terrible. Too many times guys just saved someone randomly with a punch and then just walked away. At one point I remember Cena walked towards Balor on the apron, saw him…realized it wasn’t time and just walked away!

As for Nakamura, he doesn’t interest me and that too as champion. What is working in his favour is his history with Styles. Styles sells this match for me, not Nakamura. Nakamura can't sell sh!t on a promo. Please don't tell me he oozes personality. He doesn't if you not a NJPW fan. I could care less what he did there. I also find his style does not fit with WWE that great. Prob better in Japan with his strong style. If you watch his matches you see a lot of botches. That is not all down to him, so its good he has AJ for this match but post-AJ, if he champ - meh. He will be exposed by casual fan as champ.

Women’s rumble. The only saving grace of this match – was lo and behold, what we missed in the mens. Returning legends. Got good pops and had us interested (not sure how they repeat that next year, should cut to 20 women, 15 current, 5 legends or have more NxT members). Past that, the match wasn’t that good for various reasons. Number 1, a lot of competitors spent a lot of time outside the ring. Sasha and Becky prob were 50/50 in and out of the ring. Number 2, why does WWE think Bellas are good wrestlers? I get it, they have a show cause of Cena but dear lord, final two? This is the womens first RR. The last two should be the best two or the best two going forward. Should have been Asuka and Sasha or Nia. Really should have been Nia. Number 3. Another botched ending (what do you expect with a Bella at the end). Like HitC all over again. Vince won’t be happy and he shouldn’t. This is the main event. Cut out the botches. You want to main event, you should be held to the same standard as a main event then. Why don’t they rehearse this stuff or put someone capable to do the job.

As for Ronda, the WM thing was cringeworthy. Not sure why they didn’t let Asuka just pick Bliss and then Ronda comes out, looks at Charlotte and then Charlotte looks over her shoulder at the WM sign and smiles. That’s it. Not like you committed to anything but you plant the seeds.
 
Man this whole PPV was good. Takeover > Rumble but Rumble had some great booking. Very crowd pleasing and no nonsense "Swerves" to annoy the audience.
 
Predicted a Nakamura win. We are going to see a AJ vs Nakamura match! Lesnar won which was predictable . Looks like he will be facing Roman at WM. Think it will be a good match even though it's not what people want.

Glad that Rollins and Jordan lost the tittles. It was a weird pairing. I hope Rollins can move onto a feud more meaningful and interesting. Chad and Shelton have been burried as a tag team. They lost in 2 falls after talking so much. Shelton needs to go solo, he would do well in the upper mid card. Chad needs to go back to Jordan. They were a strong team, don't understand why they were split up for such a meangliness storyline involving Kurt Angle.

Glad Asuka won the women's rumble and not Ronda. At the end of the day the reason women are so relevant in wrestling now is because of the women in the WWE. Giving Ronda a rumble win would have shown WWE have no faith in there own talent. Askuka vs Bliss and Charlotte versus Ronda will be 2 good matches .
 
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