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Just like that, Andrade’s suddenly box-office no thanks to the turd booker.

P.S I think Andrade would whoop MJF for real lol Not sure if this is a work or if they will actually wrestle but I’d love to see it in Mexico.
I think Andrade definitely has some issues. It's one thing to leave AEW on bad terms, but lightening rarely strikes twice. I read somewhere that he failed a wellness test, no-showed the Paris PLE, and stopped responding to them when they asked. It's a shame because he's a talented guy.
 
I think Andrade definitely has some issues. It's one thing to leave AEW on bad terms, but lightening rarely strikes twice. I read somewhere that he failed a wellness test, no-showed the Paris PLE, and stopped responding to them when they asked. It's a shame because he's a talented guy.

He flipped off the gringo H and worked much better with Vince.

Both TK & H are not the best bookers either tbh can’t manage people with issues so let them go.

Andrade came motivated to the WWE and he hasn’t been given anything remotely interesting.

This NXT homecoming show was funny, H thought he could come out for an ego boost but it reminded me of all the people he couldn’t get over on the main-roster :yk
 
Every storyline seems like a joke rn, la knight and jey story is getting more interesting that’s it. Roman the ATG literally having to feud a shoe thief

Just need someone with more creativity who instead of pushing his favorite jobbers ahead of those more deserving also knows how to book more than just triple threats, and matches with interruptions to maintain 2-3 year long title reign… is this too much to ask for from wwe? 🤔
 
Every storyline seems like a joke rn, la knight and jey story is getting more interesting that’s it. Roman the ATG literally having to feud a shoe thief

Just need someone with more creativity who instead of pushing his favorite jobbers ahead of those more deserving also knows how to book more than just triple threats, and matches with interruptions to maintain 2-3 year long title reign… is this too much to ask for from wwe? 🤔
Only if you forget the fact that they have been beating LA Knight like a government mule for the past two months. I honestly can't remember the last time he won a singles match. Bron Breakker has beaten him twice and even Bronson Reed got a win over him. Add to that a bunch of tag losses.
 
Only if you forget the fact that they have been beating LA Knight like a government mule for the past two months. I honestly can't remember the last time he won a singles match. Bron Breakker has beaten him twice and even Bronson Reed got a win over him. Add to that a bunch of tag losses.
Oh yeah, that too. But I’ve been saying it for so long for what feels like years that I sadly have gotten used to LA knight being treated like this… this is like prime rock, Cena or Austin being forced to job in their best years.

He has more talent in his pinky than triple stinky’s entire existence
 
I kinda liked Cena Lesnar match. Reinstated him as the biggest threat in WWE after losing a bit too frequently in his last run to Roman and Cody (understandable) and that weirdly booked feud with Lashley. As a face, Lesnar had to sell a lot for his opponents. Hopefully he gets to go on a dominant run again and only puts over when needed. Another thing I saw was just one suplex in the match. And Lesnar used kicks, clotheslines etc after a long time.
And seeing how the match was booked, it makes it pretty clear it wasn't Cena who asked for it.
But then again, Lesnar adds much needed adrenaline to WWE it's been lacking.
 
They made Drew look like a chump in this match. Atrocious booking. This didn't feel like a mainevent match at all.
Cody Drew is a potentially Mania mainevent.
 

Side note (yes still upset about him losing, I mean wth)

Pretty responsible answer by him even though I don’t agree with his decision. Raising children is a job on its own and one where the dad and the mom have to give their 100%, he knows he can’t give that 100% alongside his career so holding off for now.
 

Side note (yes still upset about him losing, I mean wth)

Pretty responsible answer by him even though I don’t agree with his decision. Raising children is a job on its own and one where the dad and the mom have to give their 100%, he knows he can’t give that 100% alongside his career so holding off for now.
he's almost 50. Raising children is a physically and mentally demanding job,If he couldn't raise a child in his 30s, I don't see him making an effort as a 60 year old either. If he were to have a children, he'd have one by now. Don't think he's changing his decision. He may well just be content with being a cool uncle.
 
I kinda liked Cena Lesnar match. Reinstated him as the biggest threat in WWE after losing a bit too frequently in his last run to Roman and Cody (understandable) and that weirdly booked feud with Lashley. As a face, Lesnar had to sell a lot for his opponents. Hopefully he gets to go on a dominant run again and only puts over when needed. Another thing I saw was just one suplex in the match. And Lesnar used kicks, clotheslines etc after a long time.
And seeing how the match was booked, it makes it pretty clear it wasn't Cena who asked for it.
But then again, Lesnar adds much needed adrenaline to WWE it's been lacking.
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I didn’t mind Cena/Lesnar because Lesnar got real heat which no one can generate these days, less is more, and you will remember this match and what happened, I am interested to see what they do with the heat. This match was likely produced by Heyman.

AJ/Punk vs the two Kusreh was ok but come on, men/women should never exchange blows, how on earth did Becky takedown someone with MMA training, did Sports Illustrated rate her unknown MMA capabilities as well? I bet H enjoyed that match a lot more then everyone else and got excited over the pedigrees.

Best match of the night was Sky vs Stephanie & it looked to me like the matches Shawn has produced - he is close to Stephanie & she has been willing to stand up for herself as well - H even tried taking away her cool theme the nonce, the latter is a star & lets be real, she’s only getting this long overdue push because Naomi got injured, otherwise H took her from Shawn because he couldn’t take how over she was in NXT.

Main-event was fine & Drew works so dman hard, it’s soul destroying to see him come short, he should be pushed harder then that clown Seth.
 
Wrestleplooza not lived upto hype , lesnar v Cena was one way traffic. Infact I found on YouTube, old triple threat match of Rock Undertaker and Kurt Angle Vengeance 02 more thrilling and gripping .
 
Wrestleplooza not lived upto hype , lesnar v Cena was one way traffic. Infact I found on YouTube, old triple threat match of Rock Undertaker and Kurt Angle Vengeance 02 more thrilling and gripping .

I see what you mean, but just this weekend we saw an epic super-fight between Crawford / Canelo, when Lesnar competes he gives us these super-fights in the wrestling world & brings realism into sports entertainment, some matches don’t need to be epic because you don’t get anything out of them after that, Cena getting pummelled was believable , it got people real worked up & sets up the rematch nicely or maybe War Games at Survivor Series Cena can get one over Lesnar. And Lesnar needed this to, coming back after a while, he’s a box-office attraction and if he’s booked too weak, then there is little upside with him.

My hope is we get the match between Lesnar & Gunther, if it’s a trilogy even better, Gunther’s in his peak and generally booked super strong ignoring the pathetic incident at WM this year & I feel like we need to use Lesnar to sell Gunther as the next big thing / machine.

That’s assuming Lesnar is sticking around for a while! They really need to make the most of him while he’s available because he doesn’t need the cash & can leave any second, he loves this business contrary to popular belief and honestly, there’s nobody out there quiet like him.
 
I see what you mean, but just this weekend we saw an epic super-fight between Crawford / Canelo, when Lesnar competes he gives us these super-fights in the wrestling world & brings realism into sports entertainment, some matches don’t need to be epic because you don’t get anything out of them after that, Cena getting pummelled was believable , it got people real worked up & sets up the rematch nicely or maybe War Games at Survivor Series Cena can get one over Lesnar. And Lesnar needed this to, coming back after a while, he’s a box-office attraction and if he’s booked too weak, then there is little upside with him.

My hope is we get the match between Lesnar & Gunther, if it’s a trilogy even better, Gunther’s in his peak and generally booked super strong ignoring the pathetic incident at WM this year & I feel like we need to use Lesnar to sell Gunther as the next big thing / machine.

That’s assuming Lesnar is sticking around for a while! They really need to make the most of him while he’s available because he doesn’t need the cash & can leave any second, he loves this business contrary to popular belief and honestly, there’s nobody out there quiet like him.
I'd rather like Cena vs AJ and Drew in the remaining matches he has left. Lesnar got the heat and it solidified him as the biggest monster again (within a span of a match). What remains to be seen is what they do with it. Vince used the heat generated by Brock beating Taker and Cena to fuel the next 5 years of having Lesnar being the biggest thing on WWE.
How Gunther Lesnar gets booked remains to be seen as both are heels. I don't see Brock turning face soon. Gunther maybe? but that doesn't fit his character. As much as anything, Gunther the character is the most natural tweener in current day and age.
 
All that work Drew put in to build himself and Vince put in as well to build him as a main eventer and pretty much co face of the company alongside Roman couple years ago is being undone by doofus “tkhoe” levesque… he has pretty much turned him into Dolph Ziggler - “it should’ve been me” with such awful booking

Hope tkhoe is enjoying being pegged by his favorite “The Visionary” 🤡
 
I see what you mean, but just this weekend we saw an epic super-fight between Crawford / Canelo, when Lesnar competes he gives us these super-fights in the wrestling world & brings realism into sports entertainment, some matches don’t need to be epic because you don’t get anything out of them after that, Cena getting pummelled was believable , it got people real worked up & sets up the rematch nicely or maybe War Games at Survivor Series Cena can get one over Lesnar. And Lesnar needed this to, coming back after a while, he’s a box-office attraction and if he’s booked too weak, then there is little upside with him.

My hope is we get the match between Lesnar & Gunther, if it’s a trilogy even better, Gunther’s in his peak and generally booked super strong ignoring the pathetic incident at WM this year & I feel like we need to use Lesnar to sell Gunther as the next big thing / machine.

That’s assuming Lesnar is sticking around for a while! They really need to make the most of him while he’s available because he doesn’t need the cash & can leave any second, he loves this business contrary to popular belief and honestly, there’s nobody out there quiet like him.
All that work Drew put in to build himself and Vince put in as well to build him as a main eventer and pretty much co face of the company alongside Roman couple years ago is being undone by doofus “tkhoe” levesque… he has pretty much turned him into Dolph Ziggler - “it should’ve been me” with such awful booking

Hope tkhoe is enjoying being pegged by his favorite “The Visionary” 🤡
I'd rather like Cena vs AJ and Drew in the remaining matches he has left. Lesnar got the heat and it solidified him as the biggest monster again (within a span of a match). What remains to be seen is what they do with it. Vince used the heat generated by Brock beating Taker and Cena to fuel the next 5 years of having Lesnar being the biggest thing on WWE.
How Gunther Lesnar gets booked remains to be seen as both are heels. I don't see Brock turning face soon. Gunther maybe? but that doesn't fit his character. As much as anything, Gunther the character is the most natural tweener in current day and age.
I'll give you guys my honest take on wrestle palooza. Overall it was a medicore event.

1) Brock vs Cena: I actually like this cause just like taker vs Brock at mania no one expected Cena to lose. Everyone at reddit was like

This time Cena will win. The idea was that Brock would dominate Cena like he always does but cena would pull some extreme rules or night of champions miracle where he wins by hitting Lesnar with 7+ AA's.

So I actually like that Lesnar surprises us all yet again and pulls in another shocker.

However my issue is, does that mean that Cena is just ending his retirement tour with Brock? Aka a rematch at Crown Jewel?

2) Cody vs Drew: Horrible Match. It was boring, Predictable, and I have no issues with it other then the fact that it's the main event?

Like why was this the main event? It would have made sense if it was the 1st match?

3) Stephanie vs Iyo Sky: A top tier match by 2 godly performers, no surprises here.

4) Punk and Lee vs Rollins and Stephaine: Good storyline, but a horrible match. The match wasnt good at all.

5) Visions vs Uso's: crap match, the uso botches were pathetic and what was the point of LA Knight being a referee? It led to nowhere and had no storyline purpose?
 
I'll give you guys my honest take on wrestle palooza. Overall it was a medicore event.

1) Brock vs Cena: I actually like this cause just like taker vs Brock at mania no one expected Cena to lose. Everyone at reddit was like

This time Cena will win. The idea was that Brock would dominate Cena like he always does but cena would pull some extreme rules or night of champions miracle where he wins by hitting Lesnar with 7+ AA's.

So I actually like that Lesnar surprises us all yet again and pulls in another shocker.

However my issue is, does that mean that Cena is just ending his retirement tour with Brock? Aka a rematch at Crown Jewel?

2) Cody vs Drew: Horrible Match. It was boring, Predictable, and I have no issues with it other then the fact that it's the main event?

Like why was this the main event? It would have made sense if it was the 1st match?

3) Stephanie vs Iyo Sky: A top tier match by 2 godly performers, no surprises here.

4) Punk and Lee vs Rollins and Stephaine: Good storyline, but a horrible match. The match wasnt good at all.

5) Visions vs Uso's: crap match, the uso botches were pathetic and what was the point of LA Knight being a referee? It led to nowhere and had no storyline purpose?
I’m tired of the whole “we will let Lesnar win because no one expects it” trope. at this point he is expected to win every match as the Taker Streak slayer- and Cena is just as much in need of wins as the face again because up till his heel turn he himself was losing matches left and right for years… at this point makes his decision to turn heel legit as he seems to lose as the good guy unless it’s putting Clowngan Paul into the dumpster which even my 3 year old nephew can do.
 
I’m tired of the whole “we will let Lesnar win because no one expects it” trope. at this point he is expected to win every match as the Taker Streak slayer- and Cena is just as much in need of wins as the face again because up till his heel turn he himself was losing matches left and right for years… at this point makes his decision to turn heel legit as he seems to lose as the good guy unless it’s putting Clowngan Paul into the dumpster which even my 3 year old nephew can do.
The heel storyline isn't the fault of wwe. Cena stated that is he is allowing wwe to manage his retirement tour and he himself does not care which direction to go in.

The original plans were to actually make Cody Rhodes turn heel and fight baby face cena at mania where Cena would win against Rhodes cleanly until eventually losing it to Now a Baby face Cody Rhodes at Summerslam.

But the rock intervened. The original heel storyline was going to feature the rock heavily with Cena mostly acting as a Mercenary.

Due to rock's absence they had to invent a brand new storyline where cena is just a crybaby hating his fans for being toxic and then because the storyline was so crap, Wwe decided to cancel it outright.

In the rock's absence they should have just had Cena turn Heel until Mania before turning face again and explain that the reason Cena turned Heel was cause he lost so much and was desperate for a win.

And now that hes got the win, he no longer minds losing it cleanly.
 
Who is your wrestling goat? Mine is Kurt angle. Best in ring performer ever, great in character work, could go from goofy nerd everyone makes fun of, to wrestling machine in a moment's notice. Grappling matches with the likes of Benoit, high flying matches with Rey, or straight up power matches with monsters like Brock, comfortable in everything. Basically the only guy who can go from beating the hell out of Lesnar in one week, to getting shat on by Rey Mysterio the next, and make them look both believable
 
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