The Wrestling Discussion Thread

[RedwoodOriginal]

Just like that, Andrade’s suddenly box-office no thanks to the turd booker.

P.S I think Andrade would whoop MJF for real lol Not sure if this is a work or if they will actually wrestle but I’d love to see it in Mexico.

I think Andrade definitely has some issues. It's one thing to leave AEW on bad terms, but lightening rarely strikes twice. I read somewhere that he failed a wellness test, no-showed the Paris PLE, and stopped responding to them when they asked. It's a shame because he's a talented guy.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

@shaz619 @RedwoodOriginal

 

[shaz619]

@shaz619 @RedwoodOriginal

He thinks he’s Ric Flair, just Nooooo!

 

[shaz619]

Fun trivia,

The second Pakistani to ever work for WWE, I’ve had my eye on her for a while, she’s pretty entertaining:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1968722938838082020

 

[shaz619]

I think Andrade definitely has some issues. It's one thing to leave AEW on bad terms, but lightening rarely strikes twice. I read somewhere that he failed a wellness test, no-showed the Paris PLE, and stopped responding to them when they asked. It's a shame because he's a talented guy.

He flipped off the gringo H and worked much better with Vince.

Both TK & H are not the best bookers either tbh can’t manage people with issues so let them go.

Andrade came motivated to the WWE and he hasn’t been given anything remotely interesting.

This NXT homecoming show was funny, H thought he could come out for an ego boost but it reminded me of all the people he couldn’t get over on the main-roster

 

[Suleiman]

Every storyline seems like a joke rn, la knight and jey story is getting more interesting that’s it. Roman the ATG literally having to feud a shoe thief

Just need someone with more creativity who instead of pushing his favorite jobbers ahead of those more deserving also knows how to book more than just triple threats, and matches with interruptions to maintain 2-3 year long title reign… is this too much to ask for from wwe?

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Fun trivia,

The second Pakistani to ever work for WWE, I’ve had my eye on her for a while, she’s pretty entertaining:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1968722938838082020

Who is she? What's her name?

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Every storyline seems like a joke rn, la knight and jey story is getting more interesting that’s it. Roman the ATG literally having to feud a shoe thief

Just need someone with more creativity who instead of pushing his favorite jobbers ahead of those more deserving also knows how to book more than just triple threats, and matches with interruptions to maintain 2-3 year long title reign… is this too much to ask for from wwe?

Only if you forget the fact that they have been beating LA Knight like a government mule for the past two months. I honestly can't remember the last time he won a singles match. Bron Breakker has beaten him twice and even Bronson Reed got a win over him. Add to that a bunch of tag losses.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

@shaz619 @RedwoodOriginal

H trying to copy Flair is like a monkey trying to do long division @shaz619

 

[Suleiman]

Only if you forget the fact that they have been beating LA Knight like a government mule for the past two months. I honestly can't remember the last time he won a singles match. Bron Breakker has beaten him twice and even Bronson Reed got a win over him. Add to that a bunch of tag losses.

Oh yeah, that too. But I’ve been saying it for so long for what feels like years that I sadly have gotten used to LA knight being treated like this… this is like prime rock, Cena or Austin being forced to job in their best years.

He has more talent in his pinky than triple stinky’s entire existence

 

[shaz619]

Who is she? What's her name?

Ariana Grace, Santino Marella’s daughter who married a Pakistani, I didn’t know this until a few years ago lol She’s a second gen talent, can you believe that, a Pakistani bah gawd

 

[Rajdeep]

LOL Lesnar just destroyed Cena. Such a boring match though.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

 

[sweep_shot]

Iconic duo.

Brings back memories of year 2002.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

I kinda liked Cena Lesnar match. Reinstated him as the biggest threat in WWE after losing a bit too frequently in his last run to Roman and Cody (understandable) and that weirdly booked feud with Lashley. As a face, Lesnar had to sell a lot for his opponents. Hopefully he gets to go on a dominant run again and only puts over when needed. Another thing I saw was just one suplex in the match. And Lesnar used kicks, clotheslines etc after a long time.
And seeing how the match was booked, it makes it pretty clear it wasn't Cena who asked for it.
But then again, Lesnar adds much needed adrenaline to WWE it's been lacking.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

The Usos vs Brons match in the ending stretch felt so uncoordinated, defeated the whole wrestling psychology logic.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

They made Drew look like a chump in this match. Atrocious booking. This didn't feel like a mainevent match at all.
Cody Drew is a potentially Mania mainevent.

 

[Suleiman]

Awful event, as expected. pathetic booking. Been following less and less lately

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Awful event, as expected. pathetic booking. Been following less and less lately

same

 

[Suleiman]

Side note (yes still upset about him losing, I mean wth)

Pretty responsible answer by him even though I don’t agree with his decision. Raising children is a job on its own and one where the dad and the mom have to give their 100%, he knows he can’t give that 100% alongside his career so holding off for now.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Side note (yes still upset about him losing, I mean wth)

Pretty responsible answer by him even though I don’t agree with his decision. Raising children is a job on its own and one where the dad and the mom have to give their 100%, he knows he can’t give that 100% alongside his career so holding off for now.

he's almost 50. Raising children is a physically and mentally demanding job,If he couldn't raise a child in his 30s, I don't see him making an effort as a 60 year old either. If he were to have a children, he'd have one by now. Don't think he's changing his decision. He may well just be content with being a cool uncle.

 

[mominsaigol]

I kinda liked Cena Lesnar match. Reinstated him as the biggest threat in WWE after losing a bit too frequently in his last run to Roman and Cody (understandable) and that weirdly booked feud with Lashley. As a face, Lesnar had to sell a lot for his opponents. Hopefully he gets to go on a dominant run again and only puts over when needed. Another thing I saw was just one suplex in the match. And Lesnar used kicks, clotheslines etc after a long time.
And seeing how the match was booked, it makes it pretty clear it wasn't Cena who asked for it.
But then again, Lesnar adds much needed adrenaline to WWE it's been lacking.

Infinite F5 Spam

 

[shaz619]

I didn’t mind Cena/Lesnar because Lesnar got real heat which no one can generate these days, less is more, and you will remember this match and what happened, I am interested to see what they do with the heat. This match was likely produced by Heyman.

AJ/Punk vs the two Kusreh was ok but come on, men/women should never exchange blows, how on earth did Becky takedown someone with MMA training, did Sports Illustrated rate her unknown MMA capabilities as well? I bet H enjoyed that match a lot more then everyone else and got excited over the pedigrees.

Best match of the night was Sky vs Stephanie & it looked to me like the matches Shawn has produced - he is close to Stephanie & she has been willing to stand up for herself as well - H even tried taking away her cool theme the nonce, the latter is a star & lets be real, she’s only getting this long overdue push because Naomi got injured, otherwise H took her from Shawn because he couldn’t take how over she was in NXT.

Main-event was fine & Drew works so dman hard, it’s soul destroying to see him come short, he should be pushed harder then that clown Seth.

 

[Kianig89]

Wrestleplooza not lived upto hype , lesnar v Cena was one way traffic. Infact I found on YouTube, old triple threat match of Rock Undertaker and Kurt Angle Vengeance 02 more thrilling and gripping .

 

[shaz619]

Wrestleplooza not lived upto hype , lesnar v Cena was one way traffic. Infact I found on YouTube, old triple threat match of Rock Undertaker and Kurt Angle Vengeance 02 more thrilling and gripping .

I see what you mean, but just this weekend we saw an epic super-fight between Crawford / Canelo, when Lesnar competes he gives us these super-fights in the wrestling world & brings realism into sports entertainment, some matches don’t need to be epic because you don’t get anything out of them after that, Cena getting pummelled was believable , it got people real worked up & sets up the rematch nicely or maybe War Games at Survivor Series Cena can get one over Lesnar. And Lesnar needed this to, coming back after a while, he’s a box-office attraction and if he’s booked too weak, then there is little upside with him.

My hope is we get the match between Lesnar & Gunther, if it’s a trilogy even better, Gunther’s in his peak and generally booked super strong ignoring the pathetic incident at WM this year & I feel like we need to use Lesnar to sell Gunther as the next big thing / machine.

That’s assuming Lesnar is sticking around for a while! They really need to make the most of him while he’s available because he doesn’t need the cash & can leave any second, he loves this business contrary to popular belief and honestly, there’s nobody out there quiet like him.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

I see what you mean, but just this weekend we saw an epic super-fight between Crawford / Canelo, when Lesnar competes he gives us these super-fights in the wrestling world & brings realism into sports entertainment, some matches don’t need to be epic because you don’t get anything out of them after that, Cena getting pummelled was believable , it got people real worked up & sets up the rematch nicely or maybe War Games at Survivor Series Cena can get one over Lesnar. And Lesnar needed this to, coming back after a while, he’s a box-office attraction and if he’s booked too weak, then there is little upside with him.

My hope is we get the match between Lesnar & Gunther, if it’s a trilogy even better, Gunther’s in his peak and generally booked super strong ignoring the pathetic incident at WM this year & I feel like we need to use Lesnar to sell Gunther as the next big thing / machine.

That’s assuming Lesnar is sticking around for a while! They really need to make the most of him while he’s available because he doesn’t need the cash & can leave any second, he loves this business contrary to popular belief and honestly, there’s nobody out there quiet like him.

I'd rather like Cena vs AJ and Drew in the remaining matches he has left. Lesnar got the heat and it solidified him as the biggest monster again (within a span of a match). What remains to be seen is what they do with it. Vince used the heat generated by Brock beating Taker and Cena to fuel the next 5 years of having Lesnar being the biggest thing on WWE.
How Gunther Lesnar gets booked remains to be seen as both are heels. I don't see Brock turning face soon. Gunther maybe? but that doesn't fit his character. As much as anything, Gunther the character is the most natural tweener in current day and age.

 

[Suleiman]

All that work Drew put in to build himself and Vince put in as well to build him as a main eventer and pretty much co face of the company alongside Roman couple years ago is being undone by doofus “tkhoe” levesque… he has pretty much turned him into Dolph Ziggler - “it should’ve been me” with such awful booking

Hope tkhoe is enjoying being pegged by his favorite “The Visionary”

 

[mominsaigol]

I see what you mean, but just this weekend we saw an epic super-fight between Crawford / Canelo, when Lesnar competes he gives us these super-fights in the wrestling world & brings realism into sports entertainment, some matches don’t need to be epic because you don’t get anything out of them after that, Cena getting pummelled was believable , it got people real worked up & sets up the rematch nicely or maybe War Games at Survivor Series Cena can get one over Lesnar. And Lesnar needed this to, coming back after a while, he’s a box-office attraction and if he’s booked too weak, then there is little upside with him.

My hope is we get the match between Lesnar & Gunther, if it’s a trilogy even better, Gunther’s in his peak and generally booked super strong ignoring the pathetic incident at WM this year & I feel like we need to use Lesnar to sell Gunther as the next big thing / machine.

That’s assuming Lesnar is sticking around for a while! They really need to make the most of him while he’s available because he doesn’t need the cash & can leave any second, he loves this business contrary to popular belief and honestly, there’s nobody out there quiet like him.

All that work Drew put in to build himself and Vince put in as well to build him as a main eventer and pretty much co face of the company alongside Roman couple years ago is being undone by doofus “tkhoe” levesque… he has pretty much turned him into Dolph Ziggler - “it should’ve been me” with such awful booking

Hope tkhoe is enjoying being pegged by his favorite “The Visionary”

I'd rather like Cena vs AJ and Drew in the remaining matches he has left. Lesnar got the heat and it solidified him as the biggest monster again (within a span of a match). What remains to be seen is what they do with it. Vince used the heat generated by Brock beating Taker and Cena to fuel the next 5 years of having Lesnar being the biggest thing on WWE.
How Gunther Lesnar gets booked remains to be seen as both are heels. I don't see Brock turning face soon. Gunther maybe? but that doesn't fit his character. As much as anything, Gunther the character is the most natural tweener in current day and age.

I'll give you guys my honest take on wrestle palooza. Overall it was a medicore event.

1) Brock vs Cena: I actually like this cause just like taker vs Brock at mania no one expected Cena to lose. Everyone at reddit was like

This time Cena will win. The idea was that Brock would dominate Cena like he always does but cena would pull some extreme rules or night of champions miracle where he wins by hitting Lesnar with 7+ AA's.

So I actually like that Lesnar surprises us all yet again and pulls in another shocker.

However my issue is, does that mean that Cena is just ending his retirement tour with Brock? Aka a rematch at Crown Jewel?

2) Cody vs Drew: Horrible Match. It was boring, Predictable, and I have no issues with it other then the fact that it's the main event?

Like why was this the main event? It would have made sense if it was the 1st match?

3) Stephanie vs Iyo Sky: A top tier match by 2 godly performers, no surprises here.

4) Punk and Lee vs Rollins and Stephaine: Good storyline, but a horrible match. The match wasnt good at all.

5) Visions vs Uso's: crap match, the uso botches were pathetic and what was the point of LA Knight being a referee? It led to nowhere and had no storyline purpose?

 

[Suleiman]

I'll give you guys my honest take on wrestle palooza. Overall it was a medicore event.

1) Brock vs Cena: I actually like this cause just like taker vs Brock at mania no one expected Cena to lose. Everyone at reddit was like

This time Cena will win. The idea was that Brock would dominate Cena like he always does but cena would pull some extreme rules or night of champions miracle where he wins by hitting Lesnar with 7+ AA's.

So I actually like that Lesnar surprises us all yet again and pulls in another shocker.

However my issue is, does that mean that Cena is just ending his retirement tour with Brock? Aka a rematch at Crown Jewel?

2) Cody vs Drew: Horrible Match. It was boring, Predictable, and I have no issues with it other then the fact that it's the main event?

Like why was this the main event? It would have made sense if it was the 1st match?

3) Stephanie vs Iyo Sky: A top tier match by 2 godly performers, no surprises here.

4) Punk and Lee vs Rollins and Stephaine: Good storyline, but a horrible match. The match wasnt good at all.

5) Visions vs Uso's: crap match, the uso botches were pathetic and what was the point of LA Knight being a referee? It led to nowhere and had no storyline purpose?

I’m tired of the whole “we will let Lesnar win because no one expects it” trope. at this point he is expected to win every match as the Taker Streak slayer- and Cena is just as much in need of wins as the face again because up till his heel turn he himself was losing matches left and right for years… at this point makes his decision to turn heel legit as he seems to lose as the good guy unless it’s putting Clowngan Paul into the dumpster which even my 3 year old nephew can do.

 

[mominsaigol]

I’m tired of the whole “we will let Lesnar win because no one expects it” trope. at this point he is expected to win every match as the Taker Streak slayer- and Cena is just as much in need of wins as the face again because up till his heel turn he himself was losing matches left and right for years… at this point makes his decision to turn heel legit as he seems to lose as the good guy unless it’s putting Clowngan Paul into the dumpster which even my 3 year old nephew can do.

The heel storyline isn't the fault of wwe. Cena stated that is he is allowing wwe to manage his retirement tour and he himself does not care which direction to go in.

The original plans were to actually make Cody Rhodes turn heel and fight baby face cena at mania where Cena would win against Rhodes cleanly until eventually losing it to Now a Baby face Cody Rhodes at Summerslam.

But the rock intervened. The original heel storyline was going to feature the rock heavily with Cena mostly acting as a Mercenary.

Due to rock's absence they had to invent a brand new storyline where cena is just a crybaby hating his fans for being toxic and then because the storyline was so crap, Wwe decided to cancel it outright.

In the rock's absence they should have just had Cena turn Heel until Mania before turning face again and explain that the reason Cena turned Heel was cause he lost so much and was desperate for a win.

And now that hes got the win, he no longer minds losing it cleanly.

 

[anikrc1]

Who is your wrestling goat? Mine is Kurt angle. Best in ring performer ever, great in character work, could go from goofy nerd everyone makes fun of, to wrestling machine in a moment's notice. Grappling matches with the likes of Benoit, high flying matches with Rey, or straight up power matches with monsters like Brock, comfortable in everything. Basically the only guy who can go from beating the hell out of Lesnar in one week, to getting shat on by Rey Mysterio the next, and make them look both believable

 

[Rafale Nidhal Fan]

Lesnar V Cena was absolute Cinema

 

[mominsaigol]

Lesnar V Cena was absolute Cinema

No it wasn't. Their rivalry has gotten boring now.

Unlike cena vs Randy or Cena vs Edge which is constant back and forth, This entire rivalry has been brock smacking the day lights out of cena.

Their best match was at Extreme Rules 2012 where you let Super Cena win but allowed Brock to dominate for 95% of the match.

The rest have been boring. Their 2003-2004 matches were one sided.

Summerslam 2014 was Their 2nd best match where Brock deserved the win and Cena deserved to get squashed.

Night of champions shouldn't have been a DQ. Let Brock win with extreme difficulty. Its the only match where both cena and Brock had an even fight and Brock deserved to win with difficulty. It would have added respect to cena as well showing that hes no longer just a brock jobber.

Wrestlepalooza was by far their worst match yet. Other then the shock factor, it's another cena beatdown and completly ruins what was established at Night of Champions 10 years ago

 

[shaz619]

Side note (yes still upset about him losing, I mean wth)

Pretty responsible answer by him even though I don’t agree with his decision. Raising children is a job on its own and one where the dad and the mom have to give their 100%, he knows he can’t give that 100% alongside his career so holding off for now.

Cena also takes care of his entire extended family and their kids, I know Total Divas was a joke but there was some realism partially, he’d talk about how his brother or cousin or somebody was expecting & he needs to support them.

The guy is truly one off a kind.

He has seen what the wrestling business has done to kids and didn’t want to put his own kids through the same.

Having said that, nobody would have experienced the lows which Charlotte Flair had to go through, literally growing up without a Father; but she turned out ok & it’s one of the best stories in wrestling history that after everything, Ric still has his daughter and Charlotte has her father, and not only that, Charlotte ended up being the greatest women’s wrestler in history.

 

[shaz619]

No it wasn't. Their rivalry has gotten boring now.

Unlike cena vs Randy or Cena vs Edge which is constant back and forth, This entire rivalry has been brock smacking the day lights out of cena.

Their best match was at Extreme Rules 2012 where you let Super Cena win but allowed Brock to dominate for 95% of the match.

The rest have been boring. Their 2003-2004 matches were one sided.

Summerslam 2014 was Their 2nd best match where Brock deserved the win and Cena deserved to get squashed.

Night of champions shouldn't have been a DQ. Let Brock win with extreme difficulty. Its the only match where both cena and Brock had an even fight and Brock deserved to win with difficulty. It would have added respect to cena as well showing that hes no longer just a brock jobber.

Wrestlepalooza was by far their worst match yet. Other then the shock factor, it's another cena beatdown and completly ruins what was established at Night of Champions 10 years ago

For me they had much better matches during the RA era.

I thought Cena beating Lesnar and no selling afterwards at Extreme Rules was a complete joke & insult to the wrestling business, like how on earth is it believable that Cena could beat a Lesnae fresh of his UFC run? And to make matters worse, they had Lesnar job to the ego maniac / insecure Triple H. In those gimmick matches with the bells & whistles I don’t mind Lesnar losing if it made sense, but I think I’d have only taken his opponents being competitive in those matches, bit like when Punk faced him at SS; that was an epic match and the right guy won.

To recover from these shocking booking decisions, Lesnar had to go over Taker to be the box-office draw we needed him to be for an entire decade. There’s a possibility that he wouldn’t have had to end Taker’s streak if Lesnar was booked strong to begin with.

 

[shaz619]

Who is your wrestling goat? Mine is Kurt angle. Best in ring performer ever, great in character work, could go from goofy nerd everyone makes fun of, to wrestling machine in a moment's notice. Grappling matches with the likes of Benoit, high flying matches with Rey, or straight up power matches with monsters like Brock, comfortable in everything. Basically the only guy who can go from beating the hell out of Lesnar in one week, to getting shat on by Rey Mysterio the next, and make them look both believable

Anybody who has Kurt Angle as their GOAT knows what it’s all about and I an glad someone has said that, because my GOAT is Shawn, and both he & Angle put on the greatest match of all time at WM 21.

 

[shaz619]

Lesnar V Cena was absolute Cinema

- People are talking about it
- A heel got heat for once and made kids cry
- The match bought realism back into the WWE
- Less is more and I remember everything that happened in the match
- Cena can still get his comeback if the booking is clever whilst protecting Lesnar in the War Games match, but I I doubt that due to H’s small brain.
- Lesnar should be kept strong until he’s dethroned by Gunther who should then be as invincible as Lesnar was/is, but when he is made to tap by a silly booker, then I doubt this to @Suleiman

 

[mominsaigol]

For me they had much better matches during the RA era.

I thought Cena beating Lesnar and no selling afterwards at Extreme Rules was a complete joke & insult to the wrestling business, like how on earth is it believable that Cena could beat a Lesnae fresh of his UFC run? And to make matters worse, they had Lesnar job to the ego maniac / insecure Triple H. In those gimmick matches with the bells & whistles I don’t mind Lesnar losing if it made sense, but I think I’d have only taken his opponents being competitive in those matches, bit like when Punk faced him at SS; that was an epic match and the right guy won.

To recover from these shocking booking decisions, Lesnar had to go over Taker to be the box-office draw we needed him to be for an entire decade. There’s a possibility that he wouldn’t have had to end Taker’s streak if Lesnar was booked strong to begin with.

I think wwe has realised that Cena has to end his career with Brock.

Rock is Awol, Edge is in AEW. Roman vs Cena was never a good feud, randy vs Cena already happened even if it ended in a medicore heel cena way. Punk vs Cena already happened.

Bron Breaker is not at that level of stardom despite fans claiming he is.

Cena already gave Cody the push and passed on the mantle so it makes no sense for him to end his career by pushing someone else over.

Its understood that Cody for the next 7-8 years is Cena's replacement.

Brock is the only logical choice to end his career aka conquer the one guy who he's never defeated in a clean normal singles fight.

Cena defeated Brock once(excluding dq) and even then storyline wise wwe played it off as a loss with the John laurinitis fued constantly reminding cena that he was made to look like a joke vs Brock.

 

[shaz619]

I think wwe has realised that Cena has to end his career with Brock.

Rock is Awol, Edge is in AEW. Roman vs Cena was never a good feud, randy vs Cena already happened even if it ended in a medicore heel cena way. Punk vs Cena already happened.

Bron Breaker is not at that level of stardom despite fans claiming he is.

Cena already gave Cody the push and passed on the mantle so it makes no sense for him to end his career by pushing someone else over.

Its understood that Cody for the next 7-8 years is Cena's replacement.

Brock is the only logical choice to end his career aka conquer the one guy who he's never defeated in a clean normal singles fight.

Cena defeated Brock once(excluding dq) and even then storyline wise wwe played it off as a loss with the John laurinitis fued constantly reminding cena that he was made to look like a joke vs Brock.

Bron is the next big thing and fans know it, not that he is already because this WWE set-up is crap at creating new stars, look what Vince did with Lesnar when he came up, within 6 months he became WWE Champion.

I think the way this regime is going, only Cody will be positioned to beat Lesnar clean, although I feel it should be Gunther.

Yeah this is the last old school name, I wish we still get Cena vs AJ but that’s looking unlikely unfortunately…..

 

[shaz619]

This was nice:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1969844398545600989

 

[shaz619]

ESPN itself is criticising H:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1970073601648021660

This has made my day @RedwoodOriginal @Suleiman

/10

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

 

[shaz619]

Becky is literally saving the cringe lord, she has been very entertaining & doing a great job being that OTT chicken sh!t heel.

They have given Seth the following now:

- WM main-event victory over Roman Reigns & CM Punk
- The World Heavyweight Championship
- Two upcoming future stars in the Bron Bron’s who should be doing much better than being Seth’s lackey’s
- Paul Heyman
- Becky Lynch

And still, he’s not the top guy they want him to be and that’s after a decade long push which I wont even get in to.

Seth is 10x worse then Diesel ever was, who still had ring presence & the IT factor, he just should never have been a goody two shoes baby face.

 

[mominsaigol]

Bron is the next big thing and fans know it, not that he is already because this WWE set-up is crap at creating new stars, look what Vince did with Lesnar when he came up, within 6 months he became WWE Champion.

I think the way this regime is going, only Cody will be positioned to beat Lesnar clean, although I feel it should be Gunther.

Yeah this is the last old school name, I wish we still get Cena vs AJ but that’s looking unlikely unfortunately…..

Cena vs Aj wont happen.

Cena performed finishing moves of Orton, Aj styles, Edge, Cm Punk, Roman Reigns and Kevin Owens.

Cena confirmed the reason he did so was because he knows that he won't be facing them again or not at all during his retirement tour.

 

[The_KING]

This was nice:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1969844398545600989

Tears in my eyes.

 

[The_KING]

Man, I am starting to hate Triple H for destroying WWE.

Wrestleplooza was a disaster. Did we really need Brock to destroy Cena in 2025? I understood when they did it in 2014, but does it really benefit either man in 2025? Cena only has a few dates left on his retirement run, and they wasted one of his final dates on him getting squashed by Lesnar.

Triple H is a complete idiot who has completely botched Cena's retirement run.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

@shaz619 Your opinion?

 

[shaz619]

@shaz619 Your opinion?

They are crocodile tears mate, notice how he was the last to clap, others were clapping before him. I don’t know why Stephanie keeps H around, I think she knows that she can do what she wants and H will always be there on her leash, Stephanie had a certain reputation back in the day (Ooooooooh Yeaaaaaaaah - some of you will get this if you’re an old fossil like me).

It’s nice to see Stephanie in the HOF and take a step away from how ruthless the corporate world was for her & made her that much more aggressive but she thrived man & was for sure one of the best heel female personalities ever, though I still think nobody will beat Sheri Martel as more of a traditional heel.

 

[The_KING]

Who is your wrestling goat? Mine is Kurt angle. Best in ring performer ever, great in character work, could go from goofy nerd everyone makes fun of, to wrestling machine in a moment's notice. Grappling matches with the likes of Benoit, high flying matches with Rey, or straight up power matches with monsters like Brock, comfortable in everything. Basically the only guy who can go from beating the hell out of Lesnar in one week, to getting shat on by Rey Mysterio the next, and make them look both believable

Mine is Stone Cold Steve Austin. Great gimmick, solid in-ring worker and great on the mic. He had such a short WWE career. He debuted in early 1996 and retired by March 2003. And in those 7 years, he missed a full year of action due to his neck injury, and he missed another 6-7 months because he walked out in 2002. So Stone Cold only had a WWE career that lasted for like 5 years and a bit, but in such a short time, he arguably made more impact than the majority of wrestlers will make in a career spanning 30-40 years. Without SCSA, WWE probably would have lost the Monday Night Wars, and the landscape of professional wrestling would be entirely different.

If we are talking from a pure in-ring point of view, then Bret Hart is the GOAT. His matches were a pure form of art.

 

[shaz619]

Man, I am starting to hate Triple H for destroying WWE.

Wrestleplooza was a disaster. Did we really need Brock to destroy Cena in 2025? I understood when they did it in 2014, but does it really benefit either man in 2025? Cena only has a few dates left on his retirement run, and they wasted one of his final dates on him getting squashed by Lesnar.

Triple H is a complete idiot who has completely botched Cena's retirement run.

I am fine with what they did, but the problem here is that H due to his zero IQ will not capitalise on all this heat, if I was the booker, I’d have Cena get his comeback at War Games and Lesnar would still be protected there as it’s multi-man match, H was always on auto-pilot in the ring when he had to lead a match & it’s the same here, he needs Shawn Michaels & Taker to save him like always…..

 

[The_KING]

Vince McMahon, during his entire run as the head of WWE, never inducted himself into the Hall of Fame, even though he deserved it more than anyone.

But Triple H first puts himself in the HOF and then his wife. This guy is taking nepotism to the next level.

Having said that, Stephanie McMahon deserves to be in the HOF. She was one of the greatest on-screen villains during the late 90s and early 2000s.

 

[shaz619]

Vince McMahon, during his entire run as the head of WWE, never inducted himself into the Hall of Fame, even though he deserved it more than anyone.

But Triple H first puts himself in the HOF and then his wife. This guy is taking nepotism to the next level.

Having said that, Stephanie McMahon deserves to be in the HOF. She was one of the greatest on-screen villains during the late 90s and early 2000s.

I bet you H must have a Pakistani rishtadar somewhere in his family tree, and him being a racist is pretty perfect to when you consider how our lot can be the biggest self haters.

Do we really need him shoved down our throats 24/7, god forbid if he was still wrestling; though he is living vicariously through his son Seth Rollins.

 

[The_KING]

I bet you H must have a Pakistani rishtadar somewhere in his family tree, and him being a racist is pretty perfect to when you consider how our lot can be the biggest self haters.

Do we really need him shoved down our throats 24/7, god forbid if he was still wrestling; though he is living vicariously through his son Seth Rollins.

It seems like Triple H is opening every PLE with a promo. We had enough of his god awful promos back in 2003. We don't need them in 2025.

And I hate how anytime someone wins a title, they have to take a picture with Triple H so he can post it on social media and take away some of their spotlight. He is trying so hard to stay relevant, it is absolutely pathetic.

Seth Rollins is a temu version of Triple H. Like Triple H, Seth Rollins isn't the greatest in-ring performer, he isn't the best on the mic, nor he is the most over with the crowd, yet he is featured as the absolute top star. But at least, Triple H wasn't known for injuring opponents. Seth Rollins is unsafe in the ring. I still hate him for injuring Sting. I was so excited to see Sting finally in WWE but his run was cut short because of idiot Seth Rollins.

 

[shaz619]

It seems like Triple H is opening every PLE with a promo. We had enough of his god awful promos back in 2003. We don't need them in 2025.

And I hate how anytime someone wins a title, they have to take a picture with Triple H so he can post it on social media and take away some of their spotlight. He is trying so hard to stay relevant, it is absolutely pathetic.

Seth Rollins is a temu version of Triple H. Like Triple H, Seth Rollins isn't the greatest in-ring performer, he isn't the best on the mic, nor he is the most over with the crowd, yet he is featured as the absolute top star. But at least, Triple H wasn't known for injuring opponents. Seth Rollins is unsafe in the ring. I still hate him for injuring Sting. I was so excited to see Sting finally in WWE but his run was cut short because of idiot Seth Rollins.

Seth has no ring presence at all, you’re right, as much as I despise H, you could sell him as champion even if he didn’t deserve it. Seth on the other hand is somebody who likely could get knocked out by a PPer, heck some fan tried to attack him and took him down, what a joke; Bill Watts would have fired a talent over something like that. Seth injured John Cena as well & got rewarded with a title shot.

 

[shaz619]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1970033794926395483

She is doing Seth’s gimmick better than him. Another low for the cringe lord.

 

[Suleiman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1970033794926395483

She is doing Seth’s gimmick better than him. Another low for the cringe lord.

Becky is the real visionary when it comes to the women division. Seth is a pretender who is where he is because of his father Paul.