The Wrestling Discussion Thread

[RedwoodOriginal]

Just like that, Andrade’s suddenly box-office no thanks to the turd booker.

P.S I think Andrade would whoop MJF for real lol Not sure if this is a work or if they will actually wrestle but I’d love to see it in Mexico.

I think Andrade definitely has some issues. It's one thing to leave AEW on bad terms, but lightening rarely strikes twice. I read somewhere that he failed a wellness test, no-showed the Paris PLE, and stopped responding to them when they asked. It's a shame because he's a talented guy.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

@shaz619 @RedwoodOriginal

 

[shaz619]

@shaz619 @RedwoodOriginal

He thinks he’s Ric Flair, just Nooooo!

 

[shaz619]

Fun trivia,

The second Pakistani to ever work for WWE, I’ve had my eye on her for a while, she’s pretty entertaining:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1968722938838082020

 

[shaz619]

I think Andrade definitely has some issues. It's one thing to leave AEW on bad terms, but lightening rarely strikes twice. I read somewhere that he failed a wellness test, no-showed the Paris PLE, and stopped responding to them when they asked. It's a shame because he's a talented guy.

He flipped off the gringo H and worked much better with Vince.

Both TK & H are not the best bookers either tbh can’t manage people with issues so let them go.

Andrade came motivated to the WWE and he hasn’t been given anything remotely interesting.

This NXT homecoming show was funny, H thought he could come out for an ego boost but it reminded me of all the people he couldn’t get over on the main-roster

 

[Suleiman]

Every storyline seems like a joke rn, la knight and jey story is getting more interesting that’s it. Roman the ATG literally having to feud a shoe thief

Just need someone with more creativity who instead of pushing his favorite jobbers ahead of those more deserving also knows how to book more than just triple threats, and matches with interruptions to maintain 2-3 year long title reign… is this too much to ask for from wwe?

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Fun trivia,

The second Pakistani to ever work for WWE, I’ve had my eye on her for a while, she’s pretty entertaining:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1968722938838082020

Who is she? What's her name?

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Every storyline seems like a joke rn, la knight and jey story is getting more interesting that’s it. Roman the ATG literally having to feud a shoe thief

Just need someone with more creativity who instead of pushing his favorite jobbers ahead of those more deserving also knows how to book more than just triple threats, and matches with interruptions to maintain 2-3 year long title reign… is this too much to ask for from wwe?

Only if you forget the fact that they have been beating LA Knight like a government mule for the past two months. I honestly can't remember the last time he won a singles match. Bron Breakker has beaten him twice and even Bronson Reed got a win over him. Add to that a bunch of tag losses.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

@shaz619 @RedwoodOriginal

H trying to copy Flair is like a monkey trying to do long division @shaz619

 

[Suleiman]

Only if you forget the fact that they have been beating LA Knight like a government mule for the past two months. I honestly can't remember the last time he won a singles match. Bron Breakker has beaten him twice and even Bronson Reed got a win over him. Add to that a bunch of tag losses.

Oh yeah, that too. But I’ve been saying it for so long for what feels like years that I sadly have gotten used to LA knight being treated like this… this is like prime rock, Cena or Austin being forced to job in their best years.

He has more talent in his pinky than triple stinky’s entire existence

 

[shaz619]

Who is she? What's her name?

Ariana Grace, Santino Marella’s daughter who married a Pakistani, I didn’t know this until a few years ago lol She’s a second gen talent, can you believe that, a Pakistani bah gawd

 

[Rajdeep]

LOL Lesnar just destroyed Cena. Such a boring match though.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

 

[sweep_shot]

Iconic duo.

Brings back memories of year 2002.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

I kinda liked Cena Lesnar match. Reinstated him as the biggest threat in WWE after losing a bit too frequently in his last run to Roman and Cody (understandable) and that weirdly booked feud with Lashley. As a face, Lesnar had to sell a lot for his opponents. Hopefully he gets to go on a dominant run again and only puts over when needed. Another thing I saw was just one suplex in the match. And Lesnar used kicks, clotheslines etc after a long time.
And seeing how the match was booked, it makes it pretty clear it wasn't Cena who asked for it.
But then again, Lesnar adds much needed adrenaline to WWE it's been lacking.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

The Usos vs Brons match in the ending stretch felt so uncoordinated, defeated the whole wrestling psychology logic.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

They made Drew look like a chump in this match. Atrocious booking. This didn't feel like a mainevent match at all.
Cody Drew is a potentially Mania mainevent.

 

[Suleiman]

Awful event, as expected. pathetic booking. Been following less and less lately

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Awful event, as expected. pathetic booking. Been following less and less lately

same

 

[Suleiman]

Side note (yes still upset about him losing, I mean wth)

Pretty responsible answer by him even though I don’t agree with his decision. Raising children is a job on its own and one where the dad and the mom have to give their 100%, he knows he can’t give that 100% alongside his career so holding off for now.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Side note (yes still upset about him losing, I mean wth)

Pretty responsible answer by him even though I don’t agree with his decision. Raising children is a job on its own and one where the dad and the mom have to give their 100%, he knows he can’t give that 100% alongside his career so holding off for now.

he's almost 50. Raising children is a physically and mentally demanding job,If he couldn't raise a child in his 30s, I don't see him making an effort as a 60 year old either. If he were to have a children, he'd have one by now. Don't think he's changing his decision. He may well just be content with being a cool uncle.

 

[mominsaigol]

I kinda liked Cena Lesnar match. Reinstated him as the biggest threat in WWE after losing a bit too frequently in his last run to Roman and Cody (understandable) and that weirdly booked feud with Lashley. As a face, Lesnar had to sell a lot for his opponents. Hopefully he gets to go on a dominant run again and only puts over when needed. Another thing I saw was just one suplex in the match. And Lesnar used kicks, clotheslines etc after a long time.
And seeing how the match was booked, it makes it pretty clear it wasn't Cena who asked for it.
But then again, Lesnar adds much needed adrenaline to WWE it's been lacking.

Infinite F5 Spam

 

[shaz619]

I didn’t mind Cena/Lesnar because Lesnar got real heat which no one can generate these days, less is more, and you will remember this match and what happened, I am interested to see what they do with the heat. This match was likely produced by Heyman.

AJ/Punk vs the two Kusreh was ok but come on, men/women should never exchange blows, how on earth did Becky takedown someone with MMA training, did Sports Illustrated rate her unknown MMA capabilities as well? I bet H enjoyed that match a lot more then everyone else and got excited over the pedigrees.

Best match of the night was Sky vs Stephanie & it looked to me like the matches Shawn has produced - he is close to Stephanie & she has been willing to stand up for herself as well - H even tried taking away her cool theme the nonce, the latter is a star & lets be real, she’s only getting this long overdue push because Naomi got injured, otherwise H took her from Shawn because he couldn’t take how over she was in NXT.

Main-event was fine & Drew works so dman hard, it’s soul destroying to see him come short, he should be pushed harder then that clown Seth.

 

[Kianig89]

Wrestleplooza not lived upto hype , lesnar v Cena was one way traffic. Infact I found on YouTube, old triple threat match of Rock Undertaker and Kurt Angle Vengeance 02 more thrilling and gripping .

 

[shaz619]

Wrestleplooza not lived upto hype , lesnar v Cena was one way traffic. Infact I found on YouTube, old triple threat match of Rock Undertaker and Kurt Angle Vengeance 02 more thrilling and gripping .

I see what you mean, but just this weekend we saw an epic super-fight between Crawford / Canelo, when Lesnar competes he gives us these super-fights in the wrestling world & brings realism into sports entertainment, some matches don’t need to be epic because you don’t get anything out of them after that, Cena getting pummelled was believable , it got people real worked up & sets up the rematch nicely or maybe War Games at Survivor Series Cena can get one over Lesnar. And Lesnar needed this to, coming back after a while, he’s a box-office attraction and if he’s booked too weak, then there is little upside with him.

My hope is we get the match between Lesnar & Gunther, if it’s a trilogy even better, Gunther’s in his peak and generally booked super strong ignoring the pathetic incident at WM this year & I feel like we need to use Lesnar to sell Gunther as the next big thing / machine.

That’s assuming Lesnar is sticking around for a while! They really need to make the most of him while he’s available because he doesn’t need the cash & can leave any second, he loves this business contrary to popular belief and honestly, there’s nobody out there quiet like him.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

I see what you mean, but just this weekend we saw an epic super-fight between Crawford / Canelo, when Lesnar competes he gives us these super-fights in the wrestling world & brings realism into sports entertainment, some matches don’t need to be epic because you don’t get anything out of them after that, Cena getting pummelled was believable , it got people real worked up & sets up the rematch nicely or maybe War Games at Survivor Series Cena can get one over Lesnar. And Lesnar needed this to, coming back after a while, he’s a box-office attraction and if he’s booked too weak, then there is little upside with him.

My hope is we get the match between Lesnar & Gunther, if it’s a trilogy even better, Gunther’s in his peak and generally booked super strong ignoring the pathetic incident at WM this year & I feel like we need to use Lesnar to sell Gunther as the next big thing / machine.

That’s assuming Lesnar is sticking around for a while! They really need to make the most of him while he’s available because he doesn’t need the cash & can leave any second, he loves this business contrary to popular belief and honestly, there’s nobody out there quiet like him.

I'd rather like Cena vs AJ and Drew in the remaining matches he has left. Lesnar got the heat and it solidified him as the biggest monster again (within a span of a match). What remains to be seen is what they do with it. Vince used the heat generated by Brock beating Taker and Cena to fuel the next 5 years of having Lesnar being the biggest thing on WWE.
How Gunther Lesnar gets booked remains to be seen as both are heels. I don't see Brock turning face soon. Gunther maybe? but that doesn't fit his character. As much as anything, Gunther the character is the most natural tweener in current day and age.