This is how bad Pakistan's T20 middle order is since 1/1/2021

[W63L35]

Batting positions: 4, 5 and 6.
Main Teams only.
Since 1/1/2021....

Lowest batting average - lower than Zim, AFG, BD..
S/R higher than only 2 teams.

 

[Ab Fan]

Can you share the link? I would like to play around a bit with that. Btw, Zimbabwe can easily be removed.

 

[zacattakk]

Thats pretty much what I would have expected. Interesting though how close we are to Australia's numbers which are pretty poor too.

 

[Bilal7]

Thats pretty much what I would have expected. Interesting though how close we are to Australia's numbers which are pretty poor too.

Australia have a gun #3 though, which more than makes up for their out-of-form middle order. Pakistan doesn't have a #3 in Fakhar absence either.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Batting positions: 4, 5 and 6.
Main Teams only.
Since 1/1/2021....

Lowest batting average - lower than Zim, AFG, BD..
S/R higher than only 2 teams.

Welcome back.

You could argue that we could have tested our middle order against in an inconsequential match against Bangladesh by resting Babar and Rizwan.

But we don't want to do that.

But we want to develop our middle order by asking them every 1 in 3 games to hit 50 off 20 balls and win the match.

 

[daytrader]

Welcome back.

You could argue that we could have tested our middle order against in an inconsequential match against Bangladesh by resting Babar and Rizwan.

But we don't want to do that.

But we want to develop our middle order by asking them every 1 in 3 games to hit 50 off 20 balls and win the match.

Which matches is this happening in?

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Which matches is this happening in?

Nawaz batted at a SR of 225 today to save your hero.

Fakhar batted at a SR of 171 to take Pakistan to 175+ in World Cup semifinal to make a match of it, after Rizwan batted at 120.

The point is, not whether the middle order succeeds or not.

But it is being asked to play at RR of 10 an over.

 

[daytrader]

Nawaz batted at a SR of 225 today to save your hero.

Fakhar batted at a SR of 171 to take Pakistan to 175+ in World Cup semifinal to make a match of it, after Rizwan batted at 120.

The point is, not whether the middle order succeeds or not.

But it is being asked to play at RR of 10 an over.

That was the role given to Nawaz and he executed it beautifully. Same goes for Rizwan, he did his job and at no point did we need 50 from 20.

 

[Rana]

That was the role given to Nawaz and he executed it beautifully. Same goes for Rizwan, he did his job and at no point did we need 50 from 20.

We needed 70 off 30 in the Asia cup final with Rizwan at the crease

We all know what he is capable of!

 

[Dr_Bassim]

That was the role given to Nawaz and he executed it beautifully. Same goes for Rizwan, he did his job and at no point did we need 50 from 20.

The point was metaphorical.

It was 72 off 42 balls when Nawaz came in.

Today he fired.

Tomorrow he might not.

The openers came with RR at 8.7 and left with RR at 10.3

The job of openers - stay safe and don't worry.

job of middle order - perform or get out.

 

[daytrader]

We needed 70 off 30 in the Asia cup final with Rizwan at the crease

We all know what he is capable of!

In that game after 10 overs we were 68/2. Sri Lanka were 67/5 and added 103 in the next 10. We had a chance.

Today, Bangladesh added 90 in the last 10.

This is the standard. No matter what the start, middle order needs to be good enough to add a 100ish in 10.

 

[Mainul]

Pakistan should be ever grateful to Babar and Rizwan. They are 2 men army. It's rare that both fails at a time. Otherwise Pakistani batting nothing better than Bangladesh .

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Always knew their middle order is the problem but genuine Pakistani fans like Dr Basim, Rana who want their team to improve and fake pretendersab) who want Babar/Rizwan to fail in every inning were targeting the openers only. Watch the last 2 matches of Pakistan for a start.

And good to see the original statistician of PakPassion back. This is like Brat Wyatt returning to WWE with his lantern.

 

[Zaz]

And whats difficult about that

Its not difficult when you have 8 wkts in hand and a flat wkt to score at 10 an over for 6-7 overs

Any half decent middle order would lap that up every game

 

[proud_pakistani]

And yet they are doing nothing to fix this.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Always knew their middle order is the problem but genuine Pakistani fans like Dr Basim, Rana who want their team to improve and fake pretendersab) who want Babar/Rizwan to fail in every inning were targeting the openers only. Watch the last 2 matches of Pakistan for a start.

And good to see the original statistician of PakPassion back. This is like Brat Wyatt returning to WWE with his lantern.

If there’s a problem with the middle order then Babar has all the power to rectify it, but he chooses not to. He could easily bring in Sharjeel, Umar, Malik etc.

Also, it doesn’t make sense for Babar and Rizwan to play cautiously for 15 overs because they don’t trust their middle order but then expect the same middle order to score 60+ of the last 5.

 

[Energy]

In that game after 10 overs we were 68/2. Sri Lanka were 67/5 and added 103 in the next 10. We had a chance.

Today, Bangladesh added 90 in the last 10.

This is the standard. No matter what the start, middle order needs to be good enough to add a 100ish in 10.

Again, you're talking way too sensible for him to decipher.

 

[Mamoon]

Rizwan was part of this flop middle-order before Misbah saved his career by opening with him.

The terrible output of the middle-order does not change the fact that the Pakistani openers have the easiest job in the format. The only opening pair in the format that is allowed to nudge the ball around for 15 overs without accountability.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

And whats difficult about that

Its not difficult when you have 8 wkts in hand and a flat wkt to score at 10 an over for 6-7 overs

Any half decent middle order would lap that up every game

Not Pakistani

Whenever Pakistani openers, especially Babar tries to up the tempo and gets out... we collapse like headless chickens. These same openers in an Eng/Ind/Aus team would be lethal.

Pakistani management is more than happy for a 42/0 (after 6 overs) and 75/0 (after 10 overs).

This system can win odd games but Pakistani middle order will have to unleash themselves after 15th over to chase or set a competitive total.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Another thread where people are making excuses for the middle-order.

Another thread where they want the openers removed.

The middle-order is so trash, people have moved on from criticizing them even.

 

[Xoib]

The point was metaphorical.

It was 72 off 42 balls when Nawaz came in.

Today he fired.

Tomorrow he might not.

The openers came with RR at 8.7 and left with RR at 10.3

The job of openers - stay safe and don't worry.

job of middle order - perform or get out.

This s the way Lois have been played for last 50 years middle to later order come in with a higher RPO then what it is initially needed 8 times out of 10, nothing out of ordinary is being expected of them.

 

[shariqnoor]

Batting positions: 4, 5 and 6.
Main Teams only.
Since 1/1/2021....

Lowest batting average - lower than Zim, AFG, BD..
S/R higher than only 2 teams.

So we've been hearing that the middle order doesn't get enough balls to face. But South Africa and NZ with almost the same amount of deliveries played have scored at 145/132 at an average of 32 and 25 respectively.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

One of the most sub par middle orders I have seen in a long time. I thought Misbah, Hafeez and Umar Akmal were bad but this sorry lot make them look like rockstars.

 

[W63L35]

Can you share the link? I would like to play around a bit with that. Btw, Zimbabwe can easily be removed.

Here you go... I missed Sri Lanka in opposition list

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...7;team=8;team=9;template=results;type=batting

 

[srh]

Openers lost Pakistan this match, it is the middle order which is winning this match for Pakistan. Current openers are the worst openers you can pick for T20

 

[Ab Fan]

Yes, Pakistan's middle order is one of the worst as per this list.

While the openers have an average of 45 at 131 strike rate. That strike rate could be slightly better but really that is no excuse for middle order. You can't average below 20 in my opinion and strike below 130.

 

[Ab Fan]

Yes, Pakistan's middle order is one of the worst as per this list.

While the openers have an average of 45 at 131 strike rate. That strike rate could be slightly better but really that is no excuse for middle order. You can't average below 20 in my opinion and strike below 130.