BunnyRabbit
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You were posing yourself as an Indian around a week ago. What changed?Might be true
we have a team of amir naseem fakhar and babar left. I can live with that
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You were posing yourself as an Indian around a week ago. What changed?Might be true
we have a team of amir naseem fakhar and babar left. I can live with that
You don't knw me bro, if you follow me on here you exactly who I followYou were posing yourself as an Indian around a week ago. What changed?
On Waiting list….. don’t hold your breathSo when is the surgery scheduled?
soonest operation theater gets free, its busy doing Software Updates in there lolSo when is the surgery scheduled?
And yet he has given us two trophiesHis own performance was zero
And yet he has given us two trophies
This is the main difference between Rizwan cultists and Saifi fans. Rizwan supporters only care about individual stats, nothing more nothing less. it doesn't matter how the team performs, all that matters is Rizwan stat pads and gets enough footage for another round of tiktok edits
On the other hand, anyone who supports Sarfraz backs him because we know that he will put everything on the line for the team. He doesn't care about stats or person milestones. If he needs to open he will open and if he needs to bat at 11 he will bat at XI. This is what leadership and putting the team first looks like.
At the end of the day history will remember Saifi for two ICC trophies whereas Rizwan will be only be remembered for this:
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He defeated India for first time by 10 wicketsAnd yet he has given us two trophies
This is the main difference between Rizwan cultists and Saifi fans. Rizwan supporters only care about individual stats, nothing more nothing less. it doesn't matter how the team performs, all that matters is Rizwan stat pads and gets enough footage for another round of tiktok edits
On the other hand, anyone who supports Sarfraz backs him because we know that he will put everything on the line for the team. He doesn't care about stats or person milestones. If he needs to open he will open and if he needs to bat at 11 he will bat at XI. This is what leadership and putting the team first looks like.
At the end of the day history will remember Saifi for two ICC trophies whereas Rizwan will be only be remembered for this:
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Babar's 10 wicket win over India in a group stage that didn't lead to a t20 win is nowhere close to ct2017 pak victory over India which was utter dominance.He defeated India for first time by 10 wickets
In a world cup which Sarfraz can dream of
You making fun of guy who chased down highest wc total and was leading run scorer in wc
Thank God that clown was stripped of captaincy and kicked out of team
Agree with all expect Imad thing. He is still good as a bowler in limited-over format. He was the best spinner for Pakistan since he comeback.My surgery predictions-
1. Rizwan will be made captain
2. Azam Khan, Ifti, Shadab & possibly Imad Wasim will be fired
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This sounds splendid. The fans are just bickering. As far as Mr. Chairman is concerned the job is well done by Wahab.Pakistan Cricket Board to revert back to previous selection committee system after T20 World Cup disappointment
Former Test fast bowler Wahab Riaz, who was part of the selection committee for the T20 World Cup, might be appointed as the new chief selector.
As per media reports, Pakistan men’s cricketers may refused central contracts if they are demoted after the poor performance in T20 World Cup 2024.
Pakistan Cricket Board is awaiting head coach Gary Kirsten's report and it will be deemed crucial for future decisions. PCB will make decisions in light of this report.
Gary Kirsten should not go overboard. This was not his team. He didn’t work on it. He needs to spend time with the team first and gradually churn out detractors. Should not fall into media hype and take drastic decisions.As per media reports, Pakistan men’s cricketers may refused central contracts if they are demoted after the poor performance in T20 World Cup 2024.
Pakistan Cricket Board is awaiting head coach Gary Kirsten's report and it will be deemed crucial for future decisions. PCB will make decisions in light of this report.
Why not? Sorry I have to disagree.Gary Kirsten should not go overboard. This was not his team. He didn’t work on it. He needs to spend time with the team first and gradually churn out detractors. Should not fall into media hype and take drastic decisions.
Gary should build his team based on his own assessments and not rely on hearsay. This isn't his team yet. While it's important to drop those who don't perform or lack merit, he shouldn't overreact to issues like someone bringing their family or Person A not talking to Person B. He should focus solely on cricket matters, determining how he wants to utilize each player and what role each should have. Since he has just started, he should give himself every opportunity to build the team he wants.Why not? Sorry I have to disagree.
Over 80% of the squad has no business playing international and the other 15% have no business playing t20 cricket.
Gary Kirsten should not go overboard. This was not his team. He didn’t work on it. He needs to spend time with the team first and gradually churn out detractors. Should not fall into media hype and take drastic decisions.
Exactly wht was @Shafi blabberingWork on stadiums has already started and he has put a coaching team in place. Kirsten is a good hire.
Naqvi is a shrewd guy and will continue since fans accepted the reality nothing will happen. Naqvi is all talk but do nothing guy just like Zaka.
Rely on Naqvi to clear out all this mess with the help of Gary Kirsten and Jason Gillespie....Was listening to a senior sports reporters vlog where he revealed the following
- The present team which went to the US was divided and mentally not ready or hungry to win the WC. The team is divided in various different camps ie Babar camp, Shaheen camp ie Shaheen feels betrayed and hard done by the PCB and Babar, Rizwan camp where Rizwan feels he is Pakistan's rightful next captain. The players on the trip only really communicated with each other on a need too basis but overall no one went out of the way to help the captain and other players. Mohsin Naqvi apparently knew about the issues in the team before the WC and he tried his best to motivate the players by telling them to focus on winning the WC and any differences, problems will be resolved afterwards.
During Ramiz reign the entire team was single-handedly behind Babar, however it was during Sethis reign where Babar and Rizwan felt threatened by the PCB offering the T20 captaincy to Shaheen and the ODI vice captaincy to Shan Masood, Shaheen had to turn down the captaincy of the T20 team vs Afghanistan under pressure from Babar Azam
However things took a turn for the absolute worst under Zaka Ashraf who started the practice of meeting players individually and started promising them the captaincy going forward. The PCB had already told Shaheen in the ODI WC in 2023 that he was going to be the next white ball captain and Babar knew about this and there are videos of Shaheen pushing Babar in the Afghanistan game.
Babar got his revenge against Shaheen by utilizing the Peshawar Zalmi card and got himself reinstated as captain immediately and now you have a situation where there is a deep sense of insecurity, mistrust, animosity in the team where its every player for himself.
- Gary Kirsten has complained about everyone from the captain to the players ie he was just primarily busy trying to keep the players together that he did not get time to focus on the tactical side of things. He also complained that the players were not listening to his inputs, game plans and some of the players including the captain misbehaved with him ie I have been playing for Pakistan for a long time, I have been captaining for Pakistan for a long time, who the hell are you to come to Pakistan and tell me what to do.
- The PCB has no choice but to drop all these players and send them back to domestic cricket and cancel all their league contracts, these players need to be given the message that they cannot keep playing on the basis of past performances and seniority, they need to regain the hunger to play for Pakistan again.
- Mohsin Naqvi is unhappy with the incompetence and slow pace of the PCB officials and a prime example is the PCB official who was responsible for booking the teams hotel in New York City didn't even bother to double check that the hotel was 90 minutes from the ground. Also some of the PCB officials are part of the groupings among the players and they leak PCB information to the players.
actually they play same against other teams too so its better to criticise the way they play against India TBH lolWhy talk about poor performance only against India??
What about performance against other teams??
Heard Babar will be captain in CT25 and Wahab will stay means Shadab, Ift, Rauf will continue. First round exit. This Naqvi is even worse than Zaka.Nothing much is gonna happen. If people are expecting that Naqvi is gonna put this team upside down then you are mistaken. The most he is going to do is remove few players like Iffi, azam, shdab etc, Nothing else.
I think babar is gonna stay along with wahab riaz.
Do you really believe that? This Naqvi and Babar, Rizwan have great potential to be actors. They are just playing according to the script.Rely on Naqvi to clear out all this mess with the help of Gary Kirsten and Jason Gillespie....
I would say dont make any sound for captaincy , as whit ball series coming later this year... Just keep calm and then later when time comes in Nov'24 announce capatincy as ODI goes to Shan Masood and T20 to Fakhar Zaman
On the contrary, I’ll say announce the captain now and come down with iron fist. Let the players know he’s the captain and he’s here to stay. No need to wait three months and then destroy the dressing room environment.Rely on Naqvi to clear out all this mess with the help of Gary Kirsten and Jason Gillespie....
I would say dont make any sound for captaincy , as whit ball series coming later this year... Just keep calm and then later when time comes in Nov'24 announce capatincy as ODI goes to Shan Masood and T20 to Fakhar Zaman
His body language gives away. He is least bothered or upset about the team doing badly in the WC. Absolutely no smoke without fire that Shaheen and his group were not interested or committed to this WC. The bulk of the complaints in the reports by Wahab, Kirsten and Manager are against him.
It’s narrative being built by the PCB to cover for the proud moment we lost to a bunch of amateur cricketers.Personally I think all this disunity etc is just nonsense. I didn’t really see any evidence for underperformance. We are a weak and poor team that played poorly.
All of these reports are just a smokescreen to dupe people in to thinking “hey everything is fine, we just need to have some unity and we’ll be great again”.
I don't think Pakistan fans(apart from the ones on this forum) are as passionate about cricket as compared to India. In India it is followed like another religion.Almost more than 20 days passed, what surgery done by PCB Chairman? haven’t heard anything on this… After WC ouster Pakistani cricketers looks reluctant to resign from the team.
Pakistan fans and media looks peaceful as compared to Indians. Pakistani fans should have asked PCB about their team’s performance. PCB is accountable.
Sharing one example, in India how media and peoples prompt in raising their concerns. When Mohd. Azharuddin was Indian captain and Mr.Jaywant Lele was BCCI secretary. At that time, there was one practice whenever Indian teams practising in nets, local groundsmen prepares tea in nets for players using kerosene stove. How dangerous it was for the players. That time also BCCI were making millions, they could have made such arrangements from the hotel. This story published in newspapers and lots of criticism on BCCI from media and fans. After that BCCI abolished this practice
Not much to be passionate about if the cricket team is losing to a pathetic bunch of amateurs like USA in a World Cup.I don't think Pakistan fans(apart from the ones on this forum) are as passionate about cricket as compared to India. In India it is followed like another religion.
And the sad thing is - a lot of the public fall for this nonsense. Pakistan as a nation are only obsessed with nice snaps and social media. Losers. Sick of the new age pak mentality.Pakistan players are back on social media. Posting their reels about fitness workout etc. Looks like PR teams are in action to calm things down.
These videos won't matter much if you look the same with a fat belly and play for the national team. Either they make themselves fit and look fit as well, these videos are just for PR.And the sad thing is - a lot of the public fall for this nonsense. Pakistan as a nation are only obsessed with nice snaps and social media. Losers. Sick of the new age pak mentality.
of course they don’t make a difference in real terms. However, the intention is to pacify the public, and it probably will because I’m sorry to say the Pakistani qaum at the moment is lost in fuzool stuff like social media, memes, taking pictures blah blah. They don’t actually care about cricket anymore. Just casualsThese videos won't matter much if you look the same with a fat belly and play for the national team. Either they make themselves fit and look fit as well, these videos are just for PR.
Don’t mind it.'Major Surgery' Off? Report Makes Big Claim On Changes In Pakistan Team Post T20 World Cup Disaster
The Pakistan Cricket Board might not be able bring about major changes in the national team in the wake of the side's dismal performance in the T20 World Cup 2024 as that could lead to a confrontation with senior players, according to sources. PCB's governing board, scheduled to meet here on Saturday, will take cognizance of white-ball head coach Gary Kirsten and senior team manager Wahab Riaz's reports submitted to chairman Mohsin Naqvi. But a source said, only cosmetic changes will take place and the "same set of players" would likely continue to play.
Naqvi had been quoted as saying following Pakistan's defeat to India in the World Cup that a "major surgery" was required in the team.
"The reports by Kirsten and Riaz will help the Governing Board and chairman Naqvi decide the next course of action but all indications are there Naqvi doesn't want a confrontation with senior players and he has also been advised against massive changes in the team," a source told PTI.
"There are so many outside voices and pressures from within the system that all this talk about big changes is unlikely to happen. So, basically, with a few changes, the same set of players will be in the Pakistan team for coming games as well in all formats," he added.
On whether Babar Azam would be retained as white-ball captain following the dismal T20 World Cup showing, another source said that while there is a group, including some former Test captains, which wants to see Shaheen Afridi replace Babar, if there are changes, the prime candidates for captaincy would be Shan Masood and Muhammad Rizwan.
"You could see cosmetic changes, like changes in the selection committee, and the same old story of reorganising domestic cricket to help do damage control. But the senior players remain strong," he said.
Kirsten's report is said to contain the same observations he made during his interaction with the players in the dressing room after the match against Ireland in the Group stage.
Kirsten had warned senior pros in the side following the team's loss to the USA and India to adapt to new skill-sets and improve their game awareness or get left behind. Wahab, on the other hand, outlined personality clashes in the side during the World Cup.
'Major Surgery' Off? Report Makes Big Claim On Changes In Pakistan Team Post T20 World Cup Disaster | Cricket News
According to a source, PCB chairman Mohsin Naqvi wants to avoid a confrontation with senior players.sports.ndtv.com
I would still wait for the actual moment and his statement to come.Looks like Naqvi is a paper tiger. Supposed to be the most powerful man in the country but is succumbing to pressure from some fat cricketers.
I think Babar and his boys are to be blamed. During the Sarfaraz era, Pakistan fans here were very passionate about their team and losses would hurt them. Presently I do not see the same level of passion. A significant number of fans don't seem hopeful about the team's prospects. And then there are Babar fans who are determined to prove that Pakistan's cricket has always been mediocre.I don't think Pakistan fans(apart from the ones on this forum) are as passionate about cricket as compared to India. In India it is followed like another religion.
He is also out of form... not the right time to give them this big responsibility.. it will further effect his game.Here’s to hope (all that’s left really)
InshaAllah Fakhar Zaman as the best white ball captain of Pakistan!
What’s the point then? Who’s in form? What kind of form do you want? Rizwan’s 50* off 50 balls against Canada form?He is also out of form... not the right time to give them this big responsibility.. it will further effect his game.
better to go with any youngster and give him confidence as BCCI did with dhoni back in 2007... like naseem shah is a perfect guy to lead the white ball side.What’s the point then? Who’s in form? What kind of form do you want? Rizwan’s 50* off 50 balls against Canada form?
Naseem Shah won’t be able to keep himself fit for all games. If you want to see what he’s all about, at least give him leadership in domestic firstbetter to go with any youngster and give him confidence as BCCI did with dhoni back in 2007... like naseem shah is a perfect guy to lead the white ball side.
Passion alone without real ability and skills cannot get you anywhere. Should stop living in the years gone by and come to terms with modern cricket.I think Babar and his boys are to be blamed. During the Sarfaraz era, Pakistan fans here were very passionate about their team and losses would hurt them. Presently I do not see the same level of passion. A significant number of fans don't seem hopeful about the team's prospects. And then there are Babar fans who are determined to prove that Pakistan's cricket has always been mediocre.
Normally you are just obsessed withHere’s to hope (all that’s left really)
InshaAllah Fakhar Zaman as the best white ball captain of Pakistan!
Normally you are just obsessed with couple of players, but this suggestion is very good.Here’s to hope (all that’s left really)
InshaAllah Fakhar Zaman as the best white ball captain of Pakistan!
For a minute I thought it said Lahore Airport tomorrowAs per media reports, PCB Chairman Mohsin Naqvi to meet former Captain Sarfaraz Ahmed at Lahore Headquarters tomorrow
Lol literally everything is PR for this man