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[VIDEOS] Andrew Tate and brother Tristan to be tried in Romania on rape and trafficking charges [Update on post #1294]

A Romanian court has agreed to a police request to hold the controversial social media influencer Andrew Tate in detention for 30 days.

Tate, 36, was arrested alongside his younger brother, Tristan, 34, on Thursday night over a human trafficking and rape probe.

Outside the court, the Tates' lawyer, Eugen Vidineac, said: "We are not at a stage where guilt or innocence is proven, for now we only discuss preventive measures.”

Mr Vidineac added that his clients reject all the allegations.

https://twitter.com/5Pillarsuk/status/1608945858221076480
 
Technics 1210 said:
Lets get real here.

Since the end of WW2, Zionists have controlled the narrative, the perception of reality, and the economic system, in the West.

Andrew Tate is one of the few who is spearheading a new generation into challenging the Zionist agenda, and the powers to be do not like it because they are losing control!
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Even before WW2, Zionists had significant influence.

As a matter of fact, I believe this "group" has been around for a very long time (possibly under different names).
 
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What is it with religious people and their propensity to believe in certain conspiracy theories? I guess a belief in God predisposes them to such notions. That because there is a divine plan and forces of good and evil - this is also reflected on Earth.

Our residents believe in Illuminati, Matrix, NWO, Satanism whilst you have Christian Evangelicals in America believing in QAnon.

Maybe they are accepting of theories without evidence just like religion.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
I don't know anything about Tate's history, I never knew who he was before this thread popped up. If he's a pimp or a trafficker of humans, why is he appearing on Piers Morgan shows? Maybe he's a psychopath, then he should be locked up. At the same time he's calling some women out on their ** and their response is to question penis size. You can say it's one tweet, but that is what has went viral. So like I said, if he drops his pants tomorrow and it's larger than expected, does that mean his words are validated?
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Because Piers runs a TV show which works in getting the most viewers.

Its not an 'if' Tate is a pimp or not, that's a fact.
Its not an 'if' he's not a woman beater, that's on video.
Its not an 'if' he's a trafficker, that's been known for years now. Probably best to check things out before coming on a thread defending him in posts.

What Greta said is foolish. That's it. How does it compare to someone with the above....accomplishments....is utterly beyond me. Greta, a child btw 2-3 years ago, also has been constantly harassed and attacked by grown men on Twitter, for the crime of advocating climate change.

Probably helps if you can admit sometimes you're wrong.

This thread is about Tate being looked upto by many men, and it seems a lot of Asians. Your original post was 'he is xyz but says some things that are true'. To which I replied a lot of despicable people say sh1t too, doesn't mean we start defending them for some truth. His past of woman beating, pimping and now a trafficker makes him pretty despicable. If you're looking for the kind of 'truths' you feel he is churning out, then there are probably more dime a dozen people with better morals to pick from.
 
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Pakpak said:
Because Piers runs a TV show which works in getting the most viewers.

Its not an 'if' Tate is a pimp or not, that's a fact.
Its not an 'if' he's not a woman beater, that's on video.
Its not an 'if' he's a trafficker, that's been known for years now. Probably best to check things out before coming on a thread defending him in posts.

What Greta said is foolish. That's it. How does it compare to someone with the above....accomplishments....is utterly beyond me. Greta, a child btw 2-3 years ago, also has been constantly harassed and attacked by grown men on Twitter, for the crime of advocating climate change.

Probably helps if you can admit sometimes you're wrong.

This thread is about Tate being looked upto by many men, and it seems a lot of Asians. Your original post was 'he is xyz but says some things that are true'. To which I replied a lot of despicable people say sh1t too, doesn't mean we start defending them for some truth. His past of woman beating, pimping and now a trafficker makes him pretty despicable. If you're looking for the kind of 'truths' you feel he is churning out, then there are probably more dime a dozen people with better morals to pick from.
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If all these are facts then he should have been in jail long before now. What sort of criminal is it that well known journalists will sit down with and interview as if he is some sort of celebrity?

I am not here to defend him, why would I feel the need to do that? It's not me sitting him down in front of a camera and letting him mouth off. I am just trying to figure out what is going on. Are all those offences from a long time ago? Is that why he doesn't feel the need to lay low?
 
Abel Reames said:
What is it with religious people and their propensity to believe in certain conspiracy theories? I guess a belief in God predisposes them to such notions. That because there is a divine plan and forces of good and evil - this is also reflected on Earth.

Our residents believe in Illuminati, Matrix, NWO, Satanism whilst you have Christian Evangelicals in America believing in QAnon.

Maybe they are accepting of theories without evidence just like religion.
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As someone once said. “ religion poisons everything “
 
Pakpak said:
Tbh noone cares or knows Tate is a Muslim as he converted to get the adulation of billions since his usual audience was shrinking or saw him for what he was. Ive seen videos of him dancing with half naked women the week after his supposed conversion :)) Its a commonly used tactic in Pakistan. You get caught being a sleazeball or nudes leaked they all turn pious to get a new audience who will happily forgive them. Our entire politics is based on that

For Muslims to have role models it's quite sad an alarming they're looking for Tate.

Tariq Jameel, even people like Mehdi Hassan are people far better.

Not sure what secrets Tate was spilling that we already don't know.

Tate is a multi millionaire who's made millions on the back of morons drawn into his affiliate marking and giving him ££ and fair play to him for his hustle I suppose. He's living a life of luxury most can't

He's a known pimp from the past, the past caught up with him I guess.

Not an attack on you at all as you know me by now, just a general observation
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Of course, its good to read opinions and esp yours.

However there are some issues and clarification needed from your posts.

1. Tate is mostly followed by Non-Muslims and mainly in the west. There is no evidence of his videos or posts having lesser views, on the contrary it seems his following has become much bigger over the last year. I had never heard of him until then and I follow MMA closely.

2. For the last 20+ years the attacks on Islam have been regular and will continue, it wont be too long before they use Tate's name to attempt to tarnish the faith. Things have cooled down against Islam because atm there is no Muslim nation they want to bomb and kill children while sleeping. The other reason is attacking Islam has backfired over the last 2 decades. White westerners are converting in higher numbers than ever.

Tate has huge influence there is no doubt. More people watch him than they watch BBC and CNN combined. Being a Muslim is also something they wont like.

You've mentioned there are FACTS of him doing various criminal acts to women. Can you please provide the charge, name of court and sentence for each these? As Im not aware.
 
Abel Reames said:
What is it with religious people and their propensity to believe in certain conspiracy theories? I guess a belief in God predisposes them to such notions. That because there is a divine plan and forces of good and evil - this is also reflected on Earth.

Our residents believe in Illuminati, Matrix, NWO, Satanism whilst you have Christian Evangelicals in America believing in QAnon.

Maybe they are accepting of theories without evidence just like religion.
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People with all types of beliefs and none dont accept the official narrative which is put out by the government. WMD's in Iraq was a lie, 911 was a lie as proven by an American professor.

Its actually the dumb, deaf and blind who believe everything the western mainstream media says, who are actually following fake theories. Andrew Tate isnt speaking of anything most of us dont know in this regard.
 
Pakpak said:
Because Piers runs a TV show which works in getting the most viewers.

Its not an 'if' Tate is a pimp or not, that's a fact.
Its not an 'if' he's not a woman beater, that's on video.
Its not an 'if' he's a trafficker, that's been known for years now. Probably best to check things out before coming on a thread defending him in posts.

What Greta said is foolish. That's it. How does it compare to someone with the above....accomplishments....is utterly beyond me. Greta, a child btw 2-3 years ago, also has been constantly harassed and attacked by grown men on Twitter, for the crime of advocating climate change.

Probably helps if you can admit sometimes you're wrong.

This thread is about Tate being looked upto by many men, and it seems a lot of Asians. Your original post was 'he is xyz but says some things that are true'. To which I replied a lot of despicable people say sh1t too, doesn't mean we start defending them for some truth. His past of woman beating, pimping and now a trafficker makes him pretty despicable. If you're looking for the kind of 'truths' you feel he is churning out, then there are probably more dime a dozen people with better morals to pick from.
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One more thing, you bolded in that post that Greta is a child.

How many kids in your world post tweets about big or small d energy?
 
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Cpt. Rishwat said:
One more thing, you bolded in that post that Greta is a child.

How many kids in your world post tweets about big or small d energy?
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Right.

Greta is a phony with little substance. The reason why she is getting attention is due to feminism.
 
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KingKhanWC said:
People with all types of beliefs and none dont accept the official narrative which is put out by the government. WMD's in Iraq was a lie, 911 was a lie as proven by an American professor.

Its actually the dumb, deaf and blind who believe everything the western mainstream media says, who are actually following fake theories. Andrew Tate isnt speaking of anything most of us dont know in this regard.
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WMD was a lie. Everyone knows that. 911 was not a conspiracy. Only crackpot conspiracy theory believers believe in that
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It appears the insanity of the ruling elite is exposed worldwide now.<br><br>They have one command,<br><br>Do not speak out, behave as sheep.</p>— Andrew Tate (@Cobratate) <a href="https://twitter.com/Cobratate/status/1609120784559005697?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 31, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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sweep_shot said:
Bingo! As I thought.

Tate is not the first and probably wouldn't be the last to be silenced.
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Again, not defending Tate. He deserves to be punished if he is guilty.

But, timing of this arrest is interesting. Why now? Why not before?
 
szrana007 said:

Here is a good video on Andrew Tate's arrest from a Muslim point of view.
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When posting videos - show us that you have actually watched it by adding more than just a one line summary so people can discuss what is being said
 
KingKhanWC said:
People with all types of beliefs and none dont accept the official narrative which is put out by the government. WMD's in Iraq was a lie, 911 was a lie as proven by an American professor.

Its actually the dumb, deaf and blind who believe everything the western mainstream media says, who are actually following fake theories. Andrew Tate isnt speaking of anything most of us dont know in this regard.
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Let me clarify religious people have a _greater_ propensity to believe in conspiracy theories.

Let me also clarify that they have a much greater propensity to believe in a certain type of conspiracy theory - the type that believes that there is an evil elite cabal controlling the world with or without child sacrifice or sexual exploitation.

For sure some conspiracy theories are true, genearlly those that become true at later dates. I am sure recognised power structures do undertake actions that they would want to remain secret. The US government has experimented on it's people. Business cartels like the oft quoted on this forum Sugar Mafia most likely have artificially raised prices. Putin most likely did bomb Moscow as a pretext to raze Grozny to the ground. Israel did attack USS Liberty to involve America by blaming it on its foes.

As for 9/11 I would put that in the same category as the conspiracy theory that the US faked the moon landings. Hundreds or eveb thousands of people would have known this if this was the truth because it would have needed this amount of people to carry it out. I find it hard to believe that that many people would keep quiet for their whole lives.

So yes religious people have a greater propensity to believe in this nefarious evil cabal of satanists/zionists/lizards that rule the world.
 

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] [MENTION=142056]szrana007[/MENTION]

Check this out.

He has been saying out things like this in recent interviews. He also explicitly said "they" might target him soon.
 
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sweep_shot said:

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] [MENTION=142056]szrana007[/MENTION]

Check this out.

He has been saying out things like this in recent interviews. He also explicitly said "they" might target him soon.
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He’s been explicitly saying that because he knew the crimes he had committed. So there always a chance that one day he will be caught. So no shock there.

Him being a sex trafficker isn’t some new development which came out of nowhere. It’s been talked about for years and is also why he escaped UK and refuses to go to western countries. Heck in one of his podcasts he explicitly stated that he lives in Romania and loves Eastern Europe and Dubai because in these places as long as you have money, no one can do anything to you no matter what you’ve done. So he’s clearly not been shy about his escapades.

Trust millennial Muslims to make heros out of crooks and scam artists. He is a smart guy I’ll give him that. He knew he just needs to publicly accept Islam and he’ll have an online army of hero-starved Muslim youth to defend him.

All it took for you guys was for him to fake-accept Islam to wash away all his sins including this sex trafficking case? Dude literally made and accepts that he made his money money by exploiting young women for cam-sex work.

We sure do love our messiahs even though our religion is rooted in finality of prophethood.
 
Ahmad-GERMANFC said:
He’s been explicitly saying that because he knew the crimes he had committed. So there always a chance that one day he will be caught. So no shock there.

Him being a sex trafficker isn’t some new development which came out of nowhere. It’s been talked about for years and is also why he escaped UK and refuses to go to western countries. Heck in one of his podcasts he explicitly stated that he lives in Romania and loves Eastern Europe and Dubai because in these places as long as you have money, no one can do anything to you no matter what you’ve done. So he’s clearly not been shy about his escapades.

Trust millennial Muslims to make heros out of crooks and scam artists. He is a smart guy I’ll give him that. He knew he just needs to publicly accept Islam and he’ll have an online army of hero-starved Muslim youth to defend him.

All it took for you guys was for him to fake-accept Islam to wash away all his sins including this sex trafficking case? Dude literally made and accepts that he made his money money by exploiting young women for cam-sex work.

We sure do love our messiahs even though our religion is rooted in finality of prophethood.
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Who considers him to be the messiah or prophet? I am not aware of any Muslim who does that.

I am just saying I agree with him about one thing and that is there seems to be a sinister deep state behind the scene. You can call it Zionists, illuminati, freemason, or whatever; but, it seems to be there.

It is a Satanic system run by a Satanic group; they attempt to influence media, government etc.

BTW, Tate is not the first one to say all these. Many other influential people said or hinted at the same stuffs.
 
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Nobody should care about Tate. He can do whatever. He is not a role model and has a very shady past.

But, he has been calling out moral degradation of societies. He is saying that this is deliberately done by the elite to strengthen their control. There seems to be a dark force behind the scene.
 
Ahmad-GERMANFC said:
He’s been explicitly saying that because he knew the crimes he had committed. So there always a chance that one day he will be caught. So no shock there.

Him being a sex trafficker isn’t some new development which came out of nowhere. It’s been talked about for years and is also why he escaped UK and refuses to go to western countries. Heck in one of his podcasts he explicitly stated that he lives in Romania and loves Eastern Europe and Dubai because in these places as long as you have money, no one can do anything to you no matter what you’ve done. So he’s clearly not been shy about his escapades.

Trust millennial Muslims to make heros out of crooks and scam artists. He is a smart guy I’ll give him that. He knew he just needs to publicly accept Islam and he’ll have an online army of hero-starved Muslim youth to defend him.

All it took for you guys was for him to fake-accept Islam to wash away all his sins including this sex trafficking case? Dude literally made and accepts that he made his money money by exploiting young women for cam-sex work.

We sure do love our messiahs even though our religion is rooted in finality of prophethood.
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This is a reasonable post, a lot of it makes sense, but you say he can get away with anything in Dubai or Eastern Europe as long as he has money. I don't know about Eastern Europe, but in Dubai that's certainly not true. One of the big differences between UAE countries and the subcontinent is that they don't tolerate crime, and it's not easy to buy your way out.

Also it's only self-conscious Muslims who think his online fanbase is made up purely of Muslims. He's trending worldwide, and he seems to have picked up plenty of male fans outside of Muslim countries as well due to his porno past maybe or his kickboxing credentials. Maybe they are all incels, who knows. But that's still a lot of incels so he must be selling to a big market.
 
sweep_shot said:

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] [MENTION=142056]szrana007[/MENTION]

Check this out.

He has been saying out things like this in recent interviews. He also explicitly said "they" might target him soon.
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Thanks for the video. Was a great watch.

In the video, he exposes the lie of the money, the current rigged economic system, where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, exposes the ruling elites and offers you a way on how to escape this rigged capitalist economic system.

This video and the subsequent arrest of Tate shows that the ruling elites fear rich, powerful and free thinking men like Tate who teach other men to subvert the cruel system imposed on us by the elites.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
This is a reasonable post, a lot of it makes sense, but you say he can get away with anything in Dubai or Eastern Europe as long as he has money. I don't know about Eastern Europe, but in Dubai that's certainly not true. One of the big differences between UAE countries and the subcontinent is that they don't tolerate crime, and it's not easy to buy your way out.

Also it's only self-conscious Muslims who think his online fanbase is made up purely of Muslims. He's trending worldwide, and he seems to have picked up plenty of male fans outside of Muslim countries as well due to his porno past maybe or his kickboxing credentials. Maybe they are all incels, who knows. But that's still a lot of incels so he must be selling to a big market.
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He said that’s why he prefers Eastern Europe and Dubai. Just giving his reasoning.

Tbh as the whole trafficking crimes have come to the fore I’ve seen his overall fandom drop down a bit and the % of vocal fans being Muslims have increased.
 
sweep_shot said:
But, he has been calling out moral degradation of societies. He is saying that this is deliberately done by the elite to strengthen their control. There seems to be a dark force behind the scene.
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Calling out moral degradation while drowning in alcohol and paying women to do explicit stuff on camera so he can make money?

Please choose better heroes
 
Ahmad-GERMANFC said:
Calling out moral degradation while drowning in alcohol and paying women to do explicit stuff on camera so he can make money?

Please choose better heroes
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Its not about being a Muslim hero or a role model, clearly Tate isn't one, but most of the stuff he says is true, whether you like it or not.

And he has been exposing the satanic elite for some time now, its only now that elite fear him because he has got huge influence and is encouraging people to rebel against the evil system imposed on us by the elites.
 
Leftist liberals are calling for Andrew Tate's public execution without witnessing any evidence. What happened to 'innocent until proven guilty"? Not surprising though.
 
I hope this trafficker and criminal is sent to jail for a long time! People like AT are despicable and deserve no respect.
 
Is there some correlation with his trafficking and pandering to conspiracy theories?
Is he targeting vulnerable groups?
 
Ahmad-GERMANFC said:
He said that’s why he prefers Eastern Europe and Dubai. Just giving his reasoning.

Tbh as the whole trafficking crimes have come to the fore I’ve seen his overall fandom drop down a bit and the % of vocal fans being Muslims have increased.
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Not so surprising if his Muslim fanbase has increased, he's become a Muslim. Did his Hindu gay fanbase fall at the same time?
 
Want to be famous or get people talking about you then play the religion card these days!. Seems that to many Muslim's Islam is like a fan club more then a personal spiritual journey. I don't get a kick out of anyone supposedly converting too Islam neither do I cry over someone leaving it. On the day of judgement Allah is gonna ask us about our own deeds not of another believer. Anyone praising the Taliban need there head checked. If they love them so much then go and live in Afghanistan.
 
PakLFC said:
Want to be famous or get people talking about you then play the religion card these days!. Seems that to many Muslim's Islam is like a fan club more then a personal spiritual journey. I don't get a kick out of anyone supposedly converting too Islam neither do I cry over someone leaving it. On the day of judgement Allah is gonna ask us about our own deeds not of another believer. Anyone praising the Taliban need there head checked. If they love them so much then go and live in Afghanistan.
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Jurassic Park has spoken. The voice of Islam and Pakistan no less. Muat be authenitic.
 
Pakpak said:
Tbh noone cares or knows Tate is a Muslim as he converted to get the adulation of billions since his usual audience was shrinking or saw him for what he was. Ive seen videos of him dancing with half naked women the week after his supposed conversion :)) Its a commonly used tactic in Pakistan. You get caught being a sleazeball or nudes leaked they all turn pious to get a new audience who will happily forgive them. Our entire politics is based on that

For Muslims to have role models it's quite sad an alarming they're looking for Tate.

Tariq Jameel, even people like Mehdi Hassan are people far better.

Not sure what secrets Tate was spilling that we already don't know.

Tate is a multi millionaire who's made millions on the back of morons drawn into his affiliate marking and giving him ££ and fair play to him for his hustle I suppose. He's living a life of luxury most can't

He's a known pimp from the past, the past caught up with him I guess.

Not an attack on you at all as you know me by now, just a general observation
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Well said.

We know how to spot someone with their mask intact and when it has been slipped off ;)

Like yourself, I knew this guy was a fraud pre and post conversion to Islam as per my comment in an previous post in this thread.

Unfortunately, Muslims are a gullible bunch and he played them like a fiddle.

The fact that other Muslims view him as a role model/messiah is indeed a sad state of affairs but this expected when they always play victim and believe the world is against them rather introspect why their shortfalls in this world are apparent.
 
Ahmad-GERMANFC said:
He’s been explicitly saying that because he knew the crimes he had committed. So there always a chance that one day he will be caught. So no shock there.

Him being a sex trafficker isn’t some new development which came out of nowhere. It’s been talked about for years and is also why he escaped UK and refuses to go to western countries. Heck in one of his podcasts he explicitly stated that he lives in Romania and loves Eastern Europe and Dubai because in these places as long as you have money, no one can do anything to you no matter what you’ve done. So he’s clearly not been shy about his escapades.

Trust millennial Muslims to make heros out of crooks and scam artists. He is a smart guy I’ll give him that. He knew he just needs to publicly accept Islam and he’ll have an online army of hero-starved Muslim youth to defend him.

All it took for you guys was for him to fake-accept Islam to wash away all his sins including this sex trafficking case? Dude literally made and accepts that he made his money money by exploiting young women for cam-sex work.

We sure do love our messiahs even though our religion is rooted in finality of prophethood.
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I knew this guy was a fraud pre and post conversion to Islam as per my comment in a previous post in this thread.

Unfortunately, Muslims are a gullible bunch and he played them like a fiddle.

The fact that other Muslims view him as a role model/messiah is indeed a sad state of affairs but this expected when they always play victim and believe the world is against them rather introspect why their shortfalls in this world are apparent.
 
"My unmatched perspicacity coupled with sheer indefatigability makes me a feared opponent in any realm of human endeavor".

I love this quote from Tate, don't discount the Top G just yet. He will be back.
 
Heisenberg111 said:
"My unmatched perspicacity coupled with sheer indefatigability makes me a feared opponent in any realm of human endeavor".
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That's Shashi Tharoor level stuff. Will fly over the head of most British Muslims.
 
Heisenberg111 said:
I am not familiar with Shashi Tharoor, what did he say ?
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Nothing in particular - but he too has a habit of bringing in complex English literature to his discourse, such as the below:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Exasperating farrago of distortions, misrepresentations&outright lies being broadcast by an unprincipled showman masquerading as a journalst</p>— Shashi Tharoor (@ShashiTharoor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShashiTharoor/status/861608665517895680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Varun said:
Nothing in particular - but he too has a habit of bringing in complex English literature to his discourse, such as the below:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Exasperating farrago of distortions, misrepresentations&outright lies being broadcast by an unprincipled showman masquerading as a journalst</p>— Shashi Tharoor (@ShashiTharoor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShashiTharoor/status/861608665517895680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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I see, they both seem to have great vocabulary, LOL
 
Innocent till proven guilty.

This is all ploy by the matrix to frame Tates.

InshAllah Andrew and his brother will be free soon. FREE TOP G.

Haters keep hating. Not surprisingly, some desi old mentality of blind judgemental and that, here.

Don’t judge the guy for his previous, in Islam all his previous sins forgiven once one accepted Islam. Reverts start with a new clean slate.

Listen to his podcast and talks shows that are 30mins to hour long ones, not the tiktok youtube short videos where a lot out of contexr clips comes about. Listen to his recent podcasts with Youtube channels like with Tam Khan which had 2 fems in the podcast, JustPearlsthings where there was 5 women on the show, listen to his recent interview with Piers Morgan. Then you will realise how you were wrong about Andrew Tate. Trust me open you mind.

Stop being ignorant and judging him for his past sayings. Yes he did say things very blunt, spoke things like passionately sometimes too blunt and the wordings is quite strong and harsh maybe to some but he means no harm thats his social media persona, he has learned to control as he got older, now a Muslim he does think more.

Those questioning his faith. Listen to Tam Khan who is a close friend of his. There’s a lot things Tate doesn't show or tell on socials but he tells Tam Khan, he recently even told him about his tattoos if he should remove, he went Jummah every friday when he was in Dubai. He is trying and willing. Mans a new revert, don't be too harsh, there are born muslims doing lots of haram and evil deeds and not going Jummah let alone practicing. Things takes time and for new reverts it’s a huge change for them and they’ll need time to get to know more and change ways.
 
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Abel Reames said:
Let me clarify religious people have a _greater_ propensity to believe in conspiracy theories.

Let me also clarify that they have a much greater propensity to believe in a certain type of conspiracy theory - the type that believes that there is an evil elite cabal controlling the world with or without child sacrifice or sexual exploitation.

For sure some conspiracy theories are true, genearlly those that become true at later dates. I am sure recognised power structures do undertake actions that they would want to remain secret. The US government has experimented on it's people. Business cartels like the oft quoted on this forum Sugar Mafia most likely have artificially raised prices. Putin most likely did bomb Moscow as a pretext to raze Grozny to the ground. Israel did attack USS Liberty to involve America by blaming it on its foes.

As for 9/11 I would put that in the same category as the conspiracy theory that the US faked the moon landings. Hundreds or eveb thousands of people would have known this if this was the truth because it would have needed this amount of people to carry it out. I find it hard to believe that that many people would keep quiet for their whole lives.

So yes religious people have a greater propensity to believe in this nefarious evil cabal of satanists/zionists/lizards that rule the world.
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Let me? lol

You are entitled to your view but please dont post thinking they its correct.

There is no evidence religious people are more likely to believe in what you call conspiracy theories and you have provided none.

You cannot also put all of these into one basket. I.e 911 official story has been proven to be a lie because science has proven this. This doesnt mean flat earth is also true, clearly it isnt.

Now as for Andrew Tate.

1. We now know the Pizza box leading to his arrest is fake.

2. We know he was questioned of similar offences months before but no evidence.

3. Tate hasn't been convicted of anything yet, so he is innocent until proven otherwise.

Lets see what happens but imo seems an attempt to silence him esp as he has spoken the truth on many fake lies by western governments. Russia war , Pandemic, Epstein etc.

Btw There are more attacks on Tate than there is on Epstein . Clearly shows the powers create their own narrative , often to hide their own sick crimes.
 
Sidilicious said:
Can you please elaborate? Where did he say so?
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Brother Tate when asked about his religion. Some posters may not like this video.

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Champ_Pal said:
Brother Tate when asked about his religion. Some posters may not like this video.
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lol.

He has hundreds of videos. It may be before he converted. Even if not , he has his own views and his biggest audience is non-Muslims inc many Hindu kids too.

Clutching at straws here because he is a Muslim and it bothers you. :)
 
Abel Reames said:
https://www.psypost.org/2022/04/peo...-this-may-be-due-to-ideological-overlap-63020
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One study.

Which you forgot to read properly esp when addressing mostly Muslims on here.

"A limitation to the study was that it examined mainly Christian samples, and the results may not generalize to other religions"

It can be called a Christian study, thats all.

Most people dont believe the governments esp western governments , there are studies which show this too.

Some 61 percent of American voters surveyed believe in at least one political conspiracy theory, according to a Fairleigh Dickinson University poll.
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https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Polit...fs-about-WMDs-in-Iraq-and-Obama-s-birth-place

Besides Im here to debate you. :)

Fancy it?

1. Do you believe everything your government says? Where do you live for reference.

2. Do you believe Andrew Tates view on Covid?

3. Andrews view on Epstein?

4. Andrews view on Russia/Ukraine?
 
KingKhanWC said:
Let me? lol

You are entitled to your view but please dont post thinking they its correct.

There is no evidence religious people are more likely to believe in what you call conspiracy theories and you have provided none.

You cannot also put all of these into one basket. I.e 911 official story has been proven to be a lie because science has proven this. This doesnt mean flat earth is also true, clearly it isnt.

Now as for Andrew Tate.

1. We now know the Pizza box leading to his arrest is fake.

2. We know he was questioned of similar offences months before but no evidence.

3. Tate hasn't been convicted of anything yet, so he is innocent until proven otherwise.

Lets see what happens but imo seems an attempt to silence him esp as he has spoken the truth on many fake lies by western governments. Russia war , Pandemic, Epstein etc.

Btw There are more attacks on Tate than there is on Epstein . Clearly shows the powers create their own narrative , often to hide their own sick crimes.
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911 is not a conspiracy. Only crack pot conspiracy theorist believe that.
 
SalimBhai said:
911 is not a conspiracy. Only crack pot conspiracy theorist believe that.
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lol. Look I appreciate and fully understand why you as an Atheist 'Pakistani' who is an immigrant to the US, the land which pleases you, gave you your honour as a human cannot fathom the truth but I wrote SCEINCE has proved the official story to be a lie. Are you suggesting we should listen to George Bush instead of science?
 
Science has not proved for the story to be false. Nobody with sense believes that. Nobody. I know you believe in conspiracy theories. You can believe all you want. It does not make it a fact.
 
Also your absurd claim that no jews died on 911 is false. Like most of your statements. If you go to the museum 911. There is a list of people who died. Many jews on the list.
 
It is remarkable how some people think all conspiracy theories are false and baseless. These people are like zombies; not capable of looking past mainstream media/narratives.

Jimmy Savile was seen as a good man for all of his life. There were also conspiracy theory about him (which turned out to be true later on) and some knew about his dirty deeds long before his scandal became known.

My point is don't dismiss something very easily. When there is smoke, there is generally fire. Do your own research.
 
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SalimBhai said:
Science has not proved for the story to be false. Nobody with sense believes that. Nobody. I know you believe in conspiracy theories. You can believe all you want. It does not make it a fact.
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Next time quote me.

Again, as an athiest American immigrant you wont accept it as it would too stressful for you to give up on the idea USA is home of the good , brave and the rest of the nonsense. This is from an American expert proffesor who used years of modelling and research but unless its on CNN with Anderson Cooper its hard for you to accept.

Id challenge you to a debate but will only get deleted.

Read this

https://ine.uaf.edu/wtc7
 
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Once again crack pot conspiracy theorist in full force. There are plenty of vidrios and organizations out there with lengthy articles that the world is flat. That does not make it flat. Your beliefs in silly things is laughable.
 
szrana007 said:
You say you don't believe in religion and can think for yourself I, yet you are the most slavish follower of the dominant ideology in your cultural milieu (i.e Liberalism).

You are a slavish follower of liberalism, yet you think of yourself as some sort of a "free thinker" LOL
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Your comments are laughable. Seems like you are having a meltdown . On the political front I would not consider myself a liberal, on the social front I would not consider myself a liberal either. Centre left maybe. Maybe. Your predictions about people are as bad your views on most things.
 
SalimBhai said:
Your comments are laughable. Seems like you are having a meltdown . On the political front I would not consider myself a liberal, on the social front I would not consider myself a liberal either. Centre left maybe. Maybe. Your predictions about people are as bad your views on most things.
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When you have nothing to argue, then call others as having a meltdown, Are you sure, you are not having a meltdown? LOL

You are a liberal, you have a problem with religion and traditional values in general and it can be easily jugded from your posts here.
 
SalimBhai said:
Your comments are laughable. Seems like you are having a meltdown . On the political front I would not consider myself a liberal, on the social front I would not consider myself a liberal either. Centre left maybe. Maybe. Your predictions about people are as bad your views on most things.
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Off topic, but what’s the difference in political front and social front? Aren’t Social views are a sub set of political views, which consists of economic + social views?

Having said that, this is indeed very simplistic in this day and age, especially the social views. While earlier you would have never thought gays/lesbians as politically right, it happens more often than I would have thought.
 
szrana007 said:
When you have nothing to argue, then call others as having a meltdown, Are you sure, you are not having a meltdown? LOL

You are a liberal, you have a problem with religion and traditional values in general and it can be easily jugded from your posts here.
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People on all spectrum of politics can have problems with religion. You are terrible at predicting. Stick to what you do best. Also this thread is about your boy Sheikh Andrew Tate.
 
Sidilicious said:
Off topic, but what’s the difference in political front and social front? Aren’t Social views are a sub set of political views, which consists of economic + social views?

Having said that, this is indeed very simplistic in this day and age, especially the social views. While earlier you would have never thought gays/lesbians as politically right, it happens more often than I would have thought.
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You could be conservative when it comes to government policies, spending, foreign policy , but could be liberal on social issues , gay marriage, housing and so on …
 
SalimBhai said:
Your comments are laughable. Seems like you are having a meltdown . On the political front I would not consider myself a liberal, on the social front I would not consider myself a liberal either. Centre left maybe. Maybe. Your predictions about people are as bad your views on most things.
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In my observation, most atheists/agnostics are slavish followers of liberalism. They think they are so called "free thinkers" yet they are cheap social imitators who just follow the dominant ideology of liberalism in today's world.
 
Sidilicious said:
Off topic, but what’s the difference in political front and social front? Aren’t Social views are a sub set of political views, which consists of economic + social views?

Having said that, this is indeed very simplistic in this day and age, especially the social views. While earlier you would have never thought gays/lesbians as politically right, it happens more often than I would have thought.
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I know gay people who are right wingers. I know lefties who are super religious. So there is plenty of diversity of opinion.
 
szrana007 said:
What predicting? LOL

You support LGBT, feminism etc. all of which are liberal ideologies. Its pretty clear you are a liberal but won't accept it. Atleast have the courage to own who your are, lol

It seems you are burnt very hard cause I busted the myth of your "free thinking"
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Yes, most of these free thinkers are just liberals, who believe in liberal democracy, women rights and LGBT rights.
 
KingKhanWC said:
One study.
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There are many studies. I just don't know how to link on here, the one's I have I can copy and paste link, the others require pdf and or sharing but there is a plethora of studies showing that religious people have a _greater_ propensity to believe in conspiracy theories.

Which you forgot to read properly esp when addressing mostly Muslims on here.

"A limitation to the study was that it examined mainly Christian samples, and the results may not generalize to other religions"

It can be called a Christian study, thats all.
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Christianity is a religion. As for Muslims I don't need a study, the evidence is on this forum, all the believers of an evil cabal of satanists/zionists/illuminati/matrix on this forum are Muslims.

Most people dont believe the governments esp western governments , there are studies which show this too.



https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Polit...fs-about-WMDs-in-Iraq-and-Obama-s-birth-place
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61 per cent is still lower than than the percentage of people in US who believe in God so? And I am talking about a certain type of conspiracy theory - the one that states that there is an evil cabal controlling or trying to control the world - an evil group who has it in for Muslims.

Besides Im here to debate you. :)

Fancy it?
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No thanks.

1. Do you believe everything your government says? Where do you live for reference.
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No

2. Do you believe Andrew Tates view on Covid?

3. Andrews view on Epstein?

4. Andrews view on Russia/Ukraine?
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Haven't paid much attention to his views so I can't comment.
 
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