[VIDEOS] Andrew Tate and brother Tristan to be tried in Romania on rape and trafficking charges [Update on post #1294]

[90MPH]

I looked into the various courses he offers to get these kids out of the matrix. It’s the same old hoax sold by other snake oil salesmen - Amazon fba etc etc, and charges $50 a month.

He is just very charming and his brand sells.

People need to realise there is no matrix. The only matrix is in your mind which makes these kids look for easy way out rather than believing in the value of hard work, risk appetite and skills.

Be it pulling girls, getting fit and making money. They all can be achieved with the above 3.

There are too many gullible people unfortunately who are looking to become rich in a very small amount of time.

And there are plenty of hustlers and conman ready to sell them these quick rich schemes.

Andrew Tate is actually a very good speaker. It’s easy to understand why people get influenced by him especially those with nothing going for them in life.

I myself nearly fell for a pyramid scheme some 6/7 years ago but luckily my 6th sense kicked in as something didn’t feel right.
It’s with great trepidation to say I personally know family members and friends that have lost thousands because they get so easily duped by these con artists.

Government needs to bring in stronger laws to protect vulnerable people. Social apps like Facebook and Instagram have only made things much worse.

 

[SalimBhai]

Epstien , Prince Andrew, Clintons are YOUR heros as they are from the lands of the brave and free. This is why youre mute on their threads, you probably are inspired by them. Ironic as your accent will never see you as an American.

Dude why are you worried my accent. As I said I came here as a child so I guess picked up on the USa accent. I think you are projecting . In the USA Pakistani Americans are on the top of the food chain . British Pakistanis at the bottom of the food chain. So I can see where your insecurities come from. Hope you get help. There is plenty of help in the uk off mental health. Also when I go to Pakistan I can seamlessly blend in like I left yesterday. I am sure you have an accent. But anyway none of that matters as I don’t put any importance in trivial things like that. Prince Andrew is English I think you support his lifestyle by paying taxes. Epstein is a criminal and I never supported him I don’t see the world through religious or nationalist lens. So I can call out when I find something to be wrong. We can see you have an issue with that and history of supporting vile, tin pot dictators and rapists.

 

[SalimBhai]

Lots of ifs and buts about Epstein or Prince Andrew converting to Islam and being accepted by the Muslim brotherhood. Why? Did they convert? No? So I guess that just makes them non-Muslim paedos then. That is the actual truth of it. Maybe they had the same disgusting urges as a non-Mulsim Tate did in his days of alleged rapery. All these offences were committed by non-Muslims right? Am I correct?

The sheikhs religion has nothing to do with . He was a rapist , sex trafficker and a pedo and I am sure he still is.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Those are referring to an incident in 2013 when Tate was a non-Muslim. May Allah guide him to a better path now that he has accepted Islam. Ameen.

That’s a good get out of jail card for any criminal it seems lol

 

[sweep_shot]

That’s a good get out of jail card for any criminal it seems lol

Are you saying people can't change?

Umar (RA) was an enemy of Islam before he converted to Islam. There was a Dutch politician who used to be hostile toward Islam. He eventually converted to Islam.

People can change. We shouldn't try to judge intentions of people. Leave judgment to Allah (SWT).

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Are you saying people can't change?

Umar (RA) was an enemy of Islam before he converted to Islam. There was a Dutch politician who used to be hostile toward Islam. He eventually converted to Islam.

People can change. We shouldn't try to judge intentions of people. Leave judgment to Allah (SWT).

They can change yes. But they need to be punished for their crimes first

 

[sweep_shot]

They can change yes. But they need to be punished for their crimes first

If he is guilty, he should be punished. I agree.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The sheikhs religion has nothing to do with . He was a rapist , sex trafficker and a pedo and I am sure he still is.

When you call him Sheikh, then don't get defensive when I clarify that he was a NON-MUSLIM when he was doing the alleged raping and pornography. You know this must be true. Beyond doubt.

 

[SalimBhai]

When you call him Sheikh, then don't get defensive when I clarify that he was a NON-MUSLIM when he was doing the alleged raping and pornography. You know this must be true. Beyond doubt.

He prefers to be called sheikh since he has co better to Islam. Please go on Twitter and read up a bit.

 

[SalimBhai]

I usually call people what they like to be called respectfully. He prefers to be called sheikh. Please obey has wish.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

He prefers to be called sheikh since he has co better to Islam. Please go on Twitter and read up a bit.

I am addressing your references to his alleged rapes and pornography which you yourself time-stamped at a time when he was - wait for it - a NON-MUSLIM.

If it still hasn't sunk in, I can bold it as well next time.

 

[SalimBhai]

I am addressing your references to his alleged rapes and pornography which you yourself time-stamped at a time when he was - wait for it - a NON-MUSLIM.

If it still hasn't sunk in, I can bold it as well next time.

Dude what are you on about. He is a Muslim low. He prefers to be called sheikh. Hence I obliged. Man’s religion has nothing to with his crimes. Being Muslim does not wash away his sins nor being a Christian. I am JUST calling him sheikh because he has i stricter his people to address as such. Respect his wish

 

[SalimBhai]

Have you not seen tapes and audio of him bragging about his crimes? You sure are generous when it comes to judging him and jump on others without proof . Especially women.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Dude what are you on about. He is a Muslim low. He prefers to be called sheikh. Hence I obliged. Man’s religion has nothing to with his crimes. Being Muslim does not wash away his sins nor being a Christian. I am JUST calling him sheikh because he has i stricter his people to address as such. Respect his wish

Salimbahi, I have no problem with him calling himself sheikh, he can call himself Muhammad Ali for all I care. I am just pointing out that when he committed all those horrible crimes including rape (allegedly) and the pornography, he was indeed a......drumroll....... NON-MUSLIM.

Can you deny this very evident and provable FACT?

 

[sweep_shot]

Have you not seen tapes and audio of him bragging about his crimes? You sure are generous when it comes to judging him and jump on others without proof . Especially women.

When did he brag? Timing is key. Did he brag before converting or after converting?

If he indeed committed those crimes, he should be jailed/penalized. Nobody is saying otherwise.

 

[SalimBhai]

His religion has no bearing on the sheikhs crime . That’s the whole point. And it’s something you are not understanding. He could be a Muslim, atheist, Hindu. He would still be a scumbag. That’s my point.

 

[IMMY69]

Salimbahi, I have no problem with him calling himself sheikh, he can call himself Muhammad Ali for all I care. I am just pointing out that when he committed all those horrible crimes including rape (allegedly) and the pornography, he was indeed a......drumroll....... NON-MUSLIM.

Can you deny this very evident and provable FACT?

You touch upon an a very interesting point.
Could this be why so many convicts convert to Islam?

 

[sweep_shot]

His religion has no bearing on the sheikhs crime . That’s the whole point. And it’s something you are not understanding. He could be a Muslim, atheist, Hindu. He would still be a scumbag. That’s my point.

If he has converted to Islam, shown remorse for his past actions, and gets jailed/penalized/fined for his past mistakes, he should be welcomed after he serves his time.

Are you saying he doesn't deserve a second chance? Were you a saint all of your life?

 

[SalimBhai]

Once he has done his time . He should be treated fairly.

 

[Technics 1210]

Itachi implosion!

Honestly, Islamophobes pretending they do not care about Tate, but they care more about Islam! Liberalism for you!

 

[SalimBhai]

From sheikh andrew tate brother
My brother has received thousands of letters from Muslim supporters around the world.

Not a single Christian has sent me a letter.

 

[SalimBhai]

If he has converted to Islam, shown remorse for his past actions, and gets jailed/penalized/fined for his past mistakes, he should be welcomed after he serves his time.

Are you saying he doesn't deserve a second chance? Were you a saint all of your life?

I wish you were so accommodating to other people with your judgement like you are to the sheikh.

 

[sweep_shot]

I wish you were so accommodating to other people with your judgement like you are to the sheikh.

I always try to be fair.

Can you pinpoint one case where I was unfairly judgmental?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

His religion has no bearing on the sheikhs crime . That’s the whole point. And it’s something you are not understanding. He could be a Muslim, atheist, Hindu. He would still be a scumbag. That’s my point.

Yes but as you can continually refer to him being a sheikh when referring to his crime, I am merely saying that when he committed these heinous crimes he was in fact.....a NON-MUSLIM

This is just a fact. Do you deny it?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You touch upon an a very interesting point.
Could this be why so many convicts convert to Islam?

I am sure there are many reasons, one of them might be they get detoxed from drugs and alcohol while incarcerated and for the first time develop some sense of purpose.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Just because he's supposedly had an epiphany doesn't absolve him of his previous actions, including those that were seriously amoral, let alone the ones he's being charged for.

Only recently he was bragging about his cars and how they're killing teh environment. Maybe he ought to learn humility first before he besmirch Islam further by cloaking himself as a Muslim.

 

[Technics 1210]

Just because he's supposedly had an epiphany doesn't absolve him of his previous actions, including those that were seriously amoral, let alone the ones he's being charged for.

Only recently he was bragging about his cars and how they're killing teh environment. Maybe he ought to learn humility first before he besmirch Islam further by cloaking himself as a Muslim.

Save the drama, you judged him guilty before a trial and claimed he had commited crimes.

Muslims do not judge. Learn the basics of Islam before defending it.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Save the drama, you judged him guilty before a trial and claimed he had commited crimes.

Muslims do not judge. Learn the basics of Islam before defending it.

This is true. I am actually a pretty poor example of a Muslim myself, but this principle of giving the benefit of the doubt has always struck me as a noble principle. Why shouldn't a man have the chance to turn his life around? If he turns out to be nothing more than a hustler, the truth will be exposed, we don't need to silence him and his supporters, we should be able to let truth find it's way through debate and reason.

This gossip auntie mentality of "look what he did before" really drives me up the wall. Epecially if you knew what he did before and let it stew until it suited your purposes.

 

[MenInG]

Just so you are clear and will not do it again.

A Shiekh in Islam is a man of great knowledge and piety.

Do not use this term even in jest on this forum. Clear?

 

[MenInG]

Just so you are clear and will not do it again.

A Shiekh in Islam is a man of great knowledge and piety.

Do not use this term even in jest on this forum. Clear?

Please read this and don't repeat.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

If you go on Twitter you will see majority of supporters are British Muslim men British Pakistanis to be more precÃ*sese. If there is one group that has an ide Doty crises itÂ’s British Pakistanis in my opinion. So not surprised to see so many of them on Twitter singing the sheikhs praise.

Confused about what? Also, just some advice, please use a different keyboard, no idea what is happening there.

 

[daytrader]

Andrew Tate: Romanian police widen probe into controversial influencer

Romanian police are expanding their investigation into former kickboxing champion Andrew Tate, seizing a fleet of luxury cars from his Bucharest compound over the weekend, and raiding seven more properties - including a newly renovated villa beneath the Carpathian Mountains.

The sight of Mr Tate's shiny dove-grey Porsche perched delicately on the battered frame of a police tow truck neatly captured his shift in fortunes as, through the high black gates of his compound, a slow procession of trucks carried his prized collection of luxury cars to join him in police custody.

At the side of the road, a single fan stood watching. "I consider myself a fan," Emmanuel told me. "Every boy likes his lifestyle.

"I don't like what I'm hearing about him, but we'll see if it's true. I'll change my attitude if I see proof."

Some here see the confiscation of the cars as a sign that the Romanian authorities are preparing for the next stage in this case, securing assets as collateral against potential compensation claims from victims, in the event that Andrew Tate or his brother Tristan are charged with people trafficking.

Raids on seven more properties last week are widely seen as a sign that investigators are expanding their search for evidence in the case.

...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64285341

 

[ex-q-zit]

In Influencer Andrew Tate Case, $4 Million Worth Assets Seized In Romania

Romanian authorities said they have seized goods and money worth 18 million lei ($3.95 million) as a part of a criminal inquiry into alleged human trafficking that led to the arrest of divisive internet personality Andrew Tate.

In the past week, the National Agency for the Management of Seized Assets has taken into administration 29 movable assets, including luxury vehicles and watches, and various amounts of cash in different currencies, it said in a statement late on Saturday.

On Saturday, a Reuters reporter saw several cars, including a Rolls-Royce, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz, being taken from Tate's compound on the outskirts of the capital, Bucharest, to be transported to a storage location.

Andrew Tate, his brother, and two Romanian female suspects were detained on Dec. 29 on charges of forming a criminal gang to exploit six women sexually. They have denied wrongdoing.

The detained challenged their 30-day arrest warrant, but the Bucharest court of appeals rejected the challenge this week and said they should remain in police custody.

Andrew Tate, a former contestant on the UK reality show Big Brother, gained notoriety for misogynistic remarks and hate speech.

His remarks got him banned from all major social media platforms, although his Twitter account became active again in November after Elon Musk acquired the platform.

Tate, who holds U.S. and British nationality, has said women are partially responsible for being raped and that they belong to men.

NDTV

 

[KingKhanWC]

It seems the prosecution have found nothing or not enough evidence for charges so far.

Its going to be a huge embarrasment if he isnt charged and will only fuel his views.

 

[SalimBhai]

“Tate utilises your insecurity to offer you the illusion of greatness, and the fear of losing this illusion tricks your emotions into attaching to him.

It is a cult, you can leave it”

 

[KingKhanWC]

“Tate utilises your insecurity to offer you the illusion of greatness, and the fear of losing this illusion tricks your emotions into attaching to him.

It is a cult, you can leave it”

According to the woke liberal idiots.

Traditional values are the best. Unless one wants his woman to do the heavy lifting while he sits at home sewing.

 

[SalimBhai]

According to the woke liberal idiots.

Traditional values are the best. Unless one wants his woman to do the heavy lifting while he sits at home sewing.

Yes he is for traditional values alright. Pedo and sex trafficking and rape. The cornerstones of traditional values

 

[sweep_shot]

Yes he is for traditional values alright. Pedo and sex trafficking and rape. The cornerstones of traditional values

Regardless of what he has done in the past (allegedly), his current views are in sync with traditional family values. Please check his past video:

 

[SalimBhai]

Regardless of what he has done in the past (allegedly), his current views are in sync with traditional family values. Please check his past video:

Dear sweepshot.
As said many times before. If convicted he still has to do time. There are videos of him saying he had sex with an underage girl , sex trafficking, raping. For that if convicted he has to go to jail. And I say if convicted because he has plenty of money and this is Romania after all. Having said that this is just my opinion and an opinion of most people that I know. He is taking you for a ride with this Muslim conversion. If he is found not guilty and is back in public life , I am willing to bet he will be caught up in the same things as before. Also to you personally. You are giving him a massive benefit of the doubt when you accuse people on a drop of a dime. ( please see Iranian revolution thread ).

 

[KingKhanWC]

Yes he is for traditional values alright. Pedo and sex trafficking and rape. The cornerstones of traditional values

He is not convicted and neither is Joe Biden the President of your beloved secular nation. Why not attack Joe Biden as you do with Tate? Biden is also accused of groping children, in fact there are many videos of him doing so.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Lol Tate is a non entity and we have people here thinking he’s a target of some global conspiracy. LMAOO

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Lol Tate is a non entity and we have people here thinking he’s a target of some global conspiracy. LMAOO

He might have been a non-entity a year ago, but non-entities don't get banned from social media for being too influential or get headlines in world renowned news media mouthpieces. If you are going to use one liners as an argument, at least get that one line right.

 

[SalimBhai]

He might have been a non-entity a year ago, but non-entities don't get banned from social media for being too influential or get headlines in world renowned news media mouthpieces. If you are going to use one liners as an argument, at least get that one line right.

He is famous just like kardashian is famous. However among the British Pakistanis he has a cult following. Every follower of his on Twitter still supporting him is British pakistani. ( most not all. , some white people still support him )

 

[sweep_shot]

Lol Tate is a non entity and we have people here thinking he’s a target of some global conspiracy. LMAOO

He is probably a non-entity in subcontinent but he is a major figure in west. You don't get an interview with Piers Morgan if you are a non-entity.

 

[Technics 1210]

He is probably a non-entity in subcontinent but he is a major figure in west. You don't get an interview with Piers Morgan if you are a non-entity.

He had 2 interviews with PM, however, teachers in the UK are guiding students on how not to be influenced by Tate.

When it gets to this level, non-entity claim is a joke!

 

[Heisenberg111]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1615331148783288320

Tate says that his case isn't criminal but political. He says that powerful Romanian elites want him in jail.
@<a href="http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/member.php?u=93712" target="_blank">MenInG</a> , please post the video in the tweet.

 

[sweep_shot]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1615331148783288320

Tate says that his case isn't criminal but political. He says that powerful Romanian elites want him in jail.

@<a href="http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/member.php?u=93712" target="_blank">MenInG</a> , please post the video in the tweet.

I was a bit surprised he decided to stay in Romania. He should've moved to UAE or something.

 

[Local.Dada]

I think he said he is a Muslim even though from what little I have seen, his lifestyle is far off from a pious Muslim. However that’s a good enoguh sales pitch.

Let’s see: well groomed decent looking guy who speaks good English and says is a Muslim and makes politically incorrect statements and a lot of western-Muslims (for lack of a better term) are sold on it. Where have we seen that before?

 

[sweep_shot]

I think he said he is a Muslim even though from what little I have seen, his lifestyle is far off from a pious Muslim. However that’s a good enoguh sales pitch.

Let’s see: well groomed decent looking guy who speaks good English and says is a Muslim and makes politically incorrect statements and a lot of western-Muslims (for lack of a better term) are sold on it. Where have we seen that before?

He only converted recently. He is still learning. It can take months for a person to get used to with a new system.

He is on the right track I believe.

It is funny all the Islamophobes are experiencing constipations. They probably wouldn't care if he was not a Muslim.

 

[Heisenberg111]

I was a bit surprised he decided to stay in Romania. He should've moved to UAE or something.

I think the Romanian authorities "seduced" him

 

[SalimBhai]

He only converted recently. He is still learning. It can take months for a person to get used to with a new system.

He is on the right track I believe.

It is funny all the Islamophobes are experiencing constipations. They probably wouldn't care if he was not a Muslim.

I think the interesting point is that he claims to be religious while his actions say otherwise.

 

[Bewal Express]

Kids of all races love him, he is seen as entertaining and has made an excellent living. I am not buying into this idea of him being any muslim, he is very intelligent porn baron and is out to make money.

 

[SalimBhai]

Nothing sells like religion He is smart for sure

 

[sweep_shot]

Nothing sells like religion He is smart for sure

Not everyone sees religion like a commodity to sell.

I am sure you do not have the superpower to read someone's mind.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Kids of all races love him, he is seen as entertaining and has made an excellent living. I am not buying into this idea of him being any muslim, he is very intelligent porn baron and is out to make money.

In the time of the Prophet(pbuh) Khalid ibn Walid(ra) had killed numerous Muslims but after converting ended up as the greatest military general in history. When someone converts, firstly you should accept their conversion and secondly you shouldn't keep brining up his past unless you can prove he is lying.

His fame blew up when he was a Non-Muslim.

 

[SalimBhai]

Not everyone sees religion like a commodity to sell.

I am sure you do not have the superpower to read someone's mind.

I don’t have the superpower but by looking at videos and seeing His character I can make a guess. A good guess

 

[SalimBhai]

Not everyone sees religion like a commodity to sell.

I am sure you do not have the superpower to read someone's mind.

Also this is very rich coming from you. You have claimed woman who are protesting in iran to let me quote “ have a low gpa “. You just have real super powers. Double standards anyone??

 

[Bewal Express]

In the time of the Prophet(pbuh) Khalid ibn Walid(ra) had killed numerous Muslims but after converting ended up as the greatest military general in history. When someone converts, firstly you should accept their conversion and secondly you shouldn't keep brining up his past unless you can prove he is lying.

His fame blew up when he was a Non-Muslim.

Whether I accept or not makes no difference. What I do know is that if you accept Islam and you make millions from selling pornography, something is amiss.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Whether I accept or not makes no difference. What I do know is that if you accept Islam and you make millions from selling pornography, something is amiss.

He's only been Muslim for a matter of weeks. He's stopped drinking booze from what I know. I dont know the inside out of his life but those millions were made before he conversion.

You do realise a new convert is totally sinless, less than us. Besides its up to the Lord to judge not us on here esp when we are guessing.

 

[Bewal Express]

He's only been Muslim for a matter of weeks. He's stopped drinking booze from what I know. I dont know the inside out of his life but those millions were made before he conversion.

You do realise a new convert is totally sinless, less than us. Besides its up to the Lord to judge not us on here esp when we are guessing.

Allah will judge and as I said it makes no difference whether I believe he is sincere or not.

 

[Cricket-lion]

It seems like some people have issues with British Pakistanis As in, they live in a free country and have their own views. Tate is not convicted so speculations are just dumb or agenda driven.

 

[the Great Khan]

He's only been Muslim for a matter of weeks. He's stopped drinking booze from what I know. I dont know the inside out of his life but those millions were made before he conversion.

You do realise a new convert is totally sinless, less than us. Besides its up to the Lord to judge not us on here esp when we are guessing.

Unfortunately for me he has a lot to prove. Also his ideas of masculinity and his businesses are haraam. Will he stop these? Also as i mentioned above before it was deleted for some reason my 15 yr old saw through him. A pity others can't. We shouldn't be encouraging our youngsters towards such characters.

 

[SalimBhai]

Andrew Tate's own lawyer dismissed his conspiratorial claim that 'The Matrix' is out to get him


https://www.insider.com/andrew-tate-lawyer-dismisses-matrix-conspiracy-in-interview-2023-1?amp

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Unfortunately for me he has a lot to prove. Also his ideas of masculinity and his businesses are haraam. Will he stop these? Also as i mentioned above before it was deleted for some reason my 15 yr old saw through him. A pity others can't. We shouldn't be encouraging our youngsters towards such characters.

How is that different from multitudes of other Muslims who run haram businesses or have warped ideas about masculinity? Do they become non-Muslims? A lot of them are much worse in that they are born in Islam but wilfully go against it in order to make money, at least with Tate his haram business was launched and monetised as a Christian. I think whether we approve of it or not, once he has said the shahada he has to be judged from that point on. KKWC is right, what he has done in the past must be judged from his Christian principles which he declared at the time.

I think this religious slant is polarising opinions unnecessarily, especially as his unapologetic views seem to have made him an icon for many younger people regardless of their faith. Better just to judge him on what he says and dissect those views, assuming they are still current, forget about the religious aspect. Although that's asking a lot on here.

 

[the Great Khan]

How is that different from multitudes of other Muslims who run haram businesses or have warped ideas about masculinity? Do they become non-Muslims? A lot of them are much worse in that they are born in Islam but wilfully go against it in order to make money, at least with Tate his haram business was launched and monetised as a Christian. I think whether we approve of it or not, once he has said the shahada he has to be judged from that point on. KKWC is right, what he has done in the past must be judged from his Christian principles which he declared at the time.

I think this religious slant is polarising opinions unnecessarily, especially as his unapologetic views seem to have made him an icon for many younger people regardless of their faith. Better just to judge him on what he says and dissect those views, assuming they are still current, forget about the religious aspect. Although that's asking a lot on here.

It's slightly different but I see your point. However I feel if you revert and are a celebrity then there is an extra responsibility upon you especially in today's world. Let's wait and see. Inmho I consider him a nobody and somebody who is frankly irrelevant to the wider discourse. But at the same time I see his influence on young Muslims as detrimental.

 

[SalimBhai]

Andrew Tates prison stay extended till end of February.

 

[MenInG]

Influencer Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan are to stay in custody until 27 February after a Romanian court extended their detention by police.

The pair are being investigated over allegations of sexual assault and exploitation and a judge has ruled they will be kept in prison for a further 30 days while police build their case.

The reasons for this extension will be given in a written statement later.

Tate and his brother both deny the allegations against them.

Authorities claim the brothers have been part of an organised crime group that exploited women by forcing them to create pornographic content. But no charges have been brought against the brothers yet.

The former kickboxer has millions of online followers - despite being banned from sites including TikTok, Instagram, Facebook and YouTube for misogynistic comments.

He moved to Bucharest five years ago and was arrested last month after his house was raided.

Lawyers for the Tate brothers argued prosecutors had not presented any new evidence in their application to extend the detention period and had said before the latest hearing that they were "optimistic" that it would be denied.

BBC

 

[shaz619]

How are they able to keep them for so long if there is little evidence?

Isn’t this unethical…

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

How are they able to keep them for so long if there is little evidence?

Isn’t this unethical…

Who’s saying there’s little evidence. Tate’s lawyer lol?

 

[SalimBhai]

Tates lawyer laughed when asked about the matrix. I found that to be hilarious

 

[KingKhanWC]

Unfortunately for me he has a lot to prove. Also his ideas of masculinity and his businesses are haraam. Will he stop these? Also as i mentioned above before it was deleted for some reason my 15 yr old saw through him. A pity others can't. We shouldn't be encouraging our youngsters towards such characters.

I have no idea about his personal life, never met the chap and dont really watch his videos. Ive seen probably around 30 mins in total. As I wrote early when he was arrested if he is indeed guilty, he should be given the maximum punishment.

My issues are 1. He spoke out against Ukraine Nato proxy war, Covid lies, climate change agenda etc. More people watch him than BBC, CNN, Sky News combined. It seems like Asaange, where fake rape charges were made up , same thing here.

2. Islamaphobes have jumped on this, they need to be refuted as the low life people they are.

How are they able to keep them for so long if there is little evidence?

Isn’t this unethical…

 

[KingKhanWC]

Unfortunately for me he has a lot to prove. Also his ideas of masculinity and his businesses are haraam. Will he stop these? Also as i mentioned above before it was deleted for some reason my 15 yr old saw through him. A pity others can't. We shouldn't be encouraging our youngsters towards such characters.

I have no idea about his personal life, never met the chap and dont really watch his videos. Ive seen probably around 30 mins in total. As I wrote early when he was arrested if he is indeed guilty, he should be given the maximum punishment.

My issues are 1. He spoke out against Ukraine Nato proxy war, Covid lies, climate change agenda etc. More people watch him than BBC, CNN, Sky News combined. It seems like Asaange, where fake rape charges were made up , same thing here.

2. Islamaphobes have jumped on this, they need to be refuted as the low life people they are.

How are they able to keep them for so long if there is little evidence?

Isn’t this unethical…

 

[Waq]

How are they able to keep them for so long if there is little evidence?

Isn’t this unethical…

I have no idea the actual strength of evidence against Tate but I do know that the official Romanian police statement immediately after the arrest was full of conjecture and bias and lacked objectivity.

It appears that Romanian criminal law is only similar for the UK in terms of police having 24 hours to hold you and gather evidence to charge or release you on bail or no further action etc. In the UK, 24 hours can be extended to 72 hours without charge with superintendent authority and only used in very serious crimes such as murder. Also in the UK, the only crime where you can hold somebody for 28 days without charge is terrorism.

In the case of Tate and the Romanian legal system, he effectively would have been held without charge for 60 days! Surely by now their equivalent of the CPS has enough evidence to charge him and simply hold him in prison charged for court and not give him bail?

I’m intrigued by this case as there has been search warrants, arrests of 6 people, bail denied and asset seized and all without evidence to bring charges!

 

[KingKhanWC]

How are they able to keep them for so long if there is little evidence?

Isn’t this unethical…

Its Romania, a corrupt eastern european nation.

His Lawyer is from Worcester and a team from Romanian. They feel there is no evidence, so lets see.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I have no idea the actual strength of evidence against Tate but I do know that the official Romanian police statement immediately after the arrest was full of conjecture and bias and lacked objectivity.

It appears that Romanian criminal law is only similar for the UK in terms of police having 24 hours to hold you and gather evidence to charge or release you on bail or no further action etc. In the UK, 24 hours can be extended to 72 hours without charge with superintendent authority and only used in very serious crimes such as murder. Also in the UK, the only crime where you can hold somebody for 28 days without charge is terrorism.

In the case of Tate and the Romanian legal system, he effectively would have been held without charge for 60 days! Surely by now their equivalent of the CPS has enough evidence to charge him and simply hold him in prison charged for court and not give him bail?

I’m intrigued by this case as there has been search warrants, arrests of 6 people, bail denied and asset seized and all without evidence to bring charges!

I believe he is a US citizen. Do you think he is getting help from their emabassy?

 

[KingKhanWC]

I have no idea the actual strength of evidence against Tate but I do know that the official Romanian police statement immediately after the arrest was full of conjecture and bias and lacked objectivity.

It appears that Romanian criminal law is only similar for the UK in terms of police having 24 hours to hold you and gather evidence to charge or release you on bail or no further action etc. In the UK, 24 hours can be extended to 72 hours without charge with superintendent authority and only used in very serious crimes such as murder. Also in the UK, the only crime where you can hold somebody for 28 days without charge is terrorism.

In the case of Tate and the Romanian legal system, he effectively would have been held without charge for 60 days! Surely by now their equivalent of the CPS has enough evidence to charge him and simply hold him in prison charged for court and not give him bail?

I’m intrigued by this case as there has been search warrants, arrests of 6 people, bail denied and asset seized and all without evidence to bring charges!

I believe he is a US citizen. Do you think he is getting help from their emabassy?

 

[Waq]

I believe he is a US citizen. Do you think he is getting help from their emabassy?

I’m not sure whether he is a US citizen but they will offer consular support to ensure that correct legal process is being followed and clearly the answer is yes.

On another note, I saw some of Tate’s non controversial videos and be made some good points when he wasn’t being sexist or looking for headlines. But in the last few days, I saw a video of Tates from his hustlers university where he openly admitted how he coerced multiple girlfriends to become web cam girls and his words, he pimped them as an asset and controlled them further by doing their tax returns so he can control them. After seeing that, my view is that he is a **** bag and if he has changed as a human because of wisdom or becoming a Muslim then he still has to be accountable for past crimes - that’s I’ve seen from the internet and admitted

 

[KingKhanWC]

I’m not sure whether he is a US citizen but they will offer consular support to ensure that correct legal process is being followed and clearly the answer is yes.

On another note, I saw some of Tate’s non controversial videos and be made some good points when he wasn’t being sexist or looking for headlines. But in the last few days, I saw a video of Tates from his hustlers university where he openly admitted how he coerced multiple girlfriends to become web cam girls and his words, he pimped them as an asset and controlled them further by doing their tax returns so he can control them. After seeing that, my view is that he is a **** bag and if he has changed as a human because of wisdom or becoming a Muslim then he still has to be accountable for past crimes - that’s I’ve seen from the internet and admitted

Not seen the video. His lawyer says the girls had all the freedom, went out shopping ,had mobile phones. Doesnt sound like pimping to me. Interesting watch below.

 

[sweep_shot]

Not seen the video. His lawyer says the girls had all the freedom, went out shopping ,had mobile phones. Doesnt sound like pimping to me. Interesting watch below.

Indeed.

He mentioned in an interview that he was not a religious person before; he used to party with girls and whatnot. He then became a Christian and eventually converted to Islam.

People who are blaming him are consistently bringing up his past life.

Again, if he is guilty, he deserves to serve time in prison. No doubt. But, it seems like some people are judging him a bit too much.

 

[shaz619]

How are they able to keep them for so long if there is little evidence?

Isn’t this unethical…

Who’s saying there’s little evidence. Tate’s lawyer lol?

I have no idea the actual strength of evidence against Tate but I do know that the official Romanian police statement immediately after the arrest was full of conjecture and bias and lacked objectivity.

It appears that Romanian criminal law is only similar for the UK in terms of police having 24 hours to hold you and gather evidence to charge or release you on bail or no further action etc. In the UK, 24 hours can be extended to 72 hours without charge with superintendent authority and only used in very serious crimes such as murder. Also in the UK, the only crime where you can hold somebody for 28 days without charge is terrorism.

In the case of Tate and the Romanian legal system, he effectively would have been held without charge for 60 days! Surely by now their equivalent of the CPS has enough evidence to charge him and simply hold him in prison charged for court and not give him bail?

I’m intrigued by this case as there has been search warrants, arrests of 6 people, bail denied and asset seized and all without evidence to bring charges!

Two distinct replies to the same post with one of them being extremely autistic.

Thanks Waq, I presumed the same; to hold someone this long you ought to expect serious charges by now, do they need more time to create evidence?