[VIDEOS] Andrew Tate and brother Tristan to be tried in Romania on rape and trafficking charges [Update on post #1294]

First it was they are not allowed to do this or that but when proof came they were free to do as they please, now they come up oh the girls are brainwashed so cant think for themselves. :))

Of course Romainia is a backward nation in terms of politcis and law. It was likely to be other western nations paying them off to arrest the brothers. Prob some old politicians who are in love with Greta Thunberg and are part of the WEF/western imperialism.

It might just be Romania is a really patriarchal society so doesn't take the views of women seriously. Perhaps they feel that women can't possibly be trusted to be capable of making a mature judgement and so it is better for the court to decide their intentions for them.
 
It might just be Romania is a really patriarchal society so doesn't take the views of women seriously. Perhaps they feel that women can't possibly be trusted to be capable of making a mature judgement and so it is better for the court to decide their intentions for them.

This is what the magistrate clearly feels.

If this goes to trial it will be interesting to see if the report holds up or would the witness statements be taken as truth.

In any sane legal system , they would be relased on bail. Their passports would of course be taken away and they would possibly need to sign in to the police station daily. Liberals are suggesting they will abscond and run off but this is as lame as an excuse you can have.
 
Romania rule of law is corrupt, it doesnt mean people cant live there.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ew-Tate-brainwashed-Romanian-judges-rule.html

:))

So the women stated they ARE NOT victims in any sense yet some geeky psychologist stated they are brainwashed.

Shows how stupid Romainian courts are and how corrupt their legal system is.

Romania is making themsleves look like real idiots, which will slow down their tourism for sure.

This really sums it up, no proof, so they re making it up it seems.

I think the Romanian authorities have been co-opted by the US deep state here and the deep state is calling the shots.
 
This really sums it up, no proof, so they re making it up it seems.

I think the Romanian authorities have been co-opted by the US deep state here and the deep state is calling the shots.

You may also enjoy this, really good work from this independent journalist.

 

Here on Piers Morgan show, Tate's lawyer says that the Tate brothers are being held in prison without charges.

There is no criminal evidence against the brothers, they should be free before the trial but their freedom has been unfairly curtailed by detaining them.
 

Here on Piers Morgan show, Tate's lawyer says that the Tate brothers are being held in prison without charges.

There is no criminal evidence against the brothers, they should be free before the trial but their freedom has been unfairly curtailed by detaining them.

I have to say that this whole case against Tate is turning out to be a farce.
 
A British woman who says she was in a relationship with controversial social media influencer Andrew Tate has told the BBC how he encouraged her to work for his webcam company, before becoming controlling and violent.

"It's very difficult because I don't feel like a victim - all of the choices I made were of my [own] free will. He didn't bundle me up into a bag, throw me in the back of a lorry and drive me there," says Sophie.

"But he knew what he was doing. At what point does the emotional or psychological manipulation turn into being forced to do something?"

Andrew Tate - and his brother Tristan - are in custody in Romania while police investigate allegations of rape and trafficking.

Prosecutors allege the pair recruited victims by seducing them and falsely claiming they wanted to have a relationship - which police have dubbed "the lover-boy method". Victims were then forced or manipulated into working in their adult entertainment chat rooms.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-64475908
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I updated my will from prison.<br><br>I will be donating 100 million to start a charity to protect men from false accusations.</p>— Andrew Tate (@Cobratate) <a href="https://twitter.com/Cobratate/status/1622206731869626379?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Controversial influencer Andrew Tate has threatened legal action against at least one of the women making rape and human trafficking claims against him.

Lawyers for the woman in the US say a "cease-and-desist" letter was sent by a US law firm in December, on behalf of Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan.

The letter threatened to sue the woman and her parents for $300m (£249m) if she did not retract her statements.

A lawyer for the Tates said they were pursuing valid claims for defamation.

The BBC has seen a redacted copy of the letter, apparently sent on behalf of the brothers.

"In April 2022," it reads, "you falsely stated to a third party that our Client human trafficked you, abused you and held you against your will […] You have repeated false and defamatory statements to the police, the media, and another United States citizen about the Tate brothers."

BBC
 
Controversial influencer Andrew Tate has threatened legal action against at least one of the women making rape and human trafficking claims against him.

Lawyers for the woman in the US say a "cease-and-desist" letter was sent by a US law firm in December, on behalf of Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan.

The letter threatened to sue the woman and her parents for $300m (£249m) if she did not retract her statements.

A lawyer for the Tates said they were pursuing valid claims for defamation.

The BBC has seen a redacted copy of the letter, apparently sent on behalf of the brothers.

"In April 2022," it reads, "you falsely stated to a third party that our Client human trafficked you, abused you and held you against your will […] You have repeated false and defamatory statements to the police, the media, and another United States citizen about the Tate brothers."

BBC

As expected, this whole case is a sham.
 

In this video Tam Khan and Sulaiman Ahmad totally rip apart the case against the Tate brothers.

On how they are being detained without evidence and how false witnesses are being created against them.
 
Self-proclaimed misogynist influencer Andrew Tate can be held for another 30 days in Romania after his detention period was extended.

Tate and his brother Tristan are being investigated over allegations of sexual assault and exploitation.

SKY
 

In this video Tam Khan and Sulaiman Ahmad totally rip apart the case against the Tate brothers.

On how they are being detained without evidence and how false witnesses are being created against them.

Sorry cant watch these dudes speak for an hour.

Can you summarise who they are and what their main points are?
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I updated my will from prison.<br><br>I will be donating 100 million to start a charity to protect men from false accusations.</p>— Andrew Tate (@Cobratate) <a href="https://twitter.com/Cobratate/status/1622206731869626379?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Literally on video beating a women, sir takes victimization to next level.
 
I just noticed there are people defending him here more than 1.. lol and I was worried about Liberalism going radical smh
 
Literally on video beating a women, sir takes victimization to next level.

Didn't that happen a long time ago or was it recent?

He was a radical liberal before. He was like agnostic as per his interview. That needs to be taken into account.
 
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Literally on video beating a women, sir takes victimization to next level.

He can be molesting a chicken but his supporters will justify it.

There are voice notes, screenshots, messages from ages back him glorifying rape
 
I just noticed there are people defending him here more than 1.. lol and I was worried about Liberalism going radical smh

You need to have knowledge of coercive control and manipulation in order to really realise what Tate has done.

Not everyone will be familiar with it and will believe as long as he hasn't physically harmed a woman (which itself may not be true) then he hasn't done anything wrong and the women have acted out of free will.

It takes a lot of work for women themselves to realise when they have been in abusive relationships. Even Tate might think he has done nothing wrong.
 
First it was they are not allowed to do this or that but when proof came they were free to do as they please, now they come up oh the girls are brainwashed so cant think for themselves. :))

Of course Romainia is a backward nation in terms of politcis and law. It was likely to be other western nations paying them off to arrest the brothers. Prob some old politicians who are in love with Greta Thunberg and are part of the WEF/western imperialism.

What do you think of this article in relation to the allegations against Tate?

https://centrepoint.org.uk/about-us...OuIYJuSphD0KWkZ4fRoC9mEQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds#
 
Andrew Tate appeals to boys who have achieved nothing much in their life ,and never had any luck with women s. He appeals to their insecurities.

It boggles my mind how somebody who says - women/wives shouldn't mind their bfs/husbands cheating and seeking other women because it is men's nature and how they are made - have such a huge following. What I have noticed is that men who engage in such infidelity adore Andrew Tate because he justifies their misdeeds.

I hope he rots in prison.
 
He is very famous with the incel crowd . As you said he is very famous with people who have had no luck with the women
 
He is very famous with the incel crowd . As you said he is very famous with people who have had no luck with the women

Exactly. He is an incel hero. Many incels hate women because they were rejected by a woman they loved so now they are all incensed like 4 year olds and hate the whole gender.
 
Andrew Tate appeals to boys who have achieved nothing much in their life ,and never had any luck with women s. He appeals to their insecurities.

It boggles my mind how somebody who says - women/wives shouldn't mind their bfs/husbands cheating and seeking other women because it is men's nature and how they are made - have such a huge following. What I have noticed is that men who engage in such infidelity adore Andrew Tate because he justifies their misdeeds.

I hope he rots in prison.

Having "no luck with women" is itself a skewed viewpoint. It means you view the world through a lens where success is judged on how attracted women are to you. In my view the types who make up the incel world would be the more passive nerdy types, in many cases they will be the least like Tate, who himself seems to have plenty of women falling all over him.

Women aren't just some sex objects, they are people like you and me. They work, they are mothers, sisters and daughters, they have their own lives to negotiate. I think it does them a disservice to be thought of as purely there as trophies by which men can guage their success on.
 
Having "no luck with women" is itself a skewed viewpoint. It means you view the world through a lens where success is judged on how attracted women are to you. In my view the types who make up the incel world would be the more passive nerdy types, in many cases they will be the least like Tate, who himself seems to have plenty of women falling all over him.

Women aren't just some sex objects, they are people like you and me. They work, they are mothers, sisters and daughters, they have their own lives to negotiate. I think it does them a disservice to be thought of as purely there as trophies by which men can guage their success on.

Very well said.

Having "no luck with women" is a funny thing to say. Only a complete simp would say something like this.

I don't care about Tate. But, a lot of the people who criticize Tate tend to be simps and beta males. They probably always say "yes" to the women.
 
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Very well said.

Having "no luck with women" is a funny thing to say. Only a complete simp would say something like this.

I don't care about Tate. But, a lot of the people who criticize Tate tend to be simps and beta males. They probably always say "yes" to the women.

This makes complete sense, simply put, the majority of men who hate Tate is because of jealousy!
 
Has anyone seen the video of Tate slapping and thrashing a girl? Generally too, read even 5% of his comments.

Mods, please don't delete this:


He can be molesting a chicken but his supporters will justify it.

There are voice notes, screenshots, messages from ages back him glorifying rape

It would be better to do some basic research. The girl in the video has come to say it was consensual. They were doing some sort of role play.

If there was such clear evidence he would be charged by now. Its always best to use some not so common sense.
 
Nobody is jealous of the sex trafficker. . Keep on making things up

He has no conviction.

Dont kid anyone, you would love to have the life he had, driving supercars, meeting many girls, drinking etc. But you can, dont worry about the accent or colour of the skin.
 
He has no conviction.

Dont kid anyone, you would love to have the life he had, driving supercars, meeting many girls, drinking etc. But you can, dont worry about the accent or colour of the skin.

You are always projecting. . We don’t have a identity crisis here . Driving and meeting women is fine. But he is not in jail for meeting girls. The brother is in jail for raping and sec trafficking .
 
You got to hand it to the likes of [MENTION=48598]saeedhk[/MENTION] and all, these lot diss Andrew Tate for being an 'incel', but the same lot also listen and support rap music/artists which degrade women.

Simply their view on Andrew Tate is one spewed from the MSM and through no thought of their own.

MSM brainwashing is far more powerful than Tate's influence.

Hypocrites.

:)

First, I do not listen to much music, let alone listening to rap. But that is not the point. Tate's viewpoints are nauseous and are attempts to justify his misdeeds and immorality. Tate says ...'it is perfectly fine for men to cheat as they are built this way... and women should understand...'

Those who listen to him see him as someone who can justify their misdeeds i.e. cheating, sleeping around so Tate's rhetoric sound much attractive to such people.
 
Very well said.

Having "no luck with women" is a funny thing to say. Only a complete simp would say something like this.

I don't care about Tate. But, a lot of the people who criticize Tate tend to be simps and beta males. They probably always say "yes" to the women.

It is better to respect women and say 'yes' than to assault them and tell them not to make a big deal of men's infidelity in a relationship/marriage.
 
It is better to respect women and say 'yes' than to assault them and tell them not to make a big deal of men's infidelity in a relationship/marriage.

Don't get me wrong. I condemn any statement that promotes oppression.

Tate was like an agnostic before. He was not a religious person. So, he didn't have a moral compass then.

But, he seems to be a changed man now. I think his recent stuffs are alright.
 
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First, I do not listen to much music, let alone listening to rap. But that is not the point. Tate's viewpoints are nauseous and are attempts to justify his misdeeds and immorality. Tate says ...'it is perfectly fine for men to cheat as they are built this way... and women should understand...'

Those who listen to him see him as someone who can justify their misdeeds i.e. cheating, sleeping around so Tate's rhetoric sound much attractive to such people.

No, the point is, why doesn't society ban rap music which degrades women in a far worse manner than what Tate does?

More people are influenced by rap music than Tate. Forget lyrics, just go look at some of the rap videos and see how women are paraded as sexual objects, also said videos include flashy cars and money. Rap also promotes and advocates violence!

Eminem is one of the biggest selling rap artists of all time, go read some of his lyrics in reference to women.

Lets start judging fans of rap and rap artists, start arresting them, if mysoginist views bother you so much.
 
First, I do not listen to much music, let alone listening to rap. But that is not the point. Tate's viewpoints are nauseous and are attempts to justify his misdeeds and immorality. Tate says ...'it is perfectly fine for men to cheat as they are built this way... and women should understand...'

Those who listen to him see him as someone who can justify their misdeeds i.e. cheating, sleeping around so Tate's rhetoric sound much attractive to such people.

i ain't a state ****** or hater, just need to clarify one thing, from what little i saw of him on some interviews its not that he stated that "it is perfectly fine to cheat....", he wasn't making a moral judgement, his pov is that if you are rich and attractive enough you will find some women who will tolerate you cheating on them.

its a nuance to the point, but it takes away the morality from it. its a matter of fact observation, rich, successful men have their transgressions tolerated far more than men lower down the pecking order. yeh, some people might see it as a moral justification, but its more an observation.
 
Its irrelevent what someones views are or what words they use. This is a criminal case not a 'I dont want to be friends with him' .

This thought process is coming from watching interviews where people who have scooby doo of the case pick up lines or what he said and condemn. Its interesting as their is a bigger issue here. They want to lock up Tate but more importantly they want his views and thoughts shut down. Its ok to burn a Quran in the West but someone stating they are against 'THEY' or see young men as weak, it has to be silenced.
 
No, the point is, why doesn't society ban rap music which degrades women in a far worse manner than what Tate does?

More people are influenced by rap music than Tate. Forget lyrics, just go look at some of the rap videos and see how women are paraded as sexual objects, also said videos include flashy cars and money. Rap also promotes and advocates violence!

Eminem is one of the biggest selling rap artists of all time, go read some of his lyrics in reference to women.

Lets start judging fans of rap and rap artists, start arresting them, if mysoginist views bother you so much.

I am not entirely sure why rap is tolerated but it does not mean that Tate ,too, should be tolerated. Maybe, because music is supposed to be fictitious. Well, you are free to judge rap artists. I do not listen to rap music and much music in general.

Also, Tate is on trial for trafficking and rape - both which are criminal offences.
 
Don't get me wrong. I condemn any statement that promotes oppression.

Tate was like an agnostic before. He was not a religious person. So, he didn't have a moral compass then.

But, he seems to be a changed man now. I think his recent stuffs are alright.

Religión and having moral compass has nothing to do with each other.
 
Religión and having moral compass has nothing to do with each other.

Exactly. I had the same discussion/argument with a Tableeghi Jamaat that came to Hong Kong. We were in a park and they came over and started saying,'Look at these people - pointing to women in shorts who were playing badminton - they have no morals (ikhlaaq), no religion and are evil people who conspire against us'.

I told them you guys are super religious yet the country you came from, ranks 140 in honesty while Hong Kong ranks in number number 12 in honesty. The kind of dishonesty, cruelty, adulteration of milk, injustice, crime, fake teachers, ghost hospitals, illegal occupation of poors' land, child abuse et all that you find in Raiwand, is unheard of here in this city where majority do not follow a religion.

A lot of people confuse religion with morality. I believe that the more religious you are, the less morally-upright you are.
 
Also, Tate is on trial for trafficking and rape - both which are criminal offences.

Wrong

Trial? Tate is not on trial for anything, he has not been charged with any crime, and he has been held in custody for over 60 days, now extended to 90 days, as authorities cannot find any evidence.

Why do you lot make stuff up? Is it because Tate converted to Islam?
 
Wrong

Trial? Tate is not on trial for anything, he has not been charged with any crime, and he has been held in custody for over 60 days, now extended to 90 days, as authorities cannot find any evidence.

Why do you lot make stuff up? Is it because Tate converted to Islam?

The pair were arrested in December on suspicion of human trafficking, rape and forming an organised crime group.

Source:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64722716
 
The pair were arrested in December on suspicion of human trafficking, rape and forming an organised crime group.

Source:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64722716

Read your own link, the pair were arrested on SUSPICION of human trafficking.

The pair have NOT been charged and thus not facing a trial, so stop making stuff up.

People like you are the bearers of fake news, and frankly you only despise Tate cos he converted to Islam.
 
Read your own link, the pair were arrested on SUSPICION of human trafficking.

The pair have NOT been charged and thus not facing a trial, so stop making stuff up.

People like you are the bearers of fake news, and frankly you only despise Tate cos he converted to Islam.

At first, all suspects are arrested on suspicion, right. Let's see how the investigation goes.
 
At first, all suspects are arrested on suspicion, right. Let's see how the investigation goes.

Fact remains, Tate and his brother are currently not on trial as you claimed.

Suspects - in the West - are questioned and then either charged or released, in Tates case he is being held while authorities are desperate to find any evidence. 60 days have gone by, another 30 days added, and still no evidence.

So stop this nonsense that Tate is guilty, there's no evidence let alone a trial thus far. You ramble on about injustices and prejudices in Islam, yet here you are guilty of making false and desperate claims.

You have presumed Tate is guilty without evidence or a trial, you are worse than the Mullahs you criticise day in day out.
 
Fact remains, Tate and his brother are currently not on trial as you claimed.

Suspects - in the West - are questioned and then either charged or released, in Tates case he is being held while authorities are desperate to find any evidence. 60 days have gone by, another 30 days added, and still no evidence.

So stop this nonsense that Tate is guilty, there's no evidence let alone a trial thus far. You ramble on about injustices and prejudices in Islam, yet here you are guilty of making false and desperate claims.

You have presumed Tate is guilty without evidence or a trial, you are worse than the Mullahs you criticise day in day out.

That is up to the court to decide and they probably have their reasons to keep the two lunatics behind bars.
 
That is up to the court to decide and they probably have their reasons to keep the two lunatics behind bars.

Irrelevant, what is relevant is you stating Tate and his brother are on trial, when clearly they are not.

Tate may not even end up in court or face trial, you have presumed they will, and are guilty, because Tate converted to Islam and it riles you up with hate.

Proper fascist mentality.
 
Irrelevant, what is relevant is you stating Tate and his brother are on trial, when clearly they are not.

Tate may not even end up in court or face trial, you have presumed they will, and are guilty, because Tate converted to Islam and it riles you up with hate.

Proper fascist mentality.

He has been accused of criminal offences. We have to wait and see what the court does.
 
At first, all suspects are arrested on suspicion, right. Let's see how the investigation goes.

There are videos of him saying he had sex with an underage girl. Let’s see if the trial proves what they accuse the brother tate off.
 
Atheism has no morality, your whole morality is subjective and based on liberalism, which is constantly evolving.
Your statement had no evidence. Pakistan is a very religious country. Ranked as one of the most corrupt, dishonest country. Scandinavian countries are the secular and ranked the lost honest , corruption free countries. So as usual you statement is false. Facts matter.
 
We can witness the moral compass of liberalism. Guilty devoid of evidence and a trial, and criminal damages come under peaceful protests. To name but a few examples of liberal Athiest morality.
 
Your statement had no evidence. Pakistan is a very religious country. Ranked as one of the most corrupt, dishonest country. Scandinavian countries are the secular and ranked the lost honest , corruption free countries. So as usual you statement is false. Facts matter.

I said to you that your morality is subjective and constantly changing and you come up with rants like these,lol

In short there is “objective morality” and then there is “subjective morality.” You see, atheists do not have any objective morality in the first place. What atheism can only do is create subjective morality.
 
I said to you that your morality is subjective and constantly changing and you come up with rants like these,lol

In short there is “objective morality” and then there is “subjective morality.” You see, atheists do not have any objective morality in the first place. What atheism can only do is create subjective morality.

Constantly changing what?
 
When Your Boyfriend Becomes an Andrew Tate Fan
“I am at a point where I'm grieving the loss of almost ten years of my life.”

In February 2013, Sophie met a man in a bar who later became her boyfriend. Like every romcom meet-cute with this exact storyline, the pair began dating until they came to the mutual realisation that they wanted to be together. Neither of them knew that night out – a beer-soaked bar floor and a chat with a stranger – would lead to a nine-year relationship. They also never could have predicted its end.


In January of this year, Sophie wrote on Reddit: “I’m so sad losing the person I loved for nine years but it’s exhausting.” She detailed how her partner had begun to parrot incel language and made her feel unsafe; he’d even denied she was a person of colour. Her post was titled: “My boyfriend has fallen down the Tate pipeline”.

In 2023, Andrew Tate’s impact is octopus-like and stretches far beyond the internet. The “alpha male” influencer’s deeply misogynistic messaging is parroted on school grounds, in workplaces and even within relationships, despite his recent arrest and social media ban.

The 35-year-old kickboxer and his younger brother Tristan are currently being held in custody in Romania until 27th February while police investigate allegations of rape and human trafficking – charges which they both deny. A VICE World News investigation obtained audio recordings of the older Tate in which he appeared to admit to raping a woman from the UK and boasted to her: “Am I a bad person? Because the more you didn’t like it, the more I enjoyed it.”


Tate has built up a legion of followers made up of mostly teen boys and young men enticed by his motivational self-help videos. But littered throughout his viral clips, which are reposted across YouTube, TikTok and Instagram, are claims that rape victims “bear responsibility” for their abuse; that he prefers to date 18-19 year-olds because he can “make an imprint” on them, and that women are a man’s property.



Women are now hearing those views coming out of their partners’ mouths. One woman, who asked not to share her name out of fears for her safety, was in a six-week relationship with a Tate fan last year. She initially met him through the gym, but they later matched on Tinder, dated, and eventually broke up due to several undesirable traits, including his appreciation for the influencer.

One situation particularly stood out to the 23-year-old, who is based on the East Coast of the US. “I had tried opening up to him about memories of past sexual assault being triggered,” she says. “Before I could even bring [the topic] up, he started talking about Andrew Tate.”

She immediately responded that she would not support someone who said they moved to Romania because they believed laws around rape were more relaxed. He replied: “He’s ‘Top G’ – he can rape whoever he wants.”



“After that,” she says, “I no longer felt it was something I could talk to him about.” A week later, they ended the relationship. The woman said while the situation still hurts, she’s relieved to no longer be with someone who holds such views.

Sophie – whose name we are withholding to protect her safety – is unsure when her partner first fell down the Tate rabbit hole. “I had seen some videos on TikTok [last year], warning women to look out for people who listen to or follow Tate.”

At first her boyfriend seemed uninterested in Tate, but this soon changed. “I guess he started listening to the talks Tate had [that weren’t about women] and realised some of it made sense, so the rest of it couldn't be that bad,” she says.

He began telling Sophie she was holding him back, and she should wait for him while he slept with other women. “He began calling me out for being too masculine – whatever that means,” she says. He also started telling her she needed to be more submissive and feminine.

Sophie eventually convinced him to stop listening to Tate, but the damage was done. “By then his TikTok algorithm had set in a lot of men’s rights stuff and other misogynistic content, so it was constantly being drilled in his head.”

He’d also started to put Sophie down, calling her “low value” – a common term in the manosphere – because she’d had more romantic partners than he did. “He would send me videos of the men's rights people basically saying he was doing nothing wrong so he kept doing it,” she says. This was on top of constant reminders she was worthless and no one would ever love her, so she had to accept his behaviour or die alone.


“There were also instances of him not taking no for an answer if he wanted sex, and I just had to go with it because he was entitled to me,” she says. The pair are now broken up, and it’s only recently that Sophie has confronted the scale of the torment she faced. “Now I am at a point where I'm grieving the loss of almost ten years of my life,” she says, “and starting to do some internal work to heal through the abuse.”

Sophie isn’t alone in having to deal with a partner who has been radicalised by the male influencer. Another woman, who asked to go by “B”, is still with a Tate fan. The 27-year-old, also from the East Coast, met her boyfriend on Hinge more than two years ago and realised that he had become a fan of Tate’s videos on traditional gender roles sometime last summer.

“I’ve noticed he will be more visibly upset about not having sex almost daily, and I feel like he sees it as kind of transactional, like if we go to dinner we should sleep together that night,” she says. “He’ll use OnlyFans to have those ‘needs’ met, and when I explicitly said I don’t like it, he told me it’s my fault he has to use the app.”

B’s partner believes modern feminism is wrong as “equality [isn’t possible] because of biological differences,” she says. Much like Tate, these sexist views extend to women’s accounts of sexual violence. “He’s always hesitant to believe anyone from Me Too and is first to call out how a man would be criticised for doing one thing while a woman gets off for it,” B adds.



B says she’s been significantly affected by her boyfriend’s transformation. “It makes me feel insecure and vulnerable that he could see me as solely an object for sexual gratification or that’s where my value lies,” she explains – though she says she is still hopeful he will change back to who he once was.

Tate has five million followers on Twitter, and despite TikTok removing content of his that violated its prohibition against exploitative content, fans continue to repost video clips of him that attract millions of views. Experts are extremely concerned at how far his influence has spread – not just among those old enough to date, but also among those still growing up.

“It’s important first to emphasise how young Tate’s audience is,” says Tim Squirrell, the head of communications and editorial at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, an organisation committed to finding solutions to extremism and disinformation. “They’re broadly not men, they’re boys.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7b4nw/what-its-like-when-your-boyfriend-becomes-an-andrew-tate-fan
 
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The fact Andrew Tate is locked up but Sam Smith is all over children's phone says a lot about society in the West.
 
So many Men becoming Tate fans which is leading to breakup in their relationships lol. He could emerge as a bigger hero after he is a free Man once again, against whom the various powerful lobbies were conspiring but he came out undefeated. It will get even more funny in the coming days.
 
The fact Andrew Tate is locked up but Sam Smith is all over children's phone says a lot about society in the West.

What a ridiculous statement. Sam Smith is a more extravagant version of pop stars from the 80s such as Boy George or Hollywood celebrities such as Bruce / Kaitlin Jenner regardless of hospital operation status. Such people have always existed and even in our culture we have beggars and wedding singers who cross dress or are eunuchs.

Andrew Tate has made videos where he admit in no uncertain terms that he makes women fall in love with him and then he psychologically manipulate and controls them to do sex work and ensures his control means they are unlikely to leave. Andrew Tate admits clearly that he uses girls like assets and is men should do the same and pimp women to make money. He sells this nonsense as part of his hustlers university course. This is known as the ‘lover boy’ human trafficking method and this is EXACTLY what Andrew Tate has been arrested for.

Why is everybody talking about the matrix and that ‘they’ are out to get him when Tate admits the type of crimes he is accused of on videos clearly circulating on YouTube and I’ve already shared links of this on this exact thread.

We all have sisters and mothers and we all would be aghast if he tried to manipulate them like this. The CIA or matrix or whatever might dislike him and want him silenced but this man is no angel or role model. He may say inspiring stuff shout men in 2022 but he has done and admitted doing abhorrent things before he became such a viral cult figure.
 
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What a ridiculous statement. Sam Smith is a more extravagant version of pop stars from the 80s such as Boy George or Hollywood celebrities such as Bruce / Kaitlin Jenner regardless of hospital operation status. Such people have always existed and even in our culture we have beggars and wedding singers who cross dress or are eunuchs.

Andrew Tate has made videos where he admit in no uncertain terms that he makes women fall in love with him and then he psychologically manipulate and controls them to do sex work and ensures his control means they are unlikely to leave. Andrew Tate admits clearly that he uses girls like assets and is men should do the same and pimp women to make money. He sells this nonsense as part of his hustlers university course. This is known as the ‘lover boy’ human trafficking method and this is EXACTLY what Andrew Tate has been arrested for.

Why is everybody talking about the matrix and that ‘they’ are out to get him when Tate admits the type of crimes he is accused of on videos clearly circulating on YouTube and I’ve already shared links of this on this exact thread.

We all have sisters and mothers and we all would be aghast if he tried to manipulate them like this. The CIA or matrix or whatever might dislike him and want him silenced but this man is no angel or role model. He may say inspiring stuff shout men in 2022 but he has done and admitted doing abhorrent things before he became such a viral cult figure.

Let me get this straight, Andrew Tate talks about how he make women fall in love with him is shocking and abhorrent, but Sam Smith dressing up as a woman, claiming he is a woman, worshipping Satan, is all game and has no influence on teenagers because society deems him to be a role model?

I will mention music too which is a far more dangerous influence on teenagers (Rap for example) which promotes far more abhorent views towards women and is far more influencial than Tate - no issues here then?

In the 80s there was no social media and kids were too busy playing footy in the park, riding their BMX, or just plain playing video games, which is why that generation didn't grow up to become cross dressers like Boy George.

What is exactly wrong with pulling up the CIA? Don't pretend CIA do not engage is psy-OPs because it is all well documented.

As for Tate and his Lover Boy human trafficking, where is the evidence? If he has incriminated himself why are the authorities extending his detention period for the 3rd time sill in search for evidence?

The real issue here is his conversion to Islam. Tate made his 'Lover Boy' comments well before he converted to Islam, so why wasn't he arrested then? Why now? Because Western society fear a generation of teenagers embracing Islam instead of of embracing a cross dressing Satan worshipper?
 
I said to you that your morality is subjective and constantly changing and you come up with rants like these,lol

In short there is “objective morality” and then there is “subjective morality.” You see, atheists do not have any objective morality in the first place. What atheism can only do is create subjective morality.

The standards of morality are pretty much uniform today. Dishonesty, honor killings, acid attacks, child abuse, adulteration of milk, medicine, flour, hoarding of basic commodities, corruption, ghost schools, fake pilots, attacking polio workers, blowing up mosques et all are at odds with morality, no matter where you live and no matter what you believe in. These misdeeds happen more in nations religious countries or irreligious?
 
I do wonder if some of the outrage directed against Tate is because he says offensive stuff about women, yet they seem even more attracted to him? It's just one of the unfortunate realities of modern life guys, girls are attracted to bad boys. It's all around you. Nice guys finish last apparently. Not always though, you don't have to follow the media narrative. Take a deep breath and don't go incel. Some girls will prefer brains and a fellow who has lived with him mum until 40.
 
Let me get this straight, Andrew Tate talks about how he make women fall in love with him is shocking and abhorrent, but Sam Smith dressing up as a woman, claiming he is a woman, worshipping Satan, is all game and has no influence on teenagers because society deems him to be a role model?

I will mention music too which is a far more dangerous influence on teenagers (Rap for example) which promotes far more abhorent views towards women and is far more influencial than Tate - no issues here then?

In the 80s there was no social media and kids were too busy playing footy in the park, riding their BMX, or just plain playing video games, which is why that generation didn't grow up to become cross dressers like Boy George.

What is exactly wrong with pulling up the CIA? Don't pretend CIA do not engage is psy-OPs because it is all well documented.

As for Tate and his Lover Boy human trafficking, where is the evidence? If he has incriminated himself why are the authorities extending his detention period for the 3rd time sill in search for evidence?

The real issue here is his conversion to Islam. Tate made his 'Lover Boy' comments well before he converted to Islam, so why wasn't he arrested then? Why now? Because Western society fear a generation of teenagers embracing Islam instead of of embracing a cross dressing Satan worshipper?

Once again you surprise me by being unable to see my point.

Andrew Tate doesn’t just make women fall in love with him but he admits psychologically controlling women and using a pimp mindset where they are unable to leave by taking care of their tax returns. He admits openly that he makes women fall in love with them under false pretence so that he can use them as webcam girls hence the human trafficking aspect of the lover boy crime. Tate has already admitted he uses this approach for what he has been arrested for. I’m in no doubt he is guilty of this aspect but I’m yet to see credible evidence of rape and false imprisonment.

If you are able to accept that Tate commits lover boy crimes to pimp women in web cam as Tate admits himself then surely any global society would classify Tate as a bad moraled and vile man. If that’s the case then please don’t defend him and I ask the same of other posters too.

I’ve seen Tate’s new content online in the last 12 months and admittedly he gives some inspirational speeches and comes across as decent at times but he has 100% lied, manipulated and controlled women for financial gain by making them deliver sex services online. Yes many may have agreed and some may have felt pressured to please him but he deceived them all when he initially asked them out for a date.

As for Sam Smith then I don’t see the comparison. R Kelly is also vile but but like Smith is irrelevant to the Tate matter.

I don’t recall any of our fathers ever approving of gangster rap where they speak derogatory of women and again don’t see the relevance of bringing up other distasteful or immoral matters.

What has Islam and Tate’s conversion got to do with his arrest for human trafficking and exploitation? Tate was investigated for similar matters by the UK Crown prosecution service in 2016 and Romanian authorities investigated him from at least early 2022. This is not a new thing that Tate is suddenly facing after a very public conversion.

Is there an urgency by an intelligence service to fast track and expedite criminal charges because of his fame and influence - yes it’s possible but it doesn’t change the fact that Tate has admitted many times that he uses coercive control to traffic women. Please use YouTube if you don’t believe me as there are so many videos.

Tate is famous because he wanted to be by manipulating social media algorithms so the attention on him will naturally also be higher then other crimes too.

Here is a second video and I posted another one last month too on this thread.

https://youtu.be/htYdpp0LxOE

If you still use a lgbt example of Sam Smith then I wish you well and will probably disengage. No one is saying Sam Smith is a legend on here or approve of his conduct but he isn’t committing the crimes of Tate. Is smith however committing a different crime - maybe and who cares. This is a Tate thread and not one to discuss the merits of big bad Bill Cosby or Jimmy Saville and the outrage of their alleged crimes.
 
I do wonder if some of the outrage directed against Tate is because he says offensive stuff about women, yet they seem even more attracted to him? It's just one of the unfortunate realities of modern life guys, girls are attracted to bad boys. It's all around you. Nice guys finish last apparently. Not always though, you don't have to follow the media narrative. Take a deep breath and don't go incel. Some girls will prefer brains and a fellow who has lived with him mum until 40.

There is I’m sure some truth in your post and I think many people accept that women like a bad boy and nice guys don’t always get the same success.

However if he is guilty of asking women out on dates and then starting a psychological campaign to make them needy so he can control them and make them do sex acts for his financial again (the only reason why he dated them) then he must be held accountable. I don’t see this as much different from him making women do prostitution and saying if you love me then you will sleep with men for us to make us both money. Both are pimping but the latter is more widely accepted as a crime rather then webcam.

I’m not saying erase bad boys from society who dominate women and don’t compromise either but I am saying is to erase pimps to protect our sisters and daughters.

Him being a good guy since his conversion maybe true but he is also a public figure and if he wanted my support then he should have apologised publicly for past behaviour.
 
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Once again you surprise me by being unable to see my point.

Andrew Tate doesn’t just make women fall in love with him but he admits psychologically controlling women and using a pimp mindset where they are unable to leave by taking care of their tax returns. He admits openly that he makes women fall in love with them under false pretence so that he can use them as webcam girls hence the human trafficking aspect of the lover boy crime. Tate has already admitted he uses this approach for what he has been arrested for. I’m in no doubt he is guilty of this aspect but I’m yet to see credible evidence of rape and false imprisonment.

If you are able to accept that Tate commits lover boy crimes to pimp women in web cam as Tate admits himself then surely any global society would classify Tate as a bad moraled and vile man. If that’s the case then please don’t defend him and I ask the same of other posters too.

I’ve seen Tate’s new content online in the last 12 months and admittedly he gives some inspirational speeches and comes across as decent at times but he has 100% lied, manipulated and controlled women for financial gain by making them deliver sex services online. Yes many may have agreed and some may have felt pressured to please him but he deceived them all when he initially asked them out for a date.

As for Sam Smith then I don’t see the comparison. R Kelly is also vile but but like Smith is irrelevant to the Tate matter.

I don’t recall any of our fathers ever approving of gangster rap where they speak derogatory of women and again don’t see the relevance of bringing up other distasteful or immoral matters.

What has Islam and Tate’s conversion got to do with his arrest for human trafficking and exploitation? Tate was investigated for similar matters by the UK Crown prosecution service in 2016 and Romanian authorities investigated him from at least early 2022. This is not a new thing that Tate is suddenly facing after a very public conversion.

Is there an urgency by an intelligence service to fast track and expedite criminal charges because of his fame and influence - yes it’s possible but it doesn’t change the fact that Tate has admitted many times that he uses coercive control to traffic women. Please use YouTube if you don’t believe me as there are so many videos.

Tate is famous because he wanted to be by manipulating social media algorithms so the attention on him will naturally also be higher then other crimes too.

Here is a second video and I posted another one last month too on this thread.

https://youtu.be/htYdpp0LxOE

If you still use a lgbt example of Sam Smith then I wish you well and will probably disengage. No one is saying Sam Smith is a legend on here or approve of his conduct but he isn’t committing the crimes of Tate. Is smith however committing a different crime - maybe and who cares. This is a Tate thread and not one to discuss the merits of big bad Bill Cosby or Jimmy Saville and the outrage of their alleged crimes.


Tate was cancelled and banned from social media primarily for his misogynist views, not because he was investigated in the past, or because he is alleged to have trafficked women, which is why his conversion to Islam comes into play, as it is no coincidence he gets more airtime (including TV) after embracing Islam, and then is arrested.

His misogynist views are nothing new, and no reason to ban him, which is why the point of Rap music is relevant because if misogynist views should be banned, then so too should other forms of media and influence that promote misogyny such as Rap music. It doesn't matter what our parents decided to ban, the point is what society decided to ban.

Having misogynistic views are not illegal, psychologically controlling women is not illegal either, the media psychologically controls society, but trafficking women yes is illegal, but where is the evidence? Tate was investigated before but no evidence was found, he his arrested again, and the same, no evidence is found. In fact some of the women involved and alleged to have been trafficked have stood up in support of Tate.

All the YouTube videos you have mentioned are supposedly evidence of self incrimination? If so then why wasn't Tate charged and convicted a long time ago? You didn't address this point.

What we are seeing is a clear cut case of hypocrisy in the West. Make no mistake about it, for all the talk of freedom of expression, a Muslim Tate is perceived to be a bigger threat to Western society because it can inspire an entire generation to embrace Islam in the West, which is a far greater threat to the West. This is why Islam and Tate's conversion to Islam is relevant. You know it, I know it, and everyman and his dog knows it. If you still do not believe me, then read the title and OP of this thread.

Instead the same powers are content with supporting and enforcing warped beliefs by the likes of promoting Sam Smith because society, in particular children, are psychologically controlled into believing that our sisters are free to identify as brothers, our mothers free to identify as fathers, and our daughters free to identify as sons - and vice versa - we have children as young as 4 believing they are another gender - surely this is a greater threat to our society and people?

Do you not see why LGBTQ is relevant here, it is because Islamic values are completely against LGBTQ nonsense and why Islam is the greatest threat to Western Liberalism, hence why a Muslim Tate is a threat too far for the West. Again, ask yourself why Tate was not banned before, even after his previous investigations? Yup, he was not a Muslim back then, but he is now. You can believe this is coincidence, but I do not.

You mention Bill Cosby and Jimmy Saville, they were not alleged to have committed crimes, they were proven to have committed crimes, you mention R Kelly, he was convicted too, you know why? There was ample evidence, and until Tate is convicted of his alleged crimes, he remains innocent.

Yes this is a Tate thread, but more so it is a veiled attack on Islam, this is clear as daylight, a point which you seem to miss as there was no Tate thread prior to him converting to Islam, as Tate was not banned from the media before he converted to Islam, more importantly, this thread is also about exposing the hypocrisy of Western values (freedom of expression) and process (legal) is the underpinning point.

If Tate is found guilty as charged of trafficking women, I will stop supporting him, but until then, he remains innocent until proven guilty in my eyes.
 
Tate was cancelled and banned from social media primarily for his misogynist views, not because he was investigated in the past, or because he is alleged to have trafficked women, which is why his conversion to Islam comes into play, as it is no coincidence he gets more airtime (including TV) after embracing Islam, and then is arrested.

His misogynist views are nothing new, and no reason to ban him, which is why the point of Rap music is relevant because if misogynist views should be banned, then so too should other forms of media and influence that promote misogyny such as Rap music. It doesn't matter what our parents decided to ban, the point is what society decided to ban.

Having misogynistic views are not illegal, psychologically controlling women is not illegal either, the media psychologically controls society, but trafficking women yes is illegal, but where is the evidence? Tate was investigated before but no evidence was found, he his arrested again, and the same, no evidence is found. In fact some of the women involved and alleged to have been trafficked have stood up in support of Tate.

All the YouTube videos you have mentioned are supposedly evidence of self incrimination? If so then why wasn't Tate charged and convicted a long time ago? You didn't address this point.

What we are seeing is a clear cut case of hypocrisy in the West. Make no mistake about it, for all the talk of freedom of expression, a Muslim Tate is perceived to be a bigger threat to Western society because it can inspire an entire generation to embrace Islam in the West, which is a far greater threat to the West. This is why Islam and Tate's conversion to Islam is relevant. You know it, I know it, and everyman and his dog knows it. If you still do not believe me, then read the title and OP of this thread.

Instead the same powers are content with supporting and enforcing warped beliefs by the likes of promoting Sam Smith because society, in particular children, are psychologically controlled into believing that our sisters are free to identify as brothers, our mothers free to identify as fathers, and our daughters free to identify as sons - and vice versa - we have children as young as 4 believing they are another gender - surely this is a greater threat to our society and people?

Do you not see why LGBTQ is relevant here, it is because Islamic values are completely against LGBTQ nonsense and why Islam is the greatest threat to Western Liberalism, hence why a Muslim Tate is a threat too far for the West. Again, ask yourself why Tate was not banned before, even after his previous investigations? Yup, he was not a Muslim back then, but he is now. You can believe this is coincidence, but I do not.

You mention Bill Cosby and Jimmy Saville, they were not alleged to have committed crimes, they were proven to have committed crimes, you mention R Kelly, he was convicted too, you know why? There was ample evidence, and until Tate is convicted of his alleged crimes, he remains innocent.

Yes this is a Tate thread, but more so it is a veiled attack on Islam, this is clear as daylight, a point which you seem to miss as there was no Tate thread prior to him converting to Islam, as Tate was not banned from the media before he converted to Islam, more importantly, this thread is also about exposing the hypocrisy of Western values (freedom of expression) and process (legal) is the underpinning point.

If Tate is found guilty as charged of trafficking women, I will stop supporting him, but until then, he remains innocent until proven guilty in my eyes.

Have a great day and I wish you well.

Honestly I’m speechless. Tate has had similar sexual exploitation allegations against him much before he converted to Islam and he was huge and famous by summer 2022 and only converted to Islam at end of 2022.

You talk about the term canceled. I’m familiar with the term but it’s not a legal term and one that is basically a sensationalised word. It can be used for many scenarios but let’s not hide behind that without facts.

You ignore that Tate admits these crimes on videos and yes he therefore does self incriminate himself. You ask why he has not been charged by police and my response is I don’t know as the investigation is confidential and we only know what is leaked or briefed to the press. A possible theory could be that witnesses are hard to identify or reluctant to give evidence but there are also many other possibilities too.

You believe this is war on Islam from the west and Tate is being cancelled (whatever that means) by an entity (God knows which organisation).

I believe that western governments disliked Tate much before his Islam conversion and I recall my children’s school threatening to give punishment to all students who pay homage to him. But again facts are he is accused of sexual exploitation and he admits it - you won’t go there and sadly it means you are unable to argue objectively.

I have so far spoken about facts and evidence and I’ll now give my opinion and I’m happy to be proved wrong as it’s my opinion only based on instinct.

Tate was aware of Romanian police closing down on his criminal past and accusing him of false imprisonment and sexual exploitation in April 2022 and a few months later he moves to Dubai and then converts to Islam. I believe he did this conversion to muster the support of the Islamic world and Dubai government. Tate is now wanted by Romanian police yet somehow he goes to Romania in December 2022 and gets arrested. Whole thing makes no sense and there is no evidence of casinos and lucrative mma promotional companies as he claims. He is a fraud and narcissist yet because he’s now Muslim we must all support him - I think not. He was always desperate for fame, whether it be big brother, cringe rap videos in his Bentley, Tik Tok and now Piers Morgan.

Let’s see if you genuinely withdraw any support for him if he gets charged and convicted or you call it a conspiracy against Islam?
 
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Have a great day and I wish you well.

Honestly I’m speechless. Tate has had similar sexual exploitation allegations against him much before he converted to Islam and he was huge and famous by summer 2022 and only converted to Islam at end of 2022.

You talk about the term canceled. I’m familiar with the term but it’s not a legal term and one that is basically a sensationalised word. It can be used for many scenarios but let’s not hide behind that without facts.

You ignore that Tate admits these crimes on videos and yes he therefore does self incriminate himself. You ask why he has not been charged by police and my response is I don’t know as the investigation is confidential and we only know what is leaked or briefed to the press. A possible theory could be that witnesses are hard to identify or reluctant to give evidence but there are also many other possibilities too.

You believe this is war on Islam from the west and Tate is being cancelled (whatever that means) by an entity (God knows which organisation).

I believe that western governments disliked Tate much before his Islam conversion and I recall my children’s school threatening to give punishment to all students who pay homage to him. But again facts are he is accused of sexual exploitation and he admits it - you won’t go there and sadly it means you are unable to argue objectively.

I have so far spoken about facts and evidence and I’ll now give my opinion and I’m happy to be proved wrong as it’s my opinion only based on instinct.

Tate was aware of Romanian police closing down on his criminal past and accusing him of false imprisonment and sexual exploitation in April 2022 and a few months later he moves to Dubai and then converts to Islam. I believe he did this conversion to muster the support of the Islamic world and Dubai government. Tate is now wanted by Romanian police yet somehow he goes to Romania in December 2022 and gets arrested. Whole thing makes no sense and there is no evidence of casinos and lucrative mma promotional companies as he claims. He is a fraud and narcissist yet because he’s now Muslim we must all support him - I think not. He was always desperate for fame, whether it be big brother, cringe rap videos in his Bentley, Tik Tok and now Piers Morgan.

Let’s see if you genuinely withdraw any support for him if he gets charged and convicted or you call it a conspiracy against Islam?

You make me worry about uk law & order . You keep harping on he’s admitted his crime . Please cite the Romanian law & evidence proving this law has been broken & while you’re at it , explain why he’s not been charged yet if there is a confession?
 
Have a great day and I wish you well.

Honestly I’m speechless. Tate has had similar sexual exploitation allegations against him much before he converted to Islam and he was huge and famous by summer 2022 and only converted to Islam at end of 2022.

You talk about the term canceled. I’m familiar with the term but it’s not a legal term and one that is basically a sensationalised word. It can be used for many scenarios but let’s not hide behind that without facts.

You ignore that Tate admits these crimes on videos and yes he therefore does self incriminate himself. You ask why he has not been charged by police and my response is I don’t know as the investigation is confidential and we only know what is leaked or briefed to the press. A possible theory could be that witnesses are hard to identify or reluctant to give evidence but there are also many other possibilities too.

You believe this is war on Islam from the west and Tate is being cancelled (whatever that means) by an entity (God knows which organisation).

I believe that western governments disliked Tate much before his Islam conversion and I recall my children’s school threatening to give punishment to all students who pay homage to him. But again facts are he is accused of sexual exploitation and he admits it - you won’t go there and sadly it means you are unable to argue objectively.

I have so far spoken about facts and evidence and I’ll now give my opinion and I’m happy to be proved wrong as it’s my opinion only based on instinct.

Tate was aware of Romanian police closing down on his criminal past and accusing him of false imprisonment and sexual exploitation in April 2022 and a few months later he moves to Dubai and then converts to Islam. I believe he did this conversion to muster the support of the Islamic world and Dubai government. Tate is now wanted by Romanian police yet somehow he goes to Romania in December 2022 and gets arrested. Whole thing makes no sense and there is no evidence of casinos and lucrative mma promotional companies as he claims. He is a fraud and narcissist yet because he’s now Muslim we must all support him - I think not. He was always desperate for fame, whether it be big brother, cringe rap videos in his Bentley, Tik Tok and now Piers Morgan.

Let’s see if you genuinely withdraw any support for him if he gets charged and convicted or you call it a conspiracy against Islam?

Excellent POTW posts.

There won't be any withdrawal of support from anyone, the reason Tate converted because he knows his audience very well. He knows he can swim in cat litter and he will still have his army like Technics defending hi.
 
Excellent POTW posts.

There won't be any withdrawal of support from anyone, the reason Tate converted because he knows his audience very well. He knows he can swim in cat litter and he will still have his army like Technics defending hi.

Excellent post. People will not believe. There are videos of him and people are still blind.
 
Hopefully brother tate will be charged. The judge gave a a reason last nite of him still being held. As he stated he is a flight risk.
 
Yes his posts are very concerning esp as his daily life is to uphold the law .

We’ve got to the point in society liberals are extremists, happy to see someone locked up because they disagree with their daft ideology.

Since 2016, I have maintained the view that Liberalism is the new face of fascism.

Tate and his views are only a problem with Western liberals; because Islam scares them, the truth scares them. I say Western liberals and not the Liberal West, because Tate has appeared on Western TV shows, and is supported by Western folk too.

Tate like anyone can be ignored, but no, liberals doing what they do best, cancel and ban with those who do not agree with their warped thinking, worse still, find people guilty of a crime when there is no evidence! A proper stich up job by liberals and these are the same whoppers who cry justice, freedom, and equality!
 
“ Andrew Tate is currently in a Romanian prison cell, pretending an empty toilet paper roll is a cigar, and explaining how alpha he is to a few dozen roaches.”
 
I can tell you that the allegations and crimes against Tate are sexual exploitation, physical assault and rape as per the translated Romanian police press report. I have no idea about Romanian criminal law specifics - do you have any knowledge of their laws?

I have spoken lots on this forum about Tate self incriminating himself and you ask why therefore that Tate has not been charged. I can’t give you specifics as again this is all confidential information but why don’t you comment or give your view about why Tate has made such comments admitting being a pimp? I have an opinion that he said it because he did it! Simple answers sit comfortable with me.

If you still want my opinion on why Tate has not been charged then I could give a potential scenario. I am Waq, a PakPassion poster and if I admit on this forum that I have raped and murdered a woman then this maybe a confession and perhaps I have done the crime but police require to identify a victim to charge me. In the Tate case and looking at the victim information in the public domain then this could well be a possibility on why Tate is yet to be charged. Who knows but what I do know is he admits this and you and other posters don’t seem to want to go there.
 
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Since 2016, I have maintained the view that Liberalism is the new face of fascism.

Tate and his views are only a problem with Western liberals; because Islam scares them, the truth scares them. I say Western liberals and not the Liberal West, because Tate has appeared on Western TV shows, and is supported by Western folk too.

Tate like anyone can be ignored, but no, liberals doing what they do best, cancel and ban with those who do not agree with their warped thinking, worse still, find people guilty of a crime when there is no evidence! A proper stich up job by liberals and these are the same whoppers who cry justice, freedom, and equality!

Islam has scared the liberal godless civilisations since the beginning whose foundations are based on desire and controlling others who disagree.

As Tate stated he has influence and his views are against the mainstream, ie Ukraine war, Covid Vaccines, LBGT, Trans, state of western societies, their wars etc etc. They simply cannot afford to have someone with these views influencing the young people, giving them the ability to critically think for themselves. Him becoming a Muslim was the final straw for them.

The fake extremist liberals will tell you they value freedom of speech, let people burn the Quran, let them attack Islam, draw cartoons of their prophet but if the view is their they will do everything to stop it. This is the level of this clowns.


A recent meeting they held lol.

At UNESCO, a call to regulate digital platforms in the face of online disinformation and hate

https://www.unesco.org/en/articles/...platforms-face-online-disinformation-and-hate
 
Islam has scared the liberal godless civilisations since the beginning whose foundations are based on desire and controlling others who disagree.

As Tate stated he has influence and his views are against the mainstream, ie Ukraine war, Covid Vaccines, LBGT, Trans, state of western societies, their wars etc etc. They simply cannot afford to have someone with these views influencing the young people, giving them the ability to critically think for themselves. Him becoming a Muslim was the final straw for them.

The fake extremist liberals will tell you they value freedom of speech, let people burn the Quran, let them attack Islam, draw cartoons of their prophet but if the view is their they will do everything to stop it. This is the level of this clowns.


A recent meeting they held lol.



https://www.unesco.org/en/articles/...platforms-face-online-disinformation-and-hate

May I ask you question about this post and your views.

1) From what I can make out from this post, you are essentially giving an opinion that the west want to opress Islam in the mainstream media. My opinion is that yes this does happen.

2) You have stated that Andrew Tate is a Muslim and my view is that yes he may well be and I have no basis to refute this.

3) I have a view that Tate has committed crimes in the last few years and possibly even in recent times too. This is backed up by the simple fact that Tate has been arrested

In my view, all 3 points can all be correct and may have happened. Do you also share this possibility or do you have a more black and white view that this is west versus Islam and Tate’s potential criminal history is irrelevant for him to be arrested? If you choose to disregard any criminal allegations of Tate then do you accept that you are giving a west versus Islam narrative and you are ignoring specifics?
 
May I ask you question about this post and your views.

1) From what I can make out from this post, you are essentially giving an opinion that the west want to opress Islam in the mainstream media. My opinion is that yes this does happen.

2) You have stated that Andrew Tate is a Muslim and my view is that yes he may well be and I have no basis to refute this.

3) I have a view that Tate has committed crimes in the last few years and possibly even in recent times too. This is backed up by the simple fact that Tate has been arrested

In my view, all 3 points can all be correct and may have happened. Do you also share this possibility or do you have a more black and white view that this is west versus Islam and Tate’s potential criminal history is irrelevant for him to be arrested? If you choose to disregard any criminal allegations of Tate then do you accept that you are giving a west versus Islam narrative and you are ignoring specifics?

Tate was already being cancelled, him becoming a Muslim was another problem for the liberal agenda driven western regimes and their media.

This issue here is has this man committed a crime.

So far there are no charges against him.

Two of the women who are alleged victims, came out in the open and revealed they were not victims, they did everything with freedom. The prosecution claims they are mentally confused lol.

Leave religion out of this, I would still be interested in Tates case if he as a pagan.

You write "Tate has committed crimes" "d Tate’s potential criminal history"

Please tell us, what are these crimes, date of offence, convictions and location. Thanks
 
Tate was already being cancelled, him becoming a Muslim was another problem for the liberal agenda driven western regimes and their media.

This issue here is has this man committed a crime.

So far there are no charges against him.

Two of the women who are alleged victims, came out in the open and revealed they were not victims, they did everything with freedom. The prosecution claims they are mentally confused lol.

Leave religion out of this, I would still be interested in Tates case if he as a pagan.

You write "Tate has committed crimes" "d Tate’s potential criminal history"

Please tell us, what are these crimes, date of offence, convictions and location. Thanks

Ok so you as a poster feel that Tate was being cancelled before he even converted to Islam. I don’t like the term cancelled as the term is used loosely without context. I prefer to say something on the lines that instagram and other social media sites were actively looking at Tate’s accounts and censoring him or banning him but these tech firms were not consistently applying their policies to other user accounts.

Your post acknowledges that Tate was being censored before becoming Muslim and I share that view too.

Let me be clear too about my posts. Andrew Tate has not been charged of crimes against women but he has been arrested and is on remand for over 60 days.

If I say that I believe Tate is guilty then this is my opinion and not a fact of law. I base my opinion on videos I have seen of him pimping, which is consistent with the crimes that he has been arrested for.

I even posted on this thread a month or two ago that I have a social media model type female friend who was approached by Tristan Tate to go to Romania on an all expenses paid romantic date and this happened via her dm’s without him ever meeting her in person. This is consistent with the the prosecutions allegations against the Tate brothers using the ‘lover boy’ method of sexual exploitation and I have seen these dms but since I’m not sharing screenshots on here then I’m happy to be disbelieved or this to be disregarded.

I am aware in the media of two potential victims who state they were not sexually exploited and psychiatrist have given contrary evidence about their mental state. I can’t say much more without seeing the evidence and I don’t know how many victims there are overall.
 
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