Asia cup isn’t an ICC event. Pakistan behaved diplomatically and in a civil way by traveling to India to play the ICC WC. India needs to stay within their aukaat and play the tournament. The Lahore crowd will treat them nicely if they’re scared, unlike the Ahmedabad crowd who showed their true aukaat by racially abusing the Pakistani team.
That’s the spiritHopefully we will come and humiliated pakistan at Lahore infornt of home crowds on 1 March 2025 .
I doubt any military or GOI official has a say. It will be a Modi/Shah decision and they dont reveal anything till the appropriate time.
and the difference is?
After they were told WI will be happy to take their place. Want me pull up Wasim Khan, najam sethi and Zaka's non sense ramblings?
Nah. IMO india needs to sit back watch the tourney crash and burn.
Its not stadium crowd thats teh problem. Its teh route to the stadium. ask the SL team when they got presidential security.
saying Jai shri ram scared the pak team? wow. Racially abused? are paksitani's different race from Indians? news to me
That's nice way to talk to someone who basically funds 50% of PCB revenue.
The difference is Indian fans used the excuse that Asia Cup wasn’t an ICC event therefore India could boycott it if it wasn’t played at a neutral venue. Now that Pakistan is hosting an ICC event you need to pick a lane, either play the event where it’s being hosted or don’t come. For years we’ve heard India will only play Pakistan in ICC events, no bilaterals or other series.
But it’s a nice way for Indians to talk to another ICC member? You can’t have it both ways, if BCCI is funding the PCB they aren’t doing it for charity, that’s the revenue sharing model India agreed to. If you don’t like it then change it.That's nice way to talk to someone who basically funds 50% of PCB revenue.
Zabardasti hai kya. India won't come. Convincing ICC to let the tournament go ahead without India should be within your "aukaat".
Why come begging to BCCI again.
There was no excuse. It was out right showing PCB who was boss
I personally hope India doesn't go
SO you have moved on from the racially abused narrative?
Agreed. I'm actually surprised some Indians... especially expat Indians are so confident India won't travel. I think it's closer to 50-50 personally. On the diplomatic front, there are signs of a thaw. Both sides have unusually restrained in statements blaming each for internal terrorist incidents etc. Dar's statement has also been pretty conciliatory.
Karlo case .. BCCI will enjoy another little influx of money from PCB
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What about the increasing terror activity in J&K? India has been ignoring any statement from Pakistan from the last couple of years. I don't see any change in any of the stands.
Yeah it's a concern but even there the Indian government has been unusually reticent in blaming cross-border terrorism. Statements have been at a local level - J&K governor, police etc.
Yes. They should replace India with other team willing to come.
BJP has won the elections but barely. And highlighting militancy in Jammu Kashmir only puts a spotlight on their security failures which will embolden the opposition more. Hence, the quiet treatment from Delhi.
BCCI is not stopping PCB or ICC from doing that. If Govt permission is not there, BCCI cant do anything about participation.
Agreed... anything is possible. I'm not saying confidently that India will travel either. It's just surprising that so many folks are confident they won't. As I said, I think it's closer to 50-50.
Its been 10 years, and I dont see any change in behavior. and honestly, India sees little benefit in engaging with Pakistan. Apart from defense on the western front, India has been operating as if Pakistan doesn't exist. Zero business engagement, zero cultural connect.
Its better that way. Why useless players will earn millions without any performance? PCB is too generous to give these wanna be players high salary. None should get over $50k USD per year. USA has better players than us getting not even 5% salary compare to our players.
Lol the BCCI is a large organisation. The person responsible for planning the party isn't the same as the one responsible for other things. They can work on things in parallel instead of holding the world hostage while someone is trying to figure out how many samosas to order.
Trust me some utlra cringe moments are coming up in these celebrations
A felicitation at Rajpath would have been legendary!
They are well deserved. A bit of cringe in celebrations makes them more joyous. It's just the norm in Asia that the bureaucrats will celebrate more than those who did the work.Trust me some utlra cringe moments are coming up in these celebrations
True, pakistanis don't get this. Even an INDIA alliance govt wouldn't send the team to Pak
I do understand the history of india-pakistan relations and I do understand that it won't change in the near future. IMO having good relations with your neighbors is essential for long term security and growth. It has not worked in the past but that doesn't mean it cannot work in the future. We have poor relations with a lot of our neighbors and it is never too late to change that.
BJP alliance is more likely to send it in the current climate than the opposition
How did ICC approved with such 90s like condition ?
Honestly, India won't mind forfeiting. Its ICC and other boards who will suffer more. BCCI will simply organise a parallel series during that time.
What secret reports are you getting in Pakistan that we are not aware of the political climate in India?
India skipping will be loss for everyone, BCCI will make up for some of the loss and move on. They have been losing millions by not having a series with Pakistan for a decade now. Once BCCI skips, it will be demise of Champions trophy which has been long over due.
Brother, your understanding of the impact and the control of politics is very limited and it makes sense I won't have the understanding of the nuances of Pakistani politics.
Again, they are not engaging with PCB they are engaging with ICC.
What will PCB do? They will ring you of course and seek your advice, remember to stay home and answer the phone when they call.
What fantasy lands are you living in?
Did the PCB force the ICC to give it hosting rights for the tournament?Hurting Pakistan emotionally, politically and economically is political win, why will anyone forego such a chance. Sidhu hugged and called Imran Khan his brother and see where his career went.
You have been following and seeing what happens in tournaments for more than a decade and still making such naive posts that things "should have / could have/ would have".
The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) had threatened to boycott the 2023 Cricket World Cup if the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) refused to send a team to the 2023 Asia Cup scheduled in Pakistan. On 15 June 2023, the Asian Cricket Council announced that the tournament would be organized in a hybrid model with four matches being held in Pakistan, and the remaining nine in Sri Lanka
BCCI can certainly take its own sweet time. So far in all the tussle for the last 10 years, all we have seen is PCB makes "brave" bombastic statements and threats. Things go back and forth and things get done as per what BCCI wants and PCB follows. Oh and also PCB paid legal compensation of more than Million dollars to BCCI.
It's unfair! Yes completely. But thats is what is.
There’s no use arguing, you will just go around in circles with these guys. Let’s wait and see what happens come February.
India has not for once expressed that they are ok going to Pakistan since the Mumbai terror attacks.
Why do you think BCCI is taking so long to take any decision?
First of all thanks!!
That's what we as Indians don't understand about PCB and Pakistan in general. Ghairat means infinitely more to them than dollars. Don't be surprised if they slap BCCI with another 2.5 million giveaway soon.Karlo case .. BCCI will enjoy another little influx of money from PCB
It's kinda charity when India is not interested in playing Pakistan in bilateral and if PCB annoys BCCI more see this revenue sharing model go for a toss too. PCB has no leverage here, you guys have been threatening since 2009 but BCCI has been doing its own sweet things. BCCI has only grown stronger since then. The only thing that PCB has managed is to pay BCCI sweet sweet US$1.6 Million
ICC can't do jack. ICC has never been a fair governing Body. till 90s England and Australia had veto power in its functioning and now its dictated by the big 3. It has always been skewed one way or the other. and Let's be fair almost all world bodies are like that, FIFA, IOC can ban Russia while Israel continues in sports. Is that fair?
I don't care about SL or BD.
That's first part of my post. Second part was an advise what PCB can do to counter these political dances Modi and BCCI make PCB do every now and then.
BCCI is cricket board of India and cricket is blossoming in India by leaps and bounds. They are fulfilling their mandate.
BCCI actually wanted tournaments with Pakistan till Government of India threw in the spanner and what did PCB do? Sue BCCI.
A very easy decision for the ICC. Move on to the next team. SL get to play. India don't. Neither does India get any $$ from the profit distribution. CT goes on as planned.
@BouncerGuy :
Why ICC made Pakistan the host for this event then???
Ok so everything is PCB fault and tantrums OKAY OKAY.
Else PCB will throw a tantarum "Mera number kab aayega"
Pakistan applied for to be host, its not ICC that made Pakistan host by zabardasti.
PCB has been burning bridges for more than a decade now.
Pakistan lost its co-host status in 2011 world Cup after attack on Sri Lanka team in 2009. Then also PCB tried to sue ICC.
On 9 April 2009, PCB chairman Ijaz Butt revealed that they had issued a legal notice to oppose ICC's decision.[22] The ICC, however, claimed that the PCB was still a co-host, and that they had only relocated the matches out of Pakistan.
I have been talking cricket only. I have been laying just facts and hard realities.
