[VIDEOS] Saim Ayub - Young Pakistani batting prospect

The only such type of player who could have actually become a beast was Nasir Jamshed but sadly he threw it away like Asif
 
please stop comparing him to saeed anwar, honestly, how can someone with no fc centuries be compared to someone who was arguably the best test opener of his generation?

he has a few good flashy strokes but he is nowhere as aesthetically pleasing as anwar, and in talent terms 21yo saim is miles off of 21 yo saeed.

I think the comparison is stylistic and this kid definitely has the effortless timing and grace. Again, that doesn't mean he will be saeed anwar or even close to him.
Secondly, saeed anwar debuted in 89 in ODIs, he was 22 i think by that point and had three seasons of FC. I don't have the resources to research his FC record prior to debut but i would think he would be massively experienced. Saim averages 32 in 10 games in FC and 47 in 14 games in List A. i think it is unnecessarily critical to put him down. he clearly needs more work but has demonstrable talent.
 
I think the comparison is stylistic and this kid definitely has the effortless timing and grace. Again, that doesn't mean he will be saeed anwar or even close to him.
Secondly, saeed anwar debuted in 89 in ODIs, he was 22 i think by that point and had three seasons of FC. I don't have the resources to research his FC record prior to debut but i would think he would be massively experienced. Saim averages 32 in 10 games in FC and 47 in 14 games in List A. i think it is unnecessarily critical to put him down. he clearly needs more work but has demonstrable talent.

I'm not putting him down, but saving him from a dangerous comparison, stylistically saim ayub throws his hands at the ball far more anwar, who used deft footwork to get himself in superior positions, so even when he was playing full blooded shots they seemed to flow with a natural grace.

saim could be a good player, but his propensity to throw his hands, if not corrected, will limit his potential as a batsman imo.
 
Saim Ayub 57*(29) so far - amazing strokeplay and taking on Lahore (and Pakistan's) top bowlers on with ease.

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I'm not putting him down, but saving him from a dangerous comparison, stylistically saim ayub throws his hands at the ball far more anwar, who used deft footwork to get himself in superior positions, so even when he was playing full blooded shots they seemed to flow with a natural grace.

saim could be a good player, but his propensity to throw his hands, if not corrected, will limit his potential as a batsman imo.

different eras, different players. By your logic Sehwag would never be a good player. Each player has his own movements and limitations. As long as the player understands his own game he can manage that.
 
Looks like Saeed anwar esque. But he needs to learn how to put his foot down once the power player is over. Still got a fair bit to go but the best batting talent in pakistan by a mile
 
Saim Ayub 57*(29) so far - amazing strokeplay and taking on Lahore (and Pakistan's) top bowlers on with ease.

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Great stroke play, but also simple evidence that he should not be picked for Pakistan anytime soon. He got lucky more than a few times with balls off the leading edge flying to no man’s land.

He needs to fully develop his game before a call up
 
Full highlights of Saim's innings 68(36) vs LQ in Match 23

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And a nice gesture by Rashid as Saim left

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Looks like Saeed anwar esque. But he needs to learn how to put his foot down once the power player is over. Still got a fair bit to go but the best batting talent in pakistan by a mile

He is QDK of Pakistan. Very talented and very aggressive batsman.
 
Brilliant innings from Saim today

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Saeed Anwar - Saim Ayub comparisons

Many experts and a few commentators have commented that watching this guy bat reminds them of Saeed Anwar especially the wrist work, the ramp shots and cover drive, straight drive.

What does everyone think?
 
Beautiful and classy batting from Ayub.

Since his innings against LQ, I’ve become a fan of him.

He will be better than Kohli.
 
He is the best batting talent prospect from Pakistan in the past two decades.

He’s defintely like prime Jamshed like a poster said.
 
He is the best batting talent prospect from Pakistan in the past two decades.

He’s defintely like prime Jamshed like a poster said.

Seriously getting ahead of ourselves here .

Can’t believe what I’m reading
 
He is the best batting talent prospect from Pakistan in the past two decades.

He’s defintely like prime Jamshed like a poster said.

How can these 2 statements go together.You mean to say that jamshed was the best batting talent of pakistan in the last 20 years.
 
How can these 2 statements go together.You mean to say that jamshed was the best batting talent of pakistan in the last 20 years.

Yea, I think that Nasir Jamshed was the best batting talent prospect of Pakistan in the last 20 years.

No Pakistani batter that I know of since 2003 was more talented than Jamshed.

Saim Ayub is the best talent I’ve seen since then.
 
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Yea, I think that Nasir Jamshed was the best batting talent prospect of Pakistan in the last 20 years.

No Pakistani batter that I know of since 2003 was more talented than Jamshed.

Saim Ayub is the best talent I’ve seen since then.

Salman Butt was good as well for white ball cricket. He would have done well had he not gone down the wrong path
 
Salman Butt was good as well for white ball cricket. He would have done well had he not gone down the wrong path

Yes if a strike rate of 70 is your benchmark for one days! And Butt generally struggled to get going in T20.
 
Yes if a strike rate of 70 is your benchmark for one days! And Butt generally struggled to get going in T20.

He debuted in 2004 and that was a different era. Butt was a good player of pace and piercing the field in the powerplay. 6 ODI hundreds against India, so he was an India basher which is the kind of player you need.
 
Salman Butt was good as well for white ball cricket. He would have done well had he not gone down the wrong path

Salman Butt was another classy talent just like Jamshed.

He even deserved a comeback that was stolen from him.

Much better batter than Misbah, Shafiq, etc. that occupied the squads few years ago.
 
Yea, I think that Nasir Jamshed was the best batting talent prospect of Pakistan in the last 20 years.

No Pakistani batter that I know of since 2003 was more talented than Jamshed.

Saim Ayub is the best talent I’ve seen since then.

Are you kidding me just because he got 3 100s against a below average indian bowling lineup he was the most talented pakistani batsmen since 2003.The guy failed everytime he steped outside the sub-continent.Was a FTB at best.
 
Are you kidding me just because he got 3 100s against a below average indian bowling lineup he was the most talented pakistani batsmen since 2003.The guy failed everytime he steped outside the sub-continent.Was a FTB at best.

Hahah. I thought I read the worst post of the year when this poster stated Faheem is better then Babar now Saim is better then Kohli and finally this. Nasir Jamshed was a rubbish bat and looked a tail ender when ever he stepped outside SC.
 
He is a good player but my school ground had bigger boundaries . Some of his sixes would have been caught inside the ground at any "normal" ground.
 
He debuted in 2004 and that was a different era. Butt was a good player of pace and piercing the field in the powerplay. 6 ODI hundreds against India, so he was an India basher which is the kind of player you need.
An India bashed in an era when India lacked quality pacers.
His t20 strike rate is 112. That’s pretty pathetic.
 
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Too early for international selection or do you feel he is ready?
 
Too early for international selection or do you feel he is ready?

He certainly needs to be thrown into T20Is. England throw in the likes of Salt, Duckett, Brook. India throw in the likes of Kishan, SKY, Samson. This format is good for talents like Saim.

In terms of ODIs, the top order is closed at the moment. Imam, Fakhar, Babar are unmovable.
 
Seems like he can become a decent bowler too, especially against left handers.
 
Clearly a talented lad, but it’s too early for him. He needs to bulk up and add more shots against spin.

Also need to learn the ramp for short bowling.

I remember how we destroyed Haider Ali’s development. We need to be careful w/ Saim. He’s very good but still undercooked.
 
Clearly a talented lad, but it’s too early for him. He needs to bulk up and add more shots against spin.

Also need to learn the ramp for short bowling.

I remember how we destroyed Haider Ali’s development. We need to be careful w/ Saim. He’s very good but still undercooked.

100% right.

We've seen it too many times in Pakistan cricket, young player looks good, throw him into international cricket, struggles and then disappears.
 
No need for soft runs.

Saim has a lot to prove yet Let him play domestics for 2 years including fc cricket before we throw the kid into the lions den

Why dont we learn from the many examples in the past?
 
Clearly a talented lad, but it’s too early for him. He needs to bulk up and add more shots against spin.

Also need to learn the ramp for short bowling.

I remember how we destroyed Haider Ali’s development. We need to be careful w/ Saim. He’s very good but still undercooked.

Haider Ali seems to me not a very smart guy, Saim looks an intelligent young man. He analyze the situation better and his match awareness is very good for his age . Saim is ready to be tried at national level, where he will learn even more.
 
Strong wrists and quick reflexes with great hand-eye coordination. Very unPakistani like talent - but definitely a very promising talent.

However, there is a good 80% chance that he will fail in the international arena - for two main reasons.

1 - False Flag. He is feeling good about hitting sixes in these 57 meter boundaries, but in the international games he won't last long when the boundaries are stretched to 70/75 meters.

2 - Somewhat Immature and inexperienced. He seems to believe primarily in hitting sixes.

To counter both these points, he needs to build some muscle - but more importantly, he needs to learn and focus on how to play more grounded shots in the gaps to get more fours.

In bigger grounds, you will get catch out on miss-hits when you try a six, so trying to hit more fours is THE BEST approach.

We lost the T20 WC exactly due to lack of this super important point in match awareness. Many of our batters got out trying to hit six in that large Australian ground. None thought about using common sense and hit more fours instead.
 
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He will need to prove himself on pitches that aren't complete pancakes, but nevertheless I'm impressed with the level of stroke-play I've seen. He doesn't blindly slog as much as Haris or Haider.
 
Haider Ali seems to me not a very smart guy, Saim looks an intelligent young man. He analyze the situation better and his match awareness is very good for his age . Saim is ready to be tried at national level, where he will learn even more.

It’s all in the benefit of hindsight. Different plays develop at different rates.

Haider when he first came onto the scene was a breath of fresh air, with his aggression. But he also missed a ton of domestic cricket because of his cycle of being picked and dropped for Pakistan, or spending time carrying the drinks forever. The lad lost valuable time in understanding and developing his own game.

Easy to say that he’s not intelligent, but Haider did not get the opportunity to refine his game in domestic cricket.

Saim did. People forget that Saim’s already played in the PSL, in 2021 for Quetta. He looked like a deer in headlights, and many posters on this forum wrote him off. He went away, worked on his game, played loads of domestic cricket and is now a much better player.

However, Saim is still not a complete player. He needs to transform his body, pack on muscle, and work to further improve his bat swing and apply those new shots in domestic cricket. That’s how we’ll get a fully developed prospect, as opposed to a half cooked player who has to learn on the go during international tours. That’s how we stop Saim going that Haider way.
 
I watch salmi just to see his batting. Very stylish and the flourish after he hits the ball is a site to behold.
 
Highlights of Saim's innings against MS where he made 58(33)

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Highlights of Saim's innings against MS where he made 58(33)

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His best innings this PSL. Find of the tournament for sure (he was performing prior to this- but the PSL has given him more of a spotlight)
 
He will need to prove himself on pitches that aren't complete pancakes, but nevertheless I'm impressed with the level of stroke-play I've seen. He doesn't blindly slog as much as Haris or Haider.

Don’t worry. Most t20 pitches are pancakes.

Also, can’t bunch Haris with Haider lol. Haris was clutch more often than not in the time he had in the WC. The phainty he gave SA (best attack of the WC) could not have been done via pure slogging. Did far more than Haider.

He’s only hitting 20s and 30s, but soon enough his game will develop too In Sha Allah.

There’s a reason he’s called Google. Am sure he’s working on himself to improve his game.
 
Strong wrists and quick reflexes with great hand-eye coordination. Very unPakistani like talent - but definitely a very promising talent.

However, there is a good 80% chance that he will fail in the international arena - for two main reasons.

1 - False Flag. He is feeling good about hitting sixes in these 57 meter boundaries, but in the international games he won't last long when the boundaries are stretched to 70/75 meters.

2 - Somewhat Immature and inexperienced. He seems to believe primarily in hitting sixes.

To counter both these points, he needs to build some muscle - but more importantly, he needs to learn and focus on how to play more grounded shots in the gaps to get more fours.

In bigger grounds, you will get catch out on miss-hits when you try a six, so trying to hit more fours is THE BEST approach.

We lost the T20 WC exactly due to lack of this super important point in match awareness. Many of our batters got out trying to hit six in that large Australian ground. None thought about using common sense and hit more fours instead.

So pretty much the same issues as Mohammad Haris.
 
Earns a callup to the T20I squad against Afghanistan, hope he gets an opening spot in all 3 games to show what he can do
 
He has earned Call up rightly and if he scores well in these 3 matches then he should remain in the side otherwise it’s better for him to play domestic and honed his skill set
 
I want him to do well, but I just worry that the call-up has come too soon.

Time will tell.
 
I can gaurentee all of Babar’s and Rizwan’s fans will want him to fail every game
 
I can gaurentee all of Babar’s and Rizwan’s fans will want him to fail every game

He must be given at least 7-8 consecutive games before any judgment is passed. That’s the way to handle highly promising talent.

Afghanistan in the UAE is a tough proposition especially with Rashid playing on those spinning tracks. Their left arm opening pace bowler has also been fantastic this psl.
 
I want him to do well, but I just worry that the call-up has come too soon.

Time will tell.

I personally believe he has the skills to play all 3 formats and at the moment his game is yet to develop upto the level of Test cricket especially and to an extent ODI cricket for now. In an ideal world he should have been given couple of more seasons of domestic and PSL cricket to develop but, this is not how it has been going in the setup since few years.

I dont mind his selection purely based upon skills but, if he is selected in squads of other formats and then sits on bench of Pak team throughout the year playing here and there while missing red ball cricket then that would be really unfair to him as his development would be halted as we have seen with quite a few young Pakistani players recently.
 
There seems to be a technical issue as well. That backfoot doesn't move at all to cover the line of the ball or to get on top of short pitched balls

What I observed November last year. Pretty evident in his dismissal today
 
Seen enough of him overrated not good enough for international. Mini over rated sharjeel
 
I can gaurentee all of Babar’s and Rizwan’s fans will want him to fail every game

All your replacements wouldn't even get in a pub team in the UK.

There's something seriously gone wrong with our cricket
 
He's a good young player who'll learn. Got in a awkward position playing one that has could've left alone.
 
These kids need some experience around them.

I think the selectors went overboard in picking new players.
 
These kids need some experience around them.

I think the selectors went overboard in picking new players.

Imad, Shadab, Nawaz and Nasim have decent experience. 4 experienced players is decent in the playing eleven. The selectors and the PCB gave these youngsters a chance and they squandered it.
 
Imad, Shadab, Nawaz and Nasim have decent experience. 4 experienced players is decent in the playing eleven. The selectors and the PCB gave these youngsters a chance and they squandered it.

None are top order batters though.
 
These kids need some experience around them.

I think the selectors went overboard in picking new players.

Mickey with same sentiments.

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Mickey with same sentiments.

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I want Pakistan to play with the same team and rest Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Rauf against a D NZ team. Will make the contest more interesting.
 
These kids need some experience around them.

I think the selectors went overboard in picking new players.
All this tour has done was damage confidence of some youngsters by having them fight amongst themselves for a spot. The know that when Babar and Rizwan (and possibly fakhar and others) come back some of them will lose their spot. So extremely pressurised situation.

Should have batted with Rizwan and Babar. Way less pressure, easier to perform. And because they aren’t playing in the positions of established players in the team, more room to give them longer runs even if they do fail.

Now we have a bunch of youngsters with poor stats, low confidence, blamed for the first ever defeat against Afghanistan.
 
All this tour has done was damage confidence of some youngsters by having them fight amongst themselves for a spot. The know that when Babar and Rizwan (and possibly fakhar and others) come back some of them will lose their spot. So extremely pressurised situation.

Should have batted with Rizwan and Babar. Way less pressure, easier to perform. And because they aren’t playing in the positions of established players in the team, more room to give them longer runs even if they do fail.

Now we have a bunch of youngsters with poor stats, low confidence, blamed for the first ever defeat against Afghanistan.

India usually rests Kohli, Sharma and other senior players in series like these. Our youngsters simply need to man up and step up.

Playing Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Rauf against Afghanistan and a depleted NZ team serves no purpose.
 
Imad, Shadab, Nawaz and Nasim have decent experience. 4 experienced players is decent in the playing eleven. The selectors and the PCB gave these youngsters a chance and they squandered it.

None are top order batsmen.

We could have rested Babar in this series and Rizwan in the next.

Alternatively we could have 'rested' the opening pair of RizBab and let Saim and Haris have opportunities in opening alongside them.

I think we went overboard in selecting too many raw players and Saim ended up in waters too deep.
 
None are top order batsmen.

We could have rested Babar in this series and Rizwan in the next.

Alternatively we could have 'rested' the opening pair of RizBab and let Saim and Haris have opportunities in opening alongside them.

I think we went overboard in selecting too many raw players and Saim ended up in waters too deep.

Excuses, I have seen India rest the likes of Kohli, Sharma, Dhawan and co many times in series against Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka etc.
 
India usually rests Kohli, Sharma and other senior players in series like these. Our youngsters simply need to man up and step up.

Playing Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Rauf against Afghanistan and a depleted NZ team serves no purpose.
It’s because we have just two experienced batsmen that they play.

In the Zimbabwe India series they were still playing a top three of Dhawan, Rahul and Gill. That’s just way more experience and batting strength than we have despite Rohit and Kohli gone.

India also have batting riches that we don’t and a more pressurised IPL. We all know we struggle with batting, hence we can’t really afford to make it even harder for youngsters to cement their place in the side.
 
Sensible batting, something that Haris can learn from - Read the pitch, and know your limits.

Love this from Saim.
 
Good character building innings - should be in our T20 XI for the next game

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I rate this Innings highly it has shown people that he can adapt his game even thou his instincts are to attack.
 
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