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[VIDEOS] Why anti Muslim bias is so profound among Hindutva supporters?

happydavy said:
Ok we are celebrating and what about you? You are sad or disappointed, right? now since you care so much about ur muslims brothers so tell us when exactly did u shed tears about Syrians casualities, i guess close to a million people have died in Syria in the last few years and they are all muslims. Or how about Yemen, where again half a million have got killed in the last 10 years and all muslims. Your heart doesn't beat for those poor muslims and if it does, show us one post you ever made for them? Over 50 people got killed in Pakistan last couple of days in the shia Sunni fight and we never saw a post from you for your Muslim brothers and sisters. And what about ugurs muslims in china, in the rehabilitation camp they are made to eat pork and drink beer but you don't give a damn.

Stop fooling yourself or others, you give a rat a$$ about muslims, you are fond of Hamas and hezbollah because they are at war with Jews. The day you start actually caring for muslims, you will have my respect until then you are just a religious fanatic who gets affected when it's muslims vs Jews, not when it's just muslims. Atleast we care about Hindus whether it's in Pakistan or Bangladesh, we aren't hypocrites.
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Pakistani converts think they are part of the war between ppl of the book Jews and Arabs. Reality is Arabs and Jews look down on the converts, an Arab kid most likely would much rather go and play with a Jewish kid than a Pakistani convert muslim kid.
 
No one has gave a reason why there shouldnt be bias against muslims among hindus.

Muslims ruled India for 1000 years, plundered, looted and converted millions of hindus, even in modern day India is plagued with Islamic terrorism. So it is obvious that there will some Islamophobia in India especially among Hindus.
 
happydavy said:
Ok we are celebrating and what about you? You are sad or disappointed, right? now since you care so much about ur muslims brothers so tell us when exactly did u shed tears about Syrians casualities, i guess close to a million people have died in Syria in the last few years and they are all muslims. Or how about Yemen, where again half a million have got killed in the last 10 years and all muslims. Your heart doesn't beat for those poor muslims and if it does, show us one post you ever made for them? Over 50 people got killed in Pakistan last couple of days in the shia Sunni fight and we never saw a post from you for your Muslim brothers and sisters. And what about ugurs muslims in china, in the rehabilitation camp they are made to eat pork and drink beer but you don't give a damn.

Stop fooling yourself or others, you give a rat a$$ about muslims, you are fond of Hamas and hezbollah because they are at war with Jews. The day you start actually caring for muslims, you will have my respect until then you are just a religious fanatic who gets affected when it's muslims vs Jews, not when it's just muslims. Atleast we care about Hindus whether it's in Pakistan or Bangladesh, we aren't hypocrites.
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your views will be dismissed as whataboutery .... wait and watch
 
Romali_rotti said:
Pakistani converts think they are part of the war between ppl of the book Jews and Arabs. Reality is Arabs and Jews look down on the converts, an Arab kid most likely would much rather go and play with a Jewish kid than a Pakistani convert muslim kid.
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Dude, Pakistan is a confused nation. Other day I was in china and met this Pakistani guy at a bar who was telling me he's from Chauhan lineage and that he has Hindu roots. Muslims in Pakistan and India are in difficult situation, arabs don't care about them like one bit while they want to be part of that circle. They think they can wear a kandoora in dubai and sheikhs will start considering them brothers, while sheikhs have no respect for them, infact all the sheikhs want to do business with Indians/Hindus. They now have started thinking Iran is their new brother and India's enemy, little do they know of the relationship between Iran and India. As recent as 2 months back Iran signed an agreement with us for Chabhar port in Iran, which is largely developed by Indian companies and financed by India and Iran, for 10 years to be operated by an Indian company. If there is one Muslim sect in India that support Modi wholeheartedly is Shias, and their historical links with Iran go back centuries.
 
One mans freedom fighter is anothers terrorist

Indians forget their own history of being occupied by a foreign white power.

If they held their current standards they would call Bhagat Singh and his ilk terrorists too
 
FearlessRoar said:
They are using government powers to suppress Muslims in India.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1840364653664256096
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You can try as much to push agenda and AJ can keep trying their propoganda its not working.

The structures encroached the land of the Somnath Temple. Court ordered the demolition.

A part of the freed land, the Collector said, belonged to Shree Somnath Trust (SST), which manages the Somnath Temple, while the rest belonged to the state government. “The government had allotted some plots of land to Somnath Trust in the 1950s on a lease for 99 years. Over time, these plots were encroached. The matter had reached the Gujarat High Court in 1986 but the ruling had come in favour of the government. A lawsuit was filed again in 2006 and reached the Gujarat High Court one more time in 2020. But the court didn’t grant the encroachers any relief. Hence, the encroachments have been removed,” said Jadeja.


This victim card playing is old find a new play.
 
Bhaijaan said:
It’s a disgrace.
Muslims must have better standards for martyrdom. Can’t just call cowards like this rat martyrs. It’s just bad PR.
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They think that leftist media and propoganda media like AJ giving them cover is enough for PR.
 
Zaz said:
One mans freedom fighter is anothers terrorist

Indians forget their own history of being occupied by a foreign white power.

If they held their current standards they would call Bhagat Singh and his ilk terrorists too
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Lebanon a Christian majority country had its demographics changed due to influx of muslim refugees. Leading to a civil war.

Its amusing how these freedom fighters of PP are fighting Buddhists in Burma, Hindus in India, Jews in Israel, Christians in Lebanon, seems only Muslims are allowed to have a country, rest everyone is an occupier.
 
Zaz said:
One mans freedom fighter is anothers terrorist

Indians forget their own history of being occupied by a foreign white power.

If they held their current standards they would call Bhagat Singh and his ilk terrorists too
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Bhai, go and support your new age bhagat singhs na, why wasting energy online. It's your duty to help your brethrens, why lecture others on what to do when you yourself aren't following the Quranic verses?
 
Bhagat Singh did not kill innocents.
Bhagat Singh did not run away and hide in a bunker scared for his life.

He embraced death like a brave hero.
His his is what a martyr is.

Not your child killer women rapist Hezbollh Hamas coward dogs.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Another evidence of glaring anti Muslim bias is the celebration of Hindutva supporters today after the news of Hassan Nasrallah martyrdom. Although he had nothing to do with India.
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It is because their hatred for Muslims probably surpasses that of the israelis because their enmity is based on survival. Hindutva hatred is based more on humiliation of Islamic rule in the past from my observation.
 
happydavy said:
Stop fooling yourself or others, you give a rat about muslims to guys like me, you are fond of Hamas and hezbollah because they are at war with Jews. The day you start actually caring for muslims, you will have my respect until then you are just a religious fanatic who gets affected when it's muslims vs Jews, not when it's just muslims. Atleast we care about Hindus whether it's in Pakistan or Bangladesh, we aren't hypocrites.
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Wrong I have condemned violence against Uyghurs too and also condemn violence against Uyghurs and unlike you guys who show duplicity have raised concerns over violence against Bangladesh Hindus too. So please do make a research before spreading your propoganda
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Another evidence of glaring anti Muslim bias is the celebration of Hindutva supporters today after the news of Hassan Nasrallah martyrdom. Although he had nothing to do with India.
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Quoting your own post from another thread -

Don't muddle and mix things. Muslims and Islamists are two separate entities.


**Bolded words are edited. You still don't see a contradiction?
 

UP judge sentences Muslim man to life in controversial ‘love jihad’ case​


A Hindu judge has sentenced a Muslim man, Mohammad Aalim, to life in prison in a case framed under the controversial notion of “love jihad” in BJP ruled Uttar Pradesh state.

According to Kashmir Media Servie, this “love jihad” term is often employed to suggest that Muslim men trick Hindu women into relationships to convert them to Islam.

Judge Ravi Kumar Diwakar issued a 42-page order elaborating on the concept of “love jihad,” despite the woman involved later retracting her testimony. Importantly, Aalim was not charged under a specific law designed to combat unlawful religious conversions in Uttar Pradesh, raising concerns about the motivations behind the ruling.

During the trial, the woman stated that she had been pressured by individuals from Hindu organizations, who reportedly told her parents that her relationship with a Muslim man was unacceptable. Despite her retraction, Judge Diwakar expressed skepticism, suggesting it was coerced by Aalim. The judge focused on the woman’s initial allegations that she was misled into marriage.

This case highlights the broader narrative surrounding “love jihad,” often used to target and vilify Muslim individuals in interfaith relationships, perpetuating a climate of fear and suspicion.

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UP judge sentences Muslim man to life in controversial ‘love jihad’ case | Kashmir Media Service

Lucknow: A Hindu judge has sentenced a Muslim man, Mohammad Aalim, to life in prison in a case framed under the controversial notion of "love jihad” in BJP ruled Uttar Pradesh state. According to Kashmir Media Servie, this “love jihad” term is often employed to suggest that Muslim men trick...
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AIMIM seeks action against Yati Narsinghanand for hate speech

Hyderabad parliamentarian Asaduddin Owaisi on Saturday (October 5, 2024) met with the city police Commissioner C.V. Anand and submitted a representation urging the police to register a case against controversial religious figure Yati Narsinghanand Saraswati for allegedly delivering a hate speech against Prophet Muhammad, and stoking communal tensions.

The complaint refers to a speech Mr. Narsinghanand made ahead of the Dasara festival, in which he allegedly made derogatory remarks against Prophet Muhammad. In a post on X, prior to meeting with Mr. Anand, Mr. Owaisi described the comments as “highly condemnable, derogatory, filthy, and obnoxious.” The representation too uses these words.

The representation, which contained a translation of Mr. Narsinghanand’s speech, claimed that said speech was widely shared on social media.

Mr. Owaisi stated that the speech was an “egregious attempt to induce people of one religious community to commit offences against the followers of another religious community,” and noted that this was both a cognizable and non-bailable offence.

Mr. Owaisi, who is the president of the All India Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen, requested that Mr. Narsinghanand be arrested immediately under various provisions of the Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita (BNS), the Information Technology Act, and the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act (UAPA). He also sought the removal of the offensive videos from social media platforms to prevent unrest or threats to law and order in Hyderabad and Telangana.

The AIMIM president recalled that a division bench of the Supreme Court, in the Ashwini Kumar Upadhyay vs. Union of India case, had directed states and union territories to register suo motu First Information Reports (FIRs) against individuals who deliver hate speeches, irrespective of their religious affiliation.

SOURCE: https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...inghanand-for-hate-speech/article68721046.ece
 
FearlessRoar said:

UP judge sentences Muslim man to life in controversial ‘love jihad’ case​


A Hindu judge has sentenced a Muslim man, Mohammad Aalim, to life in prison in a case framed under the controversial notion of “love jihad” in BJP ruled Uttar Pradesh state.

According to Kashmir Media Servie, this “love jihad” term is often employed to suggest that Muslim men trick Hindu women into relationships to convert them to Islam.

Judge Ravi Kumar Diwakar issued a 42-page order elaborating on the concept of “love jihad,” despite the woman involved later retracting her testimony. Importantly, Aalim was not charged under a specific law designed to combat unlawful religious conversions in Uttar Pradesh, raising concerns about the motivations behind the ruling.

During the trial, the woman stated that she had been pressured by individuals from Hindu organizations, who reportedly told her parents that her relationship with a Muslim man was unacceptable. Despite her retraction, Judge Diwakar expressed skepticism, suggesting it was coerced by Aalim. The judge focused on the woman’s initial allegations that she was misled into marriage.

This case highlights the broader narrative surrounding “love jihad,” often used to target and vilify Muslim individuals in interfaith relationships, perpetuating a climate of fear and suspicion.

kmsnews.org

UP judge sentences Muslim man to life in controversial ‘love jihad’ case | Kashmir Media Service

Lucknow: A Hindu judge has sentenced a Muslim man, Mohammad Aalim, to life in prison in a case framed under the controversial notion of "love jihad” in BJP ruled Uttar Pradesh state. According to Kashmir Media Servie, this “love jihad” term is often employed to suggest that Muslim men trick...
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Lol. Puts into perspective how seriously you can take Indian judges and their saffron tinted binoculars. Imagine actually using love jihad as a legal definition...that too after the key witness has withdrawn her testimony.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
@Josh, some more stats for you. And this is not Al Jazeera or TRT poll too

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For me? Why?

Not sure how these figures are calculated but targetting someone based on one's religion is a condemnable thing and India has had quite a few of these cases lately. With social media and uneducated masses, it's easy to give religious angle to any small dispute and then such crimes take place. India needs to introspect and do better. No two ways about this.

I am very hopeful for good future though. Eventually tolerance will rise and people will take religion less seriously.
 
They closed the pathway and Hindutva brigade came to life against those people but the Muslim brother and sister getting beaten meant nothing and the same Hindutva brigade went missing.
 
Sorry bro, mistaken you for Itachi because of same DP color. These stats are meant for him as he asked earlier.
Josh said:
For me? Why?

Not sure how these figures are calculated but targetting someone based on one's religion is a condemnable thing and India has had quite a few of these cases lately. With social media and uneducated masses, it's easy to give religious angle to any small dispute and then such crimes take place. India needs to introspect and do better. No two ways about this.

I am very hopeful for good future though. Eventually tolerance will rise and people will take religion less seriously.
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Insight: In Modi's Delhi, Indian Muslims segregate to seek security​

In February 2020, Nasreen and her husband Tofik were living in Shiv Vihar, an upcoming neighbourhood in northeast New Delhi. But that month, riots erupted targeting Muslims like them and Tofik was pushed by a mob from the second floor of the building where they lived, according to a police report he filed days later from hospital.

He survived, but has a permanent limp and was only able to return to work selling clothes on the street after spending nearly 3 years recuperatiom

Soon after the riots the couple moved to Loni, a more remote area with poorer infrastructure and job prospects - but with a sizable Muslim population.

"I will not go back to that area. I feel safer among Muslims," Tofik, who like his wife goes by one name, told Reuters.
Reuters interviewed about two dozen people, who described how Muslims in the Indian capital have been congregating in enclaves away from the nation's Hindu majority, seeking safety in numbers following the deadly 2020 riot and an increase in anti-Muslim hate speech. Details about this phenomenon, which has led a major Muslim neighbourhood in Delhi to effectively run out of space, have not previously been reported.

 

Owaisi lashes out at ultimatum to Muslims to leave Chamoli by December 31​


AIMIM President and Member of Parliament from Hyderabad, Asaduddin Owaisi has criticised the Uniform Civil Code (UCC) that the Uttarakhand government is set to implement. He claimed that Muslims in India have been turned into "untouchables."

Expressing concern for Muslims, the AIMIM President took to X and wrote, "Muslims have been made untouchable in India. 15 Muslim families are being boycotted in Chamoli, Uttarakhand. Traders of Chamoli have threatened that Muslims will have to leave Chamoli by 31 December. If house owners give houses to Muslims, they will have to pay a fine of Rs 10,000."

"Don't the Muslims of Chamoli have the right to live with equality and respect?" he further noted.

Earlier on October 19, former Uttarakhand Chief Minister and Congress leader Harish Rawat had also criticised Uttarakhand Chief Minister Pushkar Singh Dhami and the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP).

He said that there is nothing substantial in the UCC and that it is merely a promotional step. Speaking exclusively to ANI, Harish Rawat said, "There is nothing in the UCC; it is only a promotional sequence. It has enhanced Uttarakhand CM Dhami's stature in national politics. The BJP also had to convey this to their voters. It has been ten years since they have been in power, so why did we not implement the UCC? Pushkar Singh Dhami came forward and made this announcement so that the BJP can claim they are implementing the UCC."

He added, "The UCC is nothing; it is only a step taken for political propaganda. They can implement it whenever they want. The Uttarakhand government has nothing solid to tell people about what they have done in the state. The Uttarakhand government set a deadline for filling potholes, which they could not complete. Atrocities against women are constantly rising. There is an imbalance in the state. When people consider what has been done by the BJP government for their welfare, voters won't give them a chance."

Meanwhile, on Friday UCC Rules and Implementation Committee chairman, the retired IAS officer Shatrughan Singh submitted the final report to chief minister Dhami at the state secretariat.

The Uttarakhand UCC bill addresses laws relating to marriage, divorce, succession, live-in relationships, and related matters. Among its many proposals, the Uniform Civil Code Bill mandates the registration of live-in relationships under the law. The act also imposes a complete ban on child marriage and introduces a uniform process for divorce. The Code provides equal rights to women of all religions concerning their ancestral property. According to the UCC Bill, the marriage age will be 18 for women and 21 for men in all communities.

Marriage registration will be mandatory across all religions, and marriages without registration will be deemed invalid. No divorce petition will be allowed to be filed after one year of marriage.

 
The Bald Eagle said:

Insight: In Modi's Delhi, Indian Muslims segregate to seek security​

In February 2020, Nasreen and her husband Tofik were living in Shiv Vihar, an upcoming neighbourhood in northeast New Delhi. But that month, riots erupted targeting Muslims like them and Tofik was pushed by a mob from the second floor of the building where they lived, according to a police report he filed days later from hospital.

He survived, but has a permanent limp and was only able to return to work selling clothes on the street after spending nearly 3 years recuperatiom

Soon after the riots the couple moved to Loni, a more remote area with poorer infrastructure and job prospects - but with a sizable Muslim population.

"I will not go back to that area. I feel safer among Muslims," Tofik, who like his wife goes by one name, told Reuters.
Reuters interviewed about two dozen people, who described how Muslims in the Indian capital have been congregating in enclaves away from the nation's Hindu majority, seeking safety in numbers following the deadly 2020 riot and an increase in anti-Muslim hate speech. Details about this phenomenon, which has led a major Muslim neighbourhood in Delhi to effectively run out of space, have not previously been reported.

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Another day, another anti-Muslim riot. It seems to be the only thing which unites Hindus of India, the main problem would be that there is such a large Muslim population which must make ethnic cleansing more problematic in the short term.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Another day, another anti-Muslim riot. It seems to be the only thing which unites Hindus of India, the main problem would be that there is such a large Muslim population which must make ethnic cleansing more problematic in the short term.
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A 4 year old riot, suddenly Reuters needs to talk about it.

No one is doing ethnic cleansing, but no one is going to tolerate attempts by politically backed Muslims to dominate.
 

RSS endorses Yogi Adityanath's 'batengey toh katengey' remark, bats for Hindu unity​


RSS general secretary Dattatreya Hosabale virtually endorsed Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath's "batengey toh katengey (divided we fall)" remark emphasising the need for Hindu unity against forces that seek to divide in the name of religion, caste and ideology.

"If we discriminate/divide on the basis of language, state, upper and backward castes, then we will be decimated (Hum jaati, bhasha, prant agla-pitchda bhed se hum karengey toh hum katengey)," Hosabale said on the second and concluding day of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh's national meet in Mathura on Saturday.

The 'batengey toh katengey' slogan was given by Yogi Adityanath at an event in Agra in August this year. "Nothing can be above the nation. And the nation will be empowered only when we are united. Batenge to katenge. You are seeing what is happening in Bangladesh. Those mistakes should not be repeated here," he said.

The remark was subsequently used by Prime Minister Narendra Modi during his rally in Thane, Maharashtra on October 5.

Hosabale stressed that while the statement itself is not the focus, the spirit behind it is significant.

"The issue is of Hindu unity. In fact, we often say that those who forget the Hindu thought invite disaster, lose their family, land and places of worship. The spirit is the same. The issue is unity in society. (Samaj ekatmata se nahi rahega toh .. itihaas kehta hai.. hum to kehte hain jab jab Hindu bhaav ko bhoole aayi vipada mahaan bhai tootey dharti khoi mitey dharma sansthan .. yeh hamara geet hai ... toh usko aajkal ki bhasha main aisa aapne jo kaha ho sakta hai. Mudda kya hain. Samaj ki ekta)," the RSS leader said.

Asserting that unity is essential for any nation, he said mere speeches are insufficient and real efforts are required to foster it.

"We have to inculcate it in our behaviour. The good thing is that many religious and other organisations are now understanding this and supporting it. Hindu unity is the RSS' pledge," he said, adding Sangh reflects the voice of the society.

"Hindu unity is for everyone's good, for global happiness and peace. Hindu unity is important to ensure our protection and for world harmony. That is why we back Hindu unity and there are no two views on this," he said.

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RSS endorses Yogi Adityanath's 'batengey toh katengey' remark, bats for Hindu unity

The 'batengey toh katengey' slogan was given by Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath at an event in Agra in August this year.
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FearlessRoar said:

RSS endorses Yogi Adityanath's 'batengey toh katengey' remark, bats for Hindu unity​


RSS general secretary Dattatreya Hosabale virtually endorsed Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath's "batengey toh katengey (divided we fall)" remark emphasising the need for Hindu unity against forces that seek to divide in the name of religion, caste and ideology.

"If we discriminate/divide on the basis of language, state, upper and backward castes, then we will be decimated (Hum jaati, bhasha, prant agla-pitchda bhed se hum karengey toh hum katengey)," Hosabale said on the second and concluding day of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh's national meet in Mathura on Saturday.

The 'batengey toh katengey' slogan was given by Yogi Adityanath at an event in Agra in August this year. "Nothing can be above the nation. And the nation will be empowered only when we are united. Batenge to katenge. You are seeing what is happening in Bangladesh. Those mistakes should not be repeated here," he said.

The remark was subsequently used by Prime Minister Narendra Modi during his rally in Thane, Maharashtra on October 5.

Hosabale stressed that while the statement itself is not the focus, the spirit behind it is significant.

"The issue is of Hindu unity. In fact, we often say that those who forget the Hindu thought invite disaster, lose their family, land and places of worship. The spirit is the same. The issue is unity in society. (Samaj ekatmata se nahi rahega toh .. itihaas kehta hai.. hum to kehte hain jab jab Hindu bhaav ko bhoole aayi vipada mahaan bhai tootey dharti khoi mitey dharma sansthan .. yeh hamara geet hai ... toh usko aajkal ki bhasha main aisa aapne jo kaha ho sakta hai. Mudda kya hain. Samaj ki ekta)," the RSS leader said.

Asserting that unity is essential for any nation, he said mere speeches are insufficient and real efforts are required to foster it.

"We have to inculcate it in our behaviour. The good thing is that many religious and other organisations are now understanding this and supporting it. Hindu unity is the RSS' pledge," he said, adding Sangh reflects the voice of the society.

"Hindu unity is for everyone's good, for global happiness and peace. Hindu unity is important to ensure our protection and for world harmony. That is why we back Hindu unity and there are no two views on this," he said.

www.indiatoday.in

RSS endorses Yogi Adityanath's 'batengey toh katengey' remark, bats for Hindu unity

The 'batengey toh katengey' slogan was given by Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath at an event in Agra in August this year.
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At least he's saying it openly. For India, the unity which matters must be built around Hindu unity. Unity on the basis on nationalism regardless of religion does not count.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
At least he's saying it openly. For India, the unity which matters must be built around Hindu unity. Unity on the basis on nationalism regardless of religion does not count.
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So basically he is saying the same thing Pakistan did in 1947 i.e uniting and forming country based on religion.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Pakistan and Islam seems to be the role model I agree.
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This statement of your can be true or false but Pakistani's have a problem with Indian politicians asking for unity based on religion when their own country is formed based on that is ironical and why no one takes you guys seriously.
 
Rajdeep said:
This statement of your can be true or false but Pakistani's have a problem with Indian politicians asking for unity based on religion when their own country is formed based on that is ironical and why no one takes you guys seriously.
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So do you second Jinnah model?
 
Rajdeep said:
This statement of your can be true or false but Pakistani's have a problem with Indian politicians asking for unity based on religion when their own country is formed based on that is ironical and why no one takes you guys seriously.
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Well BJP and their acolytes clearly take Pakistan seriously, every ideological move seems to be based around the Pakistan model, and here you are referencing it again to underscore that point.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Well BJP and their acolytes clearly take Pakistan seriously, every ideological move seems to be based around the Pakistan model, and here you are referencing it again to underscore that point.
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If that what makes you sleep at night peacefully so be it :rabada2

The fact is, Yogi Adityanath has all the right to call for unity among Hindus. Asking people to get united is no crime, at least not in India. Don't you guys ask for muslim Ummah or something?

Tum karo to Ummar aur hum kare to 😗 ?


:uak
 
Rajdeep said:
If that what makes you sleep at night peacefully so be it :rabada2

The fact is, Yogi Adityanath has all the right to call for unity among Hindus. Asking people to get united is no crime, at least not in India. Don't you guys ask for muslim Ummah or something?

Tum karo to Ummar aur hum kare to 😗 ?


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Lol. It's like you are going out of your way to prove my points.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Another day, another anti-Muslim riot. It seems to be the only thing which unites Hindus of India, the main problem would be that there is such a large Muslim population which must make ethnic cleansing more problematic in the short term.
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As expected, no BJP poster condemned it. They expect others to condemn things but they themselves don't condemn.
 
rpant_gabba said:
Why not? What is that you find so wrong with the Jinnah model?

I for one am a big fan of the great service provided Jinnah to Hindus and India.
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Thanks for acknowledging Jinnah, Now why don't you accept Pakistan the same way and gave IOK to Pakistan as the people there wanted Islamic republic too. Correct me if I am wrong. Even recent result from Kashmir Valley before you
 
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The Bald Eagle said:
Thanks for acknowledging Jinnah, Now why don't you accept Pakistan the same way and gave IOK to Pakistan as the people there wanted Islamic republic too. Correct me if I am wrong. Even recent result from Kashmir Valley before you
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why? India should follow the Jinnah model and continue fight for separation of muslims from India
 
rpant_gabba said:
Why? Islam and muslims are native to subcontinent. they were given a land. they can move
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Lol do you think Pakistan alone can take up people more than its current population. Never mind but being an atheist doesn't this inconsistent with your own ideology. I guess a secular country need not to be religiously biased
 
Hitman said:
Watch this.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1843829329488425404
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It seems both sides are alleging the other other started it and they are lying and that they themselves are aggrieved.

And the funny or sad thing is they all look the same, talk the same, behave the same, don't live too far from each other and apart from their beliefs share a lot of cultural commonalities. I hope better sense prevails and they all learn to live peacefully with each other. Found it funny because a cat fight was about to break out between desi women and aunties. A burqa clad ninja middle aged muslim aunty is not to be trifled with. lol

p.s I do believe at the very least, the Azaans on loudspeaker are not a good idea anymore. Everybody has mobile phones and apps and they should be utilized for announcing prayer time rather than spreading noise pollution.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Thanks for acknowledging Jinnah, Now why don't you accept Pakistan the same way and gave IOK to Pakistan as the people there wanted Islamic republic too. Correct me if I am wrong. Even recent result from Kashmir Valley before you
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Accept Pakistan? Who hasn't accepted? Is this a new drama now?

Why should J and K with 40 per cent non muslim population go to Pakistan?

FYI Kashmir was ruled by a King and the India Independence Act that created India and Pakistan gave right to the Maharaja and every other princely state to merge with either country. Only condition was that they should share a boundary with that country.

They also had the option to remain independent.

So what's this give Kashmir to Pakistan?

You got your land in 1947. But it seems you still need to poke your nose in India.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Lol do you think Pakistan alone can take up people more than its current population. Never mind but being an atheist doesn't this inconsistent with your own ideology. I guess a secular country need not to be religiously biased
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Correct me if i am Muslim population was 35 per cent in 1946. Pakistan got nearly the same amount of territory.

Majority of Hindus left Pakistan and were accomodated in India.

One third of Muslims didn't leave for Pakistan.

Now they should be given more land?
 
cricketjoshila said:
Correct me if i am Muslim population was 35 per cent in 1946. Pakistan got nearly the same amount of territory.

Majority of Hindus left Pakistan and were accomodated in India.

One third of Muslims didn't leave for Pakistan.

Now they should be given more land?
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Remind me again of some of the great hindu nationalist freedom fighters who helped get india independence
I cant think of any
 
cricketjoshila said:
Why should J and K with 40 per cent non muslim population go to Pakistan?

FYI Kashmir was ruled by a King and the India Independence Act that created India and Pakistan gave right to the Maharaja and every other princely state to merge with either country. Only condition was that they should share a boundary with that country.

They also had the option to remain independent.
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Keep the Hindu majority Jammu, but Kashmir is a overwhelming Muslim majority area whose people always wanted to be part of Pakistan. Secondly, the Indian independence was mocked by Patel himself why the prince of Junagadh decision was reversed by brute force. Like always you guys like to quote law when it fits your purpose not otherwise.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Correct me if i am Muslim population was 35 per cent in 1946. Pakistan got nearly the same amount of territory.

Majority of Hindus left Pakistan and were accomodated in India.

One third of Muslims didn't leave for Pakistan.

Now they should be given more land?
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Well according to the India Muslims who stayed there, they did so with choice. Now if India government not constitution can't guarantee them the same liberties as pledged at time of independence and is bent to unite against them despite being part of a same country then why should they go to Pakistan ie the country they ignored at first instance. So if your government wants to kick them out then they should stick to the condition as I mentioned above.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Well according to the India Muslims who stayed there, they did so with choice. Now if India government not constitution can't guarantee them the same liberties as pledged at time of independence and is bent to unite against them despite being part of a same country then why should they go to Pakistan ie the country they ignored at first instance. So if your government wants to kick them out then they should stick to the condition as I mentioned above.
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No one asked them to stay. No one pledged them anything at the time of partition.

Muslims were given land in 1947. If they didn't go to their muslim nation its their fault. Same applies to Hindus who stayed back in Pakistan.


Now they will not get the opportunity to have another partition.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Keep the Hindu majority Jammu, but Kashmir is a overwhelming Muslim majority area whose people always wanted to be part of Pakistan. Secondly, the Indian independence was mocked by Patel himself why the prince of Junagadh decision was reversed by brute force. Like always you guys like to quote law when it fits your purpose not otherwise.
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Junagadh shares which boundary with Pakistan?

When Junagadh signed agreed to merge in Pakistan, all that India did was to close its borders with Junagadh.

Did Pakistan start supplies to Junagadh? No.

Ultimately the people of Junagadh, started protests because of the lack of supplies. Nawab abdicated and flew to Pakistan. He handed over the throne to his Diwan.

The Diwan then agreed to merge with India as Pakistan despite repeated requests couldn't supply Junagadh anything.

Law is law. Read it and understand it. Then read the context.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Junagadh shares which boundary with Pakistan?

When Junagadh signed agreed to merge in Pakistan, all that India did was to close its borders with Junagadh.

Did Pakistan start supplies to Junagadh? No.

Ultimately the people of Junagadh, started protests because of the lack of supplies. Nawab abdicated and flew to Pakistan. He handed over the throne to his Diwan.

The Diwan then agreed to merge with India as Pakistan despite repeated requests couldn't supply Junagadh anything.

Law is law. Read it and understand it. Then read the context.
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As you know Junagadh is at Indian borders next to Arabian sea so there was no bar on it on joining Pakistan and about the protest things you mentioned how can you ignore protests against Indian government to this day. And for your information Kashmiri Muslims had been defying Fogra raj since 1930. Don't try to justify Dogra's duplicity if that had been the genuine case, Indian government would never have run away from plebiscite under one or another context
 
cricketjoshila said:
No one asked them to stay. No one pledged them anything at the time of partition.

Muslims were given land in 1947. If they didn't go to their muslim nation its their fault. Same applies to Hindus who stayed back in Pakistan.


Now they will not get the opportunity to have another partition.
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Why not Indians can divide and give land to indian Muslims again. Infact India sowed the seed of division of Pakistan in 1971
 
The Bald Eagle said:
As you know Junagadh is at Indian borders next to Arabian sea so there was no bar on it on joining Pakistan and about the protest things you mentioned how can you ignore protests against Indian government to this day. And for your information Kashmiri Muslims had been defying Fogra raj since 1930. Don't try to justify Dogra's duplicity if that had been the genuine case, Indian government would never have run away from plebiscite under one or another context
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Does Junagadh share a border with Pakistan? If yes which one?

Protests made the Nawab abdicate the throne in favour of the diwan. He ran away. Pakistan failed to give supplies to Junagadh.

Finally the Diwan who was made the head of the government aceded to India.

Did Maharaja of Kashmir run away?NO.

Why did Pakistanis invade Kashmir?

Did India fail to provide Kashmir with supplies and security after its accession to India?

The Maharaja was the recognised ruler of Kashmir. That's the bottom line. He didn't run away.

Plebiscite? Please vacate PoK. That's the first condition of plebiscite.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Why not Indians can divide and give land to indian Muslims again. Infact India sowed the seed of division of Pakistan in 1971
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They got land once in proportion to their population.

They cannot keep taking land while the others communities keep losing.

Yes, India imprisoned Sheikh Mujib and refused to make him PM despite winning the elections.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Does Junagadh share a border with Pakistan? If yes which one?

Protests made the Nawab abdicate the throne in favour of the diwan. He ran away. Pakistan failed to give supplies to Junagadh.

Finally the Diwan who was made the head of the government aceded to India.

Did Maharaja of Kashmir run away?NO.

Why did Pakistanis invade Kashmir?

Did India fail to provide Kashmir with supplies and security after its accession to India?

The Maharaja was the recognised ruler of Kashmir. That's the bottom line. He didn't run away.

Plebiscite? Please vacate PoK. That's the first condition of plebiscite.
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Yep he ran away and sought help of India because he knew Mujahedeens were going to take over it and what about nawab of Hyderabad and please enlighten me was it officially chalked out that rulers must align to countries with whom they share border?

If India had no problem with plebiscite then why did they make Simla Agreement?
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Yep he ran away and sought help of India because he knew Mujahedeens were going to take over it and what about nawab of Hyderabad and please enlighten me was it officially chalked out that rulers must align to countries with whom they share border?

If India had no problem with plebiscite then why did they make Simla Agreement?
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He didn't run away. He was in Srinagar all the time. He aceded to India like any other princely state.

Nizam? What about him? He was land locked on all sides by India. So no question of joining Pakistan.

Which part of Simla agreement are you talking about?
 
cricketjoshila said:
He didn't run away. He was in Srinagar all the time. He aceded to India like any other princely state.

Nizam? What about him? He was land locked on all sides by India. So no question of joining Pakistan.

Which part of Simla agreement are you talking about?
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The part suggesting that Kashmir would just be a bilateral issue. And please add to my information, was there any specific stipulation regarding land contiguousness in Indian independence act as what we read in most books seems to be general view and suggestion.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
The part suggesting that Kashmir would just be a bilateral issue. And please add to my information, was there any specific stipulation regarding land contiguousness in Indian independence act as what we read in most books seems to be general view and suggestion.
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Where did this general view come from?
 
cricketjoshila said:
His food, he can decide who he gives it to. I am not aware of any law that says giving charity to Muslims is compulsory.
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I agree. A true Hindu should always show hatred for Muslims, that was foretold in the Quran. This guy is only doing what is pre-destined.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
It appears that your claim was false otherwise you would have tendered some notes or official document.
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I would. If the transfer of power agreement was a Fully public document.

It has been stated again and again by different historians that sharing geographical boundaries was essential for a princely state to join.

This was also the reason why pakistan was carved the way it was. When muslim league had actually asked for areas in Kerala, UP, Bihar to be included.

You need to read up a few books.
 

And then scholars here would argue that there is no anti Muslim bias in India​

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Deepika, Ranveer face backlash for naming daughter 'Dua'​

Bollywood couple Deepika Padukone and Ranveer Singh have faced a storm of criticism after naming their newborn daughter “Dua,” an Arabic word meaning “prayer.”

The couple introduced their daughter on Diwali, one of Hinduism’s most auspicious festivals, posting a photo of her feet with the caption, “‘Dua’: meaning a prayer. Because she is the answer to our prayers.”

Despite this, the couple’s choice of an Arabic name has drawn scrutiny in an increasingly polarised India, where incidents of religious intolerance have risen in recent years.

The debate highlights a broader pattern of rising anti-Muslim sentiment and religious polarisation in India.

Amnesty International reports have highlighted discrimination against Muslims in India, with incidents involving the demolition of homes and businesses of minority groups, fuelling concerns over the Modi administration’s handling of religious minorities.

Supporters of Padukone and Singh called the backlash unfounded, with many arguing that parents should be free to choose names regardless of their cultural origin.

Source: The Express Tribune
 
"Our Ancestors Did Jihad Against British": Asaduddin Owaisi Targets BJP

AIMIM chief Asaduddin Owaisi has targeted Maharashtra Deputy Chief Minister Devendra Fadnavis over his "vote jihad" remarks, claiming the BJP leader's (ideological) ancestors wrote "love letters" to the British instead of fighting against them.

During a public meeting here on Sunday, Mr Owaisi also alleged that Prime Minister Narendra Modi's "Ek Hai to Safe Hai" slogan goes against the diversity ethos.

Mr Fadnavis on Saturday claimed "vote jihad" had begun in poll-bound Maharashtra, which should be countered by "Dharma yuddha" of vote. He had mentioned the BJP's narrow loss in Dhule Lok Sabha constituency.

Countering him, Mr Owaisi said, "Our ancestors did jihad against the British and Fadnavis is now teaching us about jihad. (PM) Narendra Modi, (Union minister) Amit Shah, and Devendra Fadnavis together cannot defeat me in a debate."

Mr Owaisi claimed the "dharmayuddha-jihad" remarks amounted to poll code violation.

"From where did 'vote jihad and dharmayuddha' come in democracy? You purchased MLAs; should we call you a thief?" the Hyderabad MP questioned.

While Mr Fadnavis talks about (vote) jihad, his hero was writing "love letters" to the British, whereas "our freedom fighters did not negotiate with the foreign rulers," he said.

"We gave the method of fighting against the British. He (Fadnavis) said 'vote jihad' after they (BJP) didn't get votes in Malegaon (during Lok Sabha election). When they fail to get votes, they call it jihad. They lost in Ayodhya. How did that happen"? Mr Owaisi questioned.

"Our ancestors did jihad against Britishers, not yours. Fadnavis, whose ancestors were writing love letters to the British, will teach us jihad?" he added in a veiled attack on Hindutva ideologues revered by the BJP.

PM Modi says 'Ek Hai to Safe Hai' because they (BJP) want to end the diversity of this country, the AIMIM leader said, adding the Maratha community was betrayed by rulers who failed to give them reservation.

Mr Owaisi claimed many industrial projects went to Gujarat but Mr Fadnavis showed no courage to stop them. "Was he afraid of Narendra Modi?" he asked.

Referring to a controversy over Hindutva seer Ramgiri Maharaj's statements, Mr Owaisi said remarks against the Prophet won't be tolerated.

He appealed to people to come out to vote on November 20. "Our victory in Aurangabad will be saluted by the people of India," he added.

Mr Owaisi addressed a public meeting in Jinsi area of Chhatrapati Sambhajinagar in support of AIMIM candidates Imtiaz Jaleel (Aurangabad East) and Naser Siddiqui (Aurangabad Central) for the November 20 assembly elections.

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"Our Ancestors Did Jihad Against British": Asaduddin Owaisi Targets BJP

AIMIM chief Asaduddin Owaisi has targeted Maharashtra Deputy Chief Minister Devendra Fadnavis over his "vote jihad" remarks, claiming the BJP leader's (ideological) ancestors wrote "love letters" to the British instead of fighting against them.
www.ndtv.com www.ndtv.com
 
The Bald Eagle said:

And then scholars here would argue that there is no anti Muslim bias in India​

===

Deepika, Ranveer face backlash for naming daughter 'Dua'​

Bollywood couple Deepika Padukone and Ranveer Singh have faced a storm of criticism after naming their newborn daughter “Dua,” an Arabic word meaning “prayer.”

The couple introduced their daughter on Diwali, one of Hinduism’s most auspicious festivals, posting a photo of her feet with the caption, “‘Dua’: meaning a prayer. Because she is the answer to our prayers.”

Despite this, the couple’s choice of an Arabic name has drawn scrutiny in an increasingly polarised India, where incidents of religious intolerance have risen in recent years.

The debate highlights a broader pattern of rising anti-Muslim sentiment and religious polarisation in India.

Amnesty International reports have highlighted discrimination against Muslims in India, with incidents involving the demolition of homes and businesses of minority groups, fuelling concerns over the Modi administration’s handling of religious minorities.

Supporters of Padukone and Singh called the backlash unfounded, with many arguing that parents should be free to choose names regardless of their cultural origin.

Source: The Express Tribune
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All to Hindu names in the world and they had to pick a Muslim word.

The leftist celebrity comrades of Bharat are truly ridiculous.

Tell me about Muslim celebrities whose kids names are from Hinduism.
 
Hitman said:
Goodness! You find this an issue?
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Absolutely.

Given the times we live in, given Deepika Padukone’s anti national history, given Bollywood’s anti national history, i am surprised they dared inciting the Hindu sentiments like that.

Not too long ago, Saif Ali Khan named his son Taimur.

Certain names should be completely banned and parents must face punishment for naming their kids that way. You have people in this country names Akbar, Taimur etc. how many European and American parents name their children Adolf?
 
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